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JessicaSweden See my TER Reviews 1230 reads
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....at least that is what I am certain of. It is from someone who invites the rest of us to reply to the email in order to incriminate us if we actually replies or show up to court as suggested in that same email. The language is not even the same as what Frog would use in all his emails to all of us providers...

Do not reply to those emails unless you know more what is really going on!

This is what I think happened...there is a lot of turbulence going on. We can notice that from all the different sites going down. They recieved attention probably because of a former member reported them having underage providers. I do not know if there is any truth to it, but that is when vice will start to listen. Frog disclosed to me about a year ago that they recieved that accuse from a provider  that I use to do doubles with.

I do believe I know who is to blame for the site taken down. Same provider got kicked out of that site about a year ago. She recently got arrested. She claims she was on vacation (that is what her post says everywhere) but who gets a new phonenumber, website and new handle just because a "vacation"...unless they got in trouble? She moved from Clairemont to Escondido. To me it sounds she is trying to hide from something.

The same woman has numerous accounts under TER under similar names. It seems like she can not stay nice long enough and tries to hide her bad reviews by opening a new account.

This woman has no shame in doing anything that can be possibly be done to people she does not like. We use to do doubles together but I realized how evil and crazy she can be so I let her go. But she did not let me go. She tries very hard to get at me but unsuccesfully.

She seems super nice and it takes a while to realize something is loose "up there". Most people in San Diego knows this woman and I wish I could mention who she is so you stay away from her.  

She has stolen property from former clients she use to have, including pain medicine from people who needed them after surgery. She has done doubles with her own daughter which that by it self is a sign of unstable mind. Who does doubles with your own daughter? Can you imagine licking your daughters vagina? I can not! Its is upsetting!

I am very confident she is to be blaimed for San Diego´s best local site has been shut down. Shame on her. I wish her to get all the bad karma back double fold.

I rarely write anything on any boards and this is something that I feel needs to be said.  

Hope that site can re-develop and come back in the future. You did a good job Frog keeping people socialize on your meet and greets. It is a sad moment we are experiencing.

xox Jessica

 
Posted By: clairecavendish
I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??  
   
   
   
 ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??

 

ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

Although the details you are providing are slightly different (but not inconsistent) than the details I received.

What a shame, as it was a useful site...

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I could not believe my eyes.

Now I have the same feeling as if I lost my phone -- information, contacts, history all gone.

I also feel isolated. Their MO section was rich in information and opinions. Even as a mostly passive reader, I got a lot of useful insight about the hobby there. But above all, I got a sense of connection, a sense of what my peers are like. I will try to reconnect with a few over PM here, but it won't be the same as that forum.

Then there's the scary / worrisome part. But won't go into it here. Please understand the alias use.

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It is very disconcerting. Part of me wants to say... no biggie it was just a site. But I feel like I just lost something. My eyes and ears certainly. But also that community. Feels like I just lost a couple hundred friends.... at once. Depressed... I guess I feel a little depressed.

I agree. I also feel sad that this had to happen to such a generous man like Frog. Vice targeted the wrong site.

Nknow, I completely agree with you.  The feeling of loss is huge.  Friends, fun times, great mixers, interesting people - all gone.  It's crazy, but I immediately want to create a replacement.

I feel the same way. Perhaps we can have that arranged?

What's the likelihood they are encountering some type of DDOS attack (seem to be common these days) and the perp is blowing smoke up your backsides?

Yes, I also received this in my email box.

What a shame.
I've been a member since 2007

....at least that is what I am certain of. It is from someone who invites the rest of us to reply to the email in order to incriminate us if we actually replies or show up to court as suggested in that same email. The language is not even the same as what Frog would use in all his emails to all of us providers...

Do not reply to those emails unless you know more what is really going on!

This is what I think happened...there is a lot of turbulence going on. We can notice that from all the different sites going down. They recieved attention probably because of a former member reported them having underage providers. I do not know if there is any truth to it, but that is when vice will start to listen. Frog disclosed to me about a year ago that they recieved that accuse from a provider  that I use to do doubles with.

