I remain single in my mid-30s (more on that below), and I have not fathered any children (as far as I know). Many American providers seem surprised if and when I tell them this.
During my two recent mongering trips to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, a larger proportion of hookers (or “chicas,” in local usage) seemed more surprised to learn the above. I believe that Latin America's more family-centric culture may explain the greater frequency and strength of these chicas' reactions, but I suspect that the root cause of their reactions may have been the same as or related to that of their American counterparts.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers? I have definitely gotten the impression that most mongers are married and/or have children, and that single guys with no children are in the minority, but I did not think that my status would be rare enough among mongers to be surprising.
Could the reactions of these American and Latina hookers have instead been an attempt to compliment me, so as to make the sessions more enjoyable for me by flattering me? In other words, were they trying to imply rhetorically, “you are such a desirable man, why hasn't some woman taken you off the market yet?”
I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy.
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers? There must be other mongers out there who have reached the same or similar conclusions as me and thus decided to stay single.
Do you have anything to add to my observations?
I am twenty something years older than you, but "similarly situated"
I think "part" of it is genuine surprise, because as you say, most "hobbyists" are married and cheating. I think part of it is just meant as flattery, as in "How did a catch like you get away?"
Either way I get the same reaction all the time and my usual answer is "porque te he estado esperando mi amor"
Yes, it is a little corny, but the chicas seem to like it. They don't believe, but they like it. jaja
...do I have your permission to use it with the local chicas on my upcoming mongering trip to Colombia? Will the chicas there remember your use of that line on them?
For the gringos on the board that do not speak Spanish, he tells the girls that he is still single "because I was waiting for you, my love."
I would be quite surprised.Lets see a pic?
that my standards of whom I would fuck would be low. However, I have noticed that
the majority of young ladies fall into the 0 to 5 range. If I was 30, I would not chase them
let alone consider getting married to one. Young men these days have their work cut out
trying to find that jem in a herd. And NO....I don't need any lessons on woman's lib bull-shit or that being a size 15 is ok.
The main factors that have turned me off from dating civilian women in my age bracket are their personalities and behaviors, not their sizes or appearances. I actually prefer voluptuous women, so a size 15 would not necessarily be a problem for me, if she carries it well.
With that said, I do value and appreciate the fact that the providers that I see tend to be more attractive than the general civilian population and (usually and more importantly) easier to deal with. I'd rather pay up front for a few great hours with a hot provider than shell out a somewhat smaller amount of money on dating expenses with a less attractive woman with an attitude who might or might not put out at some point and might not be that good in the sack even if and when she does put out.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers?
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers?
Given that you have already learned the vast majority of mongers are NOT single.... why are you surprised that providers are surprised? LOL. 
Maybe he was just bored today?
I mean it was better than a dick size thread, right? LOL
cynical, Jack. I thought you might include that perhaps he's not such a "find" and he's just making it sound like he is. Of course I'd never insinuate such a thing? Is GaGa asleep? lol
I say HAVE FUN STAY SINGLE!!!
I think there surprise is that you made it through their verification.
got to know you better they would not be surprised. Many young professionals make a good impression on first blush and SEEM like prime marriage material, but when a girl gets to know them better by looking under the hood and kicking the tires a little, he turns out to be a clunker. Just another possibility for consideration.
During my two recent mongering trips to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, a larger proportion of hookers (or “chicas,” in local usage) seemed more surprised to learn the above. I believe that Latin America's more family-centric culture may explain the greater frequency and strength of these chicas' reactions, but I suspect that the root cause of their reactions may have been the same as or related to that of their American counterparts.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers? I have definitely gotten the impression that most mongers are married and/or have children, and that single guys with no children are in the minority, but I did not think that my status would be rare enough among mongers to be surprising.
Could the reactions of these American and Latina hookers have instead been an attempt to compliment me, so as to make the sessions more enjoyable for me by flattering me? In other words, were they trying to imply rhetorically, “you are such a desirable man, why hasn't some woman taken you off the market yet?”
I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy.
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers? There must be other mongers out there who have reached the same or similar conclusions as me and thus decided to stay single.
During my two recent mongering trips to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, a larger proportion of hookers (or “chicas,” in local usage) seemed more surprised to learn the above. I believe that Latin America's more family-centric culture may explain the greater frequency and strength of these chicas' reactions, but I suspect that the root cause of their reactions may have been the same as or related to that of their American counterparts.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers? I have definitely gotten the impression that most mongers are married and/or have children, and that single guys with no children are in the minority, but I did not think that my status would be rare enough among mongers to be surprising.
