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harborview 10 Reviews 243 reads
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shut the music off, put a robe on or get dressed.  Assist him getting dressed.  Ladies must be excellant time managers & great actresses...  but not let him see you doing so.  Do NOT say you have another appointment with a client.  TACKY!  But you can have any other place to go...  The bank.  Meeting your sister.  Any excuse.    

I have had FAV ladies encourage me to stay & chat BUT the session was over.  WE were well into getting dressed.  We took turns in the bathroom.  She checked her messages.  By 10 or 15 past I was on the road.  And this was by invitation.  I was dressed & ready to leave.    

EVEN IF you have an hour between appointments...  you will want to use the rest room, shower, have something to eat, any yes, Rest.  It's not right for a guy to encroach excessively on your time.

I need advice on an issue I've been having more often lately. The issue is clients who know they are overstaying the time they booked and the time they are paying for. 5 minutes isn't a big deal but I think when it's 15 mins + and it's happening every time you see that person then it is a real issue. I have other things planned for my day and I like to keep a strict schedule. Now there are times when I don't have anything specific planned for afterwards and if we are both enjoying each others company and having nice conversation, then I don't have a problem cuddling and talking 30 minutes or more after the end of the appointment. But most of the time my schedule will not allow this.
 There are a few clients this has happened with. After the first session when the client overstayed, I make a note of it to remember when they book their next appointment. I have even offered a discount on a 90 minute appt rather than an hour. My offer is declined and they still book an hour. Then when it comes down to the appt, they again over stay. Am I wrong to think these clients have no respect for my time? They are all polite and nice other wise and we seem to have great chemistry. But when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of its a real mood killer. Should I refuse to see them again if they can't be more respectful of my time?  Any input is appreciated.  
XoXo  
Brooke

JakeFromStateFarm651 reads

1) Book him again but respectfully require they book 90 minutes this time.
2) Don't respond to his next request.
3) Book his 1-hour request but when the hour is up, sweetly say, "Honey it's been a lot of fun and I hope we can do it again but I have plans and really need to get ready to go out."  If he doesn't start getting ready to go, begin to clean up to leave, then offer to walk him out with you.
Pick one!  Not so hard, huh?

Ask him if he wants to hang around while you get ready for your next appointment.. That's a pretty good hint..  
Or.. reference the time...casually.. as in,, Ohh.. it's already 1:15.. I can't believe it..  obvious but also a good hint..

You just really have to speak up your just to nice or.
Just get some Liquid Ass spray and a good squirt in the bathroom and poof he's as good as gone.

                                       http://www.liquidass.com  

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VOO-doo332 reads

Of something another provider told me once. 'Fart, and he will leave.'  

I've not yet had the courage to give it a try...

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
1) Book him again but respectfully require they book 90 minutes this time.  
 2) Don't respond to his next request.  
 3) Book his 1-hour request but when the hour is up, sweetly say, "Honey it's been a lot of fun and I hope we can do it again but I have plans and really need to get ready to go out."  If he doesn't start getting ready to go, begin to clean up to leave, then offer to walk him out with you.
Pick one!
I agree with what many responders have said, but I have to disagree with this:
Not so hard, huh?
It IS more difficult than all the suggestions make it seem or Brooke wouldn't be here asking.  

Some guys just need a gentle reminder and they apologize for not realizing the time and they are up and out of there. Some guys, I suspect, might get pissed off at the suggestion that they are not worthy of extra time and attention, OTC.  

Nudge, nudge, push, push, harder, harder ... until you hit the threshold, and hope that it's the HE LEAVES threshold and not the HE'S PISSED threshold

Start with #3 next time he's there, then if he doesn't get the picture gradually escalate to #1 and then #2. Try to keep/save the regular, but take back control.

almost up. Time for you to get out of bed, put on a robe and say something like, "Can I prepare a warm shower for you?". If he doesn't get the hint, then he isn't real bright.

Just say you are going to get dressed because you have to run soon, but it was a real pleasure, let's do this again real soon.

Easy peasy.

I kind of rely on the gal to watch the clock.

