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and I do have day rates..  However with my favorites I am willing to cut down my day rate to 1500.  If I have to be away from home and my family I can't do it for under a certain amount.  Now there are also a couple other factors that I might be willing to work with to make it lower.  Those factors are:

Will I have my own room?  With my own room I get to sleep by myself without someone waking me up all night, I get better sleep and am not cranky, or rather having to cover up cranky which sucks.  Also geet to have the time I sspend getting ready by myself for a hour or 2 every day, I also get to be "human" and don't have to be as worried about things in my own space.  I will discount for my own room and time to myself every day.

Are we going somewhere I want to go?  Alot of these trips are to places the guys already have in mind which is fine, I am sure it will still be a great trip.  However if we are going somewhere I REALLY WANT TO GO then I will also discount for that.  Sometimes that can just mean going somewhere warm in the winter or someplace less humid in the summer.

Am I booking my own room/air?  If I am not comfy enough with you to share my real full name with you then I need to book my own room and air which means I would need that before booking it.  Some are ok, others are not ok sharing.

My thoughts for 7 days would be to offer 7-10k minimum unless she REALLY wants to go where you are going and you are booking her air and all.  Have heard of girls getting much more as well as others who ask less.  However these are the minimums I would consider with even my best and most favorite regular guests.  Might me more if I need to book my own air and have to be on 24/7 for a less regular guest.  

I am sure some will chastize me for saying so much.  But honestly if I want to go away I would rather pay for it myself and go with personal friends.  While I like quite a few of my guests it is unnerving sometimes to spend a length of time with someone you really only know well between the sheets.

xtc4unme2357 reads

I've been considering asking a provider to travel with me on holiday later this fall and she has intimated that I should come up with a number for her compensation. While I definitely want to be fair, perhaps even a bit generous, I have no concept as to what appropriate compensation would be for a week's travel that also includes the expense of flights, hotels, restaurants, sightseeing, shopping, and other sundries. We quite enjoy spending time together and I am loathe to offer a low number that might give insult or too high a number that may hinder my ability to entertain her properly as she deserves. Suggestions?

Nothing wrong with asking, instead of suggesting a number that might be perceived as offensive. Hugs 😘

xtc4unme220 reads

I think she's uncomfortable giving me a specific amount. She may not want to go too high and put me off my plan or go too low and discount herself.

GaGambler244 reads

She wants you to go first, you want her to go first. It's much to your advantage to insist "she go first" for the very reasons you cite.

they know if they go to high many guests will be miffed and not even counter, heck he may even think "that money grubbing whore" and stop seeing her altogether.  If he goes to low she may think that cheap ass!

the fact is the guys for the most part want as much as they can for the least that they can, best value for the $.  I get that.

the ladies want to get as much as they can because spending 24/7 with the guys and consistantly out in public as well as between the sheets is a fuckload more "work" then 3hrs between the sheets straight!

 
When she dosen't have a going day rate or you think the person might be negotiable, best to see it as negotiations.   Your best bet is to ask her to please just put out a # and you guys can negotiate from there.  If the # is to high make her an offer you can live with.  If she comes in lower then you thought then bonus for you.

If we wanted to just make what we could at home with 2-3 appts a day, most providers would rather stay home where they will still have at least 15hrs to themselves.  Some would rather go and only have to spend time with 1 guy...  

Depends on the lady but also depends on the guy and how he approaches it.  The provider as well.  Also maybe ask if she is really into going, if she wants to visit that area and all as well as if she gets her own space at all.  That can make alot of difference in the price/value of the session for her.

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I have had opportunities to double up with other providers just because her inability to quote a donation amount. Poor business skills. She has to develop her hooker math skills.

GaGambler228 reads

It's funny, now that I live in a town with virtually no hookers, I have entered into the "sugar" world where there are no posted rates and I now have to do this little dance with every new SB I meet.

