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Even a regular will respect that that's how I feel more comfortable doing business .even though were comfortable with one another its just part of the routine and they are respectful enough to comply with that.even though I doubt one of my regulars would rip me off you have to keep a set order to how things run,that's  just business.i would never go fourth with a session in that case whether 1st time client or 100 th time.it would be great if we could trust everybody but unfortunately that's just not how things work... I even had two client who were screened and all and one of them shorted the donation by far and the other as you were saying the playtime just kicked off with no mention or thought of a donation and afterwards he tried to come up with an excuse saying he has no money in the bank even though he was staying at a super nice hotel and supposedly there for business....and you would never expect that from that type of client..  I even told him I have a square reader and accept credit card... So that's just a nightmare!! So yes.. always!!!

Posted By: nothrofboston
Do you ALWAYS take care of the business end of the transaction before playtime? This includes regulars and first timers.  
   
 It's always my intention to do so but in most instances, once the activities begin, it's usually a point of no return and I've never noticed any hesitation on the ladies part to continue.  
 Especially with Indys.  
   
 I think it's because I've been already vetted and usually provide more information than is required. Let's put it this way, I've never had a provider stop in the middle of DFK/foreplay and ask or subliminally  feel she was holding back. After all, I am immersed in the moment as much as you.  
   
 AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO ASK. But isn't it grand to get so fully overwhelmed in the moment.  
   
 

Do you ALWAYS take care of the business end of the transaction before playtime? This includes regulars and first timers.  

It's always my intention to do so but in most instances, once the activities begin, it's usually a point of no return and I've never noticed any hesitation on the ladies part to continue.  
Especially with Indys.  

I think it's because I've been already vetted and usually provide more information than is required. Let's put it this way, I've never had a provider stop in the middle of DFK/foreplay and ask or subliminally  feel she was holding back. After all, I am immersed in the moment as much as you.  

AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO ASK. But isn't it grand to get so fully overwhelmed in the moment

business after...at least for me...if i do not trust someone to be honorable then i just will not see them in the first place...i do my own vetting and i have yet to be disappointed

soft_licks424 reads

I wouldn't be surprised if you find that "business" really picks up after this post :)

did I say that is my MO ..  no, but you certainly made that distinction.
And as for being a target ... my referral network has enabled me to see everyone I've wanted to see. I usually like sassy, but in your case, I might make an exception.  Lol

eloquently stated. You're seeing me because you want to. The money is primary, but what did you say your phone number is ... lol

I always drop the donation on the closest desktop to the door and make it evident.  I don't want her thinking - is he going to pay me?   Does he have the right donation?    

Get the business out of the way and put her mind at ease.  

I prefer she focus on how many times I can go...

Posted By: nothrofboston
eloquently stated. You're seeing me because you want to. The money is primary, but what did you say your phone number is ... lol

Even a regular will respect that that's how I feel more comfortable doing business .even though were comfortable with one another its just part of the routine and they are respectful enough to comply with that.even though I doubt one of my regulars would rip me off you have to keep a set order to how things run,that's  just business.i would never go fourth with a session in that case whether 1st time client or 100 th time.it would be great if we could trust everybody but unfortunately that's just not how things work... I even had two client who were screened and all and one of them shorted the donation by far and the other as you were saying the playtime just kicked off with no mention or thought of a donation and afterwards he tried to come up with an excuse saying he has no money in the bank even though he was staying at a super nice hotel and supposedly there for business....and you would never expect that from that type of client..  I even told him I have a square reader and accept credit card... So that's just a nightmare!! So yes.. always!!!

Posted By: nothrofboston
Do you ALWAYS take care of the business end of the transaction before playtime? This includes regulars and first timers.  
   
 It's always my intention to do so but in most instances, once the activities begin, it's usually a point of no return and I've never noticed any hesitation on the ladies part to continue.  
 Especially with Indys.  
   
 I think it's because I've been already vetted and usually provide more information than is required. Let's put it this way, I've never had a provider stop in the middle of DFK/foreplay and ask or subliminally  feel she was holding back. After all, I am immersed in the moment as much as you.  
   
 AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO ASK. But isn't it grand to get so fully overwhelmed in the moment.  
   
 

GaGambler438 reads

I normally drop the donation as I undress, but not with women I see regularly as sometimes they go over and above the "call of duty" and I drop a bit (or quite a bit) extra if the appointment runs over or they make me feel especially generous.  

