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as well as what actually occurs on a date.

Remember, not all reviewers are interested in Greek, and some reviewers request a CBJ! That is not the provider's fault or problem.  

So, a provider can get up to a 7 purely for performance on a date, and then gets extra points if she OFFERS bbbj, Greek, etc...

So a fantastic performance from a gal who offers things I don't want in a date can still get a 10.  

The system (probably by design) favors providers who OFFER more with higher scores

I have reviewed quite a few ladies and I try to remain as fair as possible and stick to the true meanings of the ratings.  As I have said before, I read a lot of reviews when I am searching for a provider.  We all have our skepticisms about certain providers with all 10s but in reading reviews lately I have seen what IMO scores that do not rate 10s in the performance department.  

I understand that a 10 can be a matter of one mans opinion, but starting out and getting more familiar with the actual value of a 10 score, I have always equated it BBBJCIM or Greek included etc.  For instance I visited a provider who models but only performs CBJs and hers performance scores don't rate higher than a 7.  As I do my research on said providers, when I run across a 10 in performance I am always interested in reading those as they are the best case scenarios of what may occur within the session.  Recently I have read a few 10s and the reviewer has stated that said provider performed a CBJ, nothing extra like Greek, Rimming, or squirting during that session.  I have wrote reviews before and had them kicked back because I initially rated the provider higher than TER would suggest in the performance category.  

So my question is, why are there so many perfect 10 reviews of providers who perform the bare minimum and why are those reviews allowed if one can clearly read the review and see that nothing extraordinary was performed during the session.

Not only is the basis of it foggy since it isn't the quality of the performance but rather the content of the menu that counts, but even then, as you point out, the numbers are enforced with what I'll politely call laxity.

On the appearance front, the situation is even murkier.

Just read the reviews and use that as your guide

as well as what actually occurs on a date.

Remember, not all reviewers are interested in Greek, and some reviewers request a CBJ! That is not the provider's fault or problem.  

So, a provider can get up to a 7 purely for performance on a date, and then gets extra points if she OFFERS bbbj, Greek, etc...

So a fantastic performance from a gal who offers things I don't want in a date can still get a 10.  

The system (probably by design) favors providers who OFFER more with higher scores

IMHO because, especially with $$$$$ providers, there is a natural tendency towards post purchase rationalization... combine that with fact that some highly reviewed ladies ask for 10's and the fact that we all want to be nice guys... most likely explanations.  I personally try to be positive wherever possible but stay honest.  After all, this is a service industry and hopefully any feedback will be taken positively.  I always read at least handful of recent reviews and compare scores to the details, keeping an eye on particularly harsh or easy graders as likely outliers. My two cents.

I understand that $$$$$ is in correlation with 10s etc, and that some women will ask for 10s, and that it often goes by what said provider offers on her menu.  But on a case by case basis, even if the provider offers something that is not of interest to that particular client, shouldn't each individual review be taken at its value.  For example X provider offers watersports, Greek, CIM, etc, But the review reads that she did not perform those services, why are those reviews still allowed as 10s? I also understand that some clients prefer CBJ.  I'm starting to think that 10s come from the history of that provider and not the actually service i.e. Provider X started out years ago offering BBBJ but recently within the last 5 reviews only performs CBJ during sessions.

As stated before, I have had some reviews kicked back via admin because I scored the provider higher than the rating criteria, but the session/provider was awesome.  

Thanks for the input guys.

Well, maybe for looks, but not the services. I liked what another guy said - it is about post rationalization. And yes, if they ask.. what is this supposed to do with almost honest review? Provider asks you to trigger the rating system and you are like "oh yeah honey, of course"? That's very interesting. Is that sort of justification for the price you pay and sharing it with your buddy? Xo

JakeFromStateFarm575 reads

There is corruption on both sides of this game.  10s are prized by girls who want to rise on the list so guys use them as bait to get more out of a session.  Girls threaten anything less than a 10 with a BL.  There's also a natural tendency of suck-ups to give them out like candy, just to be a nice guy.  The result is the numerical rankings are worse than useless. But TER has too much invested in this system to change it.  Luckily, there are ways to work around this.

numbers, you need to look at a guy's other reviews as well.  If he gave a girl a 7, but the highest he ever gave is an 8, then its the same as a 9 from a guy who has given a 10.  Just use a little common sense, or else forget the numbers and just read the narrative.  Its not rocket surgery.

