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Re: Lessons Learned
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Very good points in this thread.  As Alyson stressed, communication is key in any relationship as Claire tries to accomplish in her counseling sessions.  I'll soon be 57 and have always maintained monogamous relationships through the course of my life.  However, since I started Hobbying four years ago I don't think I could ever be faithful to one woman ever again.  As was pointed out, the variety sure is nice from the same old vanilla sex I may get after the fun of the sex fades in a relationship after a couple of years.  While I have tried to be communicative and express my desire to my previous partners they either get comfortable with the relationship, aren't communicating their feelings back to me or when I suggest counseling they might be uncomfortable with that.  

So while I would still like some full-time companionship I certainly am filling a void with the beautiful woman in this Hobby and enjoying the best sex of my life.

Just watched some show the other day on prostitution etc .  
One of the girls said to the ladies who are watching the show ,
" ladies dont deny your man sex , if you will we wont "

I thought this to be an interesting line  
So now my question is , since you are in this line of work  
How do you deal with your boyfriend or perhaps a husband at  
Home who you love . After all after a day of sex when you come  
Back home you may need to satisfy your mans needs as well. .

And i know many of you may be single , but one of these days may decide to have  
Your own family etc .  

So knowing what you know now about life , men and sex .
How does this effect your personal life and how would you look at men in general ?

GaGambler450 reads

In some of the relationships she "always" had plenty of gas left in the tank for me. In others she almost never wanted to have sex after a full day of fucking and sucking other guys. In others it was somewhere in between.

I have actually broken up with a couple of hooker GF's because they were always too tired to have sex and I felt like I was the only guy in town NOT fucking my GF. That is not a very happy place to be, but fortunately they were the exception not the rule, most of the working girls I have dated were very cognizant about taking care of business at home.

I do not CONTROL my Fantasy boyfriend's dick. I am not willing to accept the total responsibility for servicing him and being All things to him.  I gladly welcome him to relieve his pressure on any girl that is willing, ready, and able.

In my real life I have a man and a job as a sometime couples therapist - yeh I know funny huh? This job has taught me sooooo much about men.  
I went to an all girls school,and had only sisters and my dad kept my mum and us in line using his size and his loud voice. I left home at 17 thinking men were idiots. Since doing a psych degree but more importantly since starting this work at 24 I have come to realise that men are much misunderstood by women. We have our friends, our social skills, our ability to deal with emotions, shoes and handbags hahaha but men are brought up without much of this training. I find you in general to be much more emotionally vulnerable than women who are pretty pragmatic on the whole.
What I try to explain to women is that for men sex is a pretty vital ingredient in life. It's how you release stress, show love to women you love - it's as essential as eating and drinking and if you're not getting it at home you'll look elsewhere. Masturbation is like an omelette but sex is full steak and chips with a beer on the side and who wouldn't prefer that?
Coming to see a lady like us gives men the opportunity for the steak and chips, but also men tell me things they've never told anyone else. It's counselling and therapy only naked.
I have so much more time for men since doing this because I've heard all your inner thoughts, feelings, fears and hopes over the years and so many of you are hard working, family loving, loyal good hearted guys who should,be way more appreciated than you are.
I tell women in my counselling job that denying sex is like telling a man you don't love him, or appreciate what he does.  
Even if I've had enough sex in a week to last me a lifetime I go home and act my heart out if necessary to give it to my man because I love him and I want him to know that.

Did you ever asked yourself and why it is let's say Russian men, Muslim men - never do hear word No from own women? ( or way less then american man would hear)

I would say - they do not put pressure on woman to perform and have big O s from his sexual skills  

