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in St. Petersburg with a favorite friend over two days. We had lunch at a lovely French brasserie, went to a museum, had some fun, went to dinner, had some fun, went to breakfast, had some fun, toured St. Pete, had lunch, had some more fun, and ended with dinner and the movies, then more fun. It's a great way to spend a fantastic time with someone you find you have a lot in common with. I have also been on many trips here and abroad, to the super bowl, to conferences, shopping, many, many museums, operas, concerts, hiking, diving, dinner cruises, art exhibits, weekends in NO, VT, NM, AZ, SD, SF, LV, DC, and the list goes on. One of my favorite weekend trips was 4 days in London with a special gent who booked a couples' massage or some other spa treatment each day for us. That was special. That spa was unbelievable.  

These encounters require that there's more between you than a physical connection, however. You will absolutely LOVE your extended engagement with your friend if you find you have a lot to say to each other, and have a fabulous time in each other's company. Enjoy!!

I've always wondered about what goes on during multi-hour dates.  I'm talking 3+ hours.  I know dinner dates are the meal and playtime but what about longer dates?  Do you go shopping, sports events, concerts, museums, or something else.  Yah, I know you leave plenty of time for fun.  Also, am I correct I'm guessing that the hobbyist pays for almost everything?

The reason I ask is that it's coming up to one year with my goto regular at end of May.  I'm leanings towards a dinner date but it may be more.  Thanks!

D.

Lots of a dinner date still feels timed, if you ask me. My packages jump from 4 hour dinner date to "6 to 8 hours". So if you're deciding between a 4 hour, or more, depending on the jump in price, a 6-8 hour may feel less timed, in case of delays at the restaurant, traffic, etc.

xoxo

C

That's pretty much how all of my extended dates have gone - (I have a karaoke date coming up soon lol!)

You just hang out with your friend, and the added bonus is you get to fuck her, and she's hot. Think about it this way - when you go out with your BFF's, you don't really have to worry about a schedule of events. Any vacation I've ever been on that has been mapped out with tourist events, and even scheduled sex at this time that time blah blah is annoying and boring as fuck. Way too chop chop for me.  

It's not about where you're going, it's about who you're with. Some of the best times I've had with a man were simply sitting on the sand and watching the water, feeling the breeze, and talking about deep shit. (After hitting up the bars lol)

I can still remember one dude singing on the shore and in the underground tunnels as loud as he could - I was like "SHHHHH! SHHHHH! SHHHH!" but I was cracking up, and he was mad. Oh god, fun times. Makes for a great laugh two years later lmao.

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Posted By: Courtney.Ova
Lots of a dinner date still feels timed, if you ask me. My packages jump from 4 hour dinner date to "6 to 8 hours". So if you're deciding between a 4 hour, or more, depending on the jump in price, a 6-8 hour may feel less timed, in case of delays at the restaurant, traffic, etc.  
   
 xoxo  
   
 C
LOL. Yes, why stop at 4 hours when you can work a sap for 6-8 hours! :) If the poor sap gets stuck in traffic or the table is not ready on time bleed him for more money. Bleed them dry!

NoYellowEnvelope450 reads

Spent most of Saturday seeing the sights... bracketed by other fun. :)  I paid for everything, including her plane trip.  It was worth every penny.  

Great way to celebrate your one year anniversary.

I have windsurfed in Mantauk
Made maple syrup in Vermont
Beatles festival on the the River
Weekend sightseeing in DC
Red Sox at Fenway
10k River Run weekend
Numerous dinner dates, shows, museums, hockey, foot ball, baseball, soccer, concerts
I love all of them
I have dinner dates at my place
He cooks at his
There are many wonderful thoughtful kind and sexy men , thank goodness!
And I am having one in just a few weeks, and I am very sexcited!



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I have had the pleasure of going on....

*Lunch/dinner dates
*Movies
*A few tours
*A day of fishing
*A concert
* Walks on the beach
*A picnic in the park
I have a special date set aside for this weekend for a planned out meal cooked for me, which I am looking forward to.

