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Clients:  
Do you tip your providers if they provide a quality experience for you?
If so , is there a certain percentage of the base fee you tip based on the quality of the experience?

Providers:  
What Percentage of Clients Tip?
What would you consider a bad, good, great tip as a percentage of your base fee for the date?

I tip everyone. I have given as little as 40 bucks to as much as 120 in this hobby it depends on how much money I have in my pocket at that time. From being a waiter to working and depending on tips I can tell you straight up it's usually the people with the least amount of money who tip the most and go out of the way to help people in need. It's also these people whose tips make you smile bigger than you will ever know if you haven't worked and lived off tips.

 

Posted By: 1shotperhr
Clients:  
 Do you tip your providers if they provide a quality experience for you?  
 If so , is there a certain percentage of the base fee you tip based on the quality of the experience?  
   
 Providers:  
 What Percentage of Clients Tip?  
 What would you consider a bad, good, great tip as a percentage of your base fee for the date?

But that's nowadays. Back in my agency days I received tips around 25% of the time.  Can't remember how much, though.  

Posted By: 1shotperhr

 Providers:  
 What Percentage of Clients Tip?  
 What would you consider a bad, good, great tip as a percentage of your base fee for the date?
These days, I get gift cards far more often than cash tips.  No matter what amount he paid, it's most often $50 worth.  

The highest percentage cash-tip I've received was double my rate amount.  That's on top of the rate, so that'd be 200%, I think?  
Yet again, I was told there would be no math here!!!  LMAO!

The lowest is $5 but  that's when my rate has ended with a 5.  Like if I'm asking 325, and he gives me 330.  ;-)

I do not expect cash tips or gifts of any kind.  If you're asking me to meet you earlier than my listed hours, I hope you'll offer to bring me a coffee, but that's not EXPECTED, either.  So ANY gift or tip is a "good" one.  

Oh no wait.... there have been items that were presented as gifts that really weren't gifts and were NOT good for me.  When you bring me gift-wrapped handcuffs, butt-plugs, or fresh produce because you want to use them on me?  Yeah, that's really a gift for yourself, IMO.  ;-)

 
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You Crack me up with your direct responses and humor.  
I am going to have find cheap air fare to Chicago

What if I got you a bowling ball with my name on it? Would you call that a gift that's really for me?

I do that round up thing a lot. If the request is x80, just round to the next Benny. I've done x25 to x50. I don't consider that a tip though, since it's before the service. I also will leave some more on the table on my way out sometimes. The best is when she never moved it initially and I put the tip on top of it, folded separately so she knows it's a tip because I was impressed. I'm certainly not in Tubbo's league though. I don't tip everyone.

Gambler, I would agree but she can't see meπŸ˜”

I'm not sure why, they provide a service just as waitress or bartender, whom I tip well.

I guess I'm not sure of how much of a percentage, and also I feel as if providers make much more money than a waitress or bartender who count on tips as part of their income.

So, not really sure why I take this stance. But, my envelope is always correct, and I never try to negotiate.

GaGambler389 reads

I will occasionally tip a girl who goes over and beyond the call, either by extra time or enthusiasm, depending of course on her actual rate. I am much more likely to tip an agency girl that charges $250 hr than an independent charging twice as much, but there are always exceptions.

Lol what a title. This could be a thread all on its own.

Gags aside, seriously with respect to billing. High level providers and very high level attorneys will bill at 600/hr. But here's a difference: the attorney will be billing more than 1500, likely more than 2000 hours a year. The provider will almost certainly not.  

And here's another difference. When a provider performs services for a client, it's usually 1 or 2 hours. Very rarely will a provider work so much as double digit hours for a clieny. Lawyers, however, are the opposite. Very few legal matters are resolved in mere hours' time.

Which is not to say providers aren't doing well for themselves, I'm jusy pointing out that you have to look at more than just the billing rate. You have to look at the billed hours.

Anyway, I tip but not much, 10% or less and for 1 hr sessions, never more than 50. I do like to give gifts, it feels good to give a pretty girl gift

Posted By: russbbj
I'm not sure why, they provide a service just as waitress or bartender, whom I tip well.
Well, your entire tab doesn't go to the server, only the tip. A provider's payment is agreed upon (or just set by her; I never negotiate either) and she gets all of it... it's kind of like, if I'm in a metered taxi, I tip, but not if a flat rate is agreed upon with the driver instead.

