I think you are in the right here. Very unprofessional of her. And to put it in another perspective, if she were on the way to meet a "regular" date for dinner, the late person should let their date know. It's business AND general courtesy.
I cancelled and she jumped on me for being sketchy and being unwilling to see her later. To be honest I don't care about the time change what bothers me is I had to contact her to find out she was late. I can't do this to anyone in my business; I have even lost a pretty large deal over running 30 minutes late and that was after telling the client ahead of time. Do you think I am being unreasonable?
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Recently I had an appointment set up for an outcall to my hotel room. The provider was 20 minutes late and hadn't contacted me so I sent a message saying it s probably best to cancel. She replies back within a minute that she was waiting for someone to pick up her child and could she be there an hr late.
I cancelled and she jumped on me for being sketchy and being unwilling to see her later. To be honest I don't care about the time change what bothers me is I had to contact her to find out she was late. I can't do this to anyone in my business; I have even lost a pretty large deal over running 30 minutes late and that was after telling the client ahead of time. Do you think I am being unreasonable?
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but you should immediately call her and offer her a 30% tip in advance.
You sir are a cad and should buy her kid a present to boot and probably the baby daddy a present just to cover all your bases, Shame, shame, shame on you. lol
I have discovered that the key to sarcasm written on any TER board is to not even attempt to be subtle. Any sarcastic post written here with even the least bit of subtlety is almost certain to be taken literally by someone. Just look at our Khaki wearing friend's post a bit further down in this thread as proof of this.
comes to children, (child care, baby sitters, single moms...). Still, it was up to her to contact you and let you know she was going to be late. Plus what makes her think you would still be available an hour later? You may have had something else scheduled after. We all have lives.
She is the unreasonable one.
She is the unreasonable one.
Sometimes, I can handle a delay but other times I cannot. If it goes beyond a certain point, I simply say that the new (delayed) time is outside of my window of opportunity but maybe we can get together some other time. (Whether or not I try again partially depends on how good or bad the excuse is.)
I should add that a PRE-meeting warning is sometimes appropriate and makes me more likely to be flexible in the event of a delay. "I plan to come in on the Big Crowded Highway. If traffic is really bad, I'll text you." "I'll be taking the train from Suburb. The 12:07 should get me to you by 1:00; if I can't find parking at the station or miss the 12:07, the 12:27 should get me to you before 1:30." (Yeah, why not just leave 5 minutes early and make the train on time!?) It gives me an idea of what's happening or might happen and it gives me a chance to say, "I've got another commitment immediately after our meeting. If you can't make it on time, I'd better not schedule at all.
...between escorts and clients...
Should she have been proactive and called you to let you know she was running late? Absolutely, it would have been the professional thing to do, and would have gone a long way towards building understanding between the two of you...plus it would have been polite...
Could you have been more understanding of the difficulties confronting her in this situation? Yes, you could have...but it is also understandable that you would feel slighted...but your immediate leap to cancel rather than be flexible placed her in a position to feel like you were being unreasonable...
You both have some validity in your reactions and the whole situation could have been avoided had you both just taken a moment to consider things from the other's point of view...
Also I have to be up fairly early for work and I will be completely honest I don't mind saving the 600 plus. I can find others who will show up on time for a multi hr date, or at very least let me know they are running late before hand.
Unreasonable? Maybe but I feel like it's my prerogative to be if I want. Especially after being told some of the things I was.
you could have demanded a 50% cancellation fee!
With all respect, when a gal conducts business that way from the beginning, it is usually an indicator of how the rest of the appointment will go. That is at least what I have heard from other clients. Providers that take their job seriously do not ever have bad communication and you did the right thing.
It's your money so you get to make the rules. I hate chronic lateness and won't see providers who pull that crap so NO you're not unreasonable, or alone.
Unreasonable? Maybe but I feel like it's my prerogative to be if I want. Especially after being told some of the things I was.
next time just tell her to bring the kid. That's the POLITE thing to do.
If the majority of johns were single, unemployed men with absolutely nothing going on in their lives. But then, where would they get the money to pay for sex?
job, I wouldn't have to pay for sex.
