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maybe it's the sheer volume of posts in larger markets, but the amount of crap you have to sift through on BP lends to it's bad rep.

Also same providers posting almost hourly is a habit I only see on BP and is a red flag.  

I skim it for ads, especially FBSM, because there are few other advertising venues for massage, but always search contact info for reviews and do image searches to weed out the fakes and robs.  

That said, if my favorite provider appeared on BP I wouldn't think less of her.

I have ads on any and every place I can and I am curious why BP has such a stereotype? I get it some of the girls from there might not be the most high end but for girls like me who live in a location where it's one of the top places to gather clients I don't see why girls who advertise there have such a bad rep. Most of my amazing gentlemen have found me there. But after reading the boards I find that when most people are speaking negatively about providers they refer to them as "BP girls" and as someone who advertises there and doesn't fit the stereotype it's slightly offensive so I was just curious. I have ads on paid "high end" sites as well.

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Posted By: kayla9791
I have ads on any and every place I can and I am curious why BP has such a stereotype? I get it some of the girls from there might not be the most high end but for girls like me who live in a location where it's one of the top places to gather clients I don't see why girls who advertise there have such a bad rep. Most of my amazing gentlemen have found me there. But after reading the boards I find that when most people are speaking negatively about providers they refer to them as "BP girls" and as someone who advertises there and doesn't fit the stereotype it's slightly offensive so I was just curious. I have ads on paid "high end" sites as well.  

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I know several providers advertise on BP and are excellent providers and have great reviews on TER

That's what great about ter I go on BP or any other web site look them up on ter and I now they are legit.

There are many scams and B&S and even LE stings on BP, but there are also a lot of great provides there. BP itself is not a problem. It is nothing more than an ad site. The key is how you use BP. For providers that means what type of ad you place there, the wording, the pictures, the contact info, etc. who are you catering the ad to? For hobbyists it means doing further research on ladies whose ads they find there, and not just calling the hottie based on her picture and rate. In some areas of the country, BP is the best or even the only place to advertise. If it works for you finding good clients, then good for you. Keep using it. For me as s hobbyist I use it all the time and I have actually had some of my best experiences with some BP girls.

In my area most cheaper price, cheaper (as people) girls, bait and switch, dash and runs, show up and their "suite mate" is in the bathroom during your appt, etc. are off BP.  

The ones off P411 or other sites that are more under the radar tend to take it more seriously and professionally. You really never know what you're getting off BP. Its also the easiest way for LE to set up a sting too. So much traffic. In my area I bet only 1 out of 10 that advertise on BP has a review on TER. Its like the wilderness. You dont know whos who or whats what.  Many are trying to break into the business, working with pimps, trying a new city for the weekend, drug habits to feed, end of month rent money needed girls, strippers moonlighting to buy a better purse(lol), etc.  

Overall the girls are lower end and lower class. Thankfully there are exceptions but if you play the odds you have to either wade carefully or stay away from BP.

When will this stereotype ever die?

It makes zero difference where a gal advertises. It only matters if she can be verified to be legit by reviews, bc info and by getting a sense of her stability or personality by her board presence.  

All of that can take place right here on TER but there are other legit sites as well to accomplish this task.

Many "upscale" gals got their start on BP and some continure to use it. Many places, BP is the the only vehicle to advertise on.

Posted By: JackDunphy
When will this stereotype ever die?  
   
 It makes zero difference where a gal advertises. It only matters if she can be verified to be legit by reviews, bc info and by getting a sense of her stability or personality by her board presence.  
   
 All of that can take place right here on TER but there are other legit sites as well to accomplish this task.  
   
 Many "upscale" gals got their start on BP and some continure to use it. Many places, BP is the the only vehicle to advertise on.
Stereotype is stupidest shit I've ever heard.All levels escorts engaging in services for money.

can easily find it anywhere he looks, even on BP. A guy who thinks with his big head first can find awesome ladies there, and ladies can find awesome men. BP is often a point of entry to the 'monde for many people- since the fall of craigslist, it's the most publicly known venue to find ladies (and men and trans*). All press in that sense is good press. lol!  

Smart gentlemen who want to find someone nice to spend time with know to stay away from certain types of ads. I can scroll down a page of BP ads and tell you right off which ones are probably bogus ads, ads for ladies with "managers", silly girls giving it a first go, and which ones are most likely perfectly legit. I can also tell (not that most guys give two hoots) her general socioeconomic level. If you know how to use google image, you'll have an even better chance of finding someone legit. Things you MUST google: her phone number/email address, and her images (especially if she seems to good to be true). And also check her name on TER. Someone who looks like Beyonce isn't going to show her face and charge $150. ;) (And no, Adrianna's probably not doing this on the down-low. lol!!)