If one of those ladies ever stopped the action to "take care of business" it would completely spoil the mood and it would be the last time I ever saw her. Now if it were the first time I ever saw her, I would understand and stop to comply, but for a regular to demand payment up front would show her distrust of me and would end our "relationship" such as it was.

And that's why there's tons of ladies out there... Some of which probably don't have a problem with that...no one I see would ever make me ask...if anyone ever made me that would be my last session with them as well...I feel its a sign of respect to honor someone's wishes...

Posted By: GaGambler
I normally drop the donation as I undress, but not with women I see regularly as sometimes they go over and above the "call of duty" and I drop a bit (or quite a bit) extra if the appointment runs over or they make me feel especially generous.  
   
 If one of those ladies ever stopped the action to "take care of business" it would completely spoil the mood and it would be the last time I ever saw her. Now if it were the first time I ever saw her, I would understand and stop to comply, but for a regular to demand payment up front would show her distrust of me and would end our "relationship" such as it was.

GaGambler364 reads

They allow hookers to vett johns and the boards also allow us johns to get a feel about you ladies and if we would be a good fit or not.

If after several sessions a woman STILL doesn't trust me over a lousy few hundred bucks, that gives me an idea what kind of person I am dealing with. Overly mercenary people just don't do it for me, especially overly mercenary people that I am having sex with.  

I guess I am just funny that way, as long as it's my idea, or asked in the right way, I am willing to comply with almost any reasonable request, but the moment it turns into a demand......

It's just like with screening. I have ZERO issue giving out anything short of my SSAN, and I don't even have a "hobby" phone, you can get all the personal information you could ever want about me just from my phone number, but if a woman demands a ton of screening info, I almost always take it as making "jump through hoops" and move on to the next woman on my list. Like I said, I am just funny that way, I have always had problems with authority. Call it a character flaw I suppose.

ha, yeah, I mostly agree...
My "routine" is to always pay up front, but like Gambler I have had multiple dates with some women and we have developed a level of relationship that included trust.  I have generally still offered payment upfront unless the woman insisted, "leave it till later"  I follow her lead in those cases.  On more than one occasion I have been with women who I have come to know well, offered the payment and been told this date is on her....okay!!!  I didn't even need the Jack Dunphy training to get that OTC date!  LMAO  Also like Gambler, I'm a single monger who has been in relationships with “sex workers” for most of my years.   That said, I think that the SOP for most P4P situations is that the monger respect the woman's policy. Based on the comments of several women who have posted on this thread it is clear that they would not like surprises when it comes to the payment.  Pay up front!
Some guys just have to push the limits though...LOL

Posted By: GaGambler
I normally drop the donation as I undress, but not with women I see regularly as sometimes they go over and above the "call of duty" and I drop a bit (or quite a bit) extra if the appointment runs over or they make me feel especially generous.  
   
 If one of those ladies ever stopped the action to "take care of business" it would completely spoil the mood and it would be the last time I ever saw her. Now if it were the first time I ever saw her, I would understand and stop to comply, but for a regular to demand payment up front would show her distrust of me and would end our "relationship" such as it was.


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Squeezetheorem385 reads

For some, it is not about familiarity or getting swept away as much as what Joe said, a power play.  Even when they don't make you ask for it at the end, some will make a big production of it and act as though they are doing you a solid for paying the money they owed.

 For that reason, I care far less about when (during the session) I get the money with regulars than -how- I get it.  Lol

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GaGambler364 reads

and then acting like they left her a hundred.

I am with you in that regard. I really detest cheap people. I don't feel that way about people looking to get good value for their money, but the truly cheap people. You know the type, it's the guy who goes to the bar has eight draft beers and then tries to tell the waitress or bartender he only had six and argues for an hour over the five bucks. I am sure you ladies run into those types all the time and I completely agree with your point

It certainly wouldn't bother me with a regular client to be given the envelope after the date, before he left me, if things got heated up immediately. However, I have never had a gentleman walk in and not immediately put the envelope out, or have it waiting and easily visible if I am going to an outcall.

I'm talking about those moments when something clicks and it's off to the races. Are you saying NEVER with a first timer? Just asking  

I've been very lucky in my hobbying career, but I just can't believe I'm the only guy. Not that you have to be that lady.  

I do enjoy your responses as they can be direct and insightful.