GaGambler407 reads

It's "brain science" and I pay little attention to the numerical scores, but when I do, that is how I "handicap" the otherwise worthless scores.

they really ought to change the expression to refer to what is clearly the most complicated of the three

...I'll post a link for you so you can read it yourself but there is a statement which says the provider qualifies for a score higher than 7 based on what she offers not on what is actually "performed" during the session being reviewed.

The statement I'm referring to is in the third paragraph below the listed ratings and their descriptions. Also note there are five things that qualify the provider for a score higher than 7. Cim and rimming are not one of the five.

The five are:
1. kiss with tongue
2. bare blow job
3. really bi
4. more than one guy (you have to read way down to the bottom of the FAQ's to find that one)
5. anal intercourse

Check out the discussion on the Newbie Board on this subject.

bad but any rating system here will be bad so it's something of a case of the worst rating system except the alternatives in many ways.

I find the best way to use them is look a the reviewers history and if they've seen providers I have I then have something of a gauge to go by.

Skyfyre721 reads

Like some posts already pointed out: don't get hung up on it instead read the detailed action description.

Rating really only reflects what the raters think regardless of whether they remotely agree with your own assessment.

In the Olympics the judges who score the performance of athletes at least had to be highly qualified and vetted. Here anybody off the street regardless of intelligence or experience or the foggiest of clue can write a review and rate.

JakeFromStateFarm441 reads

They are inaccurate and need to be taken with a pound of salt, but there are ways to "read the tea leaves" and make them more useful.  You also ignore the weaknesses of the "Juicy Details," which are often a total fraud.  So, again, you need to make friends with reliable reviewers and confirm things back channel.  One way you are sure to be wrong is to make blanket statements.

Based on my experience the only fraud in the "juicy details" are guys claiming to get three shots in one hour at the age of 50. The juicy details are the only reason for wasting 250 a year for a membership

If 250 a year means anything to you, you're in the wrong hobby. You have to write two reviews a month to get it free. I guess you can "share" an account with others and get it cheaper.

JakeFromStateFarm377 reads

it's so easy to earn VIP days even without writing reviews, and with so little effort, why pay TER if you don't have to?

Johnny3Balls380 reads

In my reviews I try to be consistent for performance. A bbbj is good but it won't score for me if its mechanical or she spends most of the time giving me a HJ.  On the other hand, I've had amazing cbj that were done with lust and a love for sucking dick. Performance for me is overall and review to review I can go back and remember specifically the 8&9's for what stood out and on the other spectrum I can remember the 6 and below for what was bad. The 7's tend to get forgotten. Remember it's all subjective and try to look at the reviewer's history.  

The only 10/10 I have ever experienced is my ATF who is under the radar and has never been reviewed. Looking at my history you would think I never rate high but it's just that my high reviews can't be posted here.

can never have a "WOW" experience with her?

Really, what you are saying is you deliver your own power to enjoy yourself at the capacity of a "10" into the hands of others' ability to enjoy themselves, and also give it away to a list of acronyms. Those other people haven't given an ounce of their ability to enjoy themselves to your personal standards.

In clearer terms - I can walk down a sidewalk and feel my day performed at a "10" in how much I enjoyed myself. The acronyms were - 80 degree weather, sun, a little breeze, the flowers, and the duck couple walking and chatting together. You most likely felt that day gave you a "5", and you also asked around to other visitors of the park and even called your buddies to see if you should enjoy the ducks too, and what score you should enjoy them at.

All that time, I'm having a ball, and you - the dude 20 feet behind me are missing it all, and giving your power to enjoy the day to others.

My question is, am I a bad person if I enjoy 80 degree weather, and love animals - but because you like 72, rainy and no ducks - should I just go home and say "well, he said because I don't like anal, I can't have an amazing time having sex."

