Has anyone ever heard of getting a "second job"? Many people have a second job to help provide for their families. How about spending your money on upgrading your education, which might help to get a better job, therefore, more money for hobbying. Sorry, didn't mean to preach!
I am a young man (25) making about a dollar more then minimum wage. My budget only allows me to see escorts once or twice a month. My price range when paying for sex is $100-$200. If I pay $200 I can only pay for sex once a month, $150 every 3 weeks, $100 twice a month.
I want to know if it is common for low wage men to visit escorts. It would be nice to know if any of my fellow hobbyists are in a similar situation
I want to know if it is common for low wage men to visit escorts. It would be nice to know if any of my fellow hobbyists are in a similar situation.
There a lot of things you'll hear as u get older. Things like "what comes around goes around", "never bite the hand that feeds you" etc.... And let me assure you one thing. They all come true. And you will eventually learn that.
Yes a young man that makes wages just above min wage can hobby. Depending on ur current expenses you can do anything u want. So remember this when you dish out $150 for a ladies company, "you get what you pay for". That one can't be more true in life. Good luck!
#justsayin
Maybe it was a 30 minute session with a BJ only for $60 but it satisfied me.
As my income rose, so did my budget for the hobby.
You get what you pay for.
I want to know if it is common for low wage men to visit escorts. It would be nice to know if any of my fellow hobbyists are in a similar situation.
A whole bunch of $300/$400 + are highly over rated ! And you don't always get what you think you are paying for-just sayin'!!
You get what you pay for, I was talking about the B&G hos.
I love engaging with gents who occupy diverse class positions. That said, I've seen a tendency where some men book with escorts on the lower end of the rate spectrum due to supposed or actual budget constraints. Yet in reviews or other public commentary they betray their underlying disgust with said escorts, and their resentment that they can't afford to book with escorts who charge higher rates.
Many full service sex workers are also low wage as well as precarious workers. If you understand that sex workers deserve respect whether their rates are $150 or $500 per hour and you treat them accordingly, then you should be straight
I wanted to build up my cred as a newbie so I did six or seven in rather short order, over a couple months. But that didn't allow me time to savor each one and the memories have blended together.
There is something to be said for spacing them out a good distance. One a month or even once every two months. I think two times a month is actually too often
If I only got laid twice a month I'd be climbing the walls and I'd be in such a foul mood that no one would be safe around me. Until recently twice a day was my preferred amount of sex, but now that I am "old" once a day does me just fine with an occasional treat to myself of going two or three times in the same day.
It's the same with hookers, some are worn out after seeing a single client, others can see five or six different guys a day for months without getting burnt out.
For the same reason as has been stated many times on this thread yet already: you get what you pay for
I don't see cheap hookers either, nor do I drink cheap booze or eat fast food that will rot out your insides, but I too am not 25 years old barely able to scrape up fifty bucks a week.
Holding your nose up in the air suggesting you "only" get what you pay for is easy to do, but not terribly helpful to the OP.
I suppose my advice to the OP isn't what he is looking for either. My advice is either make more money, lower your standards, or find a GF or Fuck Buddy. Fucking hookers is hardly a cheap hobby.
If you are only making ten bucks an hour or so, it's tough to do much better than BNG BP girls unless you don't have any bills to pay or you can "do without" for extended periods. I hate to give this kind of advice, but he might be better of finding a GF. (heaven fucking forbid. lol)
However----A gal also earning less than 10 bucks an hour might have a serious interest in becoming a part time sugar baby for a hundred or two from time to time !!
I see a couple of SB's for some pretty modest amounts myself.
How much a Hooker charges is not relavant. And there's a difference between hookers and Escorts.
Hookers walk the streets and Escorts at least do it behind close doors.
You fuck for money, that makes you every bit as much of a hooker as some crack head working the streets, and for the record. I am a john, or a trick or any other term you want to use for a guy who hires prostitutes. It doesn't matter if I am fucking in a penthouse suite or in the back seat of my car, I am still paying for sex.
and to a guy making less than ten bucks an hour, you are damn right it matters to him what a hooker charges.
Save up and go get yourself some top-shelf. I'd rather see one bombshell in 3 months than 3 butter faces in 1 month
I can't imagine being twenty five and only getting laid every third month, I am well over thirty years past twenty five and if I go more than a couple of days with out sex I start getting rather unpleasant to be around. Three months and I'd be an outright danger to the community.
