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What have you got against the envelope industry?....
mrfisher 108 Reviews 205 reads
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8o)

Seriously, it doesn't matter one way or the other to me

To avoid problems like the one posted below? From the hobbyists perspective. How would you feel if you're asked to not bring the donation in an envelope?

GaGambler470 reads

I'd be fine with it. It would even lead me to believe that the lady in question had a bit of common sense.

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There is no confusion that money is changing hands here. The question is 'what is it changing hands for?'  You tell us on your website how much money you want.  Then people bring it to you.  You spell it all out - money is paid for time and companionship only.   An envelope does not change the nature of that transaction.

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I don't see how it would scare away any reputable client so I'd say not to worry -- it will be a win-win by getting rid of the dirtbags and not supporting some silly custom. (If the shit hits the fan whether the $ is in an envelope, a wallet, a pocket or on the table it just doesn't matter I suspect.)

I've used envelopes, I've left the money out on the table, and in one case I handed it to her directly...made no difference to me whatsoever...

all of these as well.  Whatever make the provider comfortable makes me comfortable.

GoogleWasMyIdea246 reads

Not only would I feel good just handing over the donation, in a worst case scenario having the exact amount listed on an escort's website with you, in an envelope, might be used as evidence you were planning to pay that provider.

Senator.Blutarsky277 reads

I really don't understand all the fuss about this subject... Envelope/no envelope is immaterial to me... Let's just get the party started... 😎

JakeFromStateFarm256 reads

Actually, I'm not even a fake Senator but my guess is the envelope is part of the GFE illusion that she's really your GF and no money is changing hands.  I find it silly, but do it if it's in her "Etiquette" section because why piss her off?
That said, it does make it easier for scammers to stuff the envelope with fake money.  I generally leave to wash up after dropping the envelope so she can check it.

usually had them take the envelope into another room and then come back without it.  It gets the money out of the same room the sex is taking place in.  However, once the first meeting goes well, if I repeat, the timing of the donation is usually not an issue, and I just lay it down on the nightstand at the end of the session.

JakeFromStateFarm153 reads

I've often had to remind them as I'm leaving that "it's right over there."

When hobbyist bring it in an envelope.. More professional.. Nothing more uncomfortable to have them count out the donation in front you me...  

Always make sure the donation is correct before or right after the session... The OPs mistake below is that she didn't instead she went to grab a smoke with them...  

Xo
GC  
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Posted By: sasha2cute
To avoid problems like the one posted below? From the hobbyists perspective. How would you feel if you're asked to not bring the donation in an envelope?

8o)

Seriously, it doesn't matter one way or the other to me

Posted By: sasha2cute
To avoid problems like the one posted below? From the hobbyists perspective. How would you feel if you're asked to not bring the donation in an envelope?

...a provider looked in the envelope and found fake money and confronted the Assh---e client. I think she should be prepared for a violent reaction from the client.

VOO-doo263 reads

That happened to a friend of mine. She told the client he had to leave, and he did so without argument... she said she was scared out of her wits!!! She was lucky...

I had an agency guy try to short me. The phone girl told me to tell him that, while me may have mistaken the rate for $x00, it was actually $y00... luckily, he had the money on him, and paid. I had no issues with him, but never saw him again.  

As an independent, I have only counted money a handful of times. If there's a discrepancy, I prefer to deal with it after the appointment, rather than confront a guy in person... I've explained the gist of my philosophy below.

Posted By: cooper80
...a provider looked in the envelope and found fake money and confronted the Assh---e client. I think she should be prepared for a violent reaction from the client.

While I agree there could have been a confrontation had she opened the envelope and saw the monopoly money. Without an envelope I doubt he would have slapped down the funny money? I hate the whole envelope deal myself. I also have no problem with the provider counting the money before the session.

VOO-doo303 reads

I feel like that's a huge turn-off to a potential client. It throws up a barrier... a feeling of us vs. them... before we even meet.

If a client is nice, he doesn't want or deserve to think that I suspect him of being a thug.  