Plan something around each of your interests and enjoy your day/evening as you wish.  
There should be no out of pocket expenses for her, unless it is for something completely unrelated to the date itself

I pretty much always stick to 1-hr sessions because it just doesn't make sense to me to blow all that much dough at one time, instead of spreading it out more prudently.

That said, on a couple special occasions I have done it, and yeah it's awesome. You have time to really enjoy and explore the full extent of her physical pleasures AND the fun, sexy personality she brings. (If she's not a gal with a great personality, then don't even)

And she'll enjoy pretty much whatever you want to do (unless you're really weird), you've got this fantastic babe on your arm, it's really really good times.  

I just never do it because, you know. But I would if I could!

And yeah of course you pay for everything. You're a gentleman!

in St. Petersburg with a favorite friend over two days. We had lunch at a lovely French brasserie, went to a museum, had some fun, went to dinner, had some fun, went to breakfast, had some fun, toured St. Pete, had lunch, had some more fun, and ended with dinner and the movies, then more fun. It's a great way to spend a fantastic time with someone you find you have a lot in common with. I have also been on many trips here and abroad, to the super bowl, to conferences, shopping, many, many museums, operas, concerts, hiking, diving, dinner cruises, art exhibits, weekends in NO, VT, NM, AZ, SD, SF, LV, DC, and the list goes on. One of my favorite weekend trips was 4 days in London with a special gent who booked a couples' massage or some other spa treatment each day for us. That was special. That spa was unbelievable.  

These encounters require that there's more between you than a physical connection, however. You will absolutely LOVE your extended engagement with your friend if you find you have a lot to say to each other, and have a fabulous time in each other's company. Enjoy!!

Hate to be a curmudgeon on all this, but that's a pretty expensive fantasy.  A person can provide sex and be friendly in the process, but if money is being exchanged, friendly does not equal friend.

Of course even in sex, if you think someone really lusts after you, there is that ego component that makes it all the more enjoyable.  But nonetheless, sex has a mechanical/physical part that you can actually rent.

Friendship, not so much

Posted By: lester_prairie
Hate to be a curmudgeon on all this, but that's a pretty expensive fantasy.  A person can provide sex and be friendly in the process, but if money is being exchanged, friendly does not equal friend.  
   
 Of course even in sex, if you think someone really lusts after you, there is that ego component that makes it all the more enjoyable.  But nonetheless, sex has a mechanical/physical part that you can actually rent.  
   
 Friendship, not so much.  
   
 
I'm sure there are lots of mongers here who can afford it. When I first started I saw one girl who was 2K for three hours. It was not a great experience. If you don't hit it off in the first hour it does not get better in the second or third hour.

You are right. Sex is easily "rented." True friendship is neither rented or bought at any price

your repsonse is kind of like saying man that ferrari is pretty expensive considering i can drive a hyundai for much less.

spend what you can on whom you can.  good on ya.  we are all enjoying each other, it's the name of the game.

let those of us who can afford over nights and weekends enjoy the company of beautiful women who enjoy us.

because as many of the women here have pointed out, you have to have more than a sexual connection for these kinds of dates to work.  just spent an overnight with an atf of mine, and am still reeling over the sexiness, playfulness and closeness we achieved with each other.  

it is what it is, friend.

I meant that I AM at a point in life where I have the discretionary cash to do extended dates. I pay for sex not some fake friendship.  

Of course the girls are going to tell you they love extended dates. They would rather make 2-4K off one trick on an overnight than 4-500 for an hour.  

You are right about one thing. It is what it is: 90% of these girls have boyfriends or husbands. You will never be close to them in the real world. They use fake names and fake "real names." Their backgrounds on web pages are mostly faked. It's an academy award winning performance.  

Maybe it's all real to you. I guess that's all that matters.

GaGambler325 reads

BPJ wants to believe EVERYTHING a hooker tells him, including how much she "likes him" while charging him twice the rate of a decent attorney just for the privilege of spending more money on her by taking her out to dinner and shopping and paying for the privilege of watching her eat and sleep.

and then on the flip side of the coin we have OTM who I bet would not even bother to grab an umbrella if a hooker warned him that it was pouring outside because he just KNEW she was lying to him.

