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Re: Sometimes the only smart thing you can do is simply survive the encounter
BrittneyStarGirl See my TER Reviews 349 reads
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GG. Always a pleasure to read your thoughts. I've skimmed to say the least ;) (I may have taken a liking to u)

Any who. I am grateful that I'm okay and I'm smart with how I do thing. But I can't help but somehow wonder if anything I could have done would have changed the outcome.  

And I am nervous with LE but what will they do? Ask hotel for video? Put my room under suspicion? It scares me..idk.. Shed any more light on that?

Someone I'd seen a few times took out a tazer on me today. He stole my phone, a laughable $80 (his grandfather rate) and left.  

I bought a new phone but this is still very upsetting that a regular client could do this.

Any tips on how to better protect myself DURING a session?

Posted By: BrittneyStarGirl
Someone I'd seen a few times took out a tazer on me today. He stole my phone, a laughable $80 (his grandfather rate) and left.  
   
 I bought a new phone but this is still very upsetting that a regular client could do this.  
   
 Any tips on how to better protect myself DURING a session?

I know. Its still really bothersome.  

A small part of me thinks this is a fully premeditated act. From the first time he met me.  

I don't mean to seem niave or anything, but I'm almost certain he could have been a pimp, and when he saw I had no money, stole the phone in attempts to stop calls or something.

Just because a lot of the competitive crap goes on out here... And I'm independent, so that makes me a more obvious target.

irst, glad you are safe.  The outcome could have been a lot worse.

Second, I am not sure how you can prevent a client you have previously seen on several occasions, from suddenly morphing into a really bad person. Your guard is naturally down because you consider this client safe. It is going to catch you by surprise. You didn't do anything wrong (i.e. not screen carefully) and that is the upsetting part of it  

The best thing to do is to try and get him out of the room as quickly as possible. I am not sure you want to engage in a physical battle (If he took out a taser, you are not dealing with a rational man and he is there to hurt you).  All you can do now is give out as much information about him to providers who ask in the hopes that he is never able to set up an appointment again with anybody.

Must have deleted what I wrote...

So, I'm not sure where the provider only boards are but...  

Also, I use a burner phone so I don't have his number (I do know area code and first 3 digits.) And I didn't sync my contacts..

Though I can describe him physically

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anotherdamnalias253 reads

1. He stole your phone to keep you from blacklisting his number..OR calling LE..Nobody memorizes phone numbers these days, especially in this hobby.

2. $80 ???? Don't offer QV's to anyone that can't afford an hour, cheap assholes are not good customers.

3. Get a can of wasp/hornet spray, it will shoot 20 feet of blinding spray, better than a taser, quieter than a gun, and nobody thinks twice about why you have a can of bug spray =)

Bug spray is a damn good idea.  

Also, he's a regular. I've seen him more times than I have appendages.

His grandfather rate was and is 80, just as I still see clients for 200/hour because I already saw them for that amount

As any guys walks in your door, be on your phone.  

A simple "he's here, I have to go" as you greet him at the door can do the trick.

No guarantees and a BSC john isn't going to give a damn but it might give many pause to know that you have established what time he arrived to another party.

Security is about risk mitigation, not elimination, as eliminating risk is not feasible.

Very sorry this happened to you.

You did everything right. Fighting back will certainly get you hurt, killed, or arrested if you get lucky and hurt him first. He picked you because he knew you wouldn't go to LE. Going to LE and saying so and so robbed me will end with hours and hours of repeated questions. Their goal is to get you to admit to something illegal on your part. You are dealing with people who are trained and experienced at deception (they lie) and worse, their mindset is that everyone they deal with is a liar so don't expect much help from LE. The best thing you can do is inform others about  this guy. Good luck!

I am so sorry this happened to you & you did nothing wrong & everything right.  Write down everything you can remember from his contact information...  maybe the rest will come back to you.  You best defense...  is sceening...  Do you book through email?  Save the numbers...  You could text or phone his digits to another phone in a secure location before he arrives...  it could be your phone or a "safety" friend...  I would not under estimate the deterent value that someone knows something if you don't come home.  Even if it's a bluff.  He won't know.  And it's not totally a bluff.      
You can not very well take your cash out to the car very hour but there are hiding places inside the room.  I've heard of thieves going into her purse while she's in the bathroom...  dispicable!        

Self defense?  If you can fend on an assault for a few minutes, he'll leave.  If you can make it to the bathroom, there is a lock.  Bee spray is quite potent...  and is not classified as a weapon unless it is used as such.  I can't recommend carrying weapons because it would almost certainly increase the charges if you are ever arrested.

If he were just the kind of jerk who sneaks back a few 20s from the donation when you're not looking, that's one thing:  Put him on the black list and DNS on your phone and computer.

But a guy like this could end up murdering a gal some day when he decides to graduate to bigger and deadlier weapons.  

I know it is controversial, but I think his info should be given to LE.  In many cases, the cops who handle armed robberies don't give a fig about P4P raps, and you probably won't get bagged for that.  He should be picked up, tried, and sent away for a long time

I'm just quite nervous to risk the possibility of arrest. Due to my PTSD I am terrible under pressure and will be very nervous.

