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and just what is wrong with being called a "john"???
GaGambler 367 reads
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You are a hooker, I am a john. The truth only hurts if you are ashamed of what you do.  

I used to be a very "high volume" guy, often seeing four or five different ladies in a single day, it would be the height of hypocrisy for me to look down on a woman for doing the same. If OTOH some women are "low volume" I am ok with that too, It doesn't make any better or any worse in bed as far as I am concerned. What you do with the other 23 hours of the day I see you is your own business.

Onlyalurker4585 reads

Had a provider recently tell me that. I am sure it was true and I like honest girls, but it also turned me off. Is it a good idea to be this blunt?

Mscurious873 reads

"I'm getting fucked all weekend"
I think the first one sounds better.  


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GaGambler638 reads

come on you can tell us, I promise you we won't tell her anything you say here. lol

Onlyalurker553 reads

Yes, I was 50 bucks short. Dang it! After I turn in all those empty beer bottles from my backyard, I will try again :)

Mscurious580 reads

Well what do you expect?Shes a working girl

Well hey it is good to hear how some clients feel. There is always a better way to say things to not ruffle any feathers:-)

..even if it's a lie to avoid certain hobbyists. It leaves no ambiguity. She ain't available and that's clear.

I'm curious - why is that a turn off? To many people it be a turn on and it would make them want to book her even more.

This is the business of P4P.  You may hype yourself up to see a provider who advertises "low volume" but do you really believe that low volume only means she's seeing you for the day?  I appreciate honesty, and if she says she's booked up for the week then that's a better alternative than a no reply or sitting in a parking lot hoping someone cancels so you can jump in like a game of hopscotch.  

If reading all her reviews didn't turn you off, then her being honest about her weekly schedule shouldn't. It may just be disappointing to you that you're not one of the clients she's seeing that week.

... that she wouldn't see a certain Dallas Hobbiest because he had several hundred reviews on another board and Okays on P411.  What?  This Provider probably bedded more guys than he did girls but he had Seen to many woman so he wasn't safe.  

As Davincib1 said, what do you think is going on and what is everyone here for?

Same thing has happened to me. Apparently I had seen too many providers, I have also been declined because the girls I have seen have been too "model type."  Whatever that means.  Women come in all shapes, types and physiques. If I choose to see a thick, slim/petite, short/tall lady, it really shouldn't matter to the lady I am inquiring to see. I've looked at your photos and thought enough to want a session. It's not "Love Connection," more like "Let's Make a Date."

Posted By: davincib1
Same thing has happened to me. Apparently I had seen too many providers, I have also been declined because the girls I have seen have been too "model type."  Whatever that means.
This one I think I understand, seriously. If a Provider sees a record that you enjoy the company of certain "model types," ENJOY might be interpreted to mean PREFER. If she, herself, isn't in that category, she's afraid of a bad review based on body type and expectations. 'I don't think we're a good match.' kind of reasoning.  

Service from "model type" might get your 10, 10.
Exact same (or better!) service from "not your preferred model type" might only get your 8, 8.

That, I think, is part of the reasoning.

Honest question. I'll tell people I'm booked solid or something similar but that doesn't mean I'm booked solid seeing gentleman. It means I have social obligations and things to do. Without having to give someone a blow by blow of why I don't have time, what's a better way to answer the availability question?
xoxo
Eve

I think some of us like the fantasy that we are the only one. I try not to think of all the others. A good way to say is would be I am not available and possible add some embellishment.

Posted By: EveKane
Honest question. I'll tell people I'm booked solid or something similar but that doesn't mean I'm booked solid seeing gentleman. It means I have social obligations and things to do.
Exactly. That is the sort of thing that seems obvious to me and I don't need a copy of your daily calendar for proof.  
Without having to give someone a blow by blow of why I don't have time, what's a better way to answer the availability question?
Some of the hobbyist replies indicate that there is no good ways to present your lack of availability. After all, they assume that Providers are just Fucking Machines with no real lives to consider. Eat, sleep, see clients, repeat.

