you can see how opinion on this subject has evolved, Ten years ago people wanted to run me off the board for daring to skip the all important "unsealed envelope" I was called an idiot, misogynistic, disrespectful and wildly irresponsible. A decade later it appears that most of the board has finally come around to my way of thinking.
...I get a lot of junk mail soliciting charitable donations. If you do too, you can use the return envelopes for the provider's donation and if you're busted, you can say say: "But Officer, I was just making a donation to her favorite charity" - the American Cancer Society/ASPCA/Environmental Defense Fund (or in JackDunphy's case, he'd use an envelope from the NRA).
It won't help you any more than a plain white envelope if you're busted, but if you think it will, so much the better.
... address it to her (by her stage name) at the hotel where you're meeting her – ZIP code and all. When you place the envelope, advise her not to open it until you're ready to leave. If you're busted during the main event, there's no ready proof that you're paying for anything. After all, no one but the addressee can legally open that envelope, can they?
Legal beagles on here will probably tear my argument to shreds, but let's see how far I can get with the rest of you. 
..."hooker" name, it's addressed to a third party not involved in the sexual act. If the cops want to open the letter, they'd probably have to get a warrant. That wouldn't be a sure thing - they can't prove whose envelope it is; maybe it was the woman's money to begin with. And it might be too much trouble to go to try and get a warrant just to bust one provider and her trick.
Another reason to STFU - I was wrong in the OP for the John to tell the cop he was donating to her favorite charity. Just STFU!! Let the cops try to prove whose money it was.
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Couldn't you take out the envelope, place it down and say "Thanks for the tickets(or some other tangible good), I enjoyed it"
I go to a lot of sporting events so I could just as easily be paying for baseball tickets as I could for companionship.
That is, that having the money in an envelope will somehow give them some sort of defense?
I ask that my clients have it in an envelope, but not for that reason..... and it honestly hadn't occurred to me till I'd seen others complaining about the envelope here on TER.
Just curious if anyone will own up to thinking that the envelope will somehow protect them........ or maybe more people just like the envelope for their own reasons.
you can see how opinion on this subject has evolved, Ten years ago people wanted to run me off the board for daring to skip the all important "unsealed envelope" I was called an idiot, misogynistic, disrespectful and wildly irresponsible. A decade later it appears that most of the board has finally come around to my way of thinking.
...THE ARCHIVIST!!
To respond to somebody's opinion WITHOUT uncalled and unprovoked classless attack and insult?
Did she steal your lunch money? piss on your cereal? poop on your Viagra pills?
You do know that Debbie and I are friends, don't you?
Are you trying for SPOTY? The competition is fierce, but I will allow this is one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen. Perhaps you have a future in this type of competition? Please say something else REALLY REALLY fucking stupid for us so we can see if you deserve to up there with the front runners like FatVern.
Don't be nervous, I know you have it in you, just say the first thing that comes to your little pea brain and I am sure you'll knock it out of the park.
Anyone who has followed this posters "thoughts" on this board knows he's a complete moron who embarrasses himself every time he posts.
More like Buttfire.
First time I know of a Cro-Magnon fucktard who can speaks from both holes of his body.
Did you drool on the keyboard from trying to concentrate so hard?
Keep working on your SPOTY run.
...says on her website that she wants it that way. Some also do it because it seems "classy" and makes them feel like they're not paying for sex if no one actually sees the Benjies.
I appreciate the envelope. It's not about actual security from illegality. It's all about preserving the fantasy.
In other words, neither of us harbors any illusions as to why I get to fuck her. That doesn't mean there's any reason to point it out.
For example: I want to hear her say something like "ooh yeah I want your dick in me baby." I would not want to hear her say, "ooh yeah I'll tolerate your dick in me because I want the cash."
That would be the verbal equivalent of eschewing the envelope
Yes, I ask that my gentlemen have it in an envelope. Most do this, but not all. Actually, most of my longtime friends do not and I've never asked that they start.
The main reason I like the envelope is simply because it's neat & organized and the client will have pre-counted it. I really don't like it when guys pull out a wad and begin counting it out in front of me so having it already in the envelope eliminates that. ;-
I usually include a blank Greeting Card.
Class or crass; it's a low-cost style preference. And totally unnecessary as you point out.
IMHE, the only ones to complain about it or mock it are other guys. I'd rather stand out than follow the crowd.
Some years ago, I was scheduled to meet a gal while vacationing in San Francisco.
I drew the cash out of an ATM, and intended to grab an envelope from the hotel room. This hotel was kind of sucky, and didn't have any stationary or envelopes. However, I do recall that there was a synagogue nearby, and remembering my 12 years of religious school training, knew that there would be donation envelopes in the lobby, which there were.
I think the provider was a bit perplexed by it, but it worked out fine
...a synagogue, why don't you go into a Catholic church and take a votive candle? Put a drop of vanilla in it and voila, you'll have a scented candle!
it pays for parking. LOL.
Oh, never mind, that's some other guy who seems to have disappeared.
Why should this be an issue to start with? Does it kill anyone to honor a provider's wish if it costs close to nothing and takes so little effort? If that's all it takes to build good will I couldn't care less if her request makes any sense or not nor for whatever reason.
You actually wrote a post I agree with. Satan must be practicing his slap shot in Hell.
It is somewhat classy to just have the guy leave it there and not talk about it or count money in front of you.
Use a money order made out to CASH. If anyone asks, it’s a donation to the Charitable Association for the Severely Handicapped.
But for no ther reason that it is part of my routine. I count the bennies as I place them in it, I recount them before I leave for the destination or just prior to my final shower before her arrival and then one more time when I arrive before going up or just before she is to arrive. This is probably OCD but it's my system and it works for me, my donation has never been short, not once.
Do I think having the donation in an envelope will foil LE? No, absolutely not.
This is really just as simple as calling this the hobby, it's personal preference, and I have way too many other things to be concerned about than how I am perceived for either
It won't help you any more than a plain white envelope if you're busted, but if you think it will, so much the better.
"Please find enclosed my payment in the amount of Four Hundred Dollars ($400) for fashion consulting services on (today's date). I would like to schedule a second appointment at your convenience.
(signed)
A Grateful but Fashion-Challenged Client
All "standard" mailing envelope sizes that fit US bills are wastefully bulky.
So I use church collection envelopes that are sized just right.
Some of them have printed slogans that are pretty funny in context, but they are available plain also.
A box of 100 costs around $5 from a church-supply website.
This way I can carry the donation in a shirt pocket without being obtrusive on my walk to her door, and once inside it's handy to place wherever she wants it without fumbling.
So far no provider has remarked on the envelope printing: "Love Offering" with a big red heart.
I regard the "But Officer..." aspect as useless, but this fits in