Could the reactions of these American and Latina hookers have instead been an attempt to compliment me, so as to make the sessions more enjoyable for me by flattering me? In other words, were they trying to imply rhetorically, “you are such a desirable man, why hasn't some woman taken you off the market yet?”
I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy.
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers? There must be other mongers out there who have reached the same or similar conclusions as me and thus decided to stay single.
During my two recent mongering trips to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, a larger proportion of hookers (or “chicas,” in local usage) seemed more surprised to learn the above. I believe that Latin America's more family-centric culture may explain the greater frequency and strength of these chicas' reactions, but I suspect that the root cause of their reactions may have been the same as or related to that of their American counterparts.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers? I have definitely gotten the impression that most mongers are married and/or have children, and that single guys with no children are in the minority, but I did not think that my status would be rare enough among mongers to be surprising.
Could the reactions of these American and Latina hookers have instead been an attempt to compliment me, so as to make the sessions more enjoyable for me by flattering me? In other words, were they trying to imply rhetorically, “you are such a desirable man, why hasn't some woman taken you off the market yet?”
I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy.
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers? There must be other mongers out there who have reached the same or similar conclusions as me and thus decided to stay single.
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Now I am getting shortened, choppy sentences with poor punctuation in stereo! LOL
Good grief...
if you really have something to say then just come out and fucking say it OK?
altho your hiding behind an alias to call someone out is not the point of my post.
it's obvious you haven't followed fancy8888, who is blunt and to the point albeit using english as a second language.
and it's also obvious you don't get the nuanced satire of fancy's sister, who is poking gentle fun at fancy8888
Yes. Being single and childless leaves me a lot of disposable income to spend on this hobby and several other pursuits. Another advantage is that I can do what I want when I want to do it, without having to consult with a significant other or make arrangements for the kids. I also don't have to make up cover stories for what I am doing when I go out for sessions.
I often reflect upon those life choices as I am headed to the airport to head out for a weekend fuckfest in a tropical paradise that a married guy would have to plan six months in advance, while I don't even think about until noon, but by 4 PM I am on the plane drinking champagne on my way to paradise.
My "cover story" is the same as yours;
Pura vida perras, I am off to go fuck my brains out for the weekend. lmao
...who don't have the luxury of being able to do whatever they want, as GaG and I do, and instead have to make such elaborate plans and cover stories to hide the hobby from their wives
I'm not so sure that is always the case. Two incomes can build up equity in, say, a home, more quickly that one, especially if both individuals have good to high paying jobs. Also one can buffer for the other one during layoffs etc. Of course the inevitable financial divorce rape of the guy throws you into intense poverty -- but at least on paper being married can be a financial benefit.
...hookers, cigars, opera and Broadway tickets, fine Italian restaurants, vacations, more hookers, vacations in Latin America where I fuck even more hookers, etc. Imagine trying to do that when you are married. My basic living expenses are fairly modest, since I don't want or need a lot of other stuff that many wives would want to spend money on, like a bigger apartment, fancy furniture and housewares, etc.
and then they turn around and bitch about how much it costs to put their four kids through college.
I could fuck a different $500 hooker every single day for the next ten years for what it costs to put four kids through college at an even a halfway decent school.
I put two kids through college and have started college funds for two others. And I still have plenty for whoring around. You chumps just don't make enough munny! LMAO! Stop whining.
most of us are bragging about how happy our lives are.
and as little as you have been whoring of late, even Chicken Little could afford your whoring budget.
You really must be reading too many posts written by the likes of BBBBB and Fancy. I've noticed you don't seem to understand plain English when it's written, I can only chalk it up to brain damage caused by reading their posts, because us single guys with no kids are hardly whining or making excuses. Get help Jake, and get it NOW!!!
Keep up, GaGa. It's not all about you. You just think it is. LMAO!
You made your post directly under mine, so either you don't yet know how to reply to a post (after at least 20,000 posts here) or you're just a dumb-fuck. Which is it?
would be you. Since when, even when I'm replying to you, is everything in my post directed at you or about you? You really are determined to be dense, aren't you
Next winter it's Pura Vida again. Maybe Medellin and Panama first.
fuck up their marriage, so they get divorced, then they fuck that up by getting married again.
But Jake always claims to be both smart and correct, even like above where it's plain to anyone that he is clearly in the wrong, but does that stop him??? No wonder he was dumb enough to try marriage twice. Even a drunk like me figured out it wasn't for me after a very brief attempt at being married.
