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Posted By: Tubbo01
I can only speak for me.  
   
 I have had plenty of experience's with women thank you very much. Some positive some not so much.  
 You don't know anyone here from a hole in the wall. just because we are portrayed as something doesn't mean that's who we truly are.  
   
 Until you sit me down at a table and have a conversation with me you have no idea the type of person I am. My references adore me. The people that I have met are better for having the opportunity to spend some time with me and the same goes for me towards them. I have never fell in love with anyone here and I go at my pace. You might think I am an idiot doing this wrong but did you know that I only started this after losing the love of my life at 30. Never cheated on anyone I have ever been with. I take care of my aging parents and paid a nice chunk of my sisters wedding to give her a dream wedding.  
   
 Who the fuck are you to judge us?  
   
 I have dated some amazing women. I hit a rough batch and decided to give myself a year in this world to see if it caters to my needs. I hope to learn more about me thru the hobby and won't be here long term.  
   
 I can tell you I dated a neurologist a Broadway Actress and a dentist. You don't date those type of girls if your not special or good with your game.  
   
 If you want to be condescending find another room. I don't want to hear this shit.  
   
 Have a good night.  
 Z  
   
 Well aren't you the bell of the ball? You should've married the dentist.  
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.  
     
  Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
     
  Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
     
  Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
     
  You'll thank me later.

Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.

Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.

Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.

Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.

You'll thank me later.

I don't have much experience.  That's why I'm hiring me some tutors!

valman266 reads

In general you're right.......guys shouldn't be looking to date or marry a provider but I do know of 3 girls who did marry a client (2 are now divorced)  And for example, I've never had an appt with someone 20 years younger than me, I'm mid 40's and the biggest gap was a fav of mine who is 36,  Everybody plays this game a bit different, Just have fun, forget the bitterness

I can only speak for me.

I have had plenty of experience's with women thank you very much. Some positive some not so much.
You don't know anyone here from a hole in the wall. just because we are portrayed as something doesn't mean that's who we truly are.

Until you sit me down at a table and have a conversation with me you have no idea the type of person I am. My references adore me. The people that I have met are better for having the opportunity to spend some time with me and the same goes for me towards them. I have never fell in love with anyone here and I go at my pace. You might think I am an idiot doing this wrong but did you know that I only started this after losing the love of my life at 30. Never cheated on anyone I have ever been with. I take care of my aging parents and paid a nice chunk of my sisters wedding to give her a dream wedding.  

Who the fuck are you to judge us?

I have dated some amazing women. I hit a rough batch and decided to give myself a year in this world to see if it caters to my needs. I hope to learn more about me thru the hobby and won't be here long term.  

I can tell you I dated a neurologist a Broadway Actress and a dentist. You don't date those type of girls if your not special or good with your game.  

If you want to be condescending find another room. I don't want to hear this shit.

Have a good night.  
Z

 

 

 
 

Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.  
   
 Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
   
 Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
   
 Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
   
 You'll thank me later.

JakeFromStateFarm266 reads

But here's a hint:  if you have to tell us how cool you are in every way on a fuck board with a bunch of handles and aliases who can lie as much as they want, well, you just sorta look like a fool.
Please don't be angry with me.

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
But here's a hint:  if you have to tell us how cool you are in every way on a fuck board with a bunch of handles and aliases who can lie as much as they want, well, you just sorta look like a fool.  
 Please don't be angry with me.

Posted By: Tubbo01
I can only speak for me.  
   
 I have had plenty of experience's with women thank you very much. Some positive some not so much.  
 You don't know anyone here from a hole in the wall. just because we are portrayed as something doesn't mean that's who we truly are.  
   
 Until you sit me down at a table and have a conversation with me you have no idea the type of person I am. My references adore me. The people that I have met are better for having the opportunity to spend some time with me and the same goes for me towards them. I have never fell in love with anyone here and I go at my pace. You might think I am an idiot doing this wrong but did you know that I only started this after losing the love of my life at 30. Never cheated on anyone I have ever been with. I take care of my aging parents and paid a nice chunk of my sisters wedding to give her a dream wedding.  
   