I have to confess, I think OTM is closer to the truth than BPJ, but which one of them is having more fun? I think the answer to that question is pretty obvious as OTM is exactly who the BSC hookers are talking about when they call mongers "angry and bitter" I can't think of anyone with less respect for the women he sleeps with.

Posted By: GaGambler
BPJ wants to believe EVERYTHING a hooker tells him, including how much she "likes him" while charging him twice the rate of a decent attorney just for the privilege of spending more money on her by taking her out to dinner and shopping and paying for the privilege of watching her eat and sleep.  
   
 and then on the flip side of the coin we have OTM who I bet would not even bother to grab an umbrella if a hooker warned him that it was pouring outside because he just KNEW she was lying to him.  
   
 I have to confess, I think OTM is closer to the truth than BPJ, but which one of them is having more fun? I think the answer to that question is pretty obvious as OTM is exactly who the BSC hookers are talking about when they call mongers "angry and bitter" I can't think of anyone with less respect for the women he sleeps with.
Not true. I am very polite with the hookers I see. I respect them as a fellow businessperson and acquaintance. I have no reason to be angry or bitter at the girls. It's no different than a stage play. You can still enjoy it knowing it's just an act.

You can still enjoy it while also recognizing it is fake.

I love Star Trek. I do not actually believe we are seeing accurate depictions of the 24th century human race.

So yes, I know that the reason she wants to go on trips and extended dates is because it's a huge paycheck for her. That knowledge won't prevent me from enjoying the concentrated and abundant bliss that is an extended date.

Rather, it's my bank account balance, generally speaking, which prevents me from such enjoyment

I can suspend disbelief for the BCD time since I'm getting sexual pleasure out of that. I could never suspend disbelief for dinner dates or overnights.

I disagree... If you are great at what you do, like I am. Any length date is a fun experience.

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Not a habit, but I've done a some.  Here's how one went:

Picked her up a the train station and drove her to her hotel.  Unload, she checked in while I parked.  Up to the room after getting the number.  (Weird, because I just saw her.)  Got stoned, mutual shower, nookie,.

Went for a short walk around the historic part of the town, since it was summer and dusk.  Went to dinner to a nice place where I had a reservation.  Age difference showed up here, she might have been happier at a crab place rather than white linen.

She forgot her phone charger at home.  Took a drive looking for open CVS, buy a charger. Back to hotel and park.  Another round of nookie, left at midnight. (better that way, I'm a snorer)

5 pm to 11:30 pm.  Rate same as 2 hour session.

Two, three hours these days, feels like one hour, it flies by. You can do the same thing on multi-hours that you would on a civvy date, or what you'd do with friends.  

Personally, I love 6-8 hours and overnights because it seems that with the connection we end up having, there never is enough time. And yes, the gent pays for everything though if we are out having drinks after dinner for example, I may pick up the tab, like I would with when other friends are in town.  

Blessed to make the money that I do and really, I am happy and grateful to be able to spend that 100 bucks, or whatever it is, to return the kindness.

I enjoy extended dates 3hr+ I have done these type of dates many times.
I just added a 3hr Happy Hour Package which is a different rate from my regular 3hr package.It is a lower rate factoring in the amount of public time and private time.
In my happy hour pkgs usually it is meeting at a lounge or bar while getting acquainted.
Or catching up if it is a gent I have seen before.Sometimes grabbing a bite to eat or room service in the room if he is worried about friends/colleagues.
On a 5+hr date or my clock-free date(doesn't exceed 12hrs) I have done pool dates hanging out at the pool for a couple of hours.Enjoying a couple massage at the hotel spa some private time then off to dinner and a show.Then back to the room for private time.

There are so many things to do on extended dates depending on where you are located.
I have done helicopter rides,concerts,dinner,lunch,shopping,comedy shows/cirque de soleil shows.
Yes the guy pays for everything.
I enjoy these dates with gents I am meeting for the first time as well as a new friend.
Enjoy and have fun time flies when you are really have a great time with awesome company

might just have to check this out next time I'm in Vegas.

