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Posted By: nobody305
Just the other night I had a date set up with my regular friend to stop by my hotel room for one of our hot session. When she text me to find out my room number I knew that she was close to the hotel. I can see the parking lot from the window of my hotel room. So I was watching for her to pull into the parking that way I knew she would be up and knocking at my door soon. As she parked Johnny law follow her into the parking lot and walked up to her car. As I watch this happen I was wondering what was going on, I thought maybe she was speeding to get to me. He talked to her for couple minutes then got back into his car. After Johnny law left the parking lot she waited for a few minutes then came up.  
   
 When she came up and told me what happen and what question he asked. One of the questions he asked is what was she doing here. She told him that she was visiting a friend. Our date went on with no problems and had a great time with her like always. Now after she left me she texted me about a hour later to tell me that she got pulled over again but this time with a drug dog. I got to say it was a weird night for her. I am pretty sure it was drug related stop in the parking lot the first time also. They must of saw her later that night and decided to check her out again.  
   
 This got me thinking about if Johnny law wanted to come up and talked with me what would be a good excuse for us meeting at a hotel. One possible excuse would co-workers having an affair. The only problem would be that I don’t know her real name. Plus I don’t live in the state where I play.  
   
 Now my question to you all is this what would be a good excuse for two adult meeting in a hotel if this scenario happen? That Leo came up to my room with her asked me if I knew her and the reason for her visit.  
 

nobody3052170 reads

Just the other night I had a date set up with my regular friend to stop by my hotel room for one of our hot session. When she text me to find out my room number I knew that she was close to the hotel. I can see the parking lot from the window of my hotel room. So I was watching for her to pull into the parking that way I knew she would be up and knocking at my door soon. As she parked Johnny law follow her into the parking lot and walked up to her car. As I watch this happen I was wondering what was going on, I thought maybe she was speeding to get to me. He talked to her for couple minutes then got back into his car. After Johnny law left the parking lot she waited for a few minutes then came up.

When she came up and told me what happen and what question he asked. One of the questions he asked is what was she doing here. She told him that she was visiting a friend. Our date went on with no problems and had a great time with her like always. Now after she left me she texted me about a hour later to tell me that she got pulled over again but this time with a drug dog. I got to say it was a weird night for her. I am pretty sure it was drug related stop in the parking lot the first time also. They must of saw her later that night and decided to check her out again.

This got me thinking about if Johnny law wanted to come up and talked with me what would be a good excuse for us meeting at a hotel. One possible excuse would co-workers having an affair. The only problem would be that I don’t know her real name. Plus I don’t live in the state where I play.

Now my question to you all is this what would be a good excuse for two adult meeting in a hotel if this scenario happen? That Leo came up to my room with her asked me if I knew her and the reason for her visit

JakeFromStateFarm628 reads

They'll never arrest either of you for prostitution.  I guarantee it.

GaGambler465 reads

Just not 100% of the truth, 90% of the truth will do just fine.

Me to cop "Isn't it pretty obvious what we are doing here? We are about to have sex, what does it look like we are doing? Now if you have no further questions, I'd REALLY like to get back to what we were doing"

JakeFromStateFarm524 reads

Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition.
Come to NY some time and I'll show ya.

Well, except that she is your hired escort. I would keep any answers to a minimum and don't give them permission to inspect you or the room. If they continue to do so without probable cause THEY could be the ones in trouble.  

Keep in mind that there is no law against adultery or meeting a young girl for sex. Tell them to pound sand!

"That's your gf" "your ex wife" "FWB" etc etc etc....

It's really none of their business.  For all they know,  you both could have gone to HS together or whatever and just meeting up for drinks,  or (again) whatever. It's nobody's business and when did being friends ever become a bad thing. That whole situation just really looks strange. ....well except you both had fun! :) Maybe they were watching for single people coming and going from the hotel? ?  
XOXO,  
TL

nobody305590 reads

Its hard to say on what the real reason they had to question her. It just could of been the color of her car that being red :) Not sure as long as nothing bad came of it it's all good.

Yes, absolutely and you also could have just met her that day and it was love at first sight!  Lol! The PROBLEM is the MONEY.  
Hell, you could have an orgy going on and if there is no money around....ummm doesn't matter lol your lady should always know what to do with the money or you should in a situation like that. I wouldn't let them search my room OR enter without a warrant.  That's just harassment at that point IMO  
XOXO,  
TL

nobody305539 reads

Very true
 I would not let them into my room at all.

"We're friends, I'm visiting from out of town, and we wanted to see each other, but our schedule conflicts meant this was the only time we could visit."

