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When you are looking for the perfect girl.  Do you match the donation with the type of services offered? Or do you match the donation with the looks?  

I know probably most of you will say it's a combination of looks and services. I would say that while most people strive to find that perfect balance, sometimes I see providers advertising at 1000$ for 60 minutes, yet services like greek, or kissing are off the table. Seems like most providers out a price tag based on having huge tits or a Kim kardashian ass, while I would think hobbyists want services like that on the menu for such donations.  



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but there is an even more important, and somewhat ineffable quality,  namely the right attitude and personality I seek.  I believe this quality comes across in the gal's website, and more importantly, her comportment on the boards, which is how I often gain interest in the gal in question.

need to read the details in the reviews to get an understanding of her performance. Certain things are deal breakers including BBBJ, kissing (both LFK and DFK), GFE (my definition includes the previous mentioned items as well as a non-rush atmosphere), etc. This package needs to be at a competitive price point.

I mean, if she is fugly I will see that in her pics whereas BBBJCIM, enthusiasm in the sack,etc and a great attitude can only be verified by reviews (or word of mouth).  Appearance is fleeting and ephemeral.  Close your eyes and feel with your hands and other appendages and 9 times oit of 10 you end up seeing the Hot Milfs over the vapid bored 19 year olds who are being fawned over for looks but can't fuck her way out of a paper bag.

I look for women who are similar in beauty to the ones who pursue me in real life.  Then I look at services, reviews, and whatever else will tell me about her personality and business ethic.  I also aim for rates that are slightly under average for my market.  So, I will not be ripped off by some $1,000 ditzy blonde who's not even worth $50.

GaGambler482 reads

She better be part of a major law firm representing me in a capital murder trial. A thousand bucks an hour to fuck??? No thank you, no matter how hot or what kind of services she offers. It simply isn't worth it to me. I don't begrudge women for asking whatever the market can bear, just count me out where it comes to the HDH's

To answer your OP however, Looks come first, if she is not attractive to me, I won't be seeing her if she can suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch at $75 hour. Once I have found someone who is attractive to me it's a tie whether I look at her menu/reviews or her price, if she is lacking in either regard, IOW no GFE or charges over $400 hour in my local Dallas market, I move on to the next woman that I find attractive.

First off, it is impossible to imagine paying $1000 an hour for anything.  

And yes, surely there needs to be an attraction, and price and services have to enter the mix as that is what this game is all about.  

But that' not all.

Once I've found someone who looks and sounds like someone I want to pay to be with, professionalism is what makes or breaks it for me. This is the easy part but it sometimes seems like the hard part and when it's the hard part it becomes easy for me to walk away.  But if the communication before our visit is timely, engaging, and enjoyable then I'm all in.  And if this timeliness, engaging personality, and dedication to making it a totally enjoyable time permeates our meeting then you bet I'll be back :)

As a provider. We go through a lot that the Hobbyists do not see from our side of the so called table.  
   We put ourselves at more of a risk then the hobbyists know. If the police get wind of what we do.  
   Then we suffer possible jail time for prostitution(Which is what the law sees this is). In my 21 years of '
   doing this I have seen so many ladies getting arrested because they are just right out stupid when it  
   comes to covering their own asses. They think of the cash before they think of covering their asses.  
   And it does not matter how much she verifies the hobbyist. There's always a risk of getting caught by  
   the police. No site or paper is that secure anymore. You'll be surprised as to how quickly police get  
   wind of where female advertise and how the female advertise. That's why some females do high price.  
   The  female figures that if she's going to jail then she'll make as much as she can till she gets caught  
   and end up bailing herself out and not have to worry about loosing too much money$$$$$

every area has it's market based GFE price range....anything outside of this range usually offers things the others don't.

Posted By: sasha2cute
When you are looking for the perfect girl.  Do you match the donation with the type of services offered? Or do you match the donation with the looks?  
   
 I know probably most of you will say it's a combination of looks and services. I would say that while most people strive to find that perfect balance, sometimes I see providers advertising at 1000$ for 60 minutes, yet services like greek, or kissing are off the table. Seems like most providers out a price tag based on having huge tits or a Kim kardashian ass, while I would think hobbyists want services like that on the menu for such donations.  
   
 

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but SERVICE is the name of the game. I've been with less attractive (being nice) that have rocked my world and gorgeous women  (Mt ex) that were cold fish. You guess what I'd pick if they were the last two women in the world.

I think you're being a bit 2cute with your posts lately. 🙄

 

Posted By: sasha2cute
When you are looking for the perfect girl.  Do you match the donation with the type of services offered? Or do you match the donation with the looks?  
   