Sure- BP may be more work to comb through, but when you get used to it, you can scan a page and click on one or two ads to find someone interesting.  

But a LOT of men chase the dream of Beyonce or Adriana Lima for $150. And really, those guys learn their lessons fast, you hope.

I stay away but would imagine I would derive the same success rate and pleasure factor I achieve on TER  if I put any serious interest into someone new on BP.
 

Posted By: SoftlySarah
can easily find it anywhere he looks, even on BP. A guy who thinks with his big head first can find awesome ladies there, and ladies can find awesome men. BP is often a point of entry to the 'monde for many people- since the fall of craigslist, it's the most publicly known venue to find ladies (and men and trans*). All press in that sense is good press. lol!  
   
 Smart gentlemen who want to find someone nice to spend time with know to stay away from certain types of ads. I can scroll down a page of BP ads and tell you right off which ones are probably bogus ads, ads for ladies with "managers", silly girls giving it a first go, and which ones are most likely perfectly legit. I can also tell (not that most guys give two hoots) her general socioeconomic level. If you know how to use google image, you'll have an even better chance of finding someone legit. Things you MUST google: her phone number/email address, and her images (especially if she seems to good to be true). And also check her name on TER. Someone who looks like Beyonce isn't going to show her face and charge $150. ;) (And no, Adrianna's probably not doing this on the down-low. lol!!)  
   
 Sure- BP may be more work to comb through, but when you get used to it, you can scan a page and click on one or two ads to find someone interesting.  
   
 But a LOT of men chase the dream of Beyonce or Adriana Lima for $150. And really, those guys learn their lessons fast, you hope.

Also I feel the guys from bp are normal guys , prob married do it once in a while not guys with 100 Ter reviews

Back in the day, I'd found some very lucrative clients on there. I would do it nowadays, but too many people I know in my area utilize it to find lady friends that don't know about TER. You just have to weed through a lot of bullshit inquiries, but I'm gonna be honest, I used Eros, and the amount of bullshit inquiries were unreal.

There are lots of great guys who use back page, but also throw in other verifications with it. So Back Page may draw some attention from people who will verify you are legit other ways, like TER. If it's working for them, they're going to keep using it.

Lots of young dudes inquire via back page, I'm realizing. I say if you are going to use it, screw what other people think. I wouldn't put your phone number on there, as you'll get tons of creepy calls. (At least from my experience back in the day.)

Set up a great auto reply that states how to get an answer from you, and other ways to verify you/find out your rates. If they're serious, they will look through it.

I say give it a try for a couple months consistently to see if you can figure out a sweet spot in your systems, don't answer every email - only serious inquiries/polite people, and go from there. As in all places, you just have to know what you're looking for, and how to navigate BS inquiries.

Another thing... if you do try it for a few months, measure how many new clients you get per month, but not serious inquiries just from back page. The reason I say this, is the dudes who don't want to be known as "back page hobbyists" may say they found you via one of the other venues you use. It's another way to get your name out there. There are good and not so good people everywhere.

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BP can be a lucrative venue. I was actually discovered on BP when I first entered the biz. Not knowing what the hell TER and other venues were. The guy called me and said, hey sweetie, I wrote you an review! ...A what?? Still he lingers in my memory..We had an awesome time..

As for Eros, I thought to myself. My name is known a little bit. Let us take it to the next level...A waste of my time and money. For all that post on Eros know that it isn't cheap. Three times I gave them. BP won over 'til this day

I read the stereotype left and right but it doesn't bother me. Cus I won't ever have the need to see what back page is..  

It shouldn't bother you either, if it's working out for you.

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Posted By: NaomiGrey
Cus I won't ever have the need to see what back page is.

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I mostly see regulars, and the occasional hotty that advertises on BP.

I think we have to distinguish between BP-only girls and BP as an ancillary advertising avenue.  

From a safety minded client perspective I want some reviews or record of body of work.  I appreciate the guys who go out there and take one for the team -- hopefully they are single, widowed or divorced.

I think a BP-only girl has got to be a greater risk than a TER or other review site girl who also happens to run BP ads.  They are completely different categories.

The worst (scammers, B&S, rip off artists) are not going to advertise on expensive sites or put a lot of effort into a fancy web site. BP is usually the least expensive and easiest way to carry out their hit and run operations.  Consequently, BP and others who post their get associated with that.  

There are many very reliable, well reviewed fantastic providers who advertise in more than one place, including BP. (If anything, they help to UPGRADE BP's reputation!)  

Anyone "here" (TER) will never rely on an ad only but will check reviews. Good reviews trump the advertising venue.  