I do believe I know who is to blame for the site taken down. Same provider got kicked out of that site about a year ago. She recently got arrested. She claims she was on vacation (that is what her post says everywhere) but who gets a new phonenumber, website and new handle just because a "vacation"...unless they got in trouble? She moved from Clairemont to Escondido. To me it sounds she is trying to hide from something.

The same woman has numerous accounts under TER under similar names. It seems like she can not stay nice long enough and tries to hide her bad reviews by opening a new account.

This woman has no shame in doing anything that can be possibly be done to people she does not like. We use to do doubles together but I realized how evil and crazy she can be so I let her go. But she did not let me go. She tries very hard to get at me but unsuccesfully.

She seems super nice and it takes a while to realize something is loose "up there". Most people in San Diego knows this woman and I wish I could mention who she is so you stay away from her.  

She has stolen property from former clients she use to have, including pain medicine from people who needed them after surgery. She has done doubles with her own daughter which that by it self is a sign of unstable mind. Who does doubles with your own daughter? Can you imagine licking your daughters vagina? I can not! Its is upsetting!

I am very confident she is to be blaimed for San Diego´s best local site has been shut down. Shame on her. I wish her to get all the bad karma back double fold.

I rarely write anything on any boards and this is something that I feel needs to be said.  

Hope that site can re-develop and come back in the future. You did a good job Frog keeping people socialize on your meet and greets. It is a sad moment we are experiencing.

xox Jessica

 

Posted By: clairecavendish
I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??  
   
   
   
 ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

I also believe that someone other than admin wrote the email.  In fact, I got another this morning with a correction to the email address to use if interested in helping.  Either way, what a shame.

Posted By: JessicaSweden
....at least that is what I am certain of. It is from someone who invites the rest of us to reply to the email in order to incriminate us if we actually replies or show up to court as suggested in that same email. The language is not even the same as what Frog would use in all his emails to all of us providers...  
   
 Do not reply to those emails unless you know more what is really going on!  
   
 This is what I think happened...there is a lot of turbulence going on. We can notice that from all the different sites going down. They recieved attention probably because of a former member reported them having underage providers. I do not know if there is any truth to it, but that is when vice will start to listen. Frog disclosed to me about a year ago that they recieved that accuse from a provider  that I use to do doubles with.  
   
 I do believe I know who is to blame for the site taken down. Same provider got kicked out of that site about a year ago. She recently got arrested. She claims she was on vacation (that is what her post says everywhere) but who gets a new phonenumber, website and new handle just because a "vacation"...unless they got in trouble? She moved from Clairemont to Escondido. To me it sounds she is trying to hide from something.  
   
 The same woman has numerous accounts under TER under similar names. It seems like she can not stay nice long enough and tries to hide her bad reviews by opening a new account.  
   
 This woman has no shame in doing anything that can be possibly be done to people she does not like. We use to do doubles together but I realized how evil and crazy she can be so I let her go. But she did not let me go. She tries very hard to get at me but unsuccesfully.  
   
 She seems super nice and it takes a while to realize something is loose "up there". Most people in San Diego knows this woman and I wish I could mention who she is so you stay away from her.  
   
 She has stolen property from former clients she use to have, including pain medicine from people who needed them after surgery. She has done doubles with her own daughter which that by it self is a sign of unstable mind. Who does doubles with your own daughter? Can you imagine licking your daughters vagina? I can not! Its is upsetting!  
   
 I am very confident she is to be blaimed for San Diego´s best local site has been shut down. Shame on her. I wish her to get all the bad karma back double fold.  
   
 I rarely write anything on any boards and this is something that I feel needs to be said.  
   
 Hope that site can re-develop and come back in the future. You did a good job Frog keeping people socialize on your meet and greets. It is a sad moment we are experiencing.  
   
 xox Jessica  
   
   
   
Posted By: clairecavendish
I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??  
     
