And some amazing experiences with indies. Also some not so good times with both. I agree with GaG that your sample size is too small to make those generalizations.
This is based on my experiences over the last three years and I'm wondering if other guys have noticed the same thing.
When I have booked through an agency to see one of their girls I have always had very good experiences but the dates themselves have always been deliberately slow moving and tentative. A couple of times the girl I was with (different girls, same agency) I tried to initiate things and get things moving at a quicker pace and I was told "slow down...we'll get there eventually" Are agency girls instructed to control the pace of the date?
On the other hand when I have had dates with independent girls they are more up front, more outgoing, somewhat more chatty and almost always more eager to please.
Don't get me wrong...maybe I simply haven't been with enough agency girls or at least, the same ones more frequently.
Thanks
D.
You just can't make a blanket assertion that "all" providers, whether indy or agency, act a certain way.
Try going to almost any K-Girl agency, SOP almost always includes a lip lock the moment you walk through the door. I also still vividly remember once "agency girl" now a highly reviewed indy, where we must have been 45 minutes into an hour session before we ever "came up for air"
I know you are trying to put these ladies into nice, neat little boxes, but the truth of the matter is, it's just not that cut and dried.
I try not to suggest that ANYTHING about another member is "too small."
My sample size of one agency girl, who couldn't speak much English, is that we didn't spend a long time conversing. :-
but only because a couple of the big ones in my area shut down or were busted. I never noticed much of a difference at all in the service.
To me, the only reason to prefer an indy over an agency is the latter is more likely to be targeted by LE.
I see agency girls.. I see independent girls.. I see girls that used to be agency and are now independent...
My take is minimal.. They are all great & most are fine.. but the agency gives no background as far as I can tell to the girl I am seeing.. and the independent typically will involve usually some emails before the date so there us a sense about who she is seeing and who I am seeing,, I like that.. I spend time & effort on being a nice respectful guy.. I asked an agency girl what they told her about me before I got there.. She said "nothing.. Just what time you would be here"... That was sort of a bummer honestly..
agency girls. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I will not trust an agency again.
I will only see indies with reviews on TER , or members of P411.
Based on a couple of bad experiences you throw every agency and every agency girl under the bus. So if you get burned by an indy girl, will you stop seeing all indies?
That was almost exactly what I was going to say.
So after an Indy burns him, he will no longer see agency girls OR indies, so I guess Rosie Palm will be his only choice. Not quite worth SPOTY consideration all by itself, but another stupid post like this one and he'll start attracting some betting action.
And some amazing experiences with indies. Also some not so good times with both. I agree with GaG that your sample size is too small to make those generalizations.
In eight years in the hobby, I have seen about 50 indies, but over 300 agency girls (mostly Kgirls, but a few Viet's and Thai's). I think the mere fact that I an seeing at least 6 times as many Asiancy girls speaks to the fact that I enjoy them much more, but I agree with Perfectstorm, there are clunkers on both sides.
I hope the two indies I'm seeing don't dump me because I said I like Asian girls better. Oh wait, one of the indies is Asian.
I had great time with my indie provider who is my ATF, we do quick, or slow, we have great conversation.
Recently, i took up seeing this girl from a well reputable agency, and i felt the same experience. So it's up to the girls or the agency how they want to operate in their comfort zone.
One of the virtues of the hobby, seems to me, is that while act of providing is very anti-feminist, the fact of women making their decision to use their body, to take advantage of men, put themselves in the position of power, is actually a feminist victory of tremendous sorts.
The anti-SW feminists are apparently too blind to understand this.
So I've always stayed away from agencies, one reason being that I have no need to go support what may very well be just more exploitation of women.
Here's a question: what % of agencies are run by men?
Using one of the best "Agency Towns" in the country, Atlanta as an example. I would say 80% or more of their agencies are female run and owned.
A LOT of women have no desire or affinity for running their own business. It hardly makes them unwilling participants if they choose to give up part of the profit in order not to have to deal with such time consuming and stressful parts of the business like advertising, screening, providing an incall, booking appointments etc etc etc.
MOST (not all) of the agency girls have been upfront and your date lasts only as long as you do. Once and done.....neXT!
When I have booked through an agency to see one of their girls I have always had very good experiences but the dates themselves have always been deliberately slow moving and tentative. A couple of times the girl I was with (different girls, same agency) I tried to initiate things and get things moving at a quicker pace and I was told "slow down...we'll get there eventually" Are agency girls instructed to control the pace of the date?
On the other hand when I have had dates with independent girls they are more up front, more outgoing, somewhat more chatty and almost always more eager to please.
Don't get me wrong...maybe I simply haven't been with enough agency girls or at least, the same ones more frequently.
Thanks
D.