You're no fucking "Day at the Beach" as it is!
Then again, who am I to complain? LOL!
There is a day at the Co Cal on Jaco Beach, or then again there's a windy, blustery, cold, nasty winter day at one of the beaches in your part of the world
You may not find many desirable dates in that price range but they are out there. Diamonds in the rough as "they" say! And I agree with someone else above, maybe spread it out more. Maybe to once a month ors every 6 weeks - and save up for the girl of your dreams instead of settling for what you can afford.
if she'll raise your allowance if you cut the lawn and do your own laundry.
Seriously, if you're making min wage, find a fat girl with low self esteem until you can afford to hobby
There's girls in LA in the 100-200 range you seek. Although it'll be for 30 minutes and maybe a GFE.
Not sure what area you're in but if you're in San Diego or El Paso, skip to the border to beautiful Mexico...I was in Ensenada recently and had a blast.
I set aside $20 per week, which gets me laid once every 2 1/2 months. Although, lately, circumstances have been allowing me to plug a little more away. I probably make about twice minimum wage, but I'm thousands of dollars in debt due my ex's spending habits, and of course, the laws allow her to collect free money from me on a monthly basis. If it weren't for her bullshit, I could probably swing it once or twice a month. Luckily, my ATF adores me and grandfathers my rates; I'm still paying $200 per date with a woman who now charges most of her clients $400 per hour.
Each person has to set their own priorities. If this is what your budget allows, then that's it. Don't spend your rent or grocery money. Save up & play when you can.
GFs are probably more costly than paid escorts. My ex sure was. I'd say that you should be open to GFs, Sugar Babies, Escorts as opportunity allows. Frankly, I wasted money on GFs that I'd have been better off with brief paid encounters.
Wait until you are making much more money. Most hobbyists are making 100K or more a year. Upgrade your skill sets and get another job. In the meantime take your money and save and invest it.
Fifty bucks a week spent on hookers, golf, beer or whatever is not that big a deal.
I hired my first hooker at age 15 and I have managed to do ok for myself despite having several vices along the way.
Sure and ultimately that's what's going to happen -- no one ever follows advice unless that's what they wanted to do.
That said, other than making some type of absolute statement, suggesting that the OP might consider focusing on increasing income and then engaging in the game on some regular basis isn't a terrible thing to do.
I'm not sure why he feels he needs or does need to make plans on regular visits at this point in his life but I might be incline to suggest saving the hobby money for some special treates -- maybe only few times a year -- and then setting a budget of $50.00 a week to go out and try the "you wanna fuck" approach (just keep asking every woman he sees that he as the slightest interest in -- if he asks 150-200 I bet at least one will say yes) with civies his age. He'll develop some great interpersonal communication skills and probably get laid more often than with his current plan. He'll probably have some challenges at first but will work out the delivery and things start working out.
Learning to ask for what he wants will also help out in terms of getting better jobs and income.
A smartphone application to do some trading and use the profits to see providers. There are no brokerage fees.
It's Chicken Little the "hundredaire" stock trader from DC.
My advice to the OP is use you as a template of what NOT to do, in the hobby, in life, in anything.
You are the last person who should be giving anyone advice on any subject what so ever.
That won't let you trade penny and subpenny stocks, lmfao. He should also learn about technical analysis and remember the trend is your friend.
he's an odd duck for sure, if I remember correctly.
How in the world do you know this? Have you taken a survey? How many "hobbyists" are you even familiar with? I've met hundreds of them and you just can't put them into a category like that.
This raises an interesting question, one without easy answers because hobbyists are almost by definition discrete. But if you took 1000 hobbyists, how many spend 1 - 5% of income on the hobby, how many 6 - 10% and so on.
Visiting normal priced escorts say 6 to 8 times a month, could equal a couple grand. Depends on where you live. On a "normal" income of 50K - 75K that is not going to fly. Do the math, it's a third of income for the dude making a nice 75K.
Thus many hobbyists might confront the same problem as our minimum wage fellow, that being that having full access and enjoyment to the hobby isn't cheap until you're making 200K+
For the record, I'm in the 150-200K bracket, and I do find it "expensive" to enjoy as much as I'd like to.
Curious what some others might think of this
but, yeah, it's been a decade since i've made 100k a year, and that decade is when i've hobbied the most.
I have seen in my area is $300 and they do CBJ and no GFE.
Especially the ones that steered you to overpay for pussies.