One of my faults is that I can be impatient. Last year I cancelled out an appt because my 1:00 pm was moved to 1:30, I arrived at her incall at 130 and was told it would be 5-10 more minutes. Finally at 1:50 I bailed. Sent at angry text to the effect that my time is too valuable for this nonsense. Later I found out this lady is notorious for always being late, too the effect that she does not prepare herself, until the gentleman arrives......Never attempted to book with her again. I realize things happen, sometimes last minute out of our control. Some people are not wired to be courteous or prompt.....again it works on both sides of the transaction.
I cancelled and she jumped on me for being sketchy and being unwilling to see her later. To be honest I don't care about the time change what bothers me is I had to contact her to find out she was late. I can't do this to anyone in my business; I have even lost a pretty large deal over running 30 minutes late and that was after telling the client ahead of time. Do you think I am being unreasonable?
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No, in my opinion you are not acting reasonable. There should not be a double standard. The provider should have exercised being proactive and informing you of any delays. I can get upset when I find out that a provider is late when I initiate the contact to ascertain the situation. Whatever happened to taking a few seconds to type a text to state the status who. I am sick and tired because this has happened to me. Obviously not all providers are professionals. It is simple as that. I suggest writing a review so that others warned about this provider.
Got it.
i think you can write a review...but don't quote me. Maybe check with support first.
A situation happened about a year ago where I I never saw the provider but wanted to write a review. I was told to only fill out the "general info" part and put details there. I was also told NOT to enter anything into the details field.
D.
...TER's thing is (they have told me this in Contact Us communication) if you didn't actually see her you wouldn't be able to fill out the profile (I know unless it's a TOFTT the profile already exists, nevertheless that was their response) and obviously you don't have any details.
Well let me rephrase that statement. You are more than free to WRITE such a review but you will NEVER get such a review posted. TER is quite clear and quite consistent about this, you must have gotten your wires crossed somehow.
The only recourse the OP has is to post about this on his regional board and NAME NAMES, if he is going to be chickenshit like most guys are in such matters and make us PM him for the details, my advice is to not even waist his time or ours writing the post. The goal is to make bad behavior unprofitable, and the way you do that is by making sure the ladies, just like all business people, know that bad behavior will adversely impact their bottom line. Outing her bad behavior on a public board will have that effect as many guys will avoid booking with a known flake. "Whining" while leaving out her identity will have no effect on her pocket book and less effect on her behavior.
Xyz, GaG, and myself are probably more knowledgable about TER rules than you are, not only from longer experience being here, but probably all 3 of us have also heard it straight from the horse's mouth so to speak. I have spoken to Support. Xyz has mentioned he spoke to Support. GaG was a moderator for many years so he kind of had a direct line to Support for a while. Now you say you spoke to Support about a specific incident but yet I don't see that review in your profile.
TER's general rule is a meeting had to take place in order to write a review. Not necessarily a session, but you must meet the provider. (Hence a B&S review or a cash and dash review is allowed, but not a no show review.) There is a small exception and it might be a case by case basis. Apparently a review is allowed if it's an outright rob and money was paid, but the reviewer never met the lady (i.e. Gift card scams). This OP is nothing even close to that, so no review is possible.
Below is an example of a review with no meeting. Was that what happened to you? And if so, where is your review?
No one here is sympathetic to the plight of the single mother. We should cut her a little slack because she is trying to set a good example for her child that its better to have meaningful work than to be on the government dole. Children that grow up seeing their parents in entrepreneurial endeavors have a right to be proud and I hope the kid takes her to career day at his or her school.
Don't be in business if you can't run a business.
as funny when you have to say its supposed to be funny, but hey, it is what it is. I thought the last line about "career day" was the giveaway that I was pulling some legs here.
I agree...why is there different expectations amongst some readers between both parties. Communication between both parties is key. If a time is agreed upon I would not expect a provider to request I wait another hour. Everyone has a schedule and asking a client to deviate an hour is overboard and inconsiderate in my opinion. In this case, it appeared the client acted professional. The provider should be understanding. This has happened to me and I always reschedule at the earliest opportunity.
bang my head against the wall, and damage some brain cells, hopefully the ones that prompt me to write sarcastic posts that are too subtle for the masses. Oy Vey.
