So i guess that puts my boy toys between 35 & 55 lol.
Made me giggle my lil hiney off. Great post! GThe youngins are just too aggressive for my my old bones, and the ones 65 and under are still young enough to make me feel like the dirty old lady I am.
As a hobbyist do you prefer the provider be older, younger, or about the same age as yourself?
Let me answer your question this way. "Have you seen what even the best looking 57 year old women look like?"
I am pretty sure you can figure out my answer from there.
Indeed. You leave little room for interpretation.
At this stage of my life I seem to seek out women between 25 and 35 years younger than me. I will occasionally go a little younger or older than that range, but that's my "sweet spot" where it comes to women. BTW that applies to civvies as well as P4P although I am much more likely to stretch my range up to about 20 years younger than me when talking about non hookers.
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like you're being treated differently now by these young ones than you were, say, 10 years ago, because of your age?
At 83,I'll let you figure it out 
And I drop to my knees every night to my sky daddy and thank him for that. LOL
But I like to play with the younger set. Primarily 23-28, but I don't have hard and fast rules about going a tad lower or higher for the right girl.
I never play with the 18-20 y.o. nor the 40+ crowd but who ever really knows exact ages here
I still play with the 18-20 year olds, but I do prefer a lady at least be old enough to join me at the bar though. as for the 40+ crowd, Yes I have done so, but it's a rarity and it has to be an exceptional woman to catch my eye at 40+ and most of them have been Asian women advertised as mid twenties. lol
You and Fish will be hanging on the 60+ board in just a few short years and some hooker will be spoon feeding you your dinner. LOL
Then you will have only me to tell you about the latest hottie that I low balled and nailed to the wall.
Don't worry, when I come to visit you in the home, Ill have a fresh box of Godiva's for you. Almost unopened. LOL
I will still be fucking 25 year olds for years after they put your white ass in the ground.
and just what's wrong with having a hooker spoon feeding you dinner? I don't need to wait until I get sent to the old folks home in another 40-50 years to get that kind of treatment.
One of the johns recently stated here he threw up after his hooker fed him. You know, a typical ATF type session.
To be fair though, she did say she was using a straw so that may have contributed to the mishap.
Who says my tattooed ass is "white". "Superior Asian Genes?" What? Did you wake up Japanese? I should have been put into the ground already, but until they do I'll be fucking 25 year olds until then. It's not the dinner spoon feeding so much as the diaper change that's gonna suck. Hopefully, your mind will go before then. Cheers!😎
and just what's wrong with having a hooker spoon feeding you dinner? I don't need to wait until I get sent to the old folks home in another 40-50 years to get that kind of treatment.
and I am hardly Japanese,
Most people think my mind has already left the building, so how will we tell the difference?
Hell, I met him. I prefer that sweet spot of 25ish, but I'll go older for quality. I rarely go for 18's because they are usually younger and I don't want to run into Johnny Law. He accepts no excuses and I have better things to spend my money on than lawyers. BTW I haven't met too many Asian females that age well past 40. They all start to do a Connie Chung slide into homely. I think it's because God hates Asians.
Middle age for Asian women is measured in minutes not years. Most go from being young and hot all the way through their forties until one day you turn around and WHAM, there is Connie Chung staring at you. lol
Your God might hate Asians, but whoever is upstairs pulling the strings sure seems to be on our side, not yours. Besides learning Spanish, all your round eyed people better start learning Mandarin as well. The Chinks are coming!!! The Chinks are coming!!! and they aren't coming with guns, they are coming with checkbooks in hand. lmao
You do realize that Chinese is one of the most difficult languages to learn in the world. I think they do it on purpose. They are "coming"? Have you been to a Walmart lately? Everything on the shelves has Made in China on it. I remember when every cheap piece of crap had Made in Japan on it. WTF? So that's what's coming. As long as I can still order cheap Chinese take out,I don't care what happens. You will be stuck here with President Trump. I'll just beat feet across the pond with my dual citizenship and EU passport and watch the show from afar.
Your God might hate Asians, but whoever is upstairs pulling the strings sure seems to be on our side, not yours. Besides learning Spanish, all your round eyed people better start learning Mandarin as well. The Chinks are coming!!! The Chinks are coming!!! and they aren't coming with guns, they are coming with checkbooks in hand. lmao
If America ever starts to suck, don't look to Europe to be any better. They will be in worse shape than us at that point.
Yes, look at what Japan did, and then remember just how many times bigger China is.
Personally I can live with a President Trump and as contradictory as it sounds I can also be quite happy in a "Brown" America, it's you "white folk" who have everything to lose. lol I am an employer not an employee, so cheap wages don't bother me. I grew up in a mainly Chicano neighborhood and I already spend much of my time in Latin America, so the "browning" of the US is just fine with me.