GaGambler314 reads

I have had sessions where a kiss at the door led to 45 minutes of non stop action before we ever came up for air, obviously the donation was still in my pocket that whole time. It happens and it happens more often than a lot of hookers care to admit.

BTW, those kind of ladies almost always end up being my favorites and the last thing any favorite of mine ever has to worry about is not getting paid.

in understanding my post in the first place. Of course it happens, but not every provider plays that way. And that's fine. Now I'm kicking and screaming? LOL ...  

I'd have no interest in seeing anyone that doesn't understand my post. I'm not asking anyone to change their rules for me, just brought up something that happened.  

There's a bit of a pattern how things are "interpreted" on this board.

Reminds me of the post where I said no one ever dropped to their knees and started sucking my cock as soon as I walked in the door. Several told me how unfortunate I was. What, as I tried to stuff the envelop in her mouth instead. Go figure

To be clear, I never said that there was anything wrong with that type of situation at all. You asked a question, and I responded with MY personal experience. There was no judgement behind it, so maybe you are the one misinterpreting if you read that between the lines.  

 

Posted By: nothrofboston
in understanding my post in the first place. Of course it happens, but not every provider plays that way. And that's fine. Now I'm kicking and screaming? LOL ...  
   
 I'd have no interest in seeing anyone that doesn't understand my post. I'm not asking anyone to change their rules for me, just brought up something that happened.  
   
 There's a bit of a pattern how things are "interpreted" on this board.  
   
 Reminds me of the post where I said no one ever dropped to their knees and started sucking my cock as soon as I walked in the door. Several told me how unfortunate I was. What, as I tried to stuff the envelop in her mouth instead. Go figure

Posted By: GaGambler
I have had sessions where a kiss at the door led to 45 minutes of non stop action before we ever came up for air, obviously the donation was still in my pocket that whole time. It happens and it happens more often than a lot of hookers care to admit.  
   
BTW, those kind of ladies almost always end up being my favorites and the last thing any favorite of mine ever has to worry about is not getting paid.
I do this a lot. I'm usually excited to meet a new person, and there is no better ice-breaker than a passionate kiss.  I also have a lot of repeats - maybe this is why.  

But dang, the other ladies' comments here make me worried about being a target now thus the alias :(((

we are all targets one way or another...it is just a matter how you weed potentials out

Captain Jack was looking for you too

You also know that he doesn't have money.

However, I'm sure he could find a lottery ticket, for that special occasion.  ;)

Posted By: thedoctorscompanion

i too have had those immediate tongue down the throat at the door sessions, and yes it takes a while for the envelope to come out (and me to come up for air).

but it's never been a problem, except for the time i mentioned above when the lady said "so can we take care of the donation before we move on?" and i had no problem with that at all.

and like gaga, any lady that prefers action over business and doesnt' hassle me about the money becomes a favorite, and favorites never have to worry about being paid.

But I haven't been in this game all that long. I'm not saying there is zero possibility, but it would never be the norm for a first timer. There would have to be a LOT of mental foreplay for that to be the case I think.

and it would have to be some very tastefully done imaging. Even if tastefully explicit. .. but that still doesn't mean the money can't or shouldn't be taken care of up front.  

Just mentioned what happened to me on a few occasions. They were brutally hotttt, tho.

soft_licks585 reads

Why would I risk going through an entire session with some guy that may or may not have my donation in the correct amount? I'm able to become "immersed in the moment" because I'm being compensated. No money... and suddenly I don't feel so excited to be with you. The women you've been with that have let you get away with that are foolish imho. And you're a jerk for not placing the money down as soon as you arrive, it alleviates any possible stress for her and it only takes two seconds.

Luckily, 90+% of the guys I see get it, but those that don't get a (very sweet) "would you like to take care of the donation and freshen up?". No one has ever declined that request, but they'd be quickly ushered out the door, blocked and blacklisted if they did.

When that money has been counted and put away, I suddenly feel "immersed in the moment".

out of well over a Hundred, where the provider counted the money and put it away? Did the John have to close his eyes so he didn't see where you hid it? 😚

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after going in there to WASH his hands and then I went in after, closed the door and counted it and "put it away".  

I don't see that cash, I am not going to do a darn thing until I do. This is first and foremost a business and that is the cold hard reality. If a guy wants to make a big deal about it, I don't care. The illusion starts when I get paid.