 I know probably most of you will say it's a combination of looks and services. I would say that while most people strive to find that perfect balance, sometimes I see providers advertising at 1000$ for 60 minutes, yet services like greek, or kissing are off the table. Seems like most providers out a price tag based on having huge tits or a Kim kardashian ass, while I would think hobbyists want services like that on the menu for such donations.  
   
 

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...so my selection then becomes based on services offered, and above all her genuine bisexuality.  

I don't begrudge a provider asking for $1K an hour if she wants to. There are several very female-friendly providers that I'd love to see but their price is steep. Maybe one day.

 

 
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NumNumMan558 reads

First filter .... Is she hot?

Second filter ... Does she have the menu I want?

Last filter ... Is she has my menu of services, how much money do her looks justify?

I know this is not what some providers want to hear. Looks peak my interest and cause me to examine the reviews. If the reviews have all the menu items I seek, I will then see if her looks justify the price.  At stage 3, it is all about the looks for me and that determines the price I will pay.  

I have learned not to waste my money if the menu sucks. I can go to a high end strip club to look at a super model, without service, much cheaper. But, you can have the best menu on the planet and 10s for performance, but I will pay a premium for what I cannot get in civilian life... a super model.  

When I first started is was looks. Then it became service. Now, with some more income and experience, I require both.

GaGambler460 reads

but then I actually read your post and found absolutely NOTHING to disagree with.

Can I ask a favor please? DumDumMan is simply too easy to pass up, could you please post something stupid so I will feel justified when making fun of you. There was simply nothing "Dum" at all about your post, but I am kind of a prick and sometimes I simply can't help myself. lol

BTW, Good post.

NumNumMan286 reads

The more you pay the better the service. Thus, I always offer a provider twice what she asks.  
 

Posted By: GaGambler
but then I actually read your post and found absolutely NOTHING to disagree with.  
   
 Can I ask a favor please? DumDumMan is simply too easy to pass up, could you please post something stupid so I will feel justified when making fun of you. There was simply nothing "Dum" at all about your post, but I am kind of a prick and sometimes I simply can't help myself. lol  
   
 BTW, Good post.

I look for value at a reasonable price with an athletic natural body most of the time who has above average scores. Don't always go for that as this hobby has taught me many different things about what I like. I can afford anyone but refuse to pay big money on a women who isn't going to offer x or y service at a grand an hour. A women who charges a grand an hour and doesn't kiss or do anal isn't worth a grand but that's my opinion yet someone who does everything who charges 300 might be worth 600 which is the type of provider I look for .  

Posted By: sasha2cute
When you are looking for the perfect girl.  Do you match the donation with the type of services offered? Or do you match the donations on with the looks?  
   
 I know probably most of you will say it's a combination of looks and services. I would say that while most people strive to find that perfect balance, sometimes I see providers advertising at 1000$ for 60 minutes, yet services like greek, or kissing are off the table. Seems like most providers out a price tag based on having huge tits or a Kim kardashian ass, while I would think hobbyists want services like that on the menu for such donations.  
   
 

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...I have a few services I require. Without those I'm not seeing her no matter what. There must be kissing. LFK minimum. There must be bbbj. There must be intercourse, covered. Like mrfisher said I want good looks but quality of service is more important than looks.

w/o divulging details, a woman who charged sky high rates saw me at a reduced rate once... and she wasnt' even worth the reduced rate!  she was not bad, but nothing special, nothing i couldn't get for half the price of the reduced rate i paid.

saw a couple other higher priced women, always thinking that since the price was high the service would be high.  in most cases the service, including looks, were average (and one case the service was down right poor).  i will give them credit, all the services you have mentioned were on the table, so no problem there (plus i am not into anal so that's never a question or a problem).

there is one lady i have seen recently, touring from new york, who had a slightly above market rate.  she was awesome and among the top 5 girls i ever was with.  she recently sent out an email stating that she raised her rates and was no longer grandfathering clients, everyone must pay new rates.  i broke my long-standing rule of walking away from non-grandfathered rates, and will see her again at the new rate.  because she is just that damn awesome, in the top 10 of nyc.  plus she's great people as well.

so it's a case by case basis, however in my experience higher rates usually only reflect the high esteem the girl holds herself in, and not any increase in service or attitude.

ECON 101 was many moons ago so I lifted this off the web. Man, if I was in college now with the internet and Google ... I'd have a 4.0

The law of diminishing returns states that after a certain point (called the point of diminishing returns), additional input to a system of production will produce less and less output. This law has been around for centuries. It is widely considered to be one of the fundamental laws of economics.

from: http://www.ehow.com/list_6688845_law-diminishing-returns.html


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DEATH-METAL-CHICK398 reads

something to think about if she is not giving it her all with you. She may have given her all to the full paying customers throughout the rest of the day though. Who asked for the discount or did she offer it? Who mentioned rates too high first?