Maybe some prefabricated non-sexual lies would be more acceptable?  
- I'm attending a wedding in Karachi. Won't be in town. Unavailable.
- I got a bad sunburn at the beach on Thursday. Unavailable until the pain subsides.
- They revoked my weekend prison furlough pass, so I'm back in the slammer and unavailable ... until I give the warden another free session

the doctor said the rash won't subside for another week...

That pretty much sums it all up. It seems some like to put the Madonna mask on Women who blatantly care not for such a thing.  

A severe pet peeve of mine is that an overwhelming number of hobbyists believe that Providers do everyone they see. The reality is is that it isn't that type of party. Some sessions are fetish, some are bdsm, some are purely for the pleasure of the gent. Some are cuddle sessions, some just want company etc. I think it's lame the mindset that some hobbyists have when they partake in this game

as i said above, many ladies tell me when i ask for a specific date "sorry i'm busy that week/weekend/day/whatever."

the word "booked" implies business transaction.

"busy" just means got lots of shit to do, whether it's laundry, shopping, or bbbs, it's a lot less specific.

however it shouldn't make a difference to my opinion.

Onlyalurker525 reads

You see that's exactly my point. If I asked for a specific time or date like you do, then it would be understandable, but I didn't. I think that sometimes new and young providers say things that a more experienced one wouldn't. This is one of them.

Onlyalurker467 reads

see only one client a day! I realize that providers don't just sit around playing checkers with their girlfriends all day waiting for you to call. But in general, it's probably not a good idea to tell a man about other clients.

see high-volume girls or you are going to make yourself crazy.  Its amazing the way many Newbies think its just them and their provider in a complete vacuum, with no other customers, ever.

Gosh, I'm not sure what that makes me, because I like em slutty. The slutier, nastier the better.

Ego is useless, as useless as jealousy. Nothing to be gained by either.

Remember, I owe you a drink or 3 if we ever cross paths.

Rock on.

...I know she will be seeing others. How many? None of my business. As long as we don't pass one another in the doorway I don't care. Like I said, I don't care if she tells me or not. Why try to tell me it's not a good idea for her to tell a man about other clients. Besides the OP didn't say she told him about other clients he said she told him she was booked for the whole weekend. That doesn't tell anyone a thing about the clients.

The term low volume might differ between ladies. But let's say a Provider sees 3 clients per day and considers that to be low volume.  Maybe just a couple dudes if multi hour appts are scheduled. On Saturday & Sunday her quota is filled by 4 -6 bookings of various lengths.  In her mind she's having a successful weekend and thus considers herself to be " booked solid"!
So it doesn't necessarily mean a line is forming down the hallway of her hotel room.

Who knows where the truth lies. Maybe she had personal plans for the weekend along with a couple good bookings. Maybe she's not feeling well.....maybe to her the excuse term of " booked solid" did not seem negative.

Then again perhaps she is packing them in. If she's a BP lady with low rates you can probably count on it. If she's top tier and pricey I wouldn't worry about it.

Sometimes I fear we all are guilty of overthinking this stuff.

Geesh , if nature had wired the male species differently I hate to think how " high volume" I'd be .....lol

It's equally as possible that, like STP said, she has a personal quota, i.e. one or two people a day and is booked.  

Also, without going into detail about my very strong opinions on this, please be careful what you ask a provider. I don't know if the OP asked the provider why she couldn't meet or if she just volunteered it, but for me as a person I hate lying, spinning the truth, coming up with "harmless" excuses, etc. If I say I'm busy/not available and someone asks why, I just don't have the mental energy to be like "what time of day is it, what stores are open, what am I doing that takes up my entire day/weekend, does this sound believable" blah blah blah.  

God I get rant-y so quickly.  

Point is, she wasn't available and everything will be okay lol

This could mean different things than what you're likely imagining, given that it turned you off.  