You're reading soooo much into my OP. Did anyone but you say "making a big deal" about anythibg.

I accept your opinion. No problem. But I guess it's never happened to anyone but me. Didn't say, like some have already, that I go in "with the intention" of not paying. Reread the post where I was dragged into the bedroom. BTW, I didn't go kicking and screaming :)

Actually, I don't care if you reread it or even read it in the first place.

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I get the impression that you were not too fond of soft_licks reply where she, and now I want the cash in order to get things going and that we would stop mid dfk to ask for it. Just the impression I got. Maybe too businesslike for you.  

I mean I can turn on the illusion with the best of them...only I like to see the money first..kinda like my foreplay...lol

I'd have no problem if you stopped and reminded before things got to a point of no return. I want you as comfortable as possible, right? Happy wife ... ooops, wrong proverb.  

Again, I leave the money all the time, except for the rare ocassion ...  

It is a business where different comfort levels arise and I'm not talking about the money. I'm talking about where foreplay, fucking and getting fucked intersect. Some escorts like getting fucked by some men more than othets. It's natural. And it definitely is hotter.

Good thing I didn't post about my free trial idea ... lmao ...  
I actually don't have a free trial idea. hmmm  😉


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We each get what we need from the transaction. Some guys like paying for it more than others. Which I find hotter.

There's a fine line when interpreting and posting ...  

you write "paying for it more" ... very different than
 "paying more for it" ... LOL

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I know exactly what a provider's agenda is. And lets face it, I'd never get women this good looking to spend intimate time with me.  

My alternative would be throwing money at the fucked up dating game with a member of the OTHFB club. Yeah, no! I'd rather jack off to porn.

greet you at the door, start passionately making out with you, say let's take this to the bedroom and throw you on the bed a have her way with you. Too bad!

I'm not saying you're wrong, or anyone else that agrees with you is wrong. I'm just not going to say ... honey, can you hold on a minute, I have something for you that's not my tongue or cock.  

And guys, if this hasn't happened to you on a first date, what can I say. It's not something I intend to do when I walk in.

And it's always nice being called a jerk by someone who knows nothing about you. I'll refrain from going there.

has had that one guy who ripped her off either the total amount or part thereof because she was nice and did not want to make him feel uncomfortable.  

They then never make that mistake again.  

Check the search function...some TERd regulars have ripped off their hookers.

I don't get your point? That this is the rule rather than the exception. Ripoff happen both ways, but it's not why I didn't pay up ftont im those few instances.  

I'm not looking for approval, buy in or a rule change. Just brought up an instance and asked for opinions. I can't go back and change what occurred.  

In my cases, these were not low pay, poor review escorts. Two of were established courtesans. One recruited me. What's so hard to understand about this rarity? That's my question to you, h+t?

If you know the drill so well you would realize that it is widely know that the trick leaves the donation in bathroom and the hooker pops in and checks it...then they get down to business.

Then what was your post and point regarding "does the trick have to close his eyes...." while I count it? That's my question to you.

sorry if that's happened to you or anyone. Sadly, it happens in every business.

ROGM363 reads

I always pay at the end of the session. This is for every provider I see. My ATF and back up ladies and even the new ones I see. I will never ever pay upfront again.

It truly concerns me that you're doling out your "OMG BBFSCIP $60 ALL PROVIDERS ARE COOL WITH XYZ I NEVER PAY UP FRONT" shit on the Newbie Board. I still can't figure out if you're a troll but regardless, your absurd "advice" could cause a lot of people a lot of problems.

GaGambler255 reads

We aren't allowed to knock him around on the Newbie board like he so richly deserves.

for the rest of the story....

ALWAYS put the envelope down and wash your hands with a new provider.  My ATF and my ex-regular always seem to get things heated up right away, but I have known them long enough that they know I have it.  

Posted By: nothrofboston
Do you ALWAYS take care of the business end of the transaction before playtime? This includes regulars and first timers.  
   
 It's always my intention to do so but in most instances, once the activities begin, it's usually a point of no return and I've never noticed any hesitation on the ladies part to continue.  
 Especially with Indys.  
   
 I think it's because I've been already vetted and usually provide more information than is required. Let's put it this way, I've never had a provider stop in the middle of DFK/foreplay and ask or subliminally  feel she was holding back. After all, I am immersed in the moment as much as you.  
   
 AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO ASK. But isn't it grand to get so fully overwhelmed in the moment.  
   