When you do not have anything else on your agenda and you allow this to happen, you have no one else to blame but yourself when this continue to happen. I know you're probably being a good host and working on keeping Them as regulars but your playing with a double edged sword here. It has happened to me and I; much like you, keep notes when people do this to me. One person even asked me if I was lying about having to study when j told him he needed to go after almost 20 minutes of overstaying past the time he booked. He obviously didn't pay me for it but I sure made a note to keep a stricter schedule with people like him.  

I may sound blunt when I say this and I'm sure most people will think I'm a bitch, but I'm sure you will get a bunch of PMs from people who feel be same but don't wanna be perceived as that. You do not have to give any explanations to people when their time is up. Just get dressed and thank them for their bsuiness. You don't have to be mean about it apologetic. Just make sure they understand their time is up and you have a schedule to keep. People can't feel rushed if they're past their allocated time. I learned this from a provider who I met who taught me a lot just by example. You can work on your exiting routine when a session is coming to an end. But one thing is for certain is, your partially to blame by allowing them to stay when you have no appointments after or no other plans.  

Hope you get your problem fixed girl. Ure gorgeous by the way :-)

DEATH-METAL-CHICK442 reads

and open their schedule book for your next meeting. The meeting is over.

I thought therapists weren't supposed to get personally involved with their clients.  You know, professional code of ethics and conflict of interest and all that.

And yes, this post has been made in jest.

DEATH-METAL-CHICK314 reads

No but I have wanted to. They are very good at letting you know to keep on your side of the fence. Professional sports massage therapists are also the same. They throw the blanket back on you and say time's up. Come out when you're ready. And they just walk out. Therapists seem to have a more personable I'm still sort of your friend approach to it. :)

Posted By: InspectorMorse
I thought therapists weren't supposed to get personally involved with their clients.  You know, professional code of ethics and conflict of interest and all that.  
   
 And yes, this post has been made in jest.  

I put a question mark since it's a little vague. She is at 500 an hour or 750 for 90 minutes. Does shower time (within reason ) count towards the 60 minutes? Most in her price range don't count that. She says she does not mind an extra 5 minutes but is upset at 15 minutes. I don't think 5- 10 minutes is a big deal with a 500 an hour session.  

Most likely she wants to charge for every single minute over 60. In that case she might as well just go to a 90 minute minimum. Otherwise it sounds like clock watching.

if i were a hot chick doing this, i would handle it this way.

10 minutes (or whatever your thresh letting the guy stay and chit chat) after the clock ran out, i would simply say, "Oh, i see you're planning to stay extra.  how much longer?  that will be another $300 for the half hour, $400 for the hour.  i need to see the money now before we can continue."

or whatever amount you'd like to quote.

of course the danger here is that the guy will actually pay you and you'll have to spend more time with him, which might be a problem if you've got another appt. or some other part of your life to get to.

but if you're pretty sure he's just taking advantage of you, i'd bet it would work.

...this will cause way more one-time visits than need be.   I would guess that most provider business models are built on repeat business, and this will send the wrong message about repeat business.

but i will admit i wasn't 100% clear in my post.

my response as i wrote would be to the guy who has taken advantage of the op more than once already.  it's obvious that guy needs a good metaphorical kick in the pants to get his attention.

of course i wouldn't do that to a first timer.

my response (if i was a hot chick doing this) to a guy when the time is up would be something along the lines of what my atf does to let me know to wind things up:

"so what are your plans for the rest of the day?"

Some good, most bad advice here sweetie. And everyone want to be a comedian. And then throw out a passive aggressive LOL.(still not sure why anyone over 50 yrs old uses LOL We're adult people, we get their stupid jokes)

Like I said some good, mostly bad advice. The bad advice here is that a lot of what they're telling you is SOOOOOO much easier said than done. And most advice is coming from Johns here. Which IMO, can be tainted simply because they are Johns.  
IMHO, I say take advice from providers, they've been there, done that!

I do like , I think it was Imposter who said treat them like a therapist would. But even that's a thin line.

Either way, go with ur gut, and a case by case basis. Good luck!