She might very well have an all-weekend date.  Or two overnights, which are all she's willing to take.  

Or, yes, she could be fucking several people per day.  

 
Usually, if I'm not available, I simply say that.   Yeah, some have then responded "wow, you're really a busy gal!" or "I think I'll go with someone who's less popular, thanks" when they have no idea that my limits are much lower than they imagine.

And honestly?  I really don't consider it to be anyone's business if I am at my client maximum for the day, or if I decided not to work that day but didn't feel like changing my posted availability.  :-)

Not available means not available, nothing more.

And "booked solid" might be the same: she only wants to see one person, she's already got that booked and therefore she's fully booked.

 
Please don't read more into these things than there is.  ;-)

She could have just one client per day. She could have two and then social events. She could just not wanted to see you. You are reading WAY too much into this and about you not wanting to hear about other guys lol. Good luck with that. :) Enjoy your day

Posted By: SensualShai
You are reading WAY too much into this and about you not wanting to hear about other guys lol. Good luck with that.
really dude you're in the wrong arena if you don't want to hear about other guys doing the girl you're doing

Maybe all you girls should start saying "I more than enough money just now so check back later after I spend some" ;-)

That way all these guys reading so much into a polite decline at the time can start imagining your return nice and virgin fresh! (though most of the one's I see are really good at making that impression even when I'm highly confident they've seen someone that day before I ever showed up)

You're failing to see the forest here, methinks. Guessing she told you she was booked because you had asked to see her, correct? While you did not get the answer you wanted, she gave you a couple goodies. You got an answer, and the answer does not close any doors at all. Your choice but if it was me, I would book right now for next weekend. And make it two hours...

I waited 2 months to meet a M&G/Soiree honey that's a knockout.
She only works Saturdays and I'm only off one Saturday every 4 weeks. I let it be known that I'd book my next Saturday off right now regardless of where she was. One hosting venue was 50 miles from home. Told agency I didn't care ... they penciled me in and when she confirmed she was working that day, I was set.

As a courtesy, the agency booked her in a really nice hotel 10 minutes from my home. Patience, courtesy and desire go a long way in this arena. A long way. Be patient with whom you really want to see ... BTW, she rocked my world that day and is a definite repeat.
When our planets align.

Obviously no one feels jealous, everyone understands the nature of the arrangement. But getting real time updates on when she is hooking up with other people is a bit too much. Her saying she is booked solid is not a biggie though, its definitely a tactful way to put it.

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That would turn me on, I absolutely adore sluts.

My expectations are that she allow enough time between appointments to wash that muffin, brush her teeth, refresh her make up and rest up. but I get turned on knowing she's been sucking and fucking guys all day.

I've never been with a virgin, and I have no interest in doing so, I like a well practiced professional.  

I find it comical how some civie women are all proud that they've only had say 4 sexual partners in their life, as if it's some kind of badge of honor. And these are the same kind of women who say "Im not putting that in my mouth, Im too classy for that", and the kind of woman who lays back spreads her legs and thinks that's enough. Well, whatever floats your boat, I like women who have been around, who know how to make a man happy sexually.

We can celebrate our differences, life would be extremely boring if we all liked the same thing.

A lady I used to see included her daily status on her website. Before sending an invitation, I could always look to see if she was available, saving us both the time of an unneeded 'booked solid' communication.  

One time, after I hadn't seen her in quite some time, I told her that the reason was, according to her website, she was always booked during my availability. Her response was interesting. She said that booked can mean several different things. It might mean booked. It might mean she doesn't want to work. It might mean she's taking the morning, or afternoon off. It might mean a family emergency or a dr. appointment. It might mean she's tired of dealing with all us knuckleheads, and she's taking a few days off. She then stated that a favorite client should always inquire regardless of what her website said. She stated that many times she could find availability for a favorite gentleman.  

So I'm not sure you should get turned off. Her booked solid might mean something entirely different than what you were thinking. So how many guys does it take to turn you off

he didn't say to you, "Please don't ever call me again", or "I am not taking new clients" or worse, "I don't fee we are compatible and do not wish to have you as a client".  