Posted By: jaydalee
I enjoy extended dates 3hr+ I have done these type of dates many times.  
 I just added a 3hr Happy Hour Package which is a different rate from my regular 3hr package.It is a lower rate factoring in the amount of public time and private time.  
 In my happy hour pkgs usually it is meeting at a lounge or bar while getting acquainted.  
 Or catching up if it is a gent I have seen before.Sometimes grabbing a bite to eat or room service in the room if he is worried about friends/colleagues.  
 On a 5+hr date or my clock-free date(doesn't exceed 12hrs) I have done pool dates hanging out at the pool for a couple of hours.Enjoying a couple massage at the hotel spa some private time then off to dinner and a show.Then back to the room for private time.  
   
 There are so many things to do on extended dates depending on where you are located.  
 I have done helicopter rides,concerts,dinner,lunch,shopping,comedy shows/cirque de soleil shows.  
 Yes the guy pays for everything.  
 I enjoy these dates with gents I am meeting for the first time as well as a new friend.  
 Enjoy and have fun time flies when you are really have a great time with awesome company.  
 

I prefer extended lunch and dinner dates, and "clock-free" evenings.  

It all depends upon what you enjoy... I like being out and about a bit, getting to know a companion and DOING something. Plenty of sexy time can be built into a longer date.

Inevitably, it is easier to generate greater anticipation, closeness and intimacy when you have time to relax and have fun together. It can definitely make BCD time more intense.

Just MHO

Often we just do things like massage, cuddle, or chat between round one and two.  Sometimes I'd bring over some take out food and we'd have a nosh between rounds.  Once I made a lasagna and brought it along.  I got an extended stay place so we could heat it up.

Yes, the guy is generally the one to pay for any extracurricular activities

I'd never tell a young child that Santa isn't real, so I have similar concerns discussing this topic.  I'm not trying to bust anyone's fantasy, no matter how improbable.

We are sociable creatures, so of course a provider can develop friendly feelings toward a client just like anyone else.  No one doubts that.  But by their own policy, expressions of friendship (OTC for instance) are forbidden.

If you hire a plumber and while he/she is on the job, you might get to talking and find you have a mutual interest.  If you meet later in regards to that mutual interest, no one in a million years would expect you to have to pay the plumber rate for that time.

So why would you pay a sex worker for non-sex time?  Because they wouldn't go with you otherwise.

If you separate the plumber from social activities, you have a new friend. If you separate the sex worker from social activities -- you dine alone.

So I would say, pay the sex worker for sex, and then give free tickets or whatever to civie friends.  They're just as likely to have friendly feelings toward you, and not require payment to hang out

It's nice that there is at least one other person in this thread that gets it. You are right. Some of these guys act like little kids who have just been told there is no such thing as Santa.

The girls are pissed because the truth spoils their game and cuts into profits.

There is a big difference between an acquaintance (the plumber and a sex worker) and a true friend.

GaGambler273 reads

Not that there is no Santa and certainly not that paying someone to be your friend is MUCH different than her actually being your friend.

I disagree that you two are the only ones that "get it"

I also disagree that you can't be friends with someone you are paying to fuck. I have had a lot of hooker friends where we combined P4P with friendship. Unlike the manginas here, I pay for sex, not "time and companionship" I have had several hookers where we actually enjoyed each others company but had no desire to become BF/GF. We'd keep the lines from being blurry by me paying for sex, but everything else was OTC. The most common arrangement would be for her to stop working early, have me as her last appointment at say six or seven in the evening, I'd pay for an hour session, we would fuck for an hour, and then go out to dinner, the movies or whatever just like any two friends would do, and there never was any thought about it being on the clock.  

I will agree, paying a hooker to be "friends" with you by paying her thousands of dollars for dinner dates, overnights etc, yet thinking you are "friends" is delusional at best.

Posted By: GaGambler

   

 I will agree, paying a hooker to be "friends" with you by paying her thousands of dollars for dinner dates, overnights etc, yet thinking you are "friends" is delusional at best.

Well, at least we agree on something.