Maybe this is just me, but if I've screened someone (or met him before, and feel comfortable seeing him again), I feel like I trust him enough to pay... I've been bilked a few times by guys I've known and trusted, but luckily, that's the very rare exception.  

I'd rather be out a few benjamins, than treat a nice guy like a potential douchebag.  

There will ALWAYS be a few guys who will take advantage, and that's just life... I'd rather keep an optimistic outlook, and assume the best of someone... and take any loss as a cost of doing business... rather than, say, asking the guy to throw down bare bills upon my bathroom counter and then allowing me a minute while I 'discreetly' count the money. I personally feel like that gives a bad vibe.  

But, if the guy insists that I go into the bathroom and count it (or whatever), I'll do it, so that he can feel reassured that we're OK.

If, upon returning home, I find that the envelope (so to speak) was a bit short, I either won't see him again, or will mention the fact before I see him next... that is, if I can generally feel certain that it was just a mistake. If I think it was intentional, we're done.  

Again, that's just me. It's worked, for the most part.

It is a turn off to count it in front of me. I understand the need to do it. So I excuse myself and go wash my hands and clean up for her. It maybe just me but it is a turn off.

VOO-doo202 reads

It tells the client that you are keeping the worst-case-scenario in the forefront of your mind. Rather than being truly open to the  experience of getting to know a new person.

I've NEVER been stiffed by a new client... only regulars who took advantage of my trust.

GaGambler137 reads

and envelope or not, you are still fucking a hooker. Yes my friend, like it or not you are patronizing a prostitute for sex, you can call it "classy" if you like, but it is what it is.  

Personally, I think "classy" is overrated, I enjoy every minute I spend with these ladies, I don't have to play mind games with myself in order to feel "classy"

Everything is in my mind. I'm not capable of perceiving or interacting with anything in the world except by means of the electrical signals generated and communicated by my brain and central nervous system.

And above all, the most powerful sexual organ is the mind. So perhaps classiness is not attractive to you -- no worries, that's just fine. But I myself am not attracted to cheap hookers. So I want a classy, luxury experience. For me, the classy experience mandates an envelope. I have as mich interest in a classless hooker as I do a fat hooker, which is to say, none!

The donation needs to be precounted correctly & kept together.  I use a paperclip.  I fan the bills slightly when I place it on her dresser.  This has worked for me since 2008.
I wouldn't say to skip the envolupe per say but you could remove that language from your web site.

YES!

Pre counted and correct amount.
Place it down and maybe a little "oh I left your thing on the counter by the stove " and keep on moving.  

I have NEVER counted it back in front of them.  NEVER.

So if the money is for "time and companionship only" and like some of y'all said, why can't we just hand the money over to her and SAY that? Or just sit it down and say it? Or why can't we just say "Hey I found this out by ur door, it must be yours"  

I'm new and still trying to figure some of this small stuff out

#justsayin

I was told "y'all" is singular and the plural would be "all y'all".  Were they BS'ing me because I'm not from the south?

he's from the Republic of Texas.  I spent much time in that fine state, some of my family lives there now, and I for one don't cott'n to that sort of thing.

To answer my friend's question:  It's on account of the fact that they'll freak out if you do.  It's a gal thing.

And now, this public service announcement about The State of Texas, courtesy of Brian Ferry:

..."all ya'll" is definitely plural. When guests (in the south they are called company as in company's [company is ] comin'.) are leaving you say ya'll (plural ie. all of them) come again.  

You might be a redneck if you can say it with a cigarette hanging out of your mouth.