All she said was "I am booked solid through the weekend". So what. This could mean so many things, its really not worth your time getting ruffled. Maybe she is high volume and is in fact seeing 36 guys over three days straight. Or Maybe she has one client for the entire weekend.  Or maybe she is seeing no one, (visiting family instead) and wanted to make it seem like she was popular. Maybe she didn't like that you contacted her on shorter notice that she prefers, and again wanted to impress upon you to book earlier. Who knows. But at the end of the day, don't let it bother you.  

Send her another appointment request when you are ready. Maybe she blows you off again and you move on... or just maybe you do get to see her and establish a great relationship.

I don't think that anyone has ever lied to a stranger.

Posted By: Onlyalurker
Had a provider recently tell me that. I am sure it was true and I like honest girls, but it also turned me off. Is it a good idea to be this blunt?

Onlyalurker445 reads

Hi there such and such. Just read your reviews and would like to make an appointment. To which she replied: oh, I am booked solid through the weekend. How about Monday or Tuesday? In my opinion, the part about being booked solid was simply unnecessary and should have been skipped

seriously dude, she offered you an alternative, and you're still bent out of shape?

sorry to be mean, but this endeavor is not for the thin-skinned.

it's a job.  she's working.  she's not available for two days, but the next two days she's wide open, pun intended.

so why in the wide world of sports do you feel the need to be self-righteous about it?

news flash:  you're not the only guy she sees.

sorry to be blunt.

Onlyalurker455 reads

I don't think you even read my comments. Everyone knows providers see as many clients as possible, but most will be descreet and not mention them. And most guys prefer it that way. (maybe you are the exception)

How would you know that? Take this site. Most people here are here for the review that are extremely graphic about these ladies. It doesn't turn most guys away, in fact my provider friends tell me a fresh review increases there business more so then an add. It doesn't seem to turn most men off. Most people get what this is and accept it. I am glad to hear a lady is getting the business she desires.  

I point to every review site out there is proof MOST clients have no issues accepting ladies have other clients and don't mind it. What proof do have I am wrong?

Onlyalurker386 reads

I myself like graphic reviews as much as anyone and have no problem with providers having as many clients as they want. In fact, I often introduce my friends to providers that I like. It is only during my own conversations and sessions with the girls that I prefer not to hear about their other clients.

Please don't assume "we all do this!"

I for one don't like to play twice a day.  
Not my style.Besides, i don't run an In call.  So, my specialty is outcalls.  
outcalls are more exciting for me.  
I enjoy getting myself ready, and it feels like I'm going on a blind date.  
With the certainty that were both going to enjoy our time together.  
There is such a thing as "low volume."
Specially, when a gentlemen seek what I offer, and appreciate honesty, fun and charisma.  
Besides a good time.  

No seriously.Don't put all of us companions, or the providers in the same category!
You wouldn't like it if you were called a "john" would you?

Sometimes, I wonder if some men are jaded. Because of their experiences?  



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GaGambler368 reads

You are a hooker, I am a john. The truth only hurts if you are ashamed of what you do.  

I used to be a very "high volume" guy, often seeing four or five different ladies in a single day, it would be the height of hypocrisy for me to look down on a woman for doing the same. If OTOH some women are "low volume" I am ok with that too, It doesn't make any better or any worse in bed as far as I am concerned. What you do with the other 23 hours of the day I see you is your own business.

So, a provider you've never met before found time to see you within 3 days, and was conversational about it. You, sir, got great customer service & are standing your ground bitching up a storm about it.

When I see a provider, it's "unnecessary" for her to swallow. DON'T YOU DARE suggest that because something's "unnecessary", it should be skipped if she wants to do it!!! Total Logic Fail.

