There are plenty of trainwrecks on this board about dipshits who don't do their homework and then complain when they get rejected by the providers.  Many of them could be newbies to the hobby, or hobbiests who have just gotten off the BP train and discovered TER for the first time.  Then there are men out there who get their jack-off jollies by calling escorts, with no intention of ever following through.  Maybe you need to stop giving out your phone number and do your appointments by e-mail instead.

It's obvious lots of hobbyists have references because they see many providers or at least a few regularly
I don't.  
Darn hard to come up with references if you are not a regular P4P participant.

I think enough people have answered the question concerning why some guys can't provide references to cover most scenarios. The one I would add is that some guys only see a few providers for most of their hobby time and if a couple of these ladies retires then these guys are back to newbie status.  

Do you accept work verification or something like P411 OKs? If yes, then I think you've done your due diligence and you shouldn't compromise your safety and see a client without some sort of screening. There are guys that will never go for work verification, but if they don't have references and are not open to riskier verification then you shouldn't take the risk either.

I respect a provider that screens and is conscientious about her safety. I don't think it is ever worth it for a provider of client to give up some semblance of security in this hobby.

I have a strict screening policy and if they are not verified, don't have references, refuse to show ID or give their full name I am not responding there is always a desperate girl out there that will see them but I value my safety. If they are "new" I ask for their LinkedIn account link full name  blank email from a work account and to see their ID. I have encountered a few men that will give well known providers as references and thank GOD the provider replied never saw him. I find fake references annoying they are usually what I call time wasters.

for some reason i get a lot of guys like that as well

or they claim to be experienced hobbyists but for some shady reasons cannot supply verification info  

Screening to me is very important. I'm newbie friendly so I will often see people that haven't seen anyone prior but I ask for a lot of information if they say no (and boy has that happen) I simply tell them that no amount of money is worth it to me. You want to have a great time without being screened then I guess Roxanne Heart is not for you. I hate clients that act as if they never done this before. OMG It's easy, imagine how easy it would be if people followed instructions or got on the website right..?

Perhaps you should add language in your ads encouraging p411 and whitelist as a substitute for actual references.  I know some ladies have a policy of getting references regardless of p411 and whitelists, but I have found the vast majority of providers are very happy with a solid list of OK's and whitelists.

I have heard of and been screened all kinds of ways, LinkedIn is definitely a new one.  This topic comes up a lot and has been discussed on this board as well.  Overall it comes down to this, an "experienced" hobbyist may not want to give out his reference info because his reference info is of his ATF, and believe it or not, there is much jealousy involved in this business. Therefore, said client may just want to stay UTR when it comes to doling out reference info.  I read that one provider did research on the reference info and the lady responded back that she had never seen him.  Is it not out of the question that said provider just didn't remember him? I have seen a couple of high end ladies and one of which had to have her memory jogged of seeing me, so thats not the end all be all.  In this day and age with some ladies blackmailing clients, it's tough not to be skeptical and just hand over such critical information like a work email, LinkedIn act info, and other personal identification info.

Although I like references and verification sites (boy they make things easier) I had to ask myself "what so I really need?". I need to know he is not a cop and I need to know that he doesn't have a reputation as a bad client. With the tools that are available to us thanks to the www, if you have a positive ID check you can find out the answer to these two questions.  
Now I know this is playing loose by many ladies standards but it is what works for me.  
Sometimes the guy contacts me and he doesn't even know he has been screened before I write back and say Yes to the date. An established email addy gives me everything I need to know.  
If you need some tips on how I screen feel free to contact me

Do you mind giving referrals for clients?

I TOTALY appreciate your safety is critical. I typically do my research here to know that the provider is legit and provide whatever verification is requested.

I do not hobby that much (certainly not as much as I would like) so it is hard to justify the P411.  I guess if it was universally accepted I would sign up.  Also some of my sessions have been with ladies on tour, or who have retired.

I've heard of the "Whitelist" but never tried to get on it or asked a lady for a standing referral.  So the question is, would you write a referral for clients you felt were safe?

Ignore them until they give you what you need to screen and feel safe. If they are incapable of that very simple notion, they probably would've wasted your time anyhow. Plenty of good legit guys to go around who understand what it takes to see a good portion of the ladies here.

Don't sweat it doll

Gia xo

PS...don't EVER "bypass" anything!

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When I returned after a several year absence, all of my prior reviews were de-listed. I was fortunate to be seen by some wonderful newbie friendly ladies. Now it has been past the time that I feel comfortable asking for a reference. So what to do?  
Not that I am in your town but what would you need to see a retired person?

The bottom line is you do what you are comfortable with.  I have been in the business for over a decade - never once asked for reference from another provider - never once requested a P411 account.  My reasons? First, it has never made any sense to me to ask a complete stranger to vouch for another complete stranger.  And as for 411, I have a handful of LE as regular clients and each of them have active 411 memberships - enough said.  To me, safety boils down to using common sense and so far that theory has kept me out of harms way for the last 10+ years.