Envelope makes things civil since that is the business consideration

Interesting to read all the comments here. I have never used an envelope anyway. To me...
1) Waste of time and trouble.  
2) When you lay a cash donation down, the provider can clearly see the money.  
3) Girls seem to feel less embarrassed to quickly check the donation if it's in the open rather than rummage through an envelope.
I want my sessions to go well, so the last thing I need is for the provider to have any hesitation or wonder if the donation is really there or not. In my experience talking with providers, they have enough to worry about, so if I can do something to make them more comfortable, then the result is that I usually have a great session too

And thank you MrFisher! Nice video! Hahahahaha

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I'm totally discombobulated by this conversation!All this energy being wasted over a piece of paper that costs a few cents. We have the war in Ukraine,rampant worldwide inflation,and a planet that's in the  process of dying. Get ahold of yourselves. Jesus f Christ!!!

YOU reviving the 6-year-old thread and then calling someone else out for posting on it?  Gotta admire the Chutzpah.  Lol

...claiming inicky revived this 6 year old thread?  The thread was revived by QueenBia NINE DAYS ago.  inicky didn't post until TODAY.

But do you see the irony to this? Whatever the fuck this irony thing is....Relax CKS, no need to jump in..
Laughing at CDL, not with him.....lol

What else is new.  Nicky brought it here because I linked it to a post on the P & R board.  Instead of responding there, he responded to the linked post on the GD thread.  He's already acknowledged it on September 9th, and we had a back and forth exchange for a few days after that before the thread was taken down.  Here was my first response to his revival of the thread . . . .

 
"This was a nice CYA walk-back for stepping on your dick by calling me out on the P & R board.  Why did you move the conversation to THIS board?  Was it THAT embarrassing?   Lol     As you can see from THIS thread, I already knew this, but you relish looking for any opportunity for a personal attack.  Alas, this one backfired.  I'm sure everyone believes your explanation.  Now that I have proven that I posted it here six years ago, you say you knew it 30 years ago.  You forgot to add neener, neener, neener.   Nice job of showing the community how low petty can go.  You should have taken the "L" and move on.   You can't win them all.  Lol

 
It's ironic that you had to bring the whole 6-year-old thread back to the top of the board when you are the one that most often criticizes others for doing that.  (I've got links if you want them, but will you resurrect those threads, too.)  Lol    Got hypocrisy?  

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Do you see how doubly stupid you look when you come back here after an absence and start commenting on things you don't know shit about that happened while you were gone?  Then Happy tries to white knight for you and HE doesn't know how this developed either. Queen posted after it was already here from Nicky.  Ask him.  I don't think he has any reason to deny it.  I have all the posts that were taken down from the exchange in my archive I can show you.  You put your foot in your mouth more than anyone else here.  

"An archive of posts"  --  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 
You bullshit all the time about your fantastic business with 60+ employees as well as the other 5 or 6 businesses you own.  You go to the gym every day and you fuck cut-rate K-girls 3 times a week.

 
I'm sure I left out out a lot of the bullshit you've posted that you do, but you still find time to be the NUMBER ONE poster on TER for the last 6 months with 1,250 posts, an average of more than 200 a month.  And yet with all the things you do, you still have time to keep an archive of TER posts.

 
Get a life, loser!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

archive of their posts, you moron.  Just go to "MyTER", pick the "More" tab and go to "My posts".  They are all there, even the ones that have been removed because a thread was removed.  I can't believe you have been on TER for fifteen years and didn't know this.  The archive is AUTOMATIC for everyone, you idiot.  It's time to take the loss and go home on this one.  The only loser here is YOU.  You claim to be "Mr. I-know-everything-about-TER", but you didn't know this.  Do you see the irony in calling someone else a loser?  Bwahahahahahhaha

 
If you don't like what I post, you are free to not read it, but you can't help yourself, can you? I have the life you WISH you had and you're jealous as hell.  Your post just proves it.  

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Still the asshole who simply insults on the most inconsequential detail.  Yet complains about being insulted.

 
Are you a Trump clone?  Clearly you are a master of projection.

...but in your usual self-aggrandizing way, you call it "my archive."  

called an archive.  If you had more education, you would know this.  I can't help it if your archive is mostly about me.  That was your choice when you became obsessed with me.  