#justsayin

GaGambler296 reads

As for getting slow moving clients to "get moving" I would have to go with "polite, but firm"

It's just like humor on the GD board, subtlety goes right over some peoples heads. Treat your clients with tender loving care, but first of all you need to get their attention. (yes, just like the mule in the old joke)

If so, just know that if he enjoyed the session, he'll be back even if you make it very clear that he has to be out by whatever time he paid for.

Lot's of good techniques offered above, and I'll add my favorite:

"Here's your hat; what's your hurry.

Posted By: vipbrooke92
I need advice on an issue I've been having more often lately. The issue is clients who know they are overstaying the time they booked and the time they are paying for. 5 minutes isn't a big deal but I think when it's 15 mins + and it's happening every time you see that person then it is a real issue. I have other things planned for my day and I like to keep a strict schedule. Now there are times when I don't have anything specific planned for afterwards and if we are both enjoying each others company and having nice conversation, then I don't have a problem cuddling and talking 30 minutes or more after the end of the appointment. But most of the time my schedule will not allow this.  
  There are a few clients this has happened with. After the first session when the client overstayed, I make a note of it to remember when they book their next appointment. I have even offered a discount on a 90 minute appt rather than an hour. My offer is declined and they still book an hour. Then when it comes down to the appt, they again over stay. Am I wrong to think these clients have no respect for my time? They are all polite and nice other wise and we seem to have great chemistry. But when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of its a real mood killer. Should I refuse to see them again if they can't be more respectful of my time?  Any input is appreciated.  
 XoXo  
 Brooke

GoogleWasMyIdea367 reads

It works really well since

 
- it could be true
- it makes you seem like a well connected, fun, buys person. People like people who have friends
- everyone understands that you can't be late for that  
- everyone knows that's fun, so  pretty much all clients will want to show what a good guy they are by not getting in the wa

Every time I see your name I think of "IInventedPost-itNotes"

GoogleWasMyIdea264 reads

I was just getting warmed up for Google with Post-it Notes. Wait till you see what's next!

something like, "i've had fun but i have to get ready to go meet my friends for dinner/drinks/something"

i know at the time it's bs, but it's a nice way to let me know it's time to go

GaGambler234 reads

Any guy who wants to overstay his welcome will almost certainly respond with "OK great, how about if I join you?"

I think a simple and non committal "I have to be somewhere" would suffice. Or of course you could always add "unless you want to extend our date of course, If you would like to book an extra 30-60 minutes I am sure I could change my plans" I guarantee you he will reach for his clothes and not his wallet given that choice. lol

VOO-doo316 reads

Just kidding! I'd never use that excuse, for that very reason.  

I use either 'dog' or 'class' depending on the time of day...

Or sometimes, I have to pick a relative up at the airport.

I did once (not too long ago) have a guy offer to escort me to my 'class'. Failing that, he asked if he could walk me down to the hotel lobby (it was an incall) and hail me a cab. I finally had to tell him that I had to sh** and would be in the loo for quite a while... not the 'cleanest' excuse but it worked

Or was he?  ;)

Posted By: VOO-doo
Just kidding! I'd never use that excuse, for that very reason.  
   
 I use either 'dog' or 'class' depending on the time of day...  
   
 Or sometimes, I have to pick a relative up at the airport.  
   
 I did once (not too long ago) have a guy offer to escort me to my 'class'. Failing that, he asked if he could walk me down to the hotel lobby (it was an incall) and hail me a cab. I finally had to tell him that I had to sh** and would be in the loo for quite a while... not the 'cleanest' excuse but it worked.  
   
 

souls_harbor330 reads

Oh good lord!  Look at the time!  My pimp will be here any minute!

FatVern232 reads

Change your hourly rate to your ninety minute rate. That way rhey can stay an extra fifteen, and they can feel like they got some extra time for free.

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FatVern216 reads

Not stay over another hour.

VOO-doo340 reads

You can: 1) See them again, and deal with it, 2) Relegate them to 'Only See When Broke' status, or 3) Cut them loose.  