Doesn't seem to make any sense to me to take someone's money then deliver sub par service.

Have you done so

Happens all the time.  I know for a fact that many places will give Groupon or LivingSocial customers lower quality service than full paying customers.  Defeats the purpose of offering those in the first place (drumming up new business), but not every service provider is professional.

you DON'T get to provide a subpar performance UNLESS you've explained that he's getting a limited menu with you choosinguys what he gets and he accepts it and understands he ain't getting the full Monty ... you sound a little vindictive...  

Are you saying because you accept less you get to decide how much you offer without letting the client know? I'll be fair and let you answer this. So how did it play out, if you don't mind

i never ask for a discount, she offered it up front.  if i think a rate is too high for me, i don't even bother to approach a woman.  haggling is unseemly, and ungentlemanly.

and beyond her performance, her looks imo were seriously below what her price would indicate.

for reasons i can't discuss publicly on ter i know she wasn't giving a sub-par performance due to the price adjustment.

also, as i stated, there were other "elite" priced ladies that were equally disappointing.

just my subjective opinion.

Peter,
     Your a better man than me. I walked away from someone I really liked because of that same line. I am not grandfathering anyone anymore. Told her best of luck and to keep my number I was fine never seeing her again a few weeks later I got an email that she would love me to come back at the old rate and sent the same email to a few other people. Sometimes you have to play hardball. If enough people say no to that behavior prices won't hit 1000 for less than stellar providers. Who your talking about is a great provider. She might be the next provider I see. Everyone is replaceable in this business that's how I think.

Enjoy your day.  
Zak

 

Posted By: BigPeterJohnson
w/o divulging details, a woman who charged sky high rates saw me at a reduced rate once... and she wasnt' even worth the reduced rate!  she was not bad, but nothing special, nothing i couldn't get for half the price of the reduced rate i paid.  
   
 saw a couple other higher priced women, always thinking that since the price was high the service would be high.  in most cases the service, including looks, were average (and one case the service was down right poor).  i will give them credit, all the services you have mentioned were on the table, so no problem there (plus i am not into anal so that's never a question or a problem).  
   
 there is one lady i have seen recently, touring from new york, who had a slightly above market rate.  she was awesome and among the top 5 girls i ever was with.  she recently sent out an email stating that she raised her rates and was no longer grandfathering clients, everyone must pay new rates.  i broke my long-standing rule of walking away from non-grandfathered rates, and will see her again at the new rate.  because she is just that damn awesome, in the top 10 of nyc.  plus she's great people as well.  
   
 so it's a case by case basis, however in my experience higher rates usually only reflect the high esteem the girl holds herself in, and not any increase in service or attitude.

you are right, everyone is replacable in a way.  however everyone is unique as well.  this girl and i click really well, her skills are amazing, and in fact above the average skills i find in my travels.  she tours my city about 4 times a year, so i decided instead of seeing her all 4 times i'll cut back to twice a year at the higher rate.

and who knows, i may eventually grow tired of her, and she of me, and her performance may go down, and i stop seeing her.

but i know what you mean about walking away from non-grandfathered rate increases.  that was (is) my philosophy, until i met this girl.

and you only live once.

I definitely prefer performance over looks!

Earlier last summer I saw a provider who was tall, slender, fantastic body and just overall attractive but her services did  
NOT match donation.  Her rules were everything covered, no kissing, and no touching inside

But they are not of equal of importance.

First is not service nor looks, it is professionalism. I don't have time enough to waist and I demand all those I pay respect my time and effort. I also expect discretion as in what id found out in a session stays there as long as everyone is safe and respectful at least. This is more important then looks, menu, price, skill, or personality.  And ladies it is a two way street with me. I will not waste your time nor share anything you wish not shared. At least if your respectful and safe. I will report ripoffs and the like.

Second thing is personality. It is vital to me. I want someone I can talk to and enjoy my time with not just bed. Sometimes I just don't work and sex is not going to happen. So in order to have fun if the fun I came for is off the table I need to like the lady. It is only second to professionalism in my book of importance.  

Third is looks. If I don't find you at least somewhat attractive, I likely will never look to book. I am not necessarily looking for tens but at least a seven. I am attracted to all kinds of woman. women my senor, women 20 years my junior. thin women to heavy set. But I have to be attracted to them. I don't seem to have a type.  

Last thing I look for is skill. not all roles in the hay are equal. I mean who like a damn toothy BJ? Massage skills are important.  I can be hard to get off and a woman with good skills can get it done a woman who is just eye candy, not so much.