 Who the fuck are you to judge us?  
   
 I have dated some amazing women. I hit a rough batch and decided to give myself a year in this world to see if it caters to my needs. I hope to learn more about me thru the hobby and won't be here long term.  
   
 I can tell you I dated a neurologist a Broadway Actress and a dentist. You don't date those type of girls if your not special or good with your game.  
   
 If you want to be condescending find another room. I don't want to hear this shit.  
   
 Have a good night.  
 Z  
   
 Well aren't you the bell of the ball? You should've married the dentist.  
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.  
     
  Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
     
  Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
     
  Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
     
  You'll thank me later.

Posted By: ABC1234qq
 
   
Posted By: Tubbo01
I can only speak for me.  
     
  I have had plenty of experience's with women thank you very much. Some positive some not so much.  
  You don't know anyone here from a hole in the wall. just because we are portrayed as something doesn't mean that's who we truly are.  
     
  Until you sit me down at a table and have a conversation with me you have no idea the type of person I am. My references adore me. The people that I have met are better for having the opportunity to spend some time with me and the same goes for me towards them. I have never fell in love with anyone here and I go at my pace. You might think I am an idiot doing this wrong but did you know that I only started this after losing the love of my life at 30. Never cheated on anyone I have ever been with. I take care of my aging parents and paid a nice chunk of my sisters wedding to give her a dream wedding.    
     
  Who the fuck are you to judge us?  
     
  I have dated some amazing women. I hit a rough batch and decided to give myself a year in this world to see if it caters to my needs. I hope to learn more about me thru the hobby and won't be here long term.    
     
  I can tell you I dated a neurologist a Broadway Actress and a dentist. You don't date those type of girls if your not special or good with your game.    
     
  If you want to be condescending find another room. I don't want to hear this shit.  
     
  Have a good night.    
  Z  
     
  Well aren't you the bell of the ball? You should've married the dentist.  
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.    
       
   Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.    
       
   Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.    
       
   Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.    
       
   You'll thank me later.
 
I guess you have no thoughts or lost in translation

480funguy180 reads

Was lost in translation. His own remarks are inside the quote, at the end of Tubbo's.

a warm human experience with an attractive woman.  On a number of occasions in the past, some of these have blossomed into friendship and a wonderful familiarity.  Many times where the only difference between my experience with a certain provider was little different from my experience with a friend with benefit except I would give her money at the beginning.  
I some how have much less free time now than I used to so, while I have greatly enjoyed a number of the women I have met during this period of activity, none of these meetings has had a chance to blossom like that, tho there were a few which certainly could have if I were free enough and we lived in the same cities

NoYellowEnvelope317 reads

... that a beautiful, sexy woman, model material even, would have anything to do with a guy 20+ years older!  Nah, we're not Prince Charming.  

But wait a minute there...

-- Modified on 5/2/2016 9:06:52 PM

when there is a 20+ age difference, there is almost always a financial component involved, whether the woman is a provider or a civvie girl.  Its a trade-off for the woman.  Do they want a guy their own age and a full time job outside the home, or are they willing to be with an older guy who can give them an easy life?  For many, its a no-brainer.  Speaking of a no-brainer, that's what Johnson got.

480funguy138 reads

LOL. When I saw your subject line, I honestly thought you were gonna say the common thread was both individuals in Maxwell's picture are dead. I have a bent sense of humor.

Good point though.

is that there's a little bit of everything here.  For the johns, it ranges from Jeffrey Dahmer to Christian Gray and for the girls, the range is like Alleen Wuomos to Vivian Ward and beyond.  The range is too wide to make any real sweeping conclusions.  

I have plenty of experience, having well over 100 civvie encounters, most of which happened when I was between 16 and 30.  Being in my 40's and with an SO, I'll just say my looks and game isn't bad, but they're not getting any better either.  Like GaG has said, I consider myself at this point to be "not repulsive".  

I like hookers, because it's the easiest way for me to satisfy my sexual appetite and seriously avoid RL "affair" type drama.  I find, that I actually tend to click with hookers for some reason.