If BP is working for you, go with it

That's true, but I think the local bad apples are more quickly weeded out and others are alerted to them without the need to resort to yet other websites or cross checking.

Posted By: cooper80
and so are some apples on ter rotten

Too easy to get into a LEO trap... if a girl is on BP & I can find reviews on her on TER.. all is ok... but no other references.. I won't call her.. no stereotypes at all... just safety

I've seen more than one provider advertise on BP and have ads or a presence on other boards. There a good site that will verify BP ads with TER reviews...that seems to take the worry out. With that said...no reviews, no date.

would only see someone I first saw there if she had a review on TER.. It sounds to me like you've got it covered.

Some people on both sides of this game have their heads up their asses.  The "up-scale" guys look down their noses at the BP ads  as much, or more, than the "elite" ladies, and the truth is  there are flaky guys that use TER, just as there are flaky women that use BP.  I also live in a rural area where BP is the only realistic option and there are ways to make it work well.  It can be a great resource if you do your due diligence.  You may have to be a little smarter to use it but that doesn't mean BP's no good.  FWIW, the only legal trouble I've come close to having was going to visit a TER reviewed lady.

I have found that a large percentage of girls on BP are disingenuous, steal and post fake pictures of girls that are clearly not them and not even close to a fair representation, and are not of the most high quality.  Don't get me wrong, there are some gems on BP, but I would say that over 70 percent fit the criteria that I have stated above.  There are girls who have other advertisements on Eros, personal websites, P411, TER etc and use BP as an additional advertisement source, and I am not referring to them.  I have found girl's pics on BP appealing and thought to myself "this seems too good to be true" to which a quick search on Instagram or other social media sites have confirmed my initial thoughts.  

BP can be excellent source to find local girls at lower pricing , but it needs to be cleaned up.  There are too many imposters, bait and switches, and set ups for clients to be robbed.  For any new hobbyist I would proceed with caution, conduct thorough research, and lastly not think with their little head alone. Again, I don't find anything wrong with using BP as additional advertisement, as long as the provider can be verified through another site.  This hobby requires clients to go jump through hoops, so a client should at least have the ability to verify the provider he is making an appointment with.

maybe it's the sheer volume of posts in larger markets, but the amount of crap you have to sift through on BP lends to it's bad rep.

Also same providers posting almost hourly is a habit I only see on BP and is a red flag.  

I skim it for ads, especially FBSM, because there are few other advertising venues for massage, but always search contact info for reviews and do image searches to weed out the fakes and robs.  

That said, if my favorite provider appeared on BP I wouldn't think less of her.

Ballpark numbers which vary week to week.  

Also LE posting fake ads and responding to ads placed.

LE  also posts on TER. Granted, not as often but it DOES happen.

Posted By: DT_lover
Ballpark numbers which vary week to week.    
   
 Also LE posting fake ads and responding to ads placed.

Do you know anyone that has been taken down in a sting on TER?  Or have you read about a sting originated off TER Mr. Cooper?
 

Posted By: cooper80
LE  also posts on TER. Granted, not as often but it DOES happen.  
   
Posted By: DT_lover
Ballpark numbers which vary week to week.    
     
  Also LE posting fake ads and responding to ads placed.

Posted By: DT_lover
Ballpark numbers which vary week to week.    
   
 Also LE posting fake ads and responding to ads placed.

Posted By: perfectstorm
 
   
Posted By: DT_lover
Ballpark numbers which vary week to week.    
     
  Also LE posting fake ads and responding to ads placed.
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And some of Minnesota's finest and most expensive providers can be found on that site.  I still utilize it, I just google the phone numbers to make sure the ladies are legit (most of them aren't, by the way).  The most common "scam" is fake photos.  But as long as you know how to use it wisely, it can be a wonderful way to connect with someone new and exciting.

In my area, the "BP Girls"-for the most part seem to be just one step away from being on a street corner.  Now, I have found a couple of "keepers" there, but they are few and far between.  It is usually my last resort.

Posted By: kayla9791
I have ads on any and every place I can and I am curious why BP has such a stereotype? I get it some of the girls from there might not be the most high end but for girls like me who live in a location where it's one of the top places to gather clients I don't see why girls who advertise there have such a bad rep. Most of my amazing gentlemen have found me there. But after reading the boards I find that when most people are speaking negatively about providers they refer to them as "BP girls" and as someone who advertises there and doesn't fit the stereotype it's slightly offensive so I was just curious. I have ads on paid "high end" sites as well.  

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I can't speak for everyone else but pretty much all my calls are from there I do also use other sites but anytime I ask that's where they say they saw me .  Everybody can and does look at bp that can be a good things and a bad thing . BUT everyone I meet from there refers to TER to verify who I am

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