BTW, there is more to Chinese food than cheap takeout. You should try some "real" Chinese food sometime, you might be surprised how "upscale" Chinese food can be. Even a small bowl of shark fin soup will run you about sixty bucks nowadays, If you can even find it that is.
Yeah but it won't be here. I found something you can laugh about ... Relax its all gonna be good.
Yes, look at what Japan did, and then remember just how many times bigger China is.
Personally I can live with a President Trump and as contradictory as it sounds I can also be quite happy in a "Brown" America, it's you "white folk" who have everything to lose. lol I am an employer not an employee, so cheap wages don't bother me. I grew up in a mainly Chicano neighborhood and I already spend much of my time in Latin America, so the "browning" of the US is just fine with me.
BTW, there is more to Chinese food than cheap takeout. You should try some "real" Chinese food sometime, you might be surprised how "upscale" Chinese food can be. Even a small bowl of shark fin soup will run you about sixty bucks nowadays, If you can even find it that is.
If you are non white and you have to ask if you can use the word nigger around your black friends, then trust me "You can't".
It's kind of like that line "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" Same principle, some non black people can use the word and not only get away with it, but no one even thinks twice about it. Other people take their lives in their hands every time they say it. I guess maybe hooker is one of those words too, not to the same degree of course, but the same "type" of thing
As long as they are not yet middle ages and women they can pay me as much as they want 
Asian women seem to age very well IMO. She's 68 in this pic and looks late 50's, and a good late 50's. She is not homely.
:-/
and by no means do I find her sexually attractive at that age.
I do hope I age as well as her, or as well as my mother. You've seen what my mother looks like who is pushing 80, and that's what I meant by those "superior Asian genes" lol Drew is a bit dense I suppose, so maybe I should cut the slow kid some slack.
BTW Connie Chung is most definitely not "homely", Old yes, homely no.
I would take Pam Gier, Rosie Perez and Halle Berry anyday.
Also I would fuck Connie Chung no problem and who cares if she is a older woman!
I do hope I age as well as her, or as well as my mother. You've seen what my mother looks like who is pushing 80, and that's what I meant by those "superior Asian genes" lol Drew is a bit dense I suppose, so maybe I should cut the slow kid some slack.
BTW Connie Chung is most definitely not "homely", Old yes, homely no.
Like drool all over yourself for example
Even when I am ninety I can't imagine fucking a 68 year old. Are you sure you aren't attracted to her because her age matches your IQ?
Also she is a lot older so what?
She is still a sexy older woman.
I sure all of these young providers love fucking your old ass GaGambler. Lol
Even when I am ninety I can't imagine fucking a 68 year old. Are you sure you aren't attracted to her because her age matches your IQ?
But Drew is just being a jag off with his comments about Asian women in general an saying Connie Chung is homely is fucktarded!
Steph xoxo
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and maybe you are right about Drew
Why not ask your "Sky Daddy"?
But I like to play with the younger set. Primarily 23-28, but I don't have hard and fast rules about going a tad lower or higher for the right girl.
I never play with the 18-20 y.o. nor the 40+ crowd but who ever really knows exact ages here?
on me tho. My basic requirement is a smokin body and to die for skills. Certain NC MILFs and a FL wonder woman are currently on
my global radar. Wish me luck .... bon voyage wishes accepted ...
Can you supply a list of the 60+ hookers you have seen? LOL
Seems you like to play in the same sand box as me and I don't see any blue hairs on your list of bedded hotties! 
I'm looking for the provider who is between the ages of 30-39. Single mom's in this world who are wild in the bedroom. The girl's I have the most fun with are over 30. I can only think of one exception. I remember seeing a provider who I thought was 31 on the date she told me she was 39. You can never tell with age but I like under 40 but over 30.
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As I've said before, I enjoy young gals with mature attitudes and mature gals with young attitudes
I have only fucked girls into their 50s though the rest along the way yea lol.
Deaf, dumb (not very PC BTW) or blind? You Sick Bastard! Get this man a drink on me!! LOL
My wife is 65.. and my girlfriend is 22.. who gives a damn.. it works for me.. I was with a girl 25 last week and a month or so ago was with one who was 53.. they all work the same.. the only one I won't touch is my wife..
I am not an old broken down ass of a man. That said I have only seen women younger than me. Not 18-20 yo, but younger than 40. I prefer women that know what they want and know what they are doing.
and had a great time. Age is largely just a number, and other qualities generally matter more to me.
I have had a great time with ladies from late teens to mid 50's - the entire range you have mentioned.
I don't get caught up in someone else's concept of "age-appropriate" or their judgements when I am having dinner with a much younger woman. If they are that interested, I'd be happy to offer them a picture!
