It's just a nice gesture.
I've only done it once OTC. I bought lunch. She choose the place. I don't think it was anything more then just that. Sure we had a date later, but it was just a conversation and some food. Don't we all want to feel like a human being sometimes? Especially in this world...a previous thread had asked about expectations if a client treated a provider for otc meal...well, i have treated clients for meals and/or drinks before...should i have an expectation for their future business?
There are two main reasons that salespeople take clients out:
One is the whole bonding and goodwill thing, and I suppose that is worth something, but also to swap gossip in their industry to try and gain an advantage with the this information. This is a two-way street.
Number one has some bearing on this hobby. I hope number two does not, but I fear it often does
i do it because i enjoy the company...i am not particularly fond of gossip or trying to gain an advantage over anyone...everyone has their own way to conduct business
In this case I would not expect anything other than some friendly conversation and hopefully a few laughs.
When we share time OTC, hang, talk, music, a bite to eat, a some wine, a rub down sans sex, that's consenting adults not ready to say goodbye. Its a gift. To us. A gift we earn.
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For me, no contingencies or expectations and I don't care about the reason ... business, loneliness, a spontaneous desire for company. A gift is a gift and it doesn't change p4p ... but the rules can be bent consentually.
None of my OTC have been planned until recently. All spontaneous. An hour or 5, dinner and drinks, sometime back to the room.
But its always been greatly appreciated and thoroughly enjoyed.
You know who you are, thank you.
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i just had one of my atf's invite me to a otc day at disneyland with her and her daughter.
i'm going to refuse because i don't know how well i could be all day with this beautiful lady and not want to act sexual with her, even in a small, conversational way.
and i wouldn't want to be with a provider otc and take advantage of her by being sexual. not cool.
(also, still recovering from surgery, don't think i could manage a theme park day physically at this point.)
there should be no expectations from otc time. it's just 2 people enjoying the company of each other.
besides, what expectations could there possibly be?
if you were on an otc date with a lady, and then wanted to see her later on a paid date, i'm pretty damn sure she'd say yes.
are you expected a discount or something because you treated her to olive garden? no way jose.
man, what the hell, why frak are we still talking about this? it's just common sense folks.
it's pay 4 play! no pay, no play!! no expectations of play either! if you wants to play, you gots to pay!
or take your chances in civvie dating.
Those that are pissing and moaning and getting all defensive, don't get it and are not happy. It is very plain to see the division in the two groups and the usual suspects who have their undies in a bunch, are crying the loudest about the ungrateful hookers etc. Not at all surprising.
I have given, and still give OTC time at my suggestion, to a very loyal and a very small group (3) of respectful guys who know the boundaries. They have proven time and time again that they understand the boundaries and are thusly rewarded.
The entitled asshats can go pound sand
i hope someday i accidentally have a session with you, h+t, you sound like someone who truly understands the nature of this endeavor, with all its limitations and boundaries on one side, and unlimited excitement for a galaxy of pleasure on the other.
i would also hope i'd become the 4th guy you'd see otc. i'd be a perfect gentleman.
it does take a while and a certain level of trust before I invite someone OTC. But you get it and I would more than likely do that.
It's just a nice gesture.
I've only done it once OTC. I bought lunch. She choose the place. I don't think it was anything more then just that. Sure we had a date later, but it was just a conversation and some food.
Don't we all want to feel like a human being sometimes? Especially in this world...
i am a person, not just a service 
goes without saying.........from my own personal experience, I know you are someone very special.
As I posted........waaaaaaaaaaaay down.........on the previous post;
Like any hobbyist/provider "business" encounter...........every facet of a human outcome...........depends on the unique degree of rapport established by the two parties involved. Just like ANY business transaction. And........no matter the type of business transaction.........sometimes there is a degree of mutual respect and understanding that transcends the transaction itself.
Why would a hobbyist tip one particular provider............and not tip another? Why would a provider genuinely enjoy a session with one hobbyist and maybe even truly reach orgasm............yet not so much with another hobbyist?
IMO you can apply these questions..........to most business transactions.
I gave an amazing tip to a waitress on the Las Vegas strip a while back. The service was terrible. But I could tell she was a genuinely nice person that was simply having a bad day. There was a certain positive element to our encounter (not at all sexual) in spite of the terrible service. So I felt like reaching out with my actions.........rather than intruding with my words.
At times, the human factor determines what happens between two people...........or not
This is a perfect example of so much being said about something of so little consequence. The rules are simple: 1) I ask you out on a dinner date I pay full freight or whatever your fee is; 2) I ask you for a meal or drink after our session, no payment, no expectations. You ask me out for dinner or an event, no fee, no expectations.
..yeah it is that simple.
A (sadly former) Fav... a considerable drive for me... a couple of times she offered & I accepted lunch at her place. It was mighty fine left overs for her fridge. We arranged that I'd bring lunch fixings for us... meant a stop at the store before I got on the highway. We'd get lunch ready, have play time & then lunch before I left. Play time was fully compensated. There was always food left which she kept, of course. She was very low volume & never had another appointment on the day of. Then the train went off the rails... Too bad...
Good point then the train went off the rails.
They have the power to drive accomplishment and also to lead to disappointment.
From the provider's POV it should be considered an investment in advertising. There's nothing wrong with that. A good business practice indeed. Of course it is up to you to use your judgment to target the special treatment on those who you think are exceptionally good clients and who are likely to come back.
From my POV I treated providers with otc meal, gifts etc... also with no other expectation than to continue receiving exceptional service above and beyond my expectation. Think of it as a reward of sort