Speaking for myself of course.  I get paid because your wife or s.o. is the woman who you go home to.  You pay me so when the date is over I go to my own home. I don't blow your phone up about bullshit.  I don't nag you to put wd-40 on the door hinges. I don't call you hysterically crying at 2:00am  because I miss you. You're exempt in my world on all holidays.  You don't have to take me on a vaca twice per year. I never give you THE Look or tell you to lay off the booze.  

It's all about your joy when we're together and then I don't exist until you need a dose of joy again. Some people just like their joy to last longer

extended engagements, they understand how to create chemistry. They understand how to entertain someone over several hours or several days. Not only do they know how to do this, they enjoy it. If they didn't, they wouldn't offer.  

I know many ladies who can think of nothing more awful than having to spend extended time with the same guy. I was that way when I was a stripper- I hated when guys would want dance after dance after dance. There are only so many moves you can do!  

But as a companion, I adore extended time with someone. One of my favorite things about doing this is meeting fascinating people from all walks of life. I love getting to know people and learning what makes them tick. I love learning about their lives, their passions, their desires, their favorite things. It takes me a looooong time to get bored with someone, and luckily that doesn't happen as Sarah.

We are humans interacting with each other. A gift we have is the ability to love many people at once. One lady's name here is even PollieAmorous in honor of that. We also have the gift of not needing the extended connection that comes with a traditional relationship. The men who spend extended time with us are very similar. They don't need to take us home. They love what we have within the boundaries that it is able to take place. The envelope is the boundary. Take that away and the precious balance of this wonderful, special relationship unravels. It's a magical relationship, and it's very existence depends on the envelope.

When you go to the movies with your civvie friend, do you get to hold hands and canoodle? Do you think about what will happen later, knowing that you'll end up entwined in your friend's arms and legs? Feeling the anticipation? That particular and exquisite pleasure is worth every penny to someone paying for it.  

One of my relationships is going on it's 15th year. He's married- very happily- and over time we have developed a very sweet, wonderful relationship. I can't wait to see him when we plan time together. Not once has he ever suggested taking the envelope away- nor would he ever. Someone who would suggest that needs to stick with paying for sex, and doesn't belong in the world of extended engagements.

You're paying for sex; men who like extended engagements pay for time. There is a difference. And there is nothing wrong with either route to fun! It's whatever makes you happy

NoYellowEnvelope237 reads

... I don't give a flying fuck what activities you do with "sex workers" and how much you pay them. So why should you care what others do and how much they pay?

If you want to view providers as only rental pussies and nothing more, that's up to you. I pay them for their time, not $X per sex act.

Right now, I've got a handful of guys I see from time to time who only do longer dates.  

On a first date, it's usually much like a civvie date, except  that, like Julie Roberts said.... I'm a sure thing. ;-)
So a couple hours of chatting, maybe having drinks or a meal, followed by more chat leading into a long makeout session and then...... good, clean, nekked fun!! :-)

But with repeat visits, we usually start off with playtime THEN order room-service or go downstairs to the hotel restaurant/bar.  Or stay in the room & cuddle, possibly even take a nap together.  Then chat, watch TV or a movie, and back to playtime.  Very relaxing & intimate.  

Others change it up from one visit to the next and often don't stay for the entire time they booked.... they just like to "reserve" me for the day or afternoon. ;-)

Only one current client spends the majority of our time in some sort of sexual activity.  4-6 hours of mostly playtime!    
HOT, hot stuff.... but exhausting.  :-)

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Nooner: A sexual encounter during lunch hour; especially one that is illicit.

Sometimes we'll take a break and go out to eat, but room service is often the better option. There's usually some time spent napping after some vigorous physical activity.  

But yes, you're paying for everything. You should look at it like she's your companion for whatever you want to do (within reason), so who gives a fuck what others do on their dates - do what YOU want to do, indulge your fantasy (suggestion: a hotel/spa package is a nice, sexy partnered activity)!

ValuedCustomer314 reads

Yes - you are correct, you will pay for all activities.  Given what you are probably in for to begin with - that shouldn't be a big deal.  Yes to all of the above for activities you might get into.