     
     
  ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

I was one of those who DID respond to offer help other than financial. I include my normal smart ass way of communicating with him since I've known him socially through the site for over 9 years. The response I received today included his normal witty repartee along with the normal in limbo, waiting for the slow wheels of the judicial system and when a defense plan is in place I will get a heads up if I am needed.
Those who do know him should offer to help with affidavits or testimonials. I know I will

Posted By: jbookwitness
I also believe that someone other than admin wrote the email.  In fact, I got another this morning with a correction to the email address to use if interested in helping.  Either way, what a shame.  
   
Posted By: JessicaSweden
....at least that is what I am certain of. It is from someone who invites the rest of us to reply to the email in order to incriminate us if we actually replies or show up to court as suggested in that same email. The language is not even the same as what Frog would use in all his emails to all of us providers...  
     
  Do not reply to those emails unless you know more what is really going on!  
     
  This is what I think happened...there is a lot of turbulence going on. We can notice that from all the different sites going down. They recieved attention probably because of a former member reported them having underage providers. I do not know if there is any truth to it, but that is when vice will start to listen. Frog disclosed to me about a year ago that they recieved that accuse from a provider  that I use to do doubles with.  
     
  I do believe I know who is to blame for the site taken down. Same provider got kicked out of that site about a year ago. She recently got arrested. She claims she was on vacation (that is what her post says everywhere) but who gets a new phonenumber, website and new handle just because a "vacation"...unless they got in trouble? She moved from Clairemont to Escondido. To me it sounds she is trying to hide from something.  
     
  The same woman has numerous accounts under TER under similar names. It seems like she can not stay nice long enough and tries to hide her bad reviews by opening a new account.  
     
  This woman has no shame in doing anything that can be possibly be done to people she does not like. We use to do doubles together but I realized how evil and crazy she can be so I let her go. But she did not let me go. She tries very hard to get at me but unsuccesfully.  
     
  She seems super nice and it takes a while to realize something is loose "up there". Most people in San Diego knows this woman and I wish I could mention who she is so you stay away from her.    
     
  She has stolen property from former clients she use to have, including pain medicine from people who needed them after surgery. She has done doubles with her own daughter which that by it self is a sign of unstable mind. Who does doubles with your own daughter? Can you imagine licking your daughters vagina? I can not! Its is upsetting!  
     
  I am very confident she is to be blaimed for San Diego´s best local site has been shut down. Shame on her. I wish her to get all the bad karma back double fold.  
     
  I rarely write anything on any boards and this is something that I feel needs to be said.    
     
  Hope that site can re-develop and come back in the future. You did a good job Frog keeping people socialize on your meet and greets. It is a sad moment we are experiencing.  
     
  xox Jessica  
     
     
     
Posted By: clairecavendish
I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??    
       
       
       
   ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

You're the second person to say that the emails were from Admin, so I guess I stand corrected.  Did he give you any sense whether any members/providers are at risk?  I know his email said everyone was safe, but just wondering on what that was based.  It sounds like his computers were seized.

Posted By: horneypie58
I was one of those who DID respond to offer help other than financial. I include my normal smart ass way of communicating with him since I've known him socially through the site for over 9 years. The response I received today included his normal witty repartee along with the normal in limbo, waiting for the slow wheels of the judicial system and when a defense plan is in place I will get a heads up if I am needed.  
 Those who do know him should offer to help with affidavits or testimonials. I know I will  
   
Posted By: jbookwitness
I also believe that someone other than admin wrote the email.  In fact, I got another this morning with a correction to the email address to use if interested in helping.  Either way, what a shame.  
     
Posted By: JessicaSweden
....at least that is what I am certain of. It is from someone who invites the rest of us to reply to the email in order to incriminate us if we actually replies or show up to court as suggested in that same email. The language is not even the same as what Frog would use in all his emails to all of us providers...    
       
   Do not reply to those emails unless you know more what is really going on!    
       
   This is what I think happened...there is a lot of turbulence going on. We can notice that from all the different sites going down. They recieved attention probably because of a former member reported them having underage providers. I do not know if there is any truth to it, but that is when vice will start to listen. Frog disclosed to me about a year ago that they recieved that accuse from a provider  that I use to do doubles with.    
       