For the record, I still see hookers on what most people would think of as a very regular basis, about once a week or so, but I am used to getting laid at least every other day, I have no desire to get an actual GF, and I am not going to even pretend I can pick up enough civvie girls in a town of only a hundred thousand, so Sugar Babies are my best alternative  right now.

I do agree that she most likely needs to go first, the biggest problem I see for him is that if she thinks she is being "underappreciated" it might put a damper on their fun. and being with a woman for a solid week that feels underappreciated is no fucking picnic. lol

NoYellowEnvelope120 reads

For example, when I asked a provider if she'd join me for a weekend out of town, I knew she had no published rate for that. So I asked her what she thought was fair. Her response: $800, plus I'd cover her flight and all other expenses. Her reasoning was that, at that time, she didn't take clients on weekends so she'd only miss 2-3 hours' work on Friday because of the trip. She wanted to be covered for that time. I thought that was logical, and very reasonable.  For my part, I tried to make it like a weekend getaway for her, not let's-have-non-stop-sex.

bonordonor278 reads

I would suggest her 2-3 hour rate multiplied by the number of days you'll be travelling. At least you'll have some reasoning to your number if she gets offended.

xtc4unme180 reads

Interesting thought indeed. Much thanks!

bonordonor124 reads

You could suggest she could work a couple hours a day while you're at the strip club.

There are a number of providers which advertise daily rates.  That would be a good starting point.  This particular subject (like most subjects) has been raised before on the board - you might want to do a forum search.  My observations from previous discussions -

1.  Baby steps - try an evening;  try an overnight;  try a long weekend.  You may find that you are not nearly as compatible with her as you think.  You may find that you get along great!  Who knows?  Bad idea to find out that you loathe each other after two days...

2.  Establish boundaries and expectations - it is a really good idea to determine/negotiate these things up front.   You (or she) may find that you really can't make it work regardless of price

Depending on if the hourly rate is $250 or $500.
You must cover all other expenses of course, but her shopping is her dime.

It can be a blast with the right person.  I presume you two have done at least an overnight with each other.  If not, I would caution against this

Posted By: mrfisher
Depending on if the hourly rate is $250 or $500.  
 You must cover all other expenses of course, but her shopping is her dime.  
   
 It can be a blast with the right person.  I presume you two have done at least an overnight with each other.  If not, I would caution against this.  
   
 
I take it you also believe most have Masters degrees from top schools. The travel fees you read about are just as silly as "exclusive" "VIP"  "highly educated" etc. They are on their web pages so some dupe will think people drop 10K a week plus expenses on them. It's part of the IMAGE they are marketing.

Some of the ones at 500 per hour can't get 5 tricks a week. Paying 5-10 grand plus expenses for a trip is for suckers who don't know any better.  

Find out what the rent on their hovel is and that's your offer. If it's some place they want to see and the rent is due, they take what they can get.

JakeFromStateFarm118 reads

Now tell us about your palatial estate.

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and I do have day rates..  However with my favorites I am willing to cut down my day rate to 1500.  If I have to be away from home and my family I can't do it for under a certain amount.  Now there are also a couple other factors that I might be willing to work with to make it lower.  Those factors are:

Will I have my own room?  With my own room I get to sleep by myself without someone waking me up all night, I get better sleep and am not cranky, or rather having to cover up cranky which sucks.  Also geet to have the time I sspend getting ready by myself for a hour or 2 every day, I also get to be "human" and don't have to be as worried about things in my own space.  I will discount for my own room and time to myself every day.

Are we going somewhere I want to go?  Alot of these trips are to places the guys already have in mind which is fine, I am sure it will still be a great trip.  However if we are going somewhere I REALLY WANT TO GO then I will also discount for that.  Sometimes that can just mean going somewhere warm in the winter or someplace less humid in the summer.

Am I booking my own room/air?  If I am not comfy enough with you to share my real full name with you then I need to book my own room and air which means I would need that before booking it.  Some are ok, others are not ok sharing.