I didn't mean to sound like a scold if you or anyone in that circumstance decided not to call LE against the guy.  It's very easy for me to pontificate in the comfort of my office on this while you gals are in the trenches facing these madmen.

But all I wanted to do is to say that calling LE is an option should circumstances allow.  Obviously, you must do what is right for you and with your circumstances I can see that calling LE could prove as awful as the original experience, not to mention turn out to be unfruitful

She will end up on LE's radar as they consider everyone a criminal. They have a dim view of all people and anyone who is involved in"criminal activity" is nothing more than a criminal to them and undeserving of their assistance.  

Posted By: mrfisher
I didn't mean to sound like a scold if you or anyone in that circumstance decided not to call LE against the guy.  It's very easy for me to pontificate in the comfort of my office on this while you gals are in the trenches facing these madmen.  
   
 But all I wanted to do is to say that calling LE is an option should circumstances allow.  Obviously, you must do what is right for you and with your circumstances I can see that calling LE could prove as awful as the original experience, not to mention turn out to be unfruitful.  
   
 

This is pretty serious. Why not?

Posted By: BrittneyStarGirl
Someone I'd seen a few times took out a tazer on me today. He stole my phone, a laughable $80 (his grandfather rate) and left.  
   
 I bought a new phone but this is still very upsetting that a regular client could do this.  
   
 Any tips on how to better protect myself DURING a session?

local SWOP chapter (http://swop-nyc.org/) for support, and the Sex Worker Project at the Urban Justice Center: http://sexworkersproject.org/ to see if they can help out. I'm so very sorry you had to deal with that! :(

How did this guy get a taser in the room without you seeing it?
He only took 80 or that's all you had period?
And finally what kind of clientele you seeing?

It was small, like a cell phone.  

That was his shirt stay rate from when I first saw him up until now. He's done hours, he's done 3 hours once.

I don't know what made him turn on me.

I keep my money in the car, because of people like him.

I'm seeing those that have seen 2+ reviewed providers (minimum of 3 reviews) that can vouch for them, and he had that! Shoot, before today I WOULD HAVE referenced him myself, so shit I can't blame them. I already contacted those two providers hoping the same didn't happen to them.

You were seeing a low-end guy -- not exactly the elite of the New York Area. You have good looks and reviews. I would not expect you to settle for this low a fee – even from a regular. People that are pathologically cheap tend to be trouble eventually. No guarantees --but wouldn't only seeing more upscale guys should help reduce the risk of this kind of problem?

As I've said previously he's seen me SO MANY TIMES. he's only seen me for a short stay ONCE before when he was in a rush to work, I assumed it was the same story *shrugs*

There are pretty girls with reviews doing 45-60 short stays on TER, so don't get on my back. I like to keep my clientele as long as I can.

The only thing I might suggest is stricter screening.  I understand with being new and just trying to get on your feet you don't want to lose appointments.  However, you should always put your safety first.  Requiring a gentleman to give you his first & last name, and then verifying the information (I typically do employment verification) will greatly reduce the risk of seeing this type of predator.  It will also allow you to do some research and see if he has been blacklisted, criminal record, etc..  And, in the case of a situation like this, you will have their real world information if you do decide to go to the police.

It sounds like you did everything right at the hotel and during the situation.  I'm very glad you are safe and unharmed.  
 

Posted By: BrittneyStarGirl
Someone I'd seen a few times took out a tazer on me today. He stole my phone, a laughable $80 (his grandfather rate) and left.  
   
 I bought a new phone but this is still very upsetting that a regular client could do this.  
   
 Any tips on how to better protect myself DURING a session?

Afro-desiac237 reads

Just a hunch, but your profile says you're from Long Island.  I just checked on the National Black List (Browse the NB Registry) and at the top of the list it says: " Long Island.....tazerhaverguy......Seen him before, pulled out a tazer."  As a non member that's all I could read so I don't know how much other info is in the post.

while I would love to see his scumbag ass arrested...  I universally recommend only going to the Police with your lawyer...  so they stay on message & not turn it back on you.  They say that Police would go after the armed robbery felony charge but the mere possibility that some cop would turn it on you...  would be enough that I would not go without representation.  

You were right to give up the phone & cash...  some provider murder cases started as armed robberies.  I hope you did not lose your wallet (think ID), real phone & keys.

That was my real phone. :-|

But my real phone is a burner smart phone until I get the phone I actually want (s6 active)

Other wise $80 and a $100 isnt much to dwell on. A regular id seen since i was 17 ( when i first first first began, before i knew about ter, p411, etc) actually came by later today and saw me for three hours. So trust me, I wasn't upset after he came over

His scum bag ass will be charged if there's anything I gotta do w. It

Posted By: harborview
while I would love to see his scumbag ass arrested...  I universally recommend only going to the Police with your lawyer...  so they stay on message & not turn it back on you.  They say that Police would go after the armed robbery felony charge but the mere possibility that some cop would turn it on you...  would be enough that I would not go without representation.    
   
 You were right to give up the phone & cash...  some provider murder cases started as armed robberies.  I hope you did not lose your wallet (think ID), real phone & keys.    

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