Why am I not surprised. And I don't think I'm alone. I have no doubt your twists and turns above have amused....Well, actually, I'll be they've amused no one. Lots of SMH going on.
Single mongers are not quite unicorns, but still very much the minority from what I can tell. Looks or money may factor into the reactions, but also demeanor. I'm by no means implying that escorts are all mentalists, but we tend to be pretty good at calling it when it comes to marital status and kids. It's hard to explain, but there can be nuances in presence and even sexual behaviors. And those newly divorced can have a different feel: free, but still kinda breaking in their new lives. If I were with a decent looking hobbyist who seemed conspicuously grateful for their O's, I may well suspect there's some sort of marital sex drought at home.
Could you elaborate on how money and a monger's demeanor might factor into a provider's assessment of a monger's marital and parental status? What sort of nuances in presence and sexual behaviors would you associate with single, married, or divorced mongers, respectively?
In a strange twist of fate, my wife would be surprised that I act single.
By the same token, my mongering has taught me that I am happier as a single monger than I would be as a husband or a boyfriend (with or without mongering).
and yourself, like you are some great catch but no one can keep up to catch you. Very Laughable
During my two recent mongering trips to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, a larger proportion of hookers (or “chicas,” in local usage) seemed more surprised to learn the above. I believe that Latin America's more family-centric culture may explain the greater frequency and strength of these chicas' reactions, but I suspect that the root cause of their reactions may have been the same as or related to that of their American counterparts.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers? I have definitely gotten the impression that most mongers are married and/or have children, and that single guys with no children are in the minority, but I did not think that my status would be rare enough among mongers to be surprising.
Could the reactions of these American and Latina hookers have instead been an attempt to compliment me, so as to make the sessions more enjoyable for me by flattering me? In other words, were they trying to imply rhetorically, “you are such a desirable man, why hasn't some woman taken you off the market yet?”
I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy.
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers? There must be other mongers out there who have reached the same or similar conclusions as me and thus decided to stay single.
and I have seldom dated. It isn't really the way I wanted my life to be, but that is the way it turned out
Joie de Vivre about you ...
...with as much Joie as possible, you may be certain of that.
I fell prey to marriage once, I don't have children because I'm too damn selfish, probably a major reason why I'm dovorced as well.
But these are choices, I could have tried to make it work with my ex a second time, we gave it a chance, but to no avail. There are 7 billion people on Earth, our civilization, if you want to call it that, doesn't need me or you to procreate.
We only get one go around, might as well be true to ourselves and happy.
Add me to the single w/no kids list too. I also had a few providers tell me that they were surprised that I was still single and without kids and I've been in the hobby for about 16 yrs.
Perhaps at one time when I was younger, I may have felt differently about remaining single, since many of my friends were married and had kids. I've been in long term relationships on a couple of occasions, but I enjoy my freedom and independence too much to be tied down to the family life.
I've been enjoying the hobby for years and it fits into my current lifestyle very well. And needless to say, the money that I saved which would have gone towards supporting a family, kids college tuition, and whatnot, gets funneled into the hobby, traveling, as well as my other interests.
...except I have always known that I would never want to marry or have children, and I discovered the hobby at an early enough age that I knew that I had a viable alternative sexual outlet.
I'm single also, no kids that I am aware of. Never been an issue in the game. I have heard the same...just be honest, and tell them.
So many of the ladies that I see (maybe half or so) seem surprised to learn of my status, so I figured that there must be some factors at work that I do not perceive or understand. I want to know what they might be.
"I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy. "
My perspective:
You show up with different expectations than a married man. Half the "job" of seeing a married man is done already by him crossing my threshold into Freedom. * You are already Free.
We also know you are on to women's games. You haven't fallen for the power of the pussy.
A provider will have to be at her Best to "make you happy".
I also made a conscious choice at a young age to stay single and not have children. I also value my freedom too much. Even in this world, I won't consider any sort of 'sugar baby' arrangement, because I don't want the commitments.
I have had three civi guys ask me to marry them, and I turned them all down. It is quite difficult for me to see a situation where that might change. I never say never, but it is extremely unlikely! Well....children I will say never to.
As far as childless goes, it's generally worse for us ladies then for men. Being an eternal bachelor is far more acceptable than a woman being an 'old maid'. Even the vernacular used to describe the two is less negative for the masculine. Our society is not kind to women who choose not to have children, and I have been admonished regularly for my choices. I have been told that it is unnatural and selfish regularly. The selfish bit, I really don't get either. On the contrary, I believe that choosing to have child is one of the most ego driven and selfish things that a person can possibly do.