He just wants sex - quick and he did not tasting on her his self esteem self realization his ego would not suffer if she would not come - he actually do not care if she did come or not. He cares about his own pleasure leaving woman in her own world -
HE LIVES HER TO STAY IN HER OWN WORLD thinking whatever she concerns at the moment and not gave to him all herself - she is free actually -  
He is not demanding for her TO BE PRESENT mentally during the sex - she can still think about house kids etc  
She can even do nothing during the sex - he will do it all  
All she needs - gave him her body - that is soo easy for a woman!  
Yet your american wives have to deal with your demands even in bed and the fact that you establishing your ego through sex performance - is just ugly - and expecting her act as if she is ToTALLY like your sex - women - just whatever - go to hookers  
Sex has to be just for sex not for boosting own egos and control  
Women as up to me - never are tied to the point that she can not be taken - even if she sleeps - you still can penetrate her - just for god sake - gave her space! Let her dream what ever she wish while you are doing it - may be she will have orgasms may be not - that has to be less of your concern - get your own orgasm - she be happy  
American men can't get it and performing performing performing working hard even in bed!! Hard workers!  
I always smile and deny those who write me -
"I work hard and I play hard" and I say I want all to be easy and fun elegant and non controlling
Try not to press your wives in to sex FOR HER - just say you need it - she will give it to you if she has empathy for you and some love left

Be more poets, artists.. buy her flowers and presents NOT expecting anything in return Spend calm relaxing time outside of house with her even if it is hiking in mountains or park -even if sex is as written in red letters on your forehead - women do not want to know that - you have to be more tricky - woman thinks you love her for her personality and her interests and her hobbies is fascinating for you - let her think yet kiss her more often - touch her more often listen her and then just take on the coffee table while she talks about her hobby may be she will orgasm as well - yet that should not be the way that you are using your manhood tool as a screw drive to fix her and through that feel mental satisfaction - I am a MAN - made my woman come twice!  
When woman feels this pressure she would say you NO I am tied
Women simply getting to orgasms - during the act -woman can not be sure she will have it so when she is EXPECTED to have - she rather would say - No thanks - I am tied  
Be more selfish in sex and  you will never hear word NO -
Just tell her - I need 5 min and you do not have do anything :) and I am soooo love your body to the point my body hurts - help me - give me - I will do it gentle

NoYellowEnvelope386 reads

If that's your best advice, my advice to you is to keep it to yourself.  

As a provider who undoubtedly sees men who have SOs, you need to understand that many of those men love their SOs and are seeing providers only because their SO is incapable of giving them the intimacy they need, often because of emotional, psychological, and/or physical disabilities. Notice I said intimacy, not sex. If we only wanted to empty our nuts in 5 minutes, we could do that without the help of a provider.  

It's not about ego and making our SOs have Os. It's about treating the women we love as something more than a hole in which we deposit our cum, whenever we feel like it.  

Posted By: Pavliena
Did you ever asked yourself and why it is let's say Russian men, Muslim men - never do hear word No from own women? ( or way less then american man would hear)  
   
 I would say - they do not put pressure on woman to perform and have big O s from his sexual skills  
   
 He just wants sex - quick and he did not tasting on her his self esteem self realization his ego would not suffer if she would not come - he actually do not care if she did come or not. He cares about his own pleasure leaving woman in her own world -  
 HE LIVES HER TO STAY IN HER OWN WORLD thinking whatever she concerns at the moment and not gave to him all herself - she is free actually -  
 He is not demanding for her TO BE PRESENT mentally during the sex - she can still think about house kids etc  
 She can even do nothing during the sex - he will do it all  
 All she needs - gave him her body - that is soo easy for a woman!  
 Yet your american wives have to deal with your demands even in bed and the fact that you establishing your ego through sex performance - is just ugly - and expecting her act as if she is ToTALLY like your sex - women - just whatever - go to hookers  
 Sex has to be just for sex not for boosting own egos and control  
 Women as up to me - never are tied to the point that she can not be taken - even if she sleeps - you still can penetrate her - just for god sake - gave her space! Let her dream what ever she wish while you are doing it - may be she will have orgasms may be not - that has to be less of your concern - get your own orgasm - she be happy  
 American men can't get it and performing performing performing working hard even in bed!! Hard workers!  
 I always smile and deny those who write me -  
 "I work hard and I play hard" and I say I want all to be easy and fun elegant and non controlling  
 Try not to press your wives in to sex FOR HER - just say you need it - she will give it to you if she has empathy for you and some love left  
   
