I've read a lot of reviews that boasted about giving the provider multiple O's. I understand that given the sheer number of johns, many of whom have decades of sexual experience, there will be plenty of Cassanovas. Likewise, plenty of providers who truly are enjoying themselves with their client.
That being said, I'm curious to what extent the provider's "orgasm" is part of the fantasy that's built around the client's ego. I'll admit, I've spent a lot of time reading reviews (I consider this hobby to be an investment in personal sexual development, so am thoughtful about who I try to book), and there are many many johns who consistently state that they make their provider come multiple times. The odds on that are too long to be real.
Call me a robot, but I'd rather have a provider tell me what I could be doing better to get her rocks off too than pretending for my sake. Providers, what are your thoughts on that?
The problem is that there is no way to tell if the answer is honest, because there is a financial incentive to appease your fantasy.
they fake orgasms with their other customers, but never with you! They will say that with you, they don't need to. We are all studs to our regulars!
Hmm. From my perspective, it's just a waste of money and time to pay to hear only what she thinks I want to hear.
I guess maybe I should be targeting providers who are more sexually aggressive, and they are more likely to be very clear about what they want?
Frankly, good luck getting an honest answer out of a civie GF as well. 
I guess maybe I should be targeting providers who are more sexually aggressive, and they are more likely to be very clear about what they want?
Will have more fun if you're less serious about what's going on in the provider's head. Your time with them is fantasy, not reality. If it's that important to you that she have an O, then maybe you should just have a civvie girlfriend. There are many factors that make up whether or not she is going to O with you, but if she needs to fake it, it may have absolutely nothing to do with you or your skills, so it doesn't matter. Just go with the flow and enjoy your session.
I'm not saying she has to have an O. I'm saying that if I'm paying for sex, and the girl is faking it, I might as well be with a civvie girl. I guess I was under the impression that since it's P4P, and that low volume providers screen heavily, that the transactional nature of the relationship meant there was no need for bullshitting each other. If I'm doing X, and she's not liking the way I do it, she'd let me know.
I use the hobby to have the sex I actually want so that I can enjoy the very vanilla sex that the mentally and financially stable civvies I date want. It's kind of hard to find non-cray, non-diseased civvies who are down to rim you while you're eating out another girl.
what do providers think men are looking for? And johns, what do you look for?
Harlan,
I am thinking more and more guys are Expecting what they see in PORN.
There is an Ocean of it out there.
And, more and more there is an inability to connect for a true authentic experience of Orgasm.
The norm for a woman to build up her sexual fluid is 20 to 40 minutes.
I'm not sure a lot of guys want to put in that much time to help a girl achieve her pleasure.
Enter- just faking it to make the guy feel good
Yes. That makes sense. And I can also understand how, if such clients make up 90% or more of your business, it's easy to slip into "performance" mode.
Not that I am a pro at eating pussy, I think I still have much to learn, and I plan to spend the rest of my life learning all I can about eating pussy. If I died while eating pussy it would be A OK with me! I LOVE to eat pussy and gladly invest the 20-40 or more minutes to try to give whomever's pussy I am eating an O. I LOVE to get people off if I can! Sometimes I think it happens. Sometimes I know it didn't, even when she acts like it did. Say what you will, and flame away but I have eaten enough pussy and enjoy eating pussy enough that I have noticed on many women a distinct difference in the taste of her pussy at a certain point usually just moments before she claims to have cum. I know the flavor well. I LOVE that sweet silky flavor, and I strive to taste that flavor EVERY TIME I eat pussy. Sometimes I taste it, sometimes I don't.
Go ahead flame away, but it's my theory and experience that when she is close to orgasm the pussy flavor changes noticeably and it's fuckin' yummy as hell!
TP
Including posting this one a few times in the past.
The thing is that was such a great show, that you can probably find a relevant link to almost any discussion topic.
That they are faking when it comes to actually liking their clients.
Like myself cannot orgasm from oral.No idea why.But oral sex just doesn't feel good to me.I prefer good ol' penetration or a good pounding.That gets my juices flowing fast!
She acted like she enjoyed it, IDK if she did or not. For me, I was never so turned on from performing oral before. I don't normally enjoy it that much, but something about her riding my face did it for me.
Yes, I know what you mean. Not an unusual story from ladies I've talked with.
I've developed a toy that can be inserted before oral sex for that Full Feeling , while your partner laps away.
There is an Extreme difference in Oral sensation, when the complete clitoris has all the pressure you want on it .
Yes, I used to fake orgasms. I was married.
We all (girls) have, for one reason or another. Usually to make the guy feel good and/or to get it over with so that we can continue on with what we really want to do.
I am proud of my orgasms now. They're not pretty like my fake ones looked like. I'm on PornHub masturbating with my bone.
That's why the "Get Your Bone On" slogan.
I'm all for banging out an Orgasm for the release of DOPES. Dopamine, Oxytocin, Phenethylamine, Endorphins, Serotonin.
(and, Adrenaline, Norepinephrine, Vasopressin, Testosterone, Estrogen)
Each individual girl will have to give the directions to her Pleasure. Only she will know how to solve the Rubik's cube of Orgasm for her.
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That being said, I'm curious to what extent the provider's "orgasm" is part of the fantasy that's built around the client's ego. I'll admit, I've spent a lot of time reading reviews (I consider this hobby to be an investment in personal sexual development, so am thoughtful about who I try to book), and there are many many johns who consistently state that they make their provider come multiple times. The odds on that are too long to be real.
Call me a robot, but I'd rather have a provider tell me what I could be doing better to get her rocks off too than pretending for my sake. Providers, what are your thoughts on that?
2 providers, one amateur playmate, and two serious lovers all made it clear how they would have climaxes and after a while I got good at giving each one one or more organisms. i found that was a greater pleasure for me than my own orgasms. I remember the best lover I ever had told one day she wants to make me have a number of what I call my big orgasms and she wan6ed that more than having her own, so we did those things that accomplished that. No orgasms for her, a bunch of what I call my big ones. I was grateful we had such a great relationship, she could say that to me. I would vastly prefer a provider telling me that straight then faking it and telling me what we had to do to give her one if she felt like having one. I did see one provider who found me very unappealing. I know because she told me that and explained that she goes for large muscular dark generally Italian American men particular working class ones that weren't too bright. I saw her three times and each time she ended up having a really full squirting climax, but each time she told me after catching her breath that it was a good organism but she didn't really enjoy it. I stopped after #3. She was sexy, but even I couldn't really enjoy that constant rejection.
Are you bisexual, and do you ever visit Las Vegas?
and, You're Very Sexy!
Yes!
and,
I would LoVe it! ... next time in Vegas!
Ooooooooooo myyy gooooodness...yessssssss!!
Was it real for you....because typing it felt real.
Carry on
Lisa
... as long as the client knows how to do it.
Each woman is different, so I can't speak for what leads to orgasms for everyone. For me, if I know orgasming many times is a turn-on for my client, then I let him know how he can get me there. Just as long as he's okay with taking direction!
All women are different. A lot of civvie women have trouble orgasming with their partners.
What I go by is if they're naturally wet. Nothing quite puts a damper on the mood as much as the provider saying "Hold on let me lube up" (unless it's Greek). That means either a) they've seen so many guys that day they're just done, or b) there's zero attraction there.