Just enjoy the ladies you like and don't worry about what others think.
A quick look at the ladies he has reviewed seems to put their average age around 25, just a tad south of the ladies in their 50's he states to like as well. LOL
Here's the rub. Guys will say one thing and do another. Not the greatest crime, I will admit.
Zen is just being nice bc he is a nice guy.
But we all know he really likes the young hotties.
For some reason he took the PC approach here as he is apt to do on occasion.
As is his choice.
I love mature experience woman.
They just know how to take care of man in the bedroom.
The younger woman are good, but nothing can replace experience of mature MILF!
For my partner as determined by my age at a given time.
Take my current age
Divide by 2
Add 22
Subtract half my age.
A = my current age
A
( _____ + 22 ) - (0.5A) = ideal age
2
No argument here!
Hey, my formula has always worked for me!
Looks like you formula works for me too.
Of course you did lol.
I You got some esplainin' to do lol
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...but only after a very lengthy and unique verification process.
I think you would have loved it as you think outside the box.
As a lady, I prefer the gentleman to be older, younger, or about the same age as myself
In all seriousness, I've seen the gamut being right in the middle ... from to 19 to 70 yo and had a great time with each and every one. And of course each in their own unique way which is what keeps it fresh and exciting.
To base your preference on a # is just silly in my opinion. I think its kinda funny, but you boys are the ones doing the driving...so more power to ya. Every # is a lucky # here anyway, isn't it?
Seems like a normal thing and I don't think silliness plays a part. If a 25 y.o. John wants to see a 60 y.o. Escort, I wouldn't call it silly at all.
Not my thing but not silly Gia.
anymore than it is for a younger guy to be attracted to an older woman. Trust me i get it, the equations make complete sense.
What "is" silly to me is to judge anyone here based on a # spelled out by any provider or hobbyist on who to see or choose to see. For instance, you claim all of us older women lie profusely about our age and fudge it by 5, 10, 15 years which is why many of you won't see us...well who's to say the younger women aren't doing the same? So i guess its directed for the gentlemen like yourself, who only book the younger women thinking they are getting younger just because her #s say they are. That's what is silly to me, not the dynamics. You misinterpreted i think.
Maybe just book cause you like the person, not because her # is under a certain code you abide by.
G
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I don't claim to know what all women do just as you can't claim you know what all John's do. I can tell you I know fact certain many girls do fudge there ages.
I am very suspect of a woman who says they are 29 or 39. I generally add in 5 years to those figures as that is what my experience tells me.
Fortunately, I get good intel bc by pm so I don't get surprised as much as when I first started.
Yes, a youthful appearance, to start, is attractive to me. But it's not something I feel I can control nor do I want to.
Anyway, it is nice to see you posting again and I hope I see more of it.
I have to agree that in this world, the numbers mean even less when fudging is rampant, but it's rampant because that's what much of the market wants.
Even if everyone posted their true age, aging is so variable. There is an infamous 29-year old actress who looks about 20 years older than her actual age, and I know an 87-year old woman who could easily pass for late 50s in both personality as well as her skin tone & beauty.
To me, it is one thing to show a "product" in its best possible light. Photography done by a good photog is just one example.
It is quite another to misrepresent the product. To lie about food by putting bogus "sell by" date is deceptive.
Just because the market may want youth, a reputable person or business should not stoop to deceit to sell its goods.
I would hope we can agree to that.
How appropriate that you used the example of a sell-by date when those are known to be made up by the food industry & have nothing to do with safety. At best, they are an estimate. However, they are very effective in making people think something is past its prime, and many people (and stores) throw food away at the "best by" or "sell by" date even if something is perfectly good (and of course, depending on storage, things can go bad before the sell by date).
Those who choose not to engage in deception are making a decision that will affect their bottom-line negatively, and in the business world, that wouldn't go over well with most investors. Not all ladies can make that financial sacrifice, either, and they are guilty of nothing more than what Proctor and Gamble does.
Maybe you are in the minority as I think most don't want their perishables misrepresented.
What about rolling back the odometer on buying a used car? You ok with that? I would think not as I think if you were the buyer you would think you were defrauded.
The logic you use about Procter and Gamble is absurd as that argument could be used to screw p4p gals out of their money by pointing to Enron.
If I shorted your envelope would you be cool with me saying other people do it so I can too?
Some how I doubt it. LOL
First, please show me where I said I liked misrepresentation. I'd prefer an honest world, and I'd like to be able to believe everything I hear or read, but I live in reality, and whether I personally like/do something has nothing to do with what actually happens in general.
Secondly, sell-by dates are mostly unregulated. From my USDA link below: "There is no uniform or universally accepted system used for food dating in the United States. Although dating of some foods is required by more than 20 states, there are areas of the country where much of the food supply has some type of open date and other areas where almost no food is dated."