I actually believe that there is a fair amount of real attraction in this P4P world.  I don't follow rules. am horny, and I like pleasing and being pleased by dirty girls who fuck really good.  I have no hang ups about girls who like to fuck guys for money nor do I mind paying.  In fact, I'm attracted to women who are able to become that confident and empowered.  I believe there are a fair amount of girls here who genuinely like and are even somewhat attracted to non-repulsive, twisted guys who don't judge and also fuck good.  

I see it somewhat like swinging.  The majority of the population out there is so close minded, they cannot wrap their head around the concept of swinging.  It's an absolute deal breaker, won't even consider the thought.  But then there is this faction of people (men, women and couples) who have somehow overcome all of that and are completely cool with it and have discovered this amazingly tantalizing world.  It's "this" type of personality I click with the most and I think "this" type of personality bleeds into P4P as well and when those "couples" find one another, genuine attraction DOES happen.  From there, there is a seemingly infinite number of possibilities as to what happens next.

480funguy235 reads

I haven't noticed a rash of clients on here saying they've fallen in love with providers recently. Overall, I've probably seen providers say they have feelings for a client almost as often as I've seen clients say they've fallen for a provider. I said almost.  

More importantly, why do you give a fuck what other guys do with their cocks or hearts, lol? So random. Just do your thing the way you do your thing. Who cares what everyone else is doing? LOL! So freaking weird to me when people wanna critique how others hobby.

As was said, why you bitter? I don't know the first thing about you and I'm not jumping to conclusions, but I do see why your post would raise suspicions that you gave your heart to a provider and she stomped on it.

Don't worry, as we progress scientifically we can start a cloning program which can clone millions of extra hot women so then we won't have to pay.  They may have to start paying us, in fact...  It's only a matter of time so we are just seeing providers in the interim.  

 

Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.  
   
 Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
   
 Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
   
 Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
   
 You'll thank me later.

In fact I have given up on real world dating and much prefer to date someone I meet as a client.. I know of a few girls that have also married a client..

Single guys don't always have 'no game'.. more often then not they are just time poor due to their careers etc etc

my last three relationships were with providers I started out as a customer with.  Providers are pre-conditioned to work with the man's schedule, not the other way around, so it is a much better place for me to be able to balance my career and my sex life.

hotplants299 reads

Oh... I'm thanking you already.  

After your (amazingly astute) and completely subjective analysis of why any/every dude does this, I'm curious about your insight on why us dude-ets do...(ya know----us girls). Is it because we've only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped? Or, are we single and have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex?  

I'm trying to contain my emotions..but being a girl and all,....you sound like a guy who can really get me back on the right path. So... you think I should "just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow"?

Whatever the rude truth is,...and, I'm sure you do hate to break it to me. But....I'm sitting down. So, let-er rip.  

 

 

 

 

 

 
 Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
   
 Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
   
 Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
   
 You'll thank me later.

I don't think I'm that unusual, but as a Regionl Manager for a manufacturing company from age 26 to 36 I traveled the US and Canada extensively (on expense account) and had many, many civilian gf's over that time....  at least a few dozen. We dated, were lovers, and things ran their course until we went our separate ways.

Also had a couple of steadies close to my home base. None were p4p, but I always treated them with the respect and gave them all the attention and affection they wanted. Always being very clear that my only committed relationship was to my work. Most of them really only wanted a nice dinner and drinks before inviting me home with them or spending the evening in my hotel room enjoying each others company. Yes, not all were 9's and 10's, but all were well above average to me and special in some way... or why would we have bothered??!?

I learned a lot about people, and ladies in particular... Mostly that they are open to almost anything if you are honest, once they know they can trust you and you make sure they know they always have absolute control over where and how far things will go between you.

So yep, I'm enjoying some professional companionship these days and not really too concerned about love. But it sure works for me!

Bottom line Walt?    You know nothing.     -- EOM --

-- Modified on 5/3/2016 12:06:21 AM

Epicurus61208 reads

You and I know that the only place a dude with no game is gonna find real love is at a strip club!