 Be more poets, artists.. buy her flowers and presents NOT expecting anything in return Spend calm relaxing time outside of house with her even if it is hiking in mountains or park -even if sex is as written in red letters on your forehead - women do not want to know that - you have to be more tricky - woman thinks you love her for her personality and her interests and her hobbies is fascinating for you - let her think yet kiss her more often - touch her more often listen her and then just take on the coffee table while she talks about her hobby may be she will orgasm as well - yet that should not be the way that you are using your manhood tool as a screw drive to fix her and through that feel mental satisfaction - I am a MAN - made my woman come twice!    
 When woman feels this pressure she would say you NO I am tied  
 Women simply getting to orgasms - during the act -woman can not be sure she will have it so when she is EXPECTED to have - she rather would say - No thanks - I am tied  
 Be more selfish in sex and  you will never hear word NO -  
 Just tell her - I need 5 min and you do not have do anything :) and I am soooo love your body to the point my body hurts - help me - give me - I will do it gentle

We women  want intimacy no less then you men even more- women mostly do not separate sex from an intimacy as men do - so when man is intimate with her other wise - she would not have ANY problems  to give him a quick y  
 of curse in more advanced age  intimacy becoming even more pessary then anal sex - it is why I said always  that at certain age man needs look a companion which provides more intimacy then let say anal sex.

I spoke about younger couples dear. Those where wives yet not disabled emotionally or physically - Iam not saying  that it is a case in ALL American families - but .. but darling not everyman so good as you - and women yes becoming  emotionally disabled and then physically..

I am also love intimacy more then sex - as matter of the fact for it is the same - no need inches to be satisfied.. - yet I do not mind gave to my man and quick when he needs that - and it is as intimate as it can be - only between true intimate people  those 5 min  of sex are not as dumping  sperm . You spoke as you not took in equation intimacy !!!  Who's fault ?? No my !!  
There not more intimate woman then I am .. yet I  have very clear view and never let anybody to damadge myself emotionally or physically ..I feel sad for all women who need do sex with no true connection and love to her partner.
 You sound as one ,an who does separate by some reasons  sex and connection.. why it is ?  How to connect it all? How I amy help you?  

 You can share you life story with me privately by emailing me  to :

[email protected]

 
Would be happy to take a look how to help you with   advise how  to find true intimacy and sex and not to separate it.

Love  
 



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Most of my gentlemen lovers are all happily married and are looking for that intimacy that they may be lacking at times in their relationship.  They love their wives and sometimes don't want to burden them with requests.  Also, there may be some things I am happy to perform for them in bed, that their wives may not want to indulge in.  I am more of their best friend, confidant, therapist and naughty partner in crime.  A truly no strings attached/no drama solution to their needs...at a price.
And I am happy to oblige.
Passionately,
Frederica

I'll have to be the bad boy here.  I just like the female body.  Nobody done me wrong in my two marriages, sex wise.  It's just that certain females catch my imagination.

Posted By: Naughtyfrederica
Most of my gentlemen lovers are all happily married and are looking for that intimacy that they may be lacking at times in their relationship.

It is completely Natural for males to want to fuck Every Beautiful female.  The older a girl gets, the more she will accept the whole idea. There is No Controlling the cock. She , on the other hand, will learn to be responsible for her orgasm and learn to verbalize exactly what she wants. Males will learn (when she does)  the evolution of female pleasure.

It's wonderful gentlemen like you that make this industry exciting and fun!
Passionately,
Frederica

I think there may be more relationships, here in the USA,  like that, than we are willing to admit.

What's your 10 minute rate ... lol

I like your International perspective. There were times that I could have used the quicky strategy during my marriage. The same can be said with hobby time.  

Occasionally, I "want" my date to cum and I can see that it can put pressure on her to perform instead of having her get what she wants out of the interlude.  

Aaaah .... expectations. This post made me think and that's why we're here

ValuedCustomer175 reads

But honestly, I think it's worth figuring it out and is probably one of the more interesting points of view I have read around here.

And - Pavliena's English is a lot better than my Russian....  

Nice post!

Well, I'm single at the moment. The day I decide to start a family, will probably be the finale for 'Kenya'.  

Being in this line of work did open my eye a bit more on men. Not in a bad way. A more experienced way. I've learned that men need just as much attention and affection as women. You all like to be thanked for the things you do as well as acknowledge on the smallest gesture.  

While I was in a relationship a few years back. The men wasn't so verbal on their feelings. So, I took this as you all are more comfortable with a women that seem to be comfortable with your wild escapade. As for the wife/GF is just a Virgin Mary whom keep house and home in tack. Bringing all that into play, my lover, or husband will learn that I'm his slut and loving wife.  