But they have no real reason to be at your door, so you could ask, "what business is it of yours?"

GaGambler460 reads

Polite yet firm is the way to deal with LE in this type of situation. As law abiding citizens behind closed doors in a hotel room you have paid for, you don't need to explain every detail of your life.  

Let's put it this way, if you really were banging some FWB of yours and the cops came to your door, knowing full well you weren't guilty of a damn thing, would you still feel the need to explain all this to the cops? Of course not, you'd tell them to leave you the hell alone so you could get back to fucking. That's the same attitude you need to take when you are guilty. Liars always feel the need to add unnecessary details, people telling the truth rarely feel the need.

It also covers the fact that you don't know her real name.  Just make sure you don't have money in the room in an envelope.  I rarely do hotel outcalls unless I'm traveling on business, but when I do, I put the money in a birthday card I bought at target and just write happy birthday on it, no name.  It doesn't matter who has the card in their possession if it gets discovered by LE.  Let them try to prove it has anything to do with money for sex.

GaGambler470 reads

First off, I can't imagine LE ever knocking at my door, but if they ever did I don't think I would ever even allow it to go that far. Nor would I answer any "incriminating" questions. I would answer a question like "what are the two of you doing?" with the very noncommittal "What does it look like we are doing? and I would like to get back to it" followed by "and unless you have a VERY good reason to be bothering me, that is exactly what I plan on doing, are we done here?"

If the police were insistent, I would simply ask if I were a suspect in a crime in which case I need to call my lawyer before either of us speak to you and if I am not suspected of committing a crime than I have no desire to speak to you, and once again repeat my previously asked question "are we done here?" At that point the police have no choice but the either leave you alone or state that you are indeed a suspect at which point all communication stops until a lawyer arrives.

souls_harbor436 reads

Do NOT answer questions put to you by LE!   They are not your friend.  Ask if you are being detained.  If so, request to speak with your lawyer before answering their questions.  Do NOT commit perjury when it is perfectly legal for you to refrain from answering at all.

+1.  Making a false statement is a catchall charge local and federal prosecutors commonly use when nothing else will stick.

Posted By: souls_harbor
Do NOT answer questions put to you by LE!   They are not your friend.  Ask if you are being detained.  If so, request to speak with your lawyer before answering their questions.  Do NOT commit perjury when it is perfectly legal for you to refrain from answering at all.

nobody305462 reads

How she handle it in the parking lot talking with Johnny law, and that that she didn't chicken out and went back home.

-- Modified on 6/20/2016 11:31:56 PM

I was visiting my ATF at her incall hotel, which was her hotel of choice for over two years.  I called her on my cell to let her know I was here when I arrived and parked on the street...she proceeded to give me her room number, standard part 2 of the two call system.  As I walked to the hotel, there was a car across the street parked, running, with two men inside...vibe told me they were Uncle Leo.  I just kept walking, since it was easy to be incognito at that time of night given that nearby mall was still open.  As I approached the front entrance to the hotel, there were two more police cruisers across the street, in front of a chain restaurant were I had once had dinner with the same lady I was visiting.  Just kept walking, and made my way to her room.  I told her what I had seen, she was interested, to say the least, and we checked out their activity from her room window.  A couple of cops brought out bags of food from the restaurant a few minutes later, and the two marked cars left.   We then proceeded...Happy Hour plus!  

Things got interesting afterward, as I walked back.  The mall had closed, and most of their customers had left.  That first car I saw, was still their, motor running, same two dudes in the car.  I sensed LE danger, and drove away without passing them, or needing to make a K or U turn.  I contacted her on the way home, with that observation.   She rarely stays at that hotel now...which was the scene of a sting which netted several CL (at the time) based ladies and hobbyists.

Bottom line:  Weird things can happen in this hobby.  If they seem too threatening, walk away if you can.  And if you ever are confronted by LE, your right to remain silent is golden.  Unless they are going to arrest you, just ask them if you can leave.  Keeping your mouth shut is paramount!   If you do get busted, say nothing besides that you want to see your attorney.  Cooperate with their procedures, and don't lie to them...that's perjury.

and say nothing.  Nothing you can say will be helpful and anything you say can get you into trouble.  
Tell them she is an old girl friend and you have lied to police and obstructed justice.  

-- Modified on 6/21/2016 4:52:28 AM

When you said "...she text me..."

LE is on the lookout for people texting while driving.  Not only is that illegal, but it is often a tip off that the person is into illegal activity, e.g. drug dealing, which explains why she got pulled over with a drug sniffing dog later that night.

I suppose it would be harmless enough to say that you're lovers having a tryst, but if you don't know her real name and they check that out, that could be all the probable cause they need to make a bust for something.