You do know that there are people who stimulate the mind and put you at ease, and enjoy the sex who don't do anal, right? Women whom men can "lose themselves" in? Then there are providers who do anal and offer everything you ask for - who could do that all too - OR they may make you feel like a total, utter, J-O-H-N.

Totally agree, Courtney Ova.

I never do anal, don't enjoy rimming, and I am not a big fun of CIM,  But that doesn't mean I will not have a great time with ladies I enjoyed playing with.   As long as I felt her performance was top-notch and I truly enjoyed it, I won't hesitate to give her 10 in performance regardless of CIM, anal, or really Bi was on the list, because those are things that I couldn't care less.    

Posted By: Courtney.Ova
can never have a "WOW" experience with her?  
   
 Really, what you are saying is you deliver your own power to enjoy yourself at the capacity of a "10" into the hands of others' ability to enjoy themselves, and also give it away to a list of acronyms. Those other people haven't given an ounce of their ability to enjoy themselves to your personal standards.  
   
 In clearer terms - I can walk down a sidewalk and feel my day performed at a "10" in how much I enjoyed myself. The acronyms were - 80 degree weather, sun, a little breeze, the flowers, and the duck couple walking and chatting together. You most likely felt that day gave you a "5", and you also asked around to other visitors of the park and even called your buddies to see if you should enjoy the ducks too, and what score you should enjoy them at.  
   
 All that time, I'm having a ball, and you - the dude 20 feet behind me are missing it all, and giving your power to enjoy the day to others.  
   
 My question is, am I a bad person if I enjoy 80 degree weather, and love animals - but because you like 72, rainy and no ducks - should I just go home and say "well, he said because I don't like anal, I can't have an amazing time having sex."  
   
 You do know that there are people who stimulate the mind and put you at ease, and enjoy the sex who don't do anal, right? Women whom men can "lose themselves" in? Then there are providers who do anal and offer everything you ask for - who could do that all too - OR they may make you feel like a total, utter, J-O-H-N.

For the sake of argument, let's say I am a car salesman and I am offering a luxury vehicle with all the bells and whistles.  A BMW with Power lock windows, Navigation, Heated Seats, Park assist etc. for $90,000.  I also have another vehicle that is the same make and model but a different color and is bare.  So your saying I should be able to sell both those cars at the same price even though Car A is fully loaded but Car B has none of those features???

VOO-doo357 reads

that anal, rimming, doubles, etc. should be equated with high-end features on a car.... features that some might not require, but are generally agreed to be superior or inherently desirable. Some men might actually prefer a lady who does NOT offer anal/rimming/doubles/etc as he might actually be turned off by said activities...

IMO those services are a matter of taste, more analogous to color, or perhaps automatic vs. manual trans. Benefits to each, but neither is necessarily better... just different, with greater/lesser advantages according to each user's unique preferences.

With many types of products, the value is not necessarily determined by the NUMBER of available services... as by the quality of the services offered. Some women who do offer anal/rimming/PSE might not offer other things (no-rush session, for instance)

I don't need a high powered beemer or a jet-fast mercedes, because I drive like an old lady. lol!

I do like luxury and I don't like to feel the bumps on the road. I'll pick the bare lexus (an expensive, glorified camry,) over the loaded sports car any day of the week. :)


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VOO-doo367 reads

Telling you the black car is more expensive than the white.  

I care more about the overall quality than some trimmings I might or might not ever use.

I'd happily pay more for a low-end Mercedes w/no heated seats and no iPhone jack, than a Kia with a jacked-out radio, fancy tire rims, and all the bells and whistles a car architect can conjure...

That's why I'm independent. I don't have a pimp or agency owner who sells me. I would depreciate quickly if I were seeing people I didn't pick myself - at least for the way I know I perform best.

Not to mention, we are talking about scores and ratings anyway. Not price.  

For the sake of argument on scores, however - the bells and whistles. It's a shame that some can compare a woman who offers an experience (herself) as bare when not offering an opening in the back end, and licks men's assholes. One "bell and whistle" for some men is that some women don't do anal or rimming, because they have to kiss her next.