My experience is that dates beyond an hour happen at discounted rate;  when you get out beyond three or four hours and involve outside activities, the discount gets substantial - and very negotiable.   Negotiable does not mean haggling - it means discovering a mutually acceptable scope, schedule and fee.  Outline a schedule/itinerary of what you have in mind to her;  suggest a fee.  If she sees you on a regular basis (and she can stand the idea of spending an evening with you), she'll either accept it or counteroffer.   On the other hand - if she checks the clock every three minutes during your session and starts you in the process of getting out the door fifteen minutes early - you might want to rethink...

My standard BCD is three hours - four hour with doubles;  it just takes me that long to have the experience I want to have - and, as a side benefit, I get better service and priority booking that way... To me an extended session is one that involves non BCD activities. I have only done extended dates with providers I have seen before.  And I don't do them often.  

Typically I will schedule an evening date (or some other activity) which will last five or six hours or more for the four hour rate.  And to me - it's a lot of fun taking a hot woman out on the town or wherever and KNOWING that I am going to get lucky at the end of it.   I get to chat her up and treat her like a lady, romance her a bit; lots of fun if you are into it.  If she's good at her job - she'll play along.   And neither of you take it seriously - what's not to like?  Everyone needs a little romance from time to time.

 I have done one overnight (and one that turned into an overnight). I personally don't recommend it;  I think you lose some of the "magic" that way.   It's tough for both of you to remain on your best behavior....

HOWEVER - If you are working off a budget or limited means (or you are just a cheap bastard...) - an extended thing is not really a good idea;  it really comes down to just how much a thousand dollars or two or three is REALLY worth to you.  In my case - it's just not a big deal and I am not nearly as prosperous as some.   I get that there are people to whom a thousand or (two or three) dollars is a lot of money or to whom every dollar needs to be squeezed until it screams as a matter of general principle.   Those folks don't need to be doing this

I have never done extended dinner date with a new provider. So it is great to hear from both sides. I was thinking of a three  hour or four hour date in Chicago. All day will not work for me.   My question is when do you give the envelope?

and the plan is to meet in a public place, you'll give her a book, magazine, or gift bag with the envelope in it right at the beginning. If you meet in the room, and then go out for dinner, you'll do what you normally do- leave it on a table or in the bathroom on the counter. If you have met before, and you're both comfortable with each other, you could probably leave it in the room even if you meet out and about. But most guys do the gift bag thing, usually with a sweet little gift inside.  

One of the best ways I received my envelope was inside a brand new Dior wallet, inside a gift bag. He had style. ;) Another was inside a box of Godiva dark truffles.

with my ATF, usually she arrives around 7-8pm and by 11:30pm I have locked myself in the bathroom, lying on the floor, and whimpering "no mas, no mas" as she calls my name.  The wake up call is usually a wonderful way to start the day.  This is about all my budget can handle. I can't imagine paying for 24hours and taking a girl shopping too.  
I do wish more ladies offered "dinner date" type evenings at a little more affordable price.  

 

Posted By: Demcc3
I've always wondered about what goes on during multi-hour dates.  I'm talking 3+ hours.  I know dinner dates are the meal and playtime but what about longer dates?  Do you go shopping, sports events, concerts, museums, or something else.  Yah, I know you leave plenty of time for fun.  Also, am I correct I'm guessing that the hobbyist pays for almost everything?  
   
 The reason I ask is that it's coming up to one year with my goto regular at end of May.  I'm leanings towards a dinner date but it may be more.  Thanks!  
   
 D.

I once knew a lady who had a minimum of 12 hours, but it was only 2K for the 12 hours. She was based overseas. Lovely lady.

that puts her wallet where her mouth is when in comes to a stated preference for extended dates.

when I see $300/hr, 600 for two, 900 for three 1,200 for four &etc and then read how much the lady in question loves extended dates it's like yeah, yep, ok... where's the bridge you want to sell me ?

You need to spend at least 2500 so that the lady will have true chemistry with you. They don't really care about the money. The money is so you have chemistry!

Thankyou everyone for excellent ideas and sharing your experiences!  I have a few ideas already.  One of them is quite dependent of the weather. A  canoe ride, picnic to a very small "island" (private property but I grew up with the owners ) and fun time after picnic lol

D.

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