Instead follow my advice:
There are plenty of cheap pussies to be have you just have to be creative and diligent.
Start with a hugely popular web site that rhymes with "pack beige" where you can have lot of $60 quickies and $80 half hour rate. Just be aware that there are lot of fake pics and unscrupulous girls.
Yes you do need to hone your game to be successful but it's worth it.
Another alternative is to pick up streetwalkers. They are even cheaper than the above-mentioned. Again there are learning curves to avoid the many pitfalls with this game.
When I was young and poor I paid my dues learning the game. Now I'm enjoying the fruits of my education even if I'm no longer poor.
Last but not least when I was 25 I too was too poor to even think about paid pussies. You may not have money but you have youth in your favor. Use it fully to try to get as much free pussies as possible. Sure you may have to lower your standards but "beggar can't be chooser"
Instead follow my advice:
There are plenty of cheap pussies to be have you just have to be creative and diligent.
Start with a hugely popular web site that rhymes with "pack beige" where you can have lot of $60 quickies and $80 half hour rate. Just be aware that there are lot of fake pics and unscrupulous girls.
Yes you do need to hone your game to be successful but it's worth it.
The most I spent on sex was $300 and that was once. She was not nearly as good as the cheaper escorts or sugar babies I had because she lack enthusiasm in bed.
The last escort I seen was a beautiful Asian woman from backpage. She cost $160/hr and we kiss, her hands really roamed my body. she tells me I am hot and so too was she really hot. Her kitty had fur which I prefer, for a lady to have down there. She has small breast that are so dam cute, looked to be B cup but maybe a large A. I will see her again this weekend if she is available.
I live about a 3 hour drive from NYC and Philly, the 2 closest first class cities, so instead I do my escort fucking in Harrisburg, PA, the state capital, a 1hour 15 minute drive away. The cheap escort is Harrisburg are $80 for 20 minutes with the occasional $60 for 15-20 minutes. $150-$200/hr is the basic backpage escort rate in Harrisburg, PA.
I have decided to start NoFap today and will reward myself with an escort for every 2 weeks I do not masturbate. I hope to use the sexual energy I saved by not masturbating to improve my life.
No, you are not alone in having to work within a limited budget...
I make about 60K a year and have a mortgage and living expenses commensurate with living near NYC...I am also single and have no children, which allows me a certain amount of freedom to do the things I want to do without fear of repercussions...and I'm 51 years old...
I can manage about one hour a month with a local provider at 250.00 per hour...two if I'm careful and extra frugal...and that is good enough for me...
In your case I would encourage you to continue as you have been, enjoying what you can when you can...as long as your bills are paid and you are not falling into debt it is your money to do with as you please...would it be wise to save for the future? Of course it would...I put several hundred a month into my IRA...but at the same time I allow myself certain indulgences and cannot deny anyone else their right to do the same...
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will not have much luck finding quality providers on a limited budget. The mid-west is another story.
Best advice is to save up and see higher quality ladies less frequently. Sometimes when I am cash strapped, I will see a massage lady to satisfy the urge.
I am an average working class guy who spent more money on dating women for just a peck on the cheek or warm handshake. Been on plenty of wish I were blind dates. And after all of that, realized how much more economical the hobby really is. Sure, I have to save my pennies, but once I have the money, I get the most value for it buy hiring the date I want, and knowing that the pay out is worth it. No headaches and if I want to see her again, I just make another date.
set up a crowdfunding website for men in your financial position, where you tell your story and others get to send you a little cash to help out. If you could get $!000/month in donations, that one Kgirl a week. Your dick would think it died and went to heaven.
Has anyone ever heard of getting a "second job"? Many people have a second job to help provide for their families. How about spending your money on upgrading your education, which might help to get a better job, therefore, more money for hobbying. Sorry, didn't mean to preach!
I can't really say I disagree with you though.
When I find something that costs me more than I can afford, if it's something I really want my first thought is usually "how can I make more money?" Not "how can I get a cheaper version of what I want?"
Goals will keep you, and your income moving up, not down. The downside of moving up is that as you get more money, your tastes and standards will go up as well, so you're still spending the same percentage of your income for pussy. You're just getting higher quality pussy.
but I think we can agree that life is too short to drink cheap booze or fuck ugly women.
Well actually we agree on lots of shit.
Plenty of fun to be had at those within your budget.
that you're using some of your wages to invest in your education or something so that you wont have to keep working a minimum wage-ish job