That being said I have on occasion felt compelled to throw money at girls... without a doubt the best I've ever had wasn't in USA, the price was so low I ended up giving her like 5x as much. Still worth it

I agree, I may round up the fee, but if they provide good service, and I enjoy their company, I call them back. This is just like Massage Therapists... If they are at a spa, I will tip as I know they don't set the rate nor do they get all the money. If they are independent, I feel no need to tip. They set their rate so should be happy with what they get. If they are good, I will repeat. Or if the provide more, and I wasn't expecting it, I will tip. But I love Deep Tissue work and don't always look for BodyRubs. Sometimes I just need a good massage.

Now the question is do i tip massage therapists at a Chiropractor's office..

I do have trouble with the concept of tipping someone who makes five to ten times my own hourly rate even though I understand there may be a lot of down time between clients.  Similarly I have never tipped my lawyer or my accountant, and they get paid per client as well.

In my experience, probably 1 out of 20 guys tip.
Anything extra is very much appreciated, as I'm providing a service much more personal than waitresses or bartenders. I'm actually surprised more people don't tip, especially the ones that have very precise requests, or when I stay 20 minutes over making sure they are 110% happy.  
I don't consider any extra amount a bad tip. People should stop assuming all providers have so much money,  and just tip if she exceeded your expectations! You don't know her situation, she might be supporting her family.  If she made your day, why not make hers? Just my view on it.

I rarely tip indies charging $400+, as GaG says, the same as a lawyer.  However I always tip agency girls, because they are usually on a 60/40 split with the agency at a much lower rate,  so $50/hr is much appreciated by them, still bringing me in at $300/hour including the tip, but representing a 33% tip of the portion the girl gets to keep.  Never fails to get the best an agency girl has to offer.

Good point about agency vs independent. I think im going to start leaving extra when i see someone through an agency/aamp.

I'd say about 25-30% of my friends leave something extra (that's going on my last 10 engagements, 3 left something more). Some bring me gifts. Some do both, goddess bless them. Their $ generosity ranges from 15% to 20%. I am grateful for any tip or gift or extra show of kindness I get, but never expect it. No such thing as a bad tip or gift. :

ValuedCustomer291 reads

The general idea is to provide motivation to serve since the employee does not directly benefit from the business.   Further - most restaurant or service employees in the US (where there is an expectation) are essentially paid from tips as a matter of custom.  Their actual wage rate is ridiculously low.

If the person providing the service is setting their own rates - a tip is absurd.  The motivation in that case is repeat business - which is something an employee (as opposed to the business owner) only benefits from in a very indirect manner.   You might be able to make the argument that an agency girl should get tipped - but not an independent.  

You can't have it both ways - you can't demand respect from me as an independent woman operating a small business and then expect me to tip you as if you were just some minion who doesn't have any control over her business..

Welcome to the 21st century but you keep doing you! and I do tip my massage therapist  who owns her own business. same with the nail tech who owns the biz! ;-)

Steph

GaGambler358 reads

If I go to a bar and the owner is bartending, I am not going to stiff him just because he owns the joint. Nor am I going to stiff the woman who cuts my hair just because she owns the shop.  

Now where it comes to providers, I am less likely to tip a woman who I feel already has her tip built into her rates, but that's a far cry from not tipping her because she owns the business

is personal service.  It doesn't matter if the "owner" or independent is the one providing it.  Like GaG says, haircut, manicure, massage, shoe shine, etc., are all personal services and should be tipped just like a waiter at a restaurant.

ValuedCustomer292 reads

Such as bartenders - it is customary to tip a bar-tender.  I also tip the guy who cuts my hair - and he does own the place.  It's customary to do that and the fee is arguably set to include it as part of compensation.  You could probably come up with some more exceptions.

However, the general rule is a good one; there needs to be a positive reason to tip when the business owner/professional is involved.  I don't tip my Doctor or my lawyer or my accountant.  All of which provide services of great personal value to me.   My urologist, for example, regularly conducts considerably more personal and intimate service than any provider I have ever seen... though I do understand there are people who are into that... google cystoscopy and "sounding" for more information...

If a provider is going to represent herself as a professional (as many do..) - then she needs to have the same expectations of any professional or business owner:  Charge the fee you want for the service.  The customers will pay it or not

the doctor example and compare it to a provider.  Its not the same.  A doctor (or a lawyer) requires a substantial college education and a professional license issued by a government agency.  Even though your manicurist, barber and masseur/masseuse are also licensed by the state, they provide a personal service that warrants a tip, IMO.  Its just good business for the customer and may get you scheduling priority or better service in the future.  Providers are not regulated or licensed and in that respect don't have any of the protections that other personal service providers have through licensing or regulation.  (I would argue that they should be, but that's for another thread).  It just seems incongruous to tip a massage therapist and not a provider, when the latter provides a much more intimate and fulfilling service for most of us.

be it actual cash, a gift card, sent a gift card or gift, etc etc etc.