   I do believe I know who is to blame for the site taken down. Same provider got kicked out of that site about a year ago. She recently got arrested. She claims she was on vacation (that is what her post says everywhere) but who gets a new phonenumber, website and new handle just because a "vacation"...unless they got in trouble? She moved from Clairemont to Escondido. To me it sounds she is trying to hide from something.    
       
   The same woman has numerous accounts under TER under similar names. It seems like she can not stay nice long enough and tries to hide her bad reviews by opening a new account.    
       
   This woman has no shame in doing anything that can be possibly be done to people she does not like. We use to do doubles together but I realized how evil and crazy she can be so I let her go. But she did not let me go. She tries very hard to get at me but unsuccesfully.    
       
   She seems super nice and it takes a while to realize something is loose "up there". Most people in San Diego knows this woman and I wish I could mention who she is so you stay away from her.    
       
   She has stolen property from former clients she use to have, including pain medicine from people who needed them after surgery. She has done doubles with her own daughter which that by it self is a sign of unstable mind. Who does doubles with your own daughter? Can you imagine licking your daughters vagina? I can not! Its is upsetting!    
       
   I am very confident she is to be blaimed for San Diego´s best local site has been shut down. Shame on her. I wish her to get all the bad karma back double fold.    
       
   I rarely write anything on any boards and this is something that I feel needs to be said.    
       
   Hope that site can re-develop and come back in the future. You did a good job Frog keeping people socialize on your meet and greets. It is a sad moment we are experiencing.    
       
   xox Jessica    
       
       
       
   
Posted By: clairecavendish
I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??    
         
         
         
    ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

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If the servers are in the U.S., they can get the content. If the servers are outside the U.S., they can force Frog to hand over the content.

Unless Frog somehow permanently deleted everything at the earliest chance. I give that a low likelihood. After all he still had everyone's e-mail address and user name.

I feel safe with TER because I vaguely remember reading it's based completely outside the U.S. (including servers). Can anyone confirm?

And does anyone know whether that popular "social networking" site is also based outside U.S.?

Don't accuse people of stuff without proof jessica.  It sounds like you had a personal problem with somebody and now you are publicly accusing her of something you have absolutely no proof of.  Just because somebody had a problem with frog a year ago does not mean that she had anything to do with this.

I know who you are talking about, and I know she certainly did have some health issues and finally had a surgery for it.   The recovery period is 6 to 8 weeks.

How could one person be responsible for Frogs arrest?  I know that's what the email said, but really?  What could anybody say that law enforcement doesn't know already from looking at the website?

I'm sure nobody is going to be the least bit surprised to find out that  LE is aware of and monitoring all of these sites.

 

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-- Modified on 6/9/2016 6:42:23 PM

I just found out that the same woman is helping vice in setting up stings in Holiday Inn in Escondido and twenty people got arrested so far. So clearly she is trying to get out of her legal problems by throwing her old clients under the bus!

She might have had a medical problem but you do not try to change your phone number, website, name and your home due to medical problems that is when you try to hide from something.  

Regardless there is reasons to stay away in order to be safe.

See your regular clients and your regular provider and stay away from hotels.  

Don´t panic or be paranoid. Does not get you anywhere.

These claims are nonsense.

This one Person is somehow responsible for the closing of our lost site and for 20 hobbyists getting arrested?  My goodness.  That is so hard to believe.  And I mean. REALLY!  

I know for a fact this provider has changed her personality online because of ongoing custody battles, and that she has had ongoing health reasons issues that she had a surgery for a needed to recover from. It's that simple.  

We don't need to go on a witchhunt.


-- Modified on 6/10/2016 10:42:34 AM

Jessica got arrested 3 yrs ago for prostitution and stole 40,000 from a man in wheel chair...and that escort bust is put on by jealous provider. Let's remember when you changed your identity to get custody of your kids...did any one call you a undercover vice? No but your jealousy and lying shows the kind of person you are. Grow up girl , being the loser gets you nowhere . Your being a trouble maker and clearing making slander .