Also, to speak to the Latin America question you started with. Yes, it is worse down there. I lived in Mexico for several years, and having children is expected for everyone except the priests and nuns. There were older women working where I did, and there was usually a sense of panic in their eyes when I told them that I was in my mid 30s and childless. One woman I became rather close with broke down in tears one day, because she was so worried about me being alone when I got old, and she practically begged me to have a child. It
I think it's a shock because we are the exception in our culture, and not the norm.
I have never fallen for the old belief system that I have to be married with children.
It's interesting the married-with-children women that love to Judge and put me down because of
my willingness to Be Who I am.
I inherently valued my Freedom MORE than what people Thought of me.
My decision was Perfect for Me.
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Now that you mention it, I realize that the hookers in Latin America who seemed surprised to learn that I was a childless bachelor were more surprised at my childlessness than my bachelorhood. Most of the hookers down there have at least one child, if not more. (I met one girl who already had five children at the age of 25.)
The hookers down there frequently claim that they only work as hookers in order to support children. In some cases I believed them, but in other cases I think that they were either trying to make themselves feel better about their livelihood, to give themselves an air of greater respectability to prospective clients, or to cover up for the fact that they were really hookers because they enjoyed the lifestyle of constantly partying in bars, clubs, and hotels and having lots of cash and sex instead of having a much lower-paying and less entertaining 9-to-5 job. Many of the hookers who claimed that they were working to support children seemed to spend a lot of money on luxuries that were not work expenses (e.g. clothing and cosmetics to attract customers)
I'm a bit younger than you but a similar situation. A significant amount of my friends are with long term girlfriends and will likely get married shortly. My longest civvie relationship has been 6 months. The debate I have been struggling with going forward in my adult life is do I want to commit to one person financially and spiritually "for the rest of my life"?
I have zero problem getting a civvie in the real world. The reason I hobby is akin to what someone else mentioned that I am extremely selfish I watch sports on the weekends, go to the beach, and hangout with friends. I don't have to be responsible for a SO birthday, flowers, fighting, family all the BS that comes with a relationship.
As someone who is in his mid 30's with no kids or SO, does it get lonely at times? Do you have a large family where it's easier for you to just be the cool uncle? I'm seriously debating going this route as I don't want to contribute to the overpopulation our planet is currently experiencing as well as having to pay the rising cost of supporting children in today's world.
During my two recent mongering trips to Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, a larger proportion of hookers (or “chicas,” in local usage) seemed more surprised to learn the above. I believe that Latin America's more family-centric culture may explain the greater frequency and strength of these chicas' reactions, but I suspect that the root cause of their reactions may have been the same as or related to that of their American counterparts.
Are my single status and lack of children unusual among American mongers? I have definitely gotten the impression that most mongers are married and/or have children, and that single guys with no children are in the minority, but I did not think that my status would be rare enough among mongers to be surprising.
Could the reactions of these American and Latina hookers have instead been an attempt to compliment me, so as to make the sessions more enjoyable for me by flattering me? In other words, were they trying to imply rhetorically, “you are such a desirable man, why hasn't some woman taken you off the market yet?”
I remain single and childless by choice because I value my freedom and independence over all else, which shapes many aspects of my life, including my career, my politics, and my sex life. In the absence of a marital sex partner, I pursue this hobby as a more cost-effective way to fulfill my sexual needs (in terms of the time, money, and energy that it consumes and the quality that it yields in return) than civilian dating or hookups, and it is probably more cost-effective than marriage would be anyway. This hobby leaves me free to do so much more with the remainder of my free time and energy and disposable income than I could if I were married or constantly chasing civilian pussy.
I have heard similar reasoning from other mongers before, so why do my single status and lack of children seem to come as a surprise to many providers? There must be other mongers out there who have reached the same or similar conclusions as me and thus decided to stay single.
...and on the rare occasion that it does get lonely, an hour or two with a provider with outstanding GFE skills should fix it. If that doesn't work, remember all the B.S. that comes with a relationship and you will appreciate your solitude.
I usually keep myself quite busy, and I populate much of my free time with "guy stuff" and non-mongering hobbies that have nothing to do with women or sex. I thus tend to keep my mind off women or sex when I am not actually mongering or planning my mongering.
I do have a large family, but I prefer to keep my distance from them. If I spent more time with them, it would probably just remind me why I am better off single and childless.
If anyone ever told me that I had to commit to one person spiritually and financially for the rest of my life, I would probably die of a heart attack right then and there