 

...I do that so I won't get caught up in things and forget. I have to think it puts her mind at ease too.

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...I don't want anything outstanding to make the lady the slightest bit uncomfortable - even a regular.  

For a regular, I have occasionally forgotten to leave it out after the initial "greeting", but it's never been an issue

I often will bring a small gift or wine to a session/
When I do that I leave the envelope with the wine or gift I the bag/
On one occasion as I was leaving the provider said "did you forget something"
Lightbulb turned on and we open the bag with the envelope in it . Chuckles followed.
On another occasion similar but got a strange look and then we proceeded to find the bag and envelope in the trash.
In both case session was great and the wine gone. Neither seems to care about envelope until I was about to leave.
Neither was a first date also/

.....to greet her, chat for a minute, jump in the shower, and leave the envelope in the bathroom on the vanity. She will usually check on it after our session. I don't recall ever having a lady check on it before the fun began. I guess I just have an honest face ;)

I broached the question about that rare EXCEPTION ... eh

Squeezetheorem385 reads

It may be confusing for the readers because there doesn't seem to be anything in the OP that indicates you regarded it as a rare exception.

Agreed.
His start out sentence was "Do you ALWAYS take care of the business end of the transaction before playtime? This includes regulars and first timers."

I answered accordingly.

when I wrote most instances, i can see how it could be interpreted to mean that was my MO. I meant "when most instances that it DID happen" ... that's ok, that would probably be misinterpreted too ... lol
Ciao

I made the mistake once of trusting a new client because he lives on Park ave and is a well known person...the guy deliberately forgot a 100 even though he said he was a good counter... sadly the truth is I don't want to ruin the experience but its necessary and yes I find myself having to ask but once I do  its always displayed on the coffee table I dont like when dates put it in the washroom.

never saw her count my envelope; never even saw her look at it!

you're a gem, charlotte!

Coming to LA for a photoshoot in a few months we will catch up for sure darling

only once did i forget to lay the envelope down at the beginning; the lady was so attractive and enjoyable, we began chatting then got into making out, then she stopped and asked, "shall we take care of the donation?" and i apologized for forgetting and pulled it out (the envelope, you nasty minded perverts, the envelope!) and then we proceeded.

conversely i have, more times than i can remember, gone hip deep into a session with a regular and not pulled out the envelope until well into the time.  and my regular ladies have never complained.  in fact one good friend took my jacket and hung it up at the beginning of our time; we played and played, and then about half way thru i remembered the envelope!  i had to get out of bed, go to the closet and get the envelope out of my jacket.

as i did, i apologized for forgetting it.  "don't worry," my friend said.  "i trust you."

i have 2 other ladies i am currently seeing that also don't make a deal about seeing the envelope right at the beginning, they have both indicated how much they trust me to hold up my end of the deal.

it's nice when these relationships can get to that level of trust.  of course i would never be so nonchalant with the envelope at the beginning of a date with a new girl;  don't want to overstep my reputation.

For those who see me regularly, I know they have respect for me as a person (or they've faked it amazingly well and should get an Oscar).  I also know it's likely they will want to come back again, so obviously they will want to stay in my good graces!

after a session, the pheromones get me so groggy that I'm afraid I'd forget about it entirely.  (This has happened a couple of times, to my great embarrassment.)

The one exception is a very long time UTR gal who once said to me when I proffered her donation to wait till later so as not to muddy the mood

it's the admission ticket into the arena.  Even if I have seasons tickets I have to give the ticket up every time before entering the stadium.   Maybe it's just me but I have clients too, and I don't like waiting to be paid and my regulars especially know better and pay up front. I will assume that's true of everyone I deal with; namely they don't want to have to wait to get paid either

I agree about the power play thing.  

I had one guy who did not place the cash down and he kept avoiding doing so when discreetly asked for. I sat on the couch and kept talking and waiting for the money to appear.  

He kept making inroads to head to the bedroom however, I did what he did to me, avoided the hints and stayed put. The hour went by, and I asked him to leave. It was fun watching him realize he was getting nowhere.

or leaving it out in a noticeable spot if it's outcall. The main exception is AMPs where the mamasan gets the house fee upfront, but the provider gets "tipped" at the end.  