First she borrowed 10k.
Second she is paying it back with interest.

Well that's not the original story that was known ,but you should know if someone has borrowed $ to buy a home 2 yrs ago and now getting it back. I wish you the best in retrieving it.

If anyone wants to know the facts here it is:

1. No I have NEVER been arrested, not in USA, and not in Sweden, or anywhere else for that matter. You are welcome to Google and see for your self. When I Google you I find several worrying information.

2. I was finishing an major construction project and needed to borrow about 10 000 to finish the renovations. Where JaquesItsch was nice enough to trust me to LEND me the money. It is equivalent with an construction loan since I pay him back with interest.  

I did find out from him that you borrowed a much larger amount and you never paid any of those money back. You had a double with your daughter (why would you do that?) plus traded some other time but you never paid any cash back. Plus you took his mom´s pain medicine that she needed after her surgery so she will not allow you to enter their home again. The rest of the money you owe you should pay back to him since he was so nice enough to lend you the money. You had to move from your home since you had problems with your neighbors. Since you are so busy with quickies and budget clients you always will attract too much traffic and will have to keep moving around. You borrowed money from him at least two years ago so you should at least start paying him back

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Posted By: JessicaSweden
If anyone wants to know the facts here it is:  
   
 1. No I have NEVER been arrested, not in USA, and not in Sweden, or anywhere else for that matter. You are welcome to Google and see for your self. When I Google you I find several worrying information.  
   
 2. I was finishing an major construction project and needed to borrow about 10 000 to finish the renovations. Where JaquesItsch was nice enough to trust me to LEND me the money. It is equivalent with an construction loan since I pay him back with interest.  
   
 I did find out from him that you borrowed a much larger amount and you never paid any of those money back. You had a double with your daughter (why would you do that?) plus traded some other time but you never paid any cash back. Plus you took his mom´s pain medicine that she needed after her surgery so she will not allow you to enter their home again. The rest of the money you owe you should pay back to him since he was so nice enough to lend you the money. You had to move from your home since you had problems with your neighbors. Since you are so busy with quickies and budget clients you always will attract too much traffic and will have to keep moving around. You borrowed money from him at least two years ago so you should at least start paying him back.  
   
 

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Oh boy! Even you need to borrow money?!? Times must be really tough for providers. Lol

It was a major construction project. I doubled the size of a house in Lemon Grove. Finishing work takes a lot more money than expected.

Posted By: Onlyalurker
Oh boy! Even you need to borrow money?!? Times must be really tough for providers. Lol

Your so crazy and everyone knows it...get a life and stop with the lies and bs. I guess this is what happens when you can't keep custody of your kids . You have NO LIFE.

Jessica has a agenda and needs a escape from what she  did ..blame the innocent...engineering is definitely not her specialty...her trailer brothel is. I have a friend with evidence.

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Has this been in the media yet?  
 
This was a board I enjoyed for trips to SD for FBSM - all consenting adults, yet another board admin arrested.  
 
Do not know full details,  LE didn't take over the board but the owner shut it down to protect members. There is a long history of San Diego arresting many massage owners, all related to consenting adults and the safety the massage parlors provided.  
 
"xxxx" (can't name here) is a community of escorts, hobbyists and service providers. Find escort reviews, site reviews, discussion boards, live chat and guides.  As the administrator says, "I hope this has not caused any problems for anyone and I hope you can find another safe place to post."  

The board has a note that it is permanently closed after the intro pages.
 
Dave notes: the ASP reference for new folks relates to the old alt.sex.prostitution newsgroup.  I was one of the first to coin the phrase GFE there, back in the days of pocket readers and 300 baud phone connections.  GFE had nothing to do with unhealthy and illegal sex acts in those days but has since been perverted to mean something different by many.

Nah, a quick Google perusal just shows the same SD north county busts from a year or two back.

I never was comfortable with the extensive menu options.