Lesson for all:  Don't text while you are driving.  Not only do you put your safety (and others) at risk, but you become a lure for LE.   Just wait and find a parking lot to pull into and text from there

Posted By: nobody305
Just the other night I had a date set up with my regular friend to stop by my hotel room for one of our hot session. When she text me to find out my room number I knew that she was close to the hotel. I can see the parking lot from the window of my hotel room. So I was watching for her to pull into the parking that way I knew she would be up and knocking at my door soon. As she parked Johnny law follow her into the parking lot and walked up to her car. As I watch this happen I was wondering what was going on, I thought maybe she was speeding to get to me. He talked to her for couple minutes then got back into his car. After Johnny law left the parking lot she waited for a few minutes then came up.  
   
 When she came up and told me what happen and what question he asked. One of the questions he asked is what was she doing here. She told him that she was visiting a friend. Our date went on with no problems and had a great time with her like always. Now after she left me she texted me about a hour later to tell me that she got pulled over again but this time with a drug dog. I got to say it was a weird night for her. I am pretty sure it was drug related stop in the parking lot the first time also. They must of saw her later that night and decided to check her out again.  
   
 This got me thinking about if Johnny law wanted to come up and talked with me what would be a good excuse for us meeting at a hotel. One possible excuse would co-workers having an affair. The only problem would be that I don’t know her real name. Plus I don’t live in the state where I play.  
   
 Now my question to you all is this what would be a good excuse for two adult meeting in a hotel if this scenario happen? That Leo came up to my room with her asked me if I knew her and the reason for her visit.  
 

Simply say nothing. One of the biggest mistakes we make is to think that we can talk our way out of a pickle with LE. Simply say nothing. Unless they have something on you, they really can't do anything. It won't be pretty that's for sure but lying and then keep building on lies can only lead to contradictions and it will fuel their inquiries.

Posted By: sasha2cute
Simply say nothing. One of the biggest mistakes we make is to think that we can talk our way out of a pickle with LE. Simply say nothing. Unless they have something on you, they really can't do anything. It won't be pretty that's for sure but lying and then keep building on lies can only lead to contradictions and it will fuel their inquiries.
Good point say nothing folks.

ATLDAWG499 reads

Say nothing-any story you make up will come unraveled when they ask the gal the same question and she gives a different answer......and if your answer is different to a question they ask her-same result.

Very likely LE has been watching the hotel and recognize the car and the gal from previous visits.  Don't be so naïve to think the gal hasn't been to that property before-so they pretty much know what is happening and once they can get inside the car to search it is probably "Game Over" because the smallest amount of an illegal substance will get it done!  Also if she is carrying say $900 in 20's and 100's and driving a 1990 Toyota with a smashed fender-it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to deduce the real deal !!

nobody305468 reads

Is that she lives two hours away. I am pretty sure she only visit that hotel is when I am there. I could be wrong but I doubt it. Plus she is utr type of lady now.

This is absolutely right. You are under no legal obligation to tell them anything, except in some states to identify yourself.  The dirty little secret that cops don't want you to know is that they are counting on you to incriminate yourself. Always be polite, don't piss them off,  they will quickly realize your are not a moron that is going to incriminate yourself.

With you.  It could be that the cop talked to her about something wrong with her car maybe a taillight out or she did not put her turn signal on or something like that. Depending on where you were they may have a line on her activity and she might be involved somehow with the drug trade. I would never let the cops in my hotel room because I worry that a provider may have narcotics on her and then put the blame on me.  Just sayin.

In my state you can be held until LE can establish your ID...  used to be 72 hours.  Best to give id.  Then ask if you are free to go.  Make no statements about private business...   If a body turns up later, expect a call but otherwise they have nothing...  unless you give it to them.    

In the OP case, likely knew exactly what was up but no evidence.  The follow up was predictable...  which is why it's not smart to have anything illegal on you in these situations.  

Early in my hobby life, I got the serious hairy eyeball from a LE black & white as I was on my way into the mid-range hotel.  At that point I was out of the car & anything else would have looked suspicious so I continued.  I told my Gal exactly what had happened & she said that hotel had requested increased patrols.  We had a good time with no further issues.  
The hotel has changed hands often over the years & seems to be a persistant trouble spot which I did not know then.  I'd avoid it today.

1) Could you tell me why you're asking? Are we/Am I being investigated for something?

2) assuming you are old friends and perhaps know each others real names leave it at that. You're in town and called and old friend to see. (assuming she is actually somewhat local and hope that she basically said the same...which is why 1 is probably better.

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