The provider was unreasonable for not letting you know beforehand that she was going to be a bit behind. In any situation where I might be running late, I try my best to let my clients know.
It can be as much as a loss for them and as for me as well. Especially if they've popped the little blue pill and are sitting there waiting patiently before the erection vanishes.
I cancelled and she jumped on me for being sketchy and being unwilling to see her later. To be honest I don't care about the time change what bothers me is I had to contact her to find out she was late. I can't do this to anyone in my business; I have even lost a pretty large deal over running 30 minutes late and that was after telling the client ahead of time. Do you think I am being unreasonable?
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stopped in the middle of a session to call her next client and say that she'll be late on account of having to wait for someone to take care of her kid?
GG is right
Some providers have to make arraignments for a baby sitter while they see a client. For me being an hour late isn't a big deal. Sometimes these ladies go out of their way to see a client. If you can't wait one hour to see a provider then it would be best to cancel. At least she let you know that she was running late.
But that is the problem, SHE did not let HIM know she was "going to be late." After being 20 minutes late HE contacted HER and then she apprised him of the situation.
Maybe she wasn't able to let him know she would be late. Things and situations happen. It's only 20 minutes. Sounds like the Client is a Clock Watcher.
When I see my ATF I always allow some time for her to get ready. She's always on time. But if she's a little late it's no big deal for me. I know she's worth the wait.
My backup ATF was running late to see me a few weeks ago. She called and texted me to let me know. She was only 15 minutes late. She was so apologetic for being late. She's such a sweetheart.
But regardless I booked the date while on a business trip. I wanted a good nights sleep and had to be up fairly early to prep for a meeting with a co worker. If it was just 15-20 minutes late that would have been fine, a heads up would have been nice. But to let me know she was going to be an hr late after I contacted her 20 min after the start time, it just wasn't worth it to me to try and follow through with the appointment. I have done enough of these to know that if a provider misses or runs late on the first appointment time there is a fair chance it will happen again with the new time as well.
So if my atf were late, which she never has been it would be different than an out of town appointment with someone I had never seen. If I was told at the original start time that she needed to move it by an hour that might have worked as well.
Maybe she wasn't able to let him know she would be late. Things and situations happen. It's only 20 minutes. Sounds like the Client is a Clock Watcher.
When I see my ATF I always allow some time for her to get ready. She's always on time. But if she's a little late it's no big deal for me. I know she's worth the wait.
My backup ATF was running late to see me a few weeks ago. She called and texted me to let me know. She was only 15 minutes late. She was so apologetic for being late. She's such a sweetheart.
She only told him after she was 20 minutes late and he asked her where she was. Was she getting diapers and formula? Isn't that YOUR job???
So she Could meet The OP. It's all ROGM's fault. He Was the one Late, and neglected To Call her to Let her Know.
I cancelled and she jumped on me for being sketchy and being unwilling to see her later. To be honest I don't care about the time change what bothers me is I had to contact her to find out she was late. I can't do this to anyone in my business; I have even lost a pretty large deal over running 30 minutes late and that was after telling the client ahead of time. Do you think I am being unreasonable?
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Some guys don't allow time for a provider to get ready to see them. I always allow an hour beyond the time I'm ready to see a provider. This way if anything happens then there's time to deal with that issue.
My backup ATF was apologizing for being late to see me a few weeks ago. It was only 15 minutes. She seemed like I was upset at her for being late. I wasn't. I had a great session with her.
I think you are in the right here. Very unprofessional of her. And to put it in another perspective, if she were on the way to meet a "regular" date for dinner, the late person should let their date know. It's business AND general courtesy.
I cancelled and she jumped on me for being sketchy and being unwilling to see her later. To be honest I don't care about the time change what bothers me is I had to contact her to find out she was late. I can't do this to anyone in my business; I have even lost a pretty large deal over running 30 minutes late and that was after telling the client ahead of time. Do you think I am being unreasonable?
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The kid thing was likely a red herring. Some people in life are late to everything. (Like the saying late to their own funeral.) They just can't seem to get their butt in gear. The lack of a message indicates to me that this is normal. If it weren't the kid if probably would of been something else. (It that indeed was the real reason.)