Also, I was referring to non-perishables and **manufacturer** determined dates which are estimates, not visibly browned & soggy lettuce or sour milk. Canned foods, except for very acidic items, can last for a very, very long time. It may be gross to think about, but it's the truth, so all the dates on those items have little meaning. People will still religiously throw things out, though.
However, even if you want to get really technical, only a few perishables like eggs and milk are regulated by some (not all) states, but other most perishables are not regulated at all, and there is no consistency among states. Even in the few cases where it is regulated, those dates are frequently arbitrarily or archaically determined, so in the end, the sell by dates don't have much meaning.
I said that when companies can get away with manipulative or misleading ads, they will, and I could give countless examples of manipulative ads, with some P&G products if you insist, but I think most people already are aware that many ads are manipulative and/or deceptive. Those ads are usually still effective because, in general, humans are quite gullible. I don't see how comparing one industry's ads to another's is absurd.
When you said "Not all ladies can make that financial sacrifice, either, and they are guilty of nothing more than what Proctor and Gamble does."
That is giving a green light for the ladies to do what fortune 500 companies do. Deception should never be justified no matter WHO does it and yet here you are making a long winded defense of what the ladies do or should I say what some ladies do.
You skipped over my rolling back of the odometer example to give me a 20 minute lecture on what I exactly told you I.e. SOME states regulate perishables.
I haven't seen you yet say that ladies that lie to guys about their age are being deceptive. I am not going to say it is the worst crime in the world but it is being deceptive no matter how many other companies you can point to are doing it.
Bad behavior is never justified by pointing to other bad behavior. Professionals don't do that. They stiff arm the pack and do the right thing.
Thanks for the debate. It was fun and you clearly are an intelligent woman. Take care. Jack
I want to make it clear that while I like honest marketing, the fact of the matter is that it's easy for me to say that since I'm not 100% dependent on the hobby and don't mind appealing to a niche market. What about those with hefty tuition expenses or the sole responsibility of children or elderly parents to care for? What about those who have some other monetary goal in mind? The moral high ground is not where one finds the most financially successful people, either; it's a place for those obstinate enough to sacrifice for principles.
Even though you don't see it, some are only guilty of using the same kind of advertising techniques practiced by large companies (for example, an "eco" cleaning product that's not really that eco but the consumer thinks it's eco and is happy); that is, they are smart marketers. If a lady can pass for younger and uses her "appearance" age instead of her real age, she WILL get more business because of the priority so many place on the stated age of the lady. I also think from a reviewer standpoint that most don't care about the real age as long as she meets their expectations. That's why I say the market gets what it wants...
...it doesn't justify it for anyone else. I would agree that IF a women can pass for a younger lady that is less of misrepresentation but it isn't those ladies we are talking about is it?
We are referring to the ones where it is rampant and grossly inaccurate. You and I both know that goes on and I am sure in those cases you would wish for those particular women to stop as I would call for the guys to never decieve the ladies.
It is a two way street and I am not just singling out the woman as imo, the guys breach the professional barrier more so than the women, at least,in my experience and in much worse ways.
Thanks again Kerri!
is convinced we are always lying anyway...when the truth is, maybe we aren't. Its really a losing battle either way Imo so why fight the fight.
Whether anyone here is telling the truth or not is beside the point. It seems to be a preconceived notion to not believe anything here anyway. That's the point.
Maybe we can simply agree on that.
G xo
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You are speaking in more of an absolute than I would frame it but fundamentally you are correct.
It kinda is a chicken or egg thing. Many women here do perceive an age bias and the reason for that is there is one. Most men want a women p4p wise to be younger and in some cases much younger.
I guess there is line to be drawn with the deception as I was trying to point out to Kerri. A 43 year old claiming to be 38 but has the look to back it up really isn't decieving to any real extent.
Those women I don't have a big problem with. It's more the 43 year old claiming to be 38 that looks 52 is the crux of the problem.
Most of this is largely eliminated by guys who do the proper pre session research and with me it can be exhaustive at times but "the hunt" as we say, is very exciting and fun. Well it is to me.
But to be clear I no more like the gents deception than I do the ladies. This isn't a gender issue with me at all.
...wouldn't dream of visiting the 18-20-year-olds -- just too young for my comfort. I know of a 55-year-old that I would visit in a heartbeat if I ever get back to her city.
I tend to gravitate toward the 28-34 crowd, but have some wonderful exceptions!
Who have not, as of now, been born yet.
So that probably gives you your answer right there.
Are all more important than age.
I'm 53 and seen awesome ladies in their mid-forties. I've seen fitness model quality women in their mid-30s and disappointed by a 20-something that could loose a few or doesn't know how to give a decent handjob.