Selling our time as an escort is not illegal, but selling sex is prostitution.

My personal menu never consisted of anything lewd or sexual, only the other stuff. But every acronym that we know of was listed as a possible menu option on that site. I never thought that was a very good idea.

It would seem that the same burden of proof would apply to the extensive menus on the closed down site. After all, somebody else could've posted that information about us or it could've been something that we put up there several years ago and never bothered to take down.  It's not proof of prostitution or solicitation.  

I've also wondered if maybe there were some under aged girls on the site since he doesn't ask for IDs, does he?  Totally guessing.

What else could it be I wonder?

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Such a good community, lovely people, helpful info.  It will be sorely missed.  Awful for it to end based on one bad apple.  My thoughts go out to Frog.  I hope he has good representation.

I echo everyone else's comments here. Definitely felt like a community.  It will be missed.

Looks like it's been shut down and the owner is in some trouble.  Stay safe everyone

...and yeah, there's something fishy about it. I can believe that the site admin was arrested because a former member ratted him out, but the circumstances around the website closure and the emails themselves seem very odd.

I'd like to think (hope?) law enforcement doesn't have the resources to engage in a citywide fishing expedition with an extremely difficult burden of proof.  Unless I'm incorrect, I don't believe any of the massage parlor busts ever filtered down to customers or even the providers who worked there, just the site operators.

Posted By: FoxCar71
...and yeah, there's something fishy about it. I can believe that the site admin was arrested because a former member ratted him out, but the circumstances around the website closure and the emails themselves seem very odd.

So LE potentially have everyone's email address and past emails on the site, can anything happen to the members?  Subpoenas?  Show up at your door?

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Things LE doesn't have on me:
1. I never met anyone in person.
2. I never gave my real name or address. (Always paid with money order.)

Things LE has on me:
1. My user name, which is the same there and here. That's why I'm using an alias.
2. My home IP address.
3. My hobby e-mail, but it's operated by a Canadian company.
4. My hobby number.

I feel like none of the 4 above are low-hanging fruits, so hopefully they won't pursue it. But who knows.

Posted By: spacex
Things LE doesn't have on me:  
 1. I never met anyone in person.  
 2. I never gave my real name or address. (Always paid with money order.)  
   
 Things LE has on me:  
 1. My user name, which is the same there and here. That's why I'm using an alias.  
 2. My home IP address.  
 3. My hobby e-mail, but it's operated by a Canadian company.  
 4. My hobby number.  
   
 I feel like none of the 4 above are low-hanging fruits, so hopefully they won't pursue it. But who knows.
Spacex, thanks for the calm and reasoned assessment. As long as you're not that bozo in Mass who thought he was PMing a provider when he posted his home phone number online...

In situations like this you would have to think logically. There is nothing LE can do without you actually admitting to things when they ask.  

Think about this scenario:

Vice sets up stings because they need people to reply to the following questions....What kind of services will I get for this money? (example when vice set up stings to get providers arrested)

If we do not say anything to that question and walks away they will do NOTHING to you unless you took the money because then you get a ticket for escorting without a license. Escort license is issued by the police department by the way but you have to be working under an agency.

Anyway what I am trying to say is if LE can bust people merely due to knowing that you are writing things on websites like reviews etc then they would not need to set up stings. They could just browse the internet and bust everyone who is online by searching IP adresses.  

Calm down! LE do not have any authority to bust anyone merely due to info that they find online or connected to your phone or emails. It is part of your freedom of speech rule in this country.

The same reasoning goes for stings set up to bust John´s.

Be aware that you will not be free and clear to say I just do massage (or wanting a massage) because you have to have a massage license to perform those legally (or have to hire a licensed massage therapist). So in that case you can get a ticket for doing unlicensed massage (or hiring a unlicensed masseuse).  

So it is better to be quite, not say anything to these questions and just walk. Do not keep the money if you are an escort, just walk.

For those who has massage licenses you can get out of these situations to say you will perform a massage and show your license if you ended up in a sting.