With one timers, (I've only had 4 since July of 2015 come back only once) they generally don't tip. The tippers are usually the guys who are coming back regularly, and like the VIP type treatment. i.e. their emails even just saying hello are answered enthusiastically, freshly, and they're getting accommodated well.

They also show up to a really nice suite, with bells and whistles like their drink of choice, snacks etc. So they know I'm not cutting corners in costs and accommodations - I think people see that, and want more of it. But it's really more with guys who are coming back often, not really the guys who are planning on one visit...

C

I dont really see the need but then again i have yet to repeat with anyone.

In one meeting i put an extra 20 in by accident and didnt bother taking it out. I dont consider ~7% a tip lol.

I work part time for tips, but my hourly is dismal. I dont view providers as "working for tips" in the same sense that waitstaff/delivery do. Escorts (for the most part) set their own prices. If they expect more then they should charge more to begin with... nobody deals with hagglers anyways.  

Maybe ill tip if im a "regular" and i start to feel somewhat finacially responsible for the girl... but at that point maybe im getting too carried away with it. Ill cross that bridge when i get to it.

As far as nice gestures go id bring a gift before ever even considering extra $$. One is thoughtful and personal and the other is lazy and - in my opinion - meaningless.

I repeat. That's how I tip

Posted By: 1shotperhr
Clients:  
 Do you tip your providers if they provide a quality experience for you?  
 If so , is there a certain percentage of the base fee you tip based on the quality of the experience?  
   
 Providers:  
 What Percentage of Clients Tip?  
 What would you consider a bad, good, great tip as a percentage of your base fee for the date?

I have a rather high donation for my area so obviously, I do not expect tips. I'd say if I do get tips, generally they are from gentleman who are traveling from other parts of the country or if I am on tour. Many times it is an extra gift with the donation but sometimes (more often at home), I receive gifts. I'd say overall tipping is probably around 25% but that can fluctuate.  

I would never say a tip was bad. My only sort of pet peeve is when someone brings flowers to an appointment. It's not terribly discreet and you can't hide it in a gift bag or briefcase like something else.

Posted By: 1shotperhr
Clients:  
 Do you tip your providers if they provide a quality experience for you?  
 If so , is there a certain percentage of the base fee you tip based on the quality of the experience?  
   
 Providers:  
 What Percentage of Clients Tip?  
 What would you consider a bad, good, great tip as a percentage of your base fee for the date?

I don't like gifts either, but they bring them.

I've gotten tips sometimes but think of it this way:  

A person working a 9 to 5 makes 10 to 15 bucks an hour..  

I make my rate an hour so It makes my life a lot easier than those people's. Those people have their life and days planned out, meanwhile I'm making probably their weeks pay in an hour of passion. I have a lot of hobbies due to this commodity. This is why I don't complain or ask for more. I'm happy.

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Thank you for getting it.  

Zak

Posted By: NaomiGrey
I don't like gifts either, but they bring them.  
   
 I've gotten tips sometimes but think of it this way:  
   
 A person working a 9 to 5 makes 10 to 15 bucks an hour..    
   
 I make my rate an hour so It makes my life a lot easier than those people's. Those people have their life and days planned out, meanwhile I'm making probably their weeks pay in an hour of passion. I have a lot of hobbies due to this commodity. This is why I don't complain or ask for more. I'm happy.  

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have had about 50% that have tipped.

Of those it ranges from 20-100. One of my friends gives 100 each time we visit.

I never expect tips, but do feel like they are a way of saying, I made them happy above and beyond 😊

I have had some friends also bring gifts, a birthday cake ( which we shared together ) and dinner because I couldn't get out.  

On the same note, I have bought birthday cakes, small gifts and even once a $50 bottle of booze for a few that have been very gracious to me

$50 for a decent experience and $100 if I really really like the service.  For a hit-and-run, nada....

Posted By: 1shotperhr
Clients:  
 Do you tip your providers if they provide a quality experience for you?  
 If so , is there a certain percentage of the base fee you tip based on the quality of the experience?  
   
 Providers:  
 What Percentage of Clients Tip?  
 What would you consider a bad, good, great tip as a percentage of your base fee for the date?

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