Menu, and price are minor. $100 to $2000 is much the same to me, though I do have the best luck in the $200 to $500 range.  I love BDSM sessions as much as GFE. I don't do anal. You can't pay me enough. Outside of stuffing the envelope I don't really care about the price. I have seen $100 ladies, and I have imported ladies that cost me thousands. My expectations are the same regardless.

I think most guys and ladies have a general idea of what most would accept as "decent" look but after that point, it becomes very subjective based on individual's taste.  I don't pay because someone supposedly looks like "Miss America" or "Miss Universe".  Hell, I don't even typically care to see ladies that would be in that age range. I pay for great service, excellent attitude, and super good hygiene.  That's the value proposition for me.  Since we are on this subject, I think the numeric rating system is the biggest bunch of BS ever created. Just my opinion.  As an example what the hell does "Once in a Life Time" mean?  My once in a life time experience as for as appearance and performance is probably very different from most unless we've done some type of calibration on our experiences, likes, and dislikes.  I'm typically just as suspicious of someone with all perfect scores and I am with someone with low scores.  Thank God for back channel.

Senator.Blutarsky313 reads

...I'm looking for someone who attracts me and I think that we'll enjoy each other BCD.  

Over the years, I've kind of learned how to do this without a lot of fuss.

First, I scan P411 for women who are visually attractive to me. I look at their profile and immediately know if they are in my budget and fit certain other things that I've learned indicate a good match.  

Then I'll check their profile on TER, skimming a couple of reviews. I also quickly skim their website. Then send an appointment request or move on to the next gal on P411.  

I've also developed friendships with several ladies and try to see them whenever either they are in town or I'm in their city.  

This is just what works for me.

I'm not talking safety risk, but if I'm paying for great looks (which is big for me) am I sure her pics are accurate. Despite being disappointed a few times, I've never had the nerve to just walk away from a provider who's looks didn't live up to my expectation.

I might risk 300-400 on a provider with only a few reviews and blurred/airbrushed pics, but might go twice that if her pics were not blurred and included unretouched selfies.

Bottom line, looks are the bait for me. Services offered (including performance reviews to an extent) sets the hook, and my judgement of the reliability of those two items determines how much effort and $$$$ I'm willing to invest.  

Back to my safety comment, assuming I am confident she's not LE or a ROB, I'll also pay more for a nicer incall whether it's a nice private residence or 4-5 star hotel. Cheap hotels are a deal killer. I might even spring for an extra donation for decent hotel rather than meeting at her home/apartment in a not-so-nice neighborhood, or even offer more to an outcall-only girl if she can make the hotel arrangements.

I would prefer balance.  I personally would not pay $1,000 for 60 minutes without sensual acts such as kissing with tongue, etc.  Even if porn stars such as Crystal Wilder or Christy Canyon were available.

of looks, services provided and price. What makes me repeat regularly are personality and performance. Drop the Mic.

I prefer to stay in house, with my Circle of Friends.  We stay in contact, and know when and where to meet if things are right.  As for adventuring outside the box, I have found that M&G's work best in meeting new ladies to see.  But that's just what worked for me for the past decade.  The few times I've had to play conventionally...hits at almost 1.000.   It isn't that hard...listen to what the ladies tell you regarding screening, and cooperate with them.

down and spread your legs because they have an enormous new strap on they want to try out do you cooperate with them? Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes  
That is unless I pissed  her off first.
Then I check the size of the strap on

Inquiring minds wish to know what you meant.  Note: spelling errors indicate stupidity, and that turns most ladies off.  Conclusion: you are stupid.  

As for your commentary, I will regard this as an unjustified attack. Despite that, good luck to you!   You're going to need it.

GaGambler233 reads

You've been here for many years and it's a pretty well known fact that you are a leading candidate for BSU.

I doubt seriously that BJN needs the least bit of extra luck, I can't recall him ever whining about having a hard time finding hookers willing to take his money.

Note: being pedantic indicates you are a putz and that turns most people off.  Conclusion: You are a pedantic putz.

Thanks for your unsolicited comments.  They mean about as much as a $3 bill.  

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Not just the services listed, but will she provide that experience where the two (or three) of us get totally lost in each other for the two or more hours, where nothing else in the world matters. Quiet music in the background, soft lighting, no phones, nothing else but me and her. Total focus on each other and the pleasures that two (or three) people can explore together.  I don't always find it, but when I do, it is wonderful. For both of us.

Price, services and looks. I will take less services if the woman is gorgeous or is of a certain ethnic background, and charging a fair price. All of the women I have been with in the hobby have been 8+ in looks. Some offered more services than I could imagine, which meant they offered the services I wanted with a little more, while others offered just a GFE with French Kissing and BBBJ.

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