My thoughts for 7 days would be to offer 7-10k minimum unless she REALLY wants to go where you are going and you are booking her air and all.  Have heard of girls getting much more as well as others who ask less.  However these are the minimums I would consider with even my best and most favorite regular guests.  Might me more if I need to book my own air and have to be on 24/7 for a less regular guest.  

I am sure some will chastize me for saying so much.  But honestly if I want to go away I would rather pay for it myself and go with personal friends.  While I like quite a few of my guests it is unnerving sometimes to spend a length of time with someone you really only know well between the sheets.

I've known a couple of girls who were happy spending a week in Hawaii for the cost of their monthly mortgage or apartment rental.   And of course all other expenses paid.  Seems like a practical approach to me.

which does drive the price down.   I have to say you got an awesome deal though.  But then I am not a huge fan of Hawaii(it is ok, been to 4 of the islands and not dying to go back to any of them) so maybe it is just me.

GaGambler172 reads

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I have to admit, that while I would never go along with things like separate rooms, etc. that really is not what the thread is about. Your major point about what is a "fair" price to pay I have to agree with. We are talking about her missing an entire week's worth of work and she can't pay her bills with shopping sprees or fancy meals.

When you break it down $7,000 is only a thousand dollars per 24 hour day, I don't know too many women who offer a 24 hour rate that low.

I still stand by my original advice that he is much better off letting her set the price as she may very well say that her bills while she is gone amount to $2-4 grand for the week, but I can't disagree that if we are talking about a strictly business arrangement with her accompanying him at HIS request, I have to agree your number sounds quite reasonable.

it is because when it comes to day trips I would rather not.  Not to say I wouldn't but I would have to make more then my overnight gifting which is do get fairly regularly for a day rate for it to be worth it to me.  Unless certain aspects played in.  I am friends with and do have OTC meals or add "perks" for my regulars so I know the value of friendship and catering to guests.  I just would rather go away on my own terms or not at all.  

I have been asked several times to go away on trips and to this point all possible takers haves said it was to much.  that is fine with me because I would rather not.  Not that I wouldn't, but I certainly won't if I don't think it is worth it to me.    

For you, you may have women who are all over going on a trip for next to nothing just because they want to go.  Hang out y your side and have you in passion filled arms every night...  that is great!  You found what works for you.

the flip is that ALL providers cater to what they WANT to offer.  I would rather cater to shorter meetings then longer ones.

I was pointing out if he HAS to make an offer then don't go crazy low hoping she will bite unless you don't care if you ever see her again.  OP did not even say he had a great longstanding friendship with said lady, so I was going from a trying not to lowball a lady who he doesn't have an amazing friendship with already

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Posted By: GaGambler
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I have to admit, that while I would never go along with things like separate rooms, etc. that really is not what the thread is about. Your major point about what is a "fair" price to pay I have to agree with. We are talking about her missing an entire week's worth of work and she can't pay her bills with shopping sprees or fancy meals.  
   
 When you break it down $7,000 is only a thousand dollars per 24 hour day, I don't know too many women who offer a 24 hour rate that low.  
   
 I still stand by my original advice that he is much better off letting her set the price as she may very well say that her bills while she is gone amount to $2-4 grand for the week, but I can't disagree that if we are talking about a strictly business arrangement with her accompanying him at HIS request, I have to agree your number sounds quite reasonable.
 Even if she turns two tricks a day at 500 bucks for 5 days she only grosses 5K. Out of that figure 30-40% goes to overhead. That leaves her with 3k-3.5k net.  

Just because some girls advertise 3-5k a day for companionship does not mean they are getting it. If he pays her say 500 a day she is better off than if she has to stay home and turn 10 tricks.  

Companionship rates are for show! What the girl wants and what she gets are two different things. I'm assuming they know each other and it's someplace she wants to go.