Hope that cleared your minds!

xoxo Jessica

Posted By: daydreamingxxx
So LE potentially have everyone's email address and past emails on the site, can anything happen to the members?  Subpoenas?  Show up at your door?

....I had a neighbor hiring him. He had four DU:I´s and this lawyer got him six months rehab. No jail time! Unheard of!

http://www.grimesandwarwick.com/thomas-j-warwick-jr/

Frog I advice you to contact him. He knows me by Jessica as well as my real name, and you can say I referred you. No he was not a client and no I never been arrested. I just needed to ask for advice and had my neighbor hire him.

Best luck and stay strong. You will be dearly missed.

xoxo Jessica

Make sure it's not Michael Berg, who's next to worthless when it comes to criminal defense, ESPECIALLY if has anything to do with anyone caught up in Bonnie Dumanis' moral crusade of the day (which includes, of course, so-called "human trafficking"...)

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Also, it's important to remember that it is perfectly legal to have sex with a provider. After all, providers have sex with their husbands, boyfriends, friends, companions, whomever, without any problems. It's only illegal to pay for it. But unless you confess, le doesn't have a case.

Thank you. Beyond this situation it was very helpful.  Learned a lot about the law and its application that I didn't know.  And the prof was fun to watch.  That video then led me to a few "I don't answer questions" videos which were totally fascinating.

even though I hobby in SD, I don't live in that jurisdiction.  Also, TER is only site I'm on.

but if I did I certainly wouldn't respond.

Hope LE won't be looking out for me when I get there :(

Me too!  At first glance my heart was going out to him, then I read it again and thought, wait, that doesn't sound like him.  Too odd.  Felt that discretion was the better part of valor and left it at that.  Still a bit shocked though.

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So this things has been in my mind the whole day, and I've come up with some thoughts and questions. Some aren't directly related to the bust but are related to that site.

1. Obviously that site's mods have more reasons to be worried than the rest of us. Especially the deputy who ran a lot of day-to-day tasks. I wish him the best.

2. I remember frog once commented on the Albuquerque NM bust (if you don't know, search "Albuquerque professor prostitution") on what they did wrong. Ironic. Sad. I remember thinking at the time, "Is he sure he himself won't be targeted by LE someday?"

3. Do you think (or know) how much profit frog was making from the site? I'm just wondering if that will be a factor in the charges and sentencing. I remember once reading his post saying he didn't make any money off the site.

4. I never interacted with frog (not even online). I'm curious what he's like, and what people think of him.

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4. Frog has a good heart and wanted well with his site. He wanted us to be safe. He wanted people to have fun and get to know each other. We were his "family" it felt like. He is generous and spent the earnings on food on the meet and greets plus donations to providers who needed help when they got sick or hurt. So that what he probably meant by that he did not make any money from the site. Nice guy overall.

If the site is down forever then San Diego has lost a treasure and the business made a change for the worse. We will not be able to connect without his engagement.

Vice should focus on the bad parts of the business and this was clearly not the right choice to target this site.

Vice could even have worked with the site to make San Diego a more hobby/provider safe environment. Report sextrafficking etc (That is the approach Craigslist takes in order to stay up.)

So now things will be more in hiding than ever and that makes the business more unsafe. So my message to vice is that you just took several steps in the wrong direction. You can focus on targeting the bad parts of the business, instead you just removed something that was well functioning and helped doing good things. Disappointing!

Blaming one person or event is probably pointless, right? In the big scheme of things we were all contributors in some fashion. When something like this "blows up" it is the result of a combination of factors. Similar to what many of us do now when a family member passes, wouldn't it be far more pleasant to recall the good times and good people we met and communed with over the years as opposed to succumbing to depression and resorting to blame? Indulging in gossip? Just a thought... Lo

Michelle, you were certainly one of the good people/times I can remember thanks to that site!

Can we at least get initials of who she is?

Im going to go to one of the old haunts where we used to have our meet and greets and a have a drink or two in memory of the fun times we used to have there. Thanks Frog for making those great times and memories possible.

