For me it is just what gets things going. Maybe let the provider know in your initial contact, that kissing is really important to you.
So when reading them I'm always looking for the girls that the reviewers say the girl likes to kiss. I've seen a few expecting some passionate kissing an get nothing. I don't like to or want to push it although I attempt to try and start some kissing but it didn't happen. Now I'm freshly showered, have fresh breath, an don't smoke. Should I ask when setting up the date, ask when I arrive or try one more date so maybe they're more comfortable an try an move forward with some kissing?
Than getting those terrible "pecks" that some providers think is kissing. I remember a double with my regular and a new provider that my regular said she had checked out and vouched for as being "good". My regular told her, "He's ok with kissing." And the other provider started a tight-mouthed pecking that was almost comical. I remember thinking, "If her mouth was anymore closed - it would be a butthole." That and a terrible performance by the new provider made that my worst doubles session to date. Kissing is vital to avoid session IMO.
For me it is just what gets things going. Maybe let the provider know in your initial contact, that kissing is really important to you.
hen I'm in a session like that, I will just start kissing her all over her body. And I mean every inch of the tongue covering every curve and crevice of her bod. Like literally making out with her naval and inner thighs.
Make her body feel what her lips are missing
..that's pretty low for the west coast.
One of the many things I have learnt over the years, and I have more years than most of you, is that not all women know how to kiss. This is true in the civie world as well as the professional world. For me kissing is very important, and thus GFE is the my preferred engagement, yet, sometimes they can and sometimes they cannot.
I discussed this with a regular once, who by the way could curl your toes with her kisses. She said the same is true with men. Sometimes they can, and sometimes they cannot.
Why is this? I have no idea.
..most women, civvie as well as pro do not know how to kiss. Their idea of kissing is ramming their tongue down your throat. When that happens I just stop kissing.
...going to my YMMV comment -- in my hobby experience, I now have dates with four women who are true ram-it-down-your-throat kissers -- really aggressive kissing and super high energy. All four of them have review after review of "great kisser", so some guys must really like it. In addition, two of the four have over a 100 reviews and over 10 years in the business, so they are getting by!!!
In all four cases, I either went with the flow and learned, or got their tongue and my tongue involved elsewhere. All four turned out to be wonderful with my unit in their mouths, lol!
..different strokes for different folks. I guess we could all we agree that a little peck is not what we are after.
Not so much for the sensation, but the experience of the raw power of attraction that it connotes.
The psychology of. eroticism is at least as powerful as the physiology, and maybe more so
Absolutely agree about the rawness...I have learned to appreciate the differences and enjoy newness...also have learned to tolerate and even like the bbbjs that are so sloppy that the sheets beneath my balls get wet! Talk about a new sensation! But that's for another thread.
I understand that you are complaining about women who "peck" or LFK, when you are expecting/wanting GFE DFK. But there are so many variables in a great kiss, or even in the "want-to" of the kissers. If you are having trouble finding ANYONE that wants to and can kiss you deeply and passionately, then the problem may be with you. Cspatz was right-on with his first comment -- upgrade to a higher price range with women whose reviews comment over and over about good kissing. Check your hygiene -- beard or moustache super clean? freshly brushed teeth? breath mints and/or gum?
Even then, I have found YMMV. I ALWAYS read reviews for quality of kissing, as it is a major contributor to how much fun I have with a lady. I don't like the "tongue-down-your-throat" variety or the darting snake tongues, but some guys do. There are women with review after review of "great kisser", that didn't do anything for me, even though they were clearly into it. I'm sure there are tons of hobbyists out there that want her tongue down their throat or want to play rapid fire sword fighter with her tongue. Who am I to say someone else's kissing style is wrong. I have come to the conclusion that if her kissing style is not my style, then I just go with the flow, learn a bit about her methods and enjoy a different way of swapping saliva.
But then, when we do click...slow, sensual, tongue-filled-but-controlled-smooching....well, that's magic...and I've found a bunch of them, so keep looking
you should ask to find out.
I too seek out GFE but kissing is not a deal breaker.
Some ladies kiss softly, others more passionately.
I feel it often depends on not only the provider but the connection between us.
I let her make that move. Forcing it I(MO will ruin the date.
Assuming that the gal has DFK listed in her profile:
1. Limit your consumption of meats and garlic.
2. Thoroughly brush and use mouthwash before a date. I recommend a brand called Thera-breath that does not use alcohol. Check out drug stores for it. I have had very good results with it.