And if I'm too tired for sex... I'll just give a BBBJ ;-

I know that after I DATY my pulse is right up there.

I know a few gals that say after a long BJ:  I'm tired out.  What if you just finish up now in mish?

I can't blame them

For myself intercourse is a lot more work on the body

VOO-doo348 reads

Then there are two possibilities: 1) There's something wrong in the relationship, or 2) I'm feeling unwell, physically and/or emotionally. Or possibly 3) He's just bad in bed (or we're incompatible in bed), which luckily, I've never had to contend with.  

I dated a client during one of my busiest times, when I was new and working for agencies. I ran all over NYC all hours of the day/night, and had to deal with some very difficult clients... some of them were REALLY not the pleasantest people. Some were rough, some were drunk/high... so sometimes, yea, I just didn't feel like dealing with another dick at the end of the day (or at whatever ungodly hour I got home and craved sleep). However, that's kind of an extreme circumstance.  

When I stopped wanting to be with my last ex, it was because I'd fallen out of love with him, and my heart wasn't in the relationship. I still liked his company and found him attractive, but the spark had just gone out

noagenosage230 reads

Very interesting thread.  I know a number of couples, now seniors, where either there is a mutual slackening of interest, or it's stronger with one than the other, or, most often, disinterest due to menopause or sexual boredom but where mutual affection still lives.  Most common situation seems to be where the woman goes through menopause and loses interest and the man still wants to romp.  Hence one of the reasons why the hobby thrives.  What do y'all think?

Indeed, last week a gal on the Boston Board was proclaiming a new found zest for sex just after her menopause kicked in.

Made me feel horny just to read about it

and these are mine alone, not projecting here and not grouping.

I love sex, if I could be happy and have it often I would.  Also, it turns me on that guys find me hot, sexy, and skilled enough that they want to spend their hard earned money on me.  So to me sex has value in my life.  I know what it is worth, and I never want to just give it away to someone who doesn't deserve it.

If I am in a relationship and my partner male or female(I date both) is being a dick, it is a turn off and I don't want to fuck.  If my partner wants to argue with me and won't let up, not turned on and I am not into makeup sex so don't want to fuck.  If they are great, we are happy with maybe a few missteps in the day and both want to then hey we are getting laid.  But personally I am not having sex with someone, anyone if I feel they don't deserve me.  I have some kick ass toys if I need to get off, but I don't feel the need to fuck someone who is being a asshole to me ever.  And I do not enjoy makeup sex.  If I am mad, I don't wanna get laid, period.

Again just my take.  I am turned on by being made to feel valued be it that I am paid or it is an emotional valued with a partner.

I doubt that there would be so any of us here..  
I have never understood the thought process that a wife may have in saying that sex in marriage is over.. then she gets angry if the husband see's others? please..  My wife has no idea.. but when we were about 50 (15 years or more ago).. she said no more... don't bother.. so eventually after more than ten years I turned my interests elsewhere and now have no sexual feelings at all for her... she's a roommate.. I pay her bills.. that's a good deal.. If she doesn't like that too bad..

My SO never really liked sex... we discussed sex before we married & she was deceptive...  she had 2 children under 10.  It was a second marriage for both of us & I thought I did due dilligence.  If I'd known the way it was going to go, I would not have married her.  Sex was a once a year occasion (by appointment only)...  when we did, she seemed to enjoy it... until about 10 years ago when it stopped.  I was not ready to be celibate.  So I decided to do what I had to do.  
If she was willing, I'd not be hobbying.  

I should add that when we slept in the same (king) bed...  there was no touching allowed!  If I moved towards her in bed she'd move away... She'd nearly fall out of bed to avoid contact.   No kissing, no cuddling, no hand holding...  in short no intimacy at all.  I really miss it, not just the sex.  She changes behind locked doors...  God forbit I might see a glimpse of skin.  
I was sleeping in the same bed specifically to be intimate, even though I have a lot of back pain.  After several years of rejection, I started sleeping elsewhere with less pain.  

I actually got more sex in 5 years with my ex who hated me...  but was smart enough to do sex once a month, to string me along... as long as I was paying her bills...  Than current wife of 27 years...  just plain sad.

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