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No email for me....but checked my phone and I have some strange group text from some person saying they are from that site and they are available.  Several guys respnded in the group text with various responses.  Smells very bad....

We should just start charging for whatever we can... Forget the illegal issues..."you want to have chat?... That'll be 300$"

You want to step in my home? That will be 400$"... A game pf Fuseball? That will be 500$"

This will solve all of this illegal legal bs...

TTFN!

Posted By: clairecavendish
I just got an email from the guy running it saying he'd been arrested and FBI are onto it??  
   
   
   
 ADMIN:  DO NOT MENTION THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE - IT IS A BANNED SITE ON TER.  DO NOT START MULTIPLE THREADS OR ALL MAY BE REMOVED.

It has been a while sine I have been on TER, but necessity is the mother of re-invention.

I know, sad doesn't even begin to cover it...  Just the loss of "Community." not to mention the ladies

AKA NutzFull

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I am going to miss the occasional north coast coastal happy hour get-togethers where we would watch the sun set

Ditto for me, though being based in a more southerly direction the central SD HHs and mixers will be sorely missed.  I also didn't think to save numbers. (aka Londonman)

It will be interesting to see where the providers turn to next to advertise.  I know many used that site exclusively.

I should have saved a few numbers.  That site was so reliable for so long.  My loss

Posted By: jbookwitness
It will be interesting to see where the providers turn to next to advertise.  I know many used that site exclusively.

I rarely hobby these days, but after many years (8yrs?!) off and on that site, i'll miss the community, information, humor, and the ladies that seem exclusive to the site.  I find myself instinctively looking for the shortcut on my browser, only to realize I deleted it.  

Though, as they say, nothing lasts for ever, I didn't think the site would ... well, end.  It has left a void in more ways, and levels, than just a site going down.

I hope the ladies and gents out there find a new safe harbor!

 

Posted By: jbookwitness
It will be interesting to see where the providers turn to next to advertise.  I know many used that site exclusively.

my sentiments exactly and for all of those aka's from the other site that are so easily recognizable for me; I'll never remember the new handles but your honesty in MO was the best for safe hobbying.

aka as horneypie58

Posted By: knightlife402
I rarely hobby these days, but after many years (8yrs?!) off and on that site, i'll miss the community, information, humor, and the ladies that seem exclusive to the site.  I find myself instinctively looking for the shortcut on my browser, only to realize I deleted it.    
   
 Though, as they say, nothing lasts for ever, I didn't think the site would ... well, end.  It has left a void in more ways, and levels, than just a site going down.  
   
 I hope the ladies and gents out there find a new safe harbor!  
   
   
   
Posted By: jbookwitness
It will be interesting to see where the providers turn to next to advertise.  I know many used that site exclusively.

Very similar when the nor cal site went down last year. It left a huge hole. But alas, another site took its place and appears is florishing.

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I wonder what evidence they seized on computers and other media?

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Frog despised the other guy. And the sting targeted them together.

Ewe... "A web site for negotiations"... (?) ... Now that is illegal... Had no awareness of this...

Posted By: AnnabellaLee

I was on that site for 8 years almost... I'm really going to miss the community. I'm also going to miss all the semi-retired providers that I still had phone/email information for in my PM box. Lastly I'm going to miss the hundy I spent about 3 weeks ago to renew my membership for a year.  Being able to pay cash at a happy hour for membership dues made things SO much easier.  

Haven't been on TER but maybe a handful of times in 5 years, but here I am!  Glad that some of the providers and hobbyists use the same name here so I still see a little familiarity.

Claire,
Please tell me what board. Thx.

What was it, a year or two ago that we also lost a FBSM board who's name rimed with "fist" that was also a good resource for finding safe providers.

That board was close to useless, nobody missed a thing.

Maybe you had trouble reading comments from those that will miss that particular board. Sorry that you found it useless. Many obviously found it useful.  

Posted By: ShorelineAmpVIP
That board was close to useless, nobody missed a thing.

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