Even with regular ladies I have seen repeatedly I normally pay upfront too. There have been few exceptions to that. One is if she jumps me at the door and the hot and heavy action starts immediately. The other is if the date started out with OTC time, out of the room, and ended with some BCD time. In a few of those occasions I have paid at the end, but of course there was a lot of trust on both sides in those instances.

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and when that happens, I sometime have to get the covers out of my pocket too. That's when I MAY get the money, but at that point, in my few cases, she didn't care. Just saying what happened.  

A lot of defensive replies as if I'm trying to change the rule on paying the toll ...

I always like to put the donation in a nice card and give it to her when 1st entering. It not only gets the business part out of the way but it also is a classy gesture that will immediately let the provider know that you are a respectful gentleman. (It really helps to set a nice tone for the entire session!!)

ROGM245 reads

Then you leave yourself open to getting ripped off or a Cash N' Dash. When you get ripped off paying upfront just one time, I'll bet you won't pay upfront ever again. If a new provider I'm seeing wants money upfront I walk out on her.

I've never been party to a cash and dash, knock on wood. Perhaps that's because I do my due diligence when I make the choice of who to spend time with.

I pay upfront always, and have never regretted doing so.

i'm with russbbj.  research prevents scamming.  paying upfront is good.

NumNumMan286 reads

I always pay upfront. As I take off my clothes, the cash comes out and goes on the dresser. I always have it counted and in my pocket for an easy drop.

This is my philosophy on money...  

... If she picks it up and COUNTS it before we finish, that is our last date. Unless she does it while I am in the shower (that is OK)  
... I trust her enough to pay up front. She better trust me in return and perform as promised.  
... Payment is a sunk cost. Mentally, that makes it easier for me to enjoy my time and make decisions. If a date is going bad, I do not hesitate to leave.  
... I pay for time, not sex. If reviews influence hobbyist decisions, she loses money for bait and switch, as I will give a bad review.  
...  

Classiest story ever. I booked an extended outcall date with a very exclusive provider in Chicago and dropped a bundle of cash on her. I left it on the counter in the bathroom. She went in and out of the bathroom as few times. She never counted and never touched until she went to walk out of my room. She gave one of the best performances I have ever had and spent a lot of time with me, without ever verifying she was getting a dime. She was worth every penny

This is a simple arrangement.

We are there for a reason, and so is she.

I want the very best time that I can get for my buck, if I can ensure that she is comfortable and happy then I'm quite sure that I'll get her best. So, after I enter the room and we exchange pleasantries I drop the envelope and hit the shower. This does two things for her, lets her know I'm fresh and allows her a few moments to make sure my math is right (and it always is).

So, in less than 5 minutes she knows she is happy, and now she can concentrate on making me happy, and that is why I am there.

What is so difficult about this exchange? Someone please tell/explain it to me. She is not there for my good looks/charm/wit/interesting conversation, and that's a good thing else I'd screwed. She is there for the donation, and a clean respectful client, easy peasy

but it is ready when I arrive & is left silently on her dresser where my clothes were.  It's just better for the illusion.  With a first date, I follow her instructions.

For obvious reasons, it's best to take care of business right away if it's a first date. Comfort is extremely important that first time, and a visible envelope reaps tremendous rewards. But with an atf I put the proverbial envelope in an inconspicuous place while I'm getting ready to hope in the shower. They trust me implicitly, and it's a better way to start a date, because the money is forgotten by the time you get out of the shower. It almost seems like a real date (haha). For all that trust, sometimes there's an added gift in the envelope. But it's funny, occasionally my inconspicuous confuses them, and I get a call later wondering where it is. Under the conditioner babe.

I place the envelope in a very obvious spot ASAP.  Get it out of the way and let the party begin.  In my sexperience, if at this point the provider secured the envelope or asked for confirmation of its contents the session was average, at best.  If the provider, grabbed the envelope and disappeared to consult her bank account, the session was unsatisfactory.  Generally, the envelope has sat where I placed it until I have left.  Hell, even the K-girls don't check the donation.

In my own defense, with Her, she didn't give me a chance to off load the donation as she had my slacks, tuition assistance in the pocket, at my ankles and was working my excitement as I turned the dead bolt of her incall.  She was focused on sensuality and sex, with me as a willing accomplace.  Yes, I eventually crawled back to where my pants had been jetisoned, to complete the transaction but only after she had turned my dead bolt slack.  And so the MO has been repeated each date with Her-my FTT, Favorita de Todos Tempo.

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