They've shown that they'll pay the minimum, and that's it... There's really nothing you can say or do to make them think, "Oh gee! I've been such an oaf, I feel terrible! I should book a longer date if I'm always impinging upon her time/boundaries." These guys don't have any consideration or respect for your time or business...So, you have to decide what you're willing (or not willing) to tolerate for your 1-hour rate.  

If you tell them they MUST pay for more time, they *might* do it once. But they'll grumble, and probably retaliate somehow by taking MORE time, or being more difficult/demanding/rough than before... or, they'll just immediately move onto another provider.  

A better option than trying to reform clients who've repeatedly disrespected your time, is to tweak your business model/screening somehow, to attract a nicer type of guy. One way to do that is to implement a multi-hour minimum... you could perhaps begin by starting your dates at 90 minutes?  

In my experience, an hour is rarely ever just an hour... I'd estimate that 90% of hourly clients overstay to a greater or lesser extent, and will frequently expect anything beyond the hour (even if they ask you to 'stay over tonight') to be free.

As far as some more immediate advice? I offer a bottle of water at the end of the date... 'Would you like a bottle of water to take with you?' But some guys just don't get the hint, no matter what you say. It's not you, it's them.  

 

 


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LasVegan425 reads

Some of the replies you are getting have been purely for entertainment purposes.  Let's get serious and apply a constructive suggestion to a very common issue.

1)  Does not matter what type of service provider one may be, your clients are the lifeblood of your existence.

2)  No matter the issue, when we deal with a client, the nature of our issue and that person's standing as our client is key, to how we will deal with that issue.  We must try to see things through their eyes, always.

3)  If we truly want to resolve the issue and continue our business relationship with this client, then we must find a tactful, diplomatic, manner to resolve the issue.  If not then, by all means, sever any further contact with this person.

4)  Providing you want to maintain your business relationship with this client, there are so many SIMPLE ways to fix this.  Without blatantly looking at the clock, find a very polite way of letting him/her know you have to; a) be somewhere else, b) run an errand, c) or whatever.  Your demeanor, composure, and language will determine not only the tenor of your rapport with this individual but whether or not he remains your client.

This should not be so difficult, especially for those ladies who find it necessary to fake orgasms, or enjoyment of their sessions with patrons

My new thing  is a lil  smooch  and a pat on the ass   it is baseball season afterall  lol  you paid for an hour  it's now 70  minutes into it   I figure another 15 for you to gussy up so your wife can't smell me  so why in God's name should I in any way feel obliged to drum up a story? This isn't the dating game. I have friends of over a decade who don't pull this shit.  Love them dearly and I mean that. But,  we have an understanding. This understanding never fails. Because it never fails,  we don't fuck with it.  It is tried and true.  Like Dallas said we are adults.  Just tell him like it is.  It's not personal. The intimacy was personal.  Him leaving is just simple life skills and boundaries. Ew who wants to be known as the boundary crosser.

An OG provider gave me this tip once upon a time: having a rules of engagement/etiquette to send (or say, if you're doing this over the phone) to new clients upon booking a session. You can have something in there about ending sessions on time, so that you won't be perceived as a clock-watcher. That way, you're putting your boundaries in place, and the person knows that if he goes over time, he'll have to pay.  

For current clients, I would speak with them directly, and in any polite way you feel comfortable with. Don't be afraid to... again, you're stating your boundaries, and the person should respect that. If you speak with the person and he still overstays, it's up to you whether or not you want to not see him again. I personally wouldn't, because that disrespect might manifest in other ways.

shut the music off, put a robe on or get dressed.  Assist him getting dressed.  Ladies must be excellant time managers & great actresses...  but not let him see you doing so.  Do NOT say you have another appointment with a client.  TACKY!  But you can have any other place to go...  The bank.  Meeting your sister.  Any excuse.    

I have had FAV ladies encourage me to stay & chat BUT the session was over.  WE were well into getting dressed.  We took turns in the bathroom.  She checked her messages.  By 10 or 15 past I was on the road.  And this was by invitation.  I was dressed & ready to leave.    

EVEN IF you have an hour between appointments...  you will want to use the rest room, shower, have something to eat, any yes, Rest.  It's not right for a guy to encroach excessively on your time.

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