3. Pop a few Tic-tacs a couple of minutes before meeting her.
I've had gals go from no-kiss to very heavy DFK as a result of doing these items
Always carry them. Do one of those, followed by an altoid or something, so your breath doesn't smell antiseptic.
A little candy on your breath never hurts. Chicks like candy.
I would also add, good dental hygiene. Tooth decay and/or gum disease can lead to halitosis that no breath fresheners can mask for more than a few minutes, not to mention the visual esthetics of badly stained teeth.
If your provider is a non-smoker, smokers breath can be a big turn-off too. As a non-smoker myself, I wouldn't like DFKing an ashtray.
that's what i do.
i carry a toothbrush & toothpaste in my car and brush thoroughly before a date.
i also carry a small personal use bottle of mouth wash, and gargle immediately before walking up to the lady's door.
if a lady doesnt' like to kiss, she only gets one session from me.
they look like this....
You are swimming in the shallow end of the escort pool looking for a gal who is an Olympic swimmer.
GFE girls, the real good ones, tend to be more expensive and at 2 bills an hour in L.A., I just can't imagine you would find what you want.
Second, I see no mention of you contacting the girls reviewers by pm. That is where you will likely get the real deal,on her menu and skills.
This might be news to you but many guys exaggerate in the reviews.
You need to go deeper son, not just to the other end of the pool but also with your research.
I can't stand that word "wrong" personally. You do know most people don't resonate with that words at all. Myself included.
However...
It is true..."true GFE" ladies tend to be on the higher end of the scale because the true girlfriend experience does go deeper than your non-GFE lady here.
Not sure what all the talk about "connections" are as of late but its good to see. I think you boys are feeling extra warm and fuzzy because of the game lol.
GFE girls, the real good ones, tend to be more expensive and at 2 bills an hour in L.A., I just can't imagine you would find what you want.
Second, I see no mention of you contacting the girls reviewers by pm. That is where you will likely get the real deal,on her menu and skills.
This might be news to you but many guys exaggerate in the reviews.
You need to go deeper son, not just to the other end of the pool but also with your research.
Kissing or any other additional benefits. I've always gone the higher donation route, (500+), only to find out that YMMV, a lot. And you have no recourse at that point. Ask back channel questions, yep done that, it still is up to her.
but that was not what I was eluding to by any means. More of the GFE piece vs higher price was what I really was getting at. And of course, we are just women. Sometimes, either, we are really feeling it or not. And that is something we can't control until we are in the room with you to decipher just how we are going to react to you. With whatever connection there may be between us. Sometimes it's literally electric, and sometimes, well, it's just not. I'd like to think more times it is than not. I know that's the case for me. Then again, I play this game a little differently than some women do, so to each his/her own. But yes, dollar amount does not equate more on any menu if that's what you mean. Btw, I can't stand that word "menu" here, what are we at Friendly's? lol
Obviously I don't know the whole situation but many clients think DFK is shoving their tongue as far down my throat as humanly possible and leaving it there. It's grotesque, seriously. And it happens ALL the time. If you are offender of that, it could be your problem.
Breath is fresh and always shower upon arrival so I'm squeaky clean. Not shoving my tongue down her throat at all. I'm talking I show up, get a hug and a friendly peck like we do with our civvie friends. Which I understand because we just met. I'm talking about when bcd and I try an kiss and it's basically closed mouth. But I've read she's into kissing. I'll try the pm route.
I have shyed away from kissing in a session a time or two.. or three. The smell of smoke on my partners breath is an immediate turn off for me, and it's hard to mask even with recent teeth brushing. Lots of saliva during kissing also turns me off, I hate feeling slobber on my lips or chin so I'll just avoid kissing all together. Lastly, too much aggression... a tongue shoved down my throat is not a nice feeling to me. Most of my partners have been awesome kissers, soft, deep, passionate... so I'm a happy girl most of the time.
I also try to avoid kissing a smoker, just kills the moment
( I prefer shoving my tongue down the "rabbit hole," while softly exploring the lady's other pair of lips, uh, not both at once, take turns;P~~~
A girl I had not seen before volunteered on the phone that she just loved passionate kissing. Upon arrival, it appeared quite the opposite. I could only guess that she wasn't a fan of my goatee.