GaGambler123 reads

I plainly said that IF this was "strictly a business arrangement at his request"  

You are admittedly making very different assumptions so it's no surprise you are reaching a much different conclusion, one that even I will admit "IF" I were making the same underlying assumptions as you, I would most likely come up with similar numbers.

lo ball her.  she can counter-offer.  If she is insulted and breaks off, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

in telling her how much you can afford
 Why she would be offended by he fact that you are not wealthy?
It is rather you have to feel bad then her.
 Not she would offer low number:) but you  

I always believed that man take initiative in own hands and woman or agrees or decline.

G gambler  advice may work as well :) ( smile - for men ) as many woman yes as in this old russian joke  
" girl i will pay you 500 to see your panties"
 and then  
"how much would cost me to take you to bed ? and swear would be 300 "

:)

You price your own existence - who you are .  and what kind of woman and experience you want to have.

Why to come to public and humiliate yourself and her asking your own price on john board?  

She is reading and she knows exactly who you are.
 Keep board posted if she will go with you after all?  
After you was not able to see a woman in her and handle as as man should.
 It is very easy to guess who is who in our little community.  
..
As want to share with you one song of my homeland .. enjoy !!! I very love music..
And dance .. and romance. Money should not be discussed at all .. you should know her means to deposit for all.  
Try once  to be a man and have  the best time in your life..  set a bit from money- service stereotype..
 real men never is buying and should buy woman's love. And her love is her body - Ultimate gift woman cn give to men - herself. Not for all life here- so it is even more valuable  that so many women  find it possible to spend time with you gentlemen,  
 Please listen this girl voice and for once - open your hearts and sing with her .. Love would be so sweet.

http://youtu.be/VouDm1IiZPE?list=PLCF07E953C32C747A

 


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http://youtu.be/g2noSlzwmTc

She sings - Vesna ( Spring ) brings love:)

I doubt that any normal human would sing how Springs brings happy sex services .

About what your heart is singing in spring? Do you feel you heart at all at times? I hope this song will  make your heart to beats faster .. It is as in Cheery bloom in DC .. I by some reasons  have a nostalgia for my country beautiful  songs and  beautiful language .. do you know  that they say that when Ukrainian Russian women talk - it is as mermaid are talking ? Many my male friends just stated learn Russian and Ukrainian .. yet I did re learning  German again-  
here NOT A PRETTY UKRAINIAN GIRL HERE - YET JUST KAREL GOTT yet woman who dances - easy can imagine - it how I look :) and dance by the way:)  

https//youtu.be/nxEIt-_Y9i8


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My favorite Russian song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAPd1491X8
 

Posted By: Pavliena
http://youtu.be/g2noSlzwmTc  
   
 She sings - Vesna ( Spring ) brings love:)  
   
 I doubt that any normal human would sing how Springs brings happy sex services .  
   
 About what your heart is singing in spring? Do you feel you heart at all at times? I hope this song will  make your heart to beats faster .. It is as in Cheery bloom in DC .. I by some reasons  have a nostalgia for my country beautiful  songs and  beautiful language .. do you know  that they say that when Ukrainian Russian women talk - it is as mermaid are talking ? Many my male friends just stated learn Russian and Ukrainian .. yet I did re learning  German again-  
 here NOT A PRETTY UKRAINIAN GIRL HERE - YET JUST KAREL GOTT yet woman who dances - easy can imagine - it how I look :) and dance by the way:)  
   
 https//youtu.be/nxEIt-_Y9i8  
 

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I would be content with $500 per day .  I like vacations to tropical destinations. If we are tight enough to travel together and none of the trip is on my dime I am cool with $500 per day so I am not out any money.

I had a FBSM gal...  who offered extras once you got to know her... & clearly expected extra for them.  but would not say what she wanted for said extras.  
It was very uncomfortable to be put in that position...  I didn't want to over pay but figured if I went too low, the door would hit me in the ass on my way out...  and I wanted to see her again.  (Which I did for 6 years)  
I with tip it was about equal to the rate for typical FS gal in my area at that time.

I thought' no hands in the air.

There is a happy median where the provider can visit a place she is interested in and the guy can have some company as well.

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