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A provider and client have set a date, had the date, and now client wants to gain access to P411. He chooses 2 providers to be his references and requests their OK's. The client is semi new to the hobby, but has a few reviews under his belt. The client utters nothing about passing along a review for the provider.  

Should the lady give her OK and say nothing about a possible review? or should she mention to him, that a review would compliment the P411 OK?  

what steps have the well seasoned community taken to get them to their destination?

Thank you,
Mon

JakeFromStateFarm248 reads

If he is an established reviewer or is building his review base, he'll do one anyway.  If he does not write reviews, he won't even if you ask.

Posted By: mona38
or should she mention to him, that a review would compliment the P411 OK?  
 
Do you mean writing something like, "I'll happily provide a reference/OK for you with P411.   By the way, I would appreciate you writing a TER review for me!" ..... is that what you mean?

Because even mentioning the idea of him writing a review when he's asking for an OK could possibly be interpreted as some kind of manipulation.  Someone could read it as "yes I'll give you an OK.... IF you write a (positive) review for me"..... trading OKs/references for a review.   You know, review manipulation.

Even though you absolutely did not intend it that way, there might be someone who perceives it like that.  ;-)

My advice is to just provide the OK and not mention anything about reviews.  :-)

HTH

careful that you're not manipulating, but its a business, and there is no free lunch.  Asking for a review is a reasonable and businesslike quid pro quo for the P411 okay, IMO.  As you say, there should not be a suggestion that the review has to be a certain score, and/or positive.  That would be the risk the provider would have to take in asking for the review, but most that have been in the game for awhile can tell by the vibe when the guy is leaving whether or not he enjoyed himself.

I have never asked anyone for a review. I don't even mention it prior to, during, or after the date.

Normally, whenever a client has asked for an Ok, it was after a review. A new client may not follow suit.  
My question was merely out of curiosity and to make sure to use proper protocol.  

Yes, you are right that it would be a form of manipulation, but wanted to be completely clear

GaGambler235 reads

Much like "I will give you a whitelist for a positive review" both are considered review manipulation and technically could get you de-listed.

Keep in mind, writing a review at this stage of the game is every bit as much in his own interest of gaining credibility as a monger as it is in your interest to receive one. I would not recommend tying the two together, if he genuinely was a safe and respectful client, you should give him the reference "no strings attached" if he was not, then you'd be lying to give him a reference and "shame on you"

GaGambler181 reads

assuming of course you can OK him in good conscience.

"yes sweetie, I would be more than happy to act as a reference for you. BTW If you really enjoyed yourself with me and if you have the time, a review of me would be greatly appreciated"

This way you give a unilateral yes to his request, WITHOUT tying your request to any reciprocal action on his part.

I do agree that accepting a P411 OK request is at the discretion of the provider, but if the client was safe and respectful, as GaGambler mentioned, then there should be no reason not to accept the request REGARDLESS of whether a review is involved. Delaying the OK until a review is posted or making the OK even seem contingent on the review is NOT good practice. All of my OK's have come before my reviews are posted and I typically don't even mention I will write a review until the review is posted.

being asked for a review when I've decided not to do one. The service may have been great but if you showed up late and a bit drunk, I don't give a shit, I'd have to include those things in your review. That's why I don't want to write one because anything negative might turn a few guys away and end up hurting you. Explaining why you were late in a review won't help because just being late gets you on several DNS lists. I'll offer to write one if I can. The P411 OK's and reviews are two separate things. I'd be pissed if you gave me the impression that getting a P411 OK was tied to doing a review for you. I had a provider PM recently and she demanded that I write "her" a review because she "deserved" it. She's still waiting and will be - forever.

Jacks_Acolyte137 reads

don't do research on the ladies you see and they have a habit of showing up drunk or late or both? And here I thought, based on your fan club, you were a true expert in this field. Shame on me.

There is nothing wrong with asking a client for a review. I don't review every time I meet someone, but I certainly do if asked.

It is also entirely at the discretion of the provider to provide an OK on P411 or other reference site. As reviews are not required, so are OK's not required.  

Does the mere fact that a client has asked for an OK mean that a provider should not ask for a review, out of fear it will be deemed "Manipulation"? Who asks first is "safe"?

So long as the two requests are separate and not contingent upon one another, there is no impropriety.

definitely report you to P411. It is not an exchange..

Posted By: mona38
A provider and client have set a date, had the date, and now client wants to gain access to P411. He chooses 2 providers to be his references and requests their OK's. The client is semi new to the hobby, but has a few reviews under his belt. The client utters nothing about passing along a review for the provider.  
   
 Should the lady give her OK and say nothing about a possible review? or should she mention to him, that a review would compliment the P411 OK?  
   
 what steps have the well seasoned community taken to get them to their destination?  
   
 Thank you,  
 Mona  
   
   
   
   
   
 

Posted By: mona38
A provider and client have set a date, had the date, and now client wants to gain access to P411. He chooses 2 providers to be his references and requests their OK's. The client is semi new to the hobby, but has a few reviews under his belt. The client utters nothing about passing along a review for the provider.  
   
 Should the lady give her OK and say nothing about a possible review? or should she mention to him, that a review would compliment the P411 OK?  
   
 what steps have the well seasoned community taken to get them to their destination?  
   
 Thank you,  
 Mona  
   
   
   
   
   
 

My first three escorts never asked for a review.  

And if someone asked, would I narc on them? Holy crap no!  What is this, third grade???

I just wouldn't write a review if it was going to be less than positive.  I might write a warning review if something was really drastically wrong.  Hasn't been an issue yet, I had three nice providers so far.  I assume my luck will continue.

Speaking of reviews, if they are positive, the provider (especially those who watch the clock) should consider that a guy might spend 30-45 minutes composing a nice review.  So if time is money, they should maybe be a little understanding when we overstay by a few minutes.  :-

JakeFromStateFarm198 reads

While I do agree that few girls have asked me for reviews, I think you are betraying your fellow mongers for refusing to write anything but a positive review.  Maybe you'll learn when you see a girl with all positive reviews who's a total rip off.  I get it that writing a negative review can have repercussions.  If you're worried about that, review her under your alias.  This alias will do that, if needed.  My handle will only write positive ones.  See how that works?
Also, if you expect OTC time for writing a review, she'd better know that up front.  But TER frowns (as it should) on bargaining a reduced rate (cuz that's what it really is) for a positive review.
It's called a pay-off.
Based on this post I'd bet there are a few gals out there who won't see you now.  Another good argument for an alias.

No, it was just a general comment about the ying and yank of precise clock watching.  None of my first have had an issue with time, and I've gone over twice (due to poor time management on my part.)

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
if you expect OTC time for writing a review

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