 
I see you don't disagree with the substance of my post and the bitch-slapping you got.  Try to keep up in the future.  Otherwise, there will be many more attempts to save face after you embarrass yourself like you did on this exchange.  You will want one more personal attack since you lost the debate, so go ahead and take your best shot.  

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...you LIE about everything else.  It's your pathetically desperate attempt to pretend you were right to call "My Board Posts" an "archive."

 
"By definition," an archive is a COLLECTION of historic documents.  You did not "collect" your board posts - TER did, just as they do for every other member.  But your egomaniacal psychosis makes you believe that your TER board posts are worthy of being deemed "historic" and therefore the list of your posts should be called an "archive."

 
"By definition," you are an idiot.  Look up "idiot" in the dictionary - there's a picture of YOU!

and get your ass kicked, you devolve into the minutia?  This started when you attacked for kidding Nicky about his post after bringing this thread.  I proved he did, and so you started nitpicking language until you got to a place where you had to lie.  Do you see the irony in lying about whether I lied?  Merriam-Webster's website gives this as an EXAMPLE of using "archive" in a sentence . . . . .  " She archived her e-mail messages in a folder on her hard drive."  Gee, that sounds a lot like what is going on with board posts here.  The term "historical" just means "from the past", but they don't have to have any special significance beyond that of the user and they don't have to be documents.  You can archive photos, newspapers, videos, or anything else you want to preserve in an organized manner.  TER automatically "archives" all reviews that are posted.  News stations all have archives for their past video clips.  If you had gone a little further in school, you might have learned this.  

 
I know you were gone for a week, and unfortunately, the treatment for anal warts was not successful, but that is no reason to come back here with a chip on your shoulder.  Once I proved Nicky DID revive this thread, the SMART move (which you never seem to choose) was to just say, "Yeah, I was gone, so I didn't know that." and apologize to the board for jumping to conclusions.  Why don't you ever choose to just be a decent human being?  Maybe it's time to see a therapist about your 24/7 obsession with me?  

What else would you expect from the consummate asshole?

I have to keep a box of envelopes in my car which can bring associated questions. Not to say my cluttered vehicle may not have other items of question.

I have only forgotten to leave a donation once with a regular.. she caught me outside the door and I had the donation in a separate pocket, so I just pulled it out walked back in and set it down. I always count my "bundle" several times prior to arrival. I usually try to leave the correct amount in as few number of bills as possible and usually fan the donation out when I set it down prior to freshening up. Once I had two different amounts in different pockets based on levels of service when I noted a regular had upgraded her menu. When I inquired about her expanded menu and clarified, I found out BJ (C or BB) was out of the question I reverted to my lower donation after telling her I would not partake of her higher menu.  Was hoping for DATY and BBBJ

It is a simple matter to remove it from the envelope before seeing the lady. I use envelopes to organize my cash, but I would always honor a a polite request by a lady as long as it is simple and not too much of a hoop to jump.

That way it is on the counter in the bathroom and we are all aware of it and I handle the collection discreetly. I never take the envelope anyway. I take the money and put it in my purse before I go.

This is worse than regurgitating the same topics every other week. But you did make me look!  ;-)

Steph XO

And I’ve probably used an envelope three times ever.

I put the donation in a greeting card and usually write something nice especially if I have seen her before.  Is that silly?

It just feels more civilized that having some one toss money on the table. Have i been shorted a few times. i had a client forget to pay. i forgot to ask. My booker emailed him and he came right back.

99% of the clients are great. The 1% are bottom feeders who get off cheating the girl more than the sex. It is sad

I liked receiving an envelope full of money. I agree that counting money makes for an awkward vibe, I never liked doing that but I've had guys tell me to count the money so I know they aren't taking advantage of me. That's the thing every guy you see is different and expect different things. I would just ask for the donation at the beginning of the session and hope its all there because I don't wanna set off the wrong vibe. If I come to find out he left me short handed I just never see the guy again. Not getting another chance with me after that.

I would agree that putting the Donations into an envelope is not appropriate. Just Lay the money out on the counter top.

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