Posted By: Onlyalurker
Hi there such and such. Just read your reviews and would like to make an appointment. To which she replied: oh, I am booked solid through the weekend. How about Monday or Tuesday? In my opinion, the part about being booked solid was simply unnecessary and should have been skipped.  
   
 

theatre that was sold out, would you rather them tell you right off the bat so you can plan something else, or would you rather them make you wait around all weekend and keep trying to buy a ticket to a sold-out show?

Its a business, so OF COURSE its okay to be blunt when they are not available.  She even told you why, so you wouldn't think she was just blowing you off.

Booked solid could have been a lot of things..weekend plans with family, a civie date, or just wanted some down time.  We're not blow up dolls with a pulse. We have real life friends, family, hobby's,  and some of us have jobs....it's much easier to just say I'm booked.  

At least she got back to you within a reasonable time so you could make other arrangements

...a nun's habit!

I kid, I kid.  I must echo what others have stated here: booked solid may very likely mean busy with vanilla job, family, etc.  It's best not to overthink these little turns of speech, just go forth and have fun!

personally women usually tell me they are "busy" all next week or whatever, but usually they offer an alternative date beyond that.  nobody has told me they were booked, but i wouldn't get "turned off."  it's not like i don't know they are seeing other clients, in fact many of the ladies i see are quite open about the other clients they see; not to the point of revealing info, pls don't misunderstand me.  just things like "i have one guy who likes to..." or "one guy did this so i stopped seeing him" etc etc.

hey, she's honest.  try again later.

Hope not as this isn't the place to find that.  

Here is the thing, every woman here is seeing multiple people in a given time frame to meet her needs. The exact amount of clients veries greatly from lady to lady of course but still everyone of then is seeing more than you. I would guess that even the most low volume lady exceeds the CDC's definition of high risk of five partners a year or bedding a partner that has 5 or more partners.  

So givin every lady (and every hobbyist) is a high risk partner, and giving there isn't really any such thing as exclusively in the P4P market (there is in the SB market but not P4P), I don't see if this game is for you it would bother you if she reached her quota for the weekend. It would make me want to see her more knowing she sets limits and doesn't double book.

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Onlyalurker455 reads

No, but from a man's (at least mine) point of view it's a matter of preference. There are always other girls for a guy to see. If I asked two providers this same question and one of them said "I am booked solid for the next 3 days, how about Monday?" and the other just said : "Monday will work" I would see the latter. Which is exactly what happened by the way.

Epicurus61429 reads

guess what. even then her SO probably fucked her BB Sunday night.

ShillBill413 reads

So I see you've graduated from the San Diego board, this should be interesting. I may have to dust off the Mark Twain quote.  

Posted By: Onlyalurker
No, but from a man's (at least mine) point of view it's a matter of preference. There are always other girls for a guy to see. If I asked two providers this same question and one of them said "I am booked solid for the next 3 days, how about Monday?" and the other just said : "Monday will work" I would see the latter. Which is exactly what happened by the way.

I could just mean she see's two clients a day and both days are "booked"... I does not necessarily mean she is booked back to back 24x7 through the weekend

....may also mean she had personal plans, family plans, maybe an overnight or weekend getaway planned. Don't assume anything. Maybe one or two appointments is her limit. Respect her reply and ask for another possible time frame later.  

Where I am there are two regulars I enjoy seeing. They travel some so I can't always see them at will. They let me know they would be happy to see me soon though.

Posted By: Onlyalurker
Had a provider recently tell me that. I am sure it was true and I like honest girls, but it also turned me off. Is it a good idea to be this blunt?

Posted By: Onlyalurker
Had a provider recently tell me that. I am sure it was true and I like honest girls, but it also turned me off. Is it a good idea to be this blunt?

You don't mind reading her graphic reviews of other guys fucking her but if she has no availability, that turns you off???
Personally,  I book up a a few weeks to a month in advance sometime but it doesn't mean I'm fucking 10 guys a week day in and day out lol!!
If her lack of availability turns you off, you'll probably be turned off more often than not in this little world we have here.

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