What about the bells and whistles of brains - belly laughs - mesmerization and mystery - true desire - confidence - safe and healthy atmosphere - cheese and booze - understanding - luxurious accommodations - positive attitude - smiles - looks in the eyes... the ability to eat her food with you, drink her drink with you. Touch you in a way that electrifies you. Breathe in a way that sends chills down your spine. REAL orgasms. Guidance and communication in your performance... and the list goes on.

There are things you can't "see" but you can "feel". Now, everything is an acquired taste. But you have to train your palate to enjoy those things, or even recognize them. There are times you leave and go, "What the fuck just happened, and why do I feel so mesmerized?" That just happened to me today with a lovely Chicago lady.

And yes, if you're a good salesman you could sell the two vehicles at the same rate. Lol

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JakeFromStateFarm444 reads

They don't determine what you're worth but they do determine if you're worth it.  :)

If you want it, get it - if you don't - then don't buy it. It's not that hard lol!

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
They don't determine what you're worth but they do determine if you're worth it.  :)

GaGambler464 reads

BTW I am not looking for a good salesman/woman, I just want to get fucked and sucked silly for an hour or so. I am really not looking for "time and companionship" and I could always buy a dog if I wanted total loyalty just for providing a bit of food and shelter.

Actually, you may get ladies for free if you buy a dog.

;)

Posted By: GaGambler
BTW I am not looking for a good salesman/woman, I just want to get fucked and sucked silly for an hour or so. I am really not looking for "time and companionship" and I could always buy a dog if I wanted total loyalty just for providing a bit of food and shelter.

When I am researching a provider, I do look at the rating, and also read the reviews. But I go beyond that and begin to read other reviews of said reviewers. This gives me a keen sense of how that reviewer perceives a "good" Or "bad" session to be. Gleaning how a reviewer thinks and what he may or may not like in a session helps me to get a clearer picture of why he reviewed the girl I'm looking at the way he did.  

Still, I will admit that the TER rating system is not without its flaws too. For example I have had some great sessions with a couple of providers but TER shot down my performance rating number because we didn't engage in certain things that they said were "required" in order to give a higher number. To make up for that, I had to edit those reviews (without embellishing) to show how much I enjoyed the session.  That way others who read my review would hopefully understand that while we may not have engaged in every possible activity sexually speaking (and that's usually on me, not the girl, I'm the conservative one), the provider was awesome, is genuine, and so forth.

Thats only bc I play safe (Cbj) but my looks have been rated 9's so I got averaged out to be an 8 lol I'm fine with that

Soooo in comparison, a provider such as Layonaisthe1 will get a review written on her and TER admin will look at it and because she does not offer BBBJ, Greek, CIM etc, her review performance score can not exceed a 7.  Now back to Provider X, because she started out performing BBBJ, Greek, CIM, but her last year or 5 to 10 reviews have indicated that she no longer provides these services, she will still have the ability to receive 10s without any kickback from admin. So if I saw Layonaisthe1 and Provider X, and their service was the same, why should my rating of Layonaisthe1 be capped at 7 because of what is offered and not the actual connectivity and vibe of the session????

The system is not perfect but let's get real. BBBJ-CIM is an objective measurement. Either she does it or she does not. Things like "connectivity" and "vibe" are totally subjective.

Restricted sex services should NOT merit the same grades as a girl serving up BBBJ-CIM.

Just to give you an example, I have had sessions in which ladies asked for anal, multiple digit insertion in that area and ladies who rimmed me when I was not even expecting it.   Perhaps they are doing it to elevate their score, perhaps not, I am not a mind reader.    However, these are things that I will definitely not discuss if I have not seen it in other reviews of the lady and if I have not seen it on her menu of offerings.  If it is something the lady may not regularly do, I don't want to put her in an uncomfortable situation with other guys and I also do not want to create an expectation on the part of other guys.     Truthfully, even if those types of things are on the menu, I would not be personally inclined to blabber on about every detail of my experience with a lady.

The point is that at the end of the day, none of us really knows why a lady got a 10, and ultimately, who cares anyway?    My 10 maybe your 7 and vice-versa.

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