You don't seem to understand why guys do this. Perhaps you could dazzle us with your intellect and tell us why you do this?

Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.  
   
 Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
   
 Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
   
 Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
   
 You'll thank me later.

A better question than " why do YOU do this" might be ..." uhhh , who are you , again"....lo

Jacks_Acolyte142 reads

Because it's a cheaper release than a wife and with the money he saves he can buy a bigger and badder scooter? One with extra flags!!!!

stucaboy143 reads

I pay them and they don't love me?  How can that be? Are you sure?
I was sure she ment it when she said "I love you".
Are you sure?

Let's see. I've been offered two outside relationships, one offer of marriage, several offers of overnighters otc, breakfasts, lunches, and dinners otc, free sessions, several thousand emails, vms, and texts otc, random otc just because, and an array of desserts after the main course, all otc. My last escort actually said 'I love you'. I've had one helluva ride here on TER. One doesn't have to be Prince Charming. Kindness, humor, loyalty, and dependability work wonders.  

But I'm not the one seeking an outside relationship with the ladies. In my experience, they are. I'm the one who turned them all down. With all due respect to the ladies, everybody knows that all marriages end up sexless. It's one thing to have a wife give up on sex. One can live with that. But it would add insult to injury if I married a provider, only to have her give up on sex. Now that would be hard to live with. So no thank you! I think it's perfect just the way it is.

Everybody believes a braggart. The way hookers chase you I would think you could get the sex for free from civvies without having a relationship.

We'll thank you later?  I think not...most of us play the game as it unfolds, and adjust accordingly.    Most of the guys here have their own unique perspectives and experiences.  Same with the ladies.  My advice to you...do the same, listen to what others say, and evaluate according to your own unique perspective.  No need to criticize others unless they ask...

Men and Women have bartering chips.  For men, it's their ability to do things physically and provide security.  
For women it's their pussy.  

 Let the Games begin, because it is all about how you Prefer to Play the Game.

based on what I've read and my own experience.

Hell, I know of 2 gals who broke off contact with me when I started dating another provider.  Green eyed gonzagas it's called.  I've never broken off with a provider if I learned she started to date another guy.  My thoughts were:  good for them.

A lot of it is mixed up with money of course, there's no way to divorce the two.  And women have emotions that are more "out there", if you know what I mean.  Guys fall in love with football team, for Christ's sake.

So, fear not, we'll do fine

The more insecure a woman is, the more her need to CONTROL you and what you do with your dick, the more her "Lack-Of-Worthiness will boil up and over when she doesn't get her way.

It's clear that you're the smartest, savviest, most perceptive, insightful, knowledgeable and wise commentator on the TER discussion board. That's a tremendous accomplishment!!

Mazel tov, motherf---er

Please make sure that the next Star Wars movie doesn't copy The Empire Strikes Back, like the last movie copied A New Hope.

it happens more than you think.........had one fall for my husband......didn't end well for her.......he didnt feel the same obviously... she took exception to that...and as far as experience, im sure the majority of the men here have tons of it, they just chose not to waste it on women that are not.

Posted By: Walter.Disney
Seems that most of the dudes that post here haven't had much experience with women aside from what they've seen here.  
   
 Fellas, if you had lots of experience wouldn't you tend to look at this differently?  Seems that so many guys only had a wife to have sex with, and then she stopped.  And the single guys have no game and have to pay escorts to ever have sex.  
   
 Nothing wrong with paying escorts, but please try and contain your emotions.  I am certain the escorts don't love you, and probably don't even like you aside from getting paid.  This craziness of falling in love with them is hilarious to read.  I am sure that many of the dudes are really lonely, and latch on to an escort because she was nice to him.  But c'mon guys, it's just an illusion.  Think about it for a minute.  
   
 Why in the hell would a 25 year old woman who is decent looking consider getting involved with guys 20+ years older than her?  That movie always ends the same way.  Just fuck the escorts, pay them and find another shiny new toy tomorrow.  I hate to break it to you guys, but you're NOT Prince Charming.  
   
 You'll thank me later.

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