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Re: My past keeps me in the hobby
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No the opposite. I won't commit another crime. I have been clean for 13 years.

the thrill of meeting new people? convenience? ego? money?  

I quit industry once before for a sugar daddy i fell in love with. After break up I tried to date civies and some more sugar dating before returning to the industry.  Dating is BRUTAL! it is very time consuming and exhausting...especially given the fact that i only date guys over 40, they all have baggage or super busy and just want to get laid and wake up 5am the next morning and rush to the office...if you are a pretty girl, guys will say anything to fuck you, they come up with strategy how to get you to bed in the least amount of time and move on to the next conquest ...once they fuck you, you are no longer a mystery and they are off to mate another gal...chivalry is dead for the most part nowadays...

Returning to industry made my life so much simpler. The risk of being used and dumped is no longer there. Moreover,  i know from the providers side even if you are not addicted to drugs or alcohol, money could be addictive. Do other providers see it the same way?  

For mongers, if you make over certain amount, hobbying seem be cheaper in a long run than sexless marriage with a messy divorce that will leave you in financial ruins and with trust issues?

thoughts?

But there is a place for a serious relationship involving some kind of commitment to allow for the raising of children, etc.

Once that's done and over, then it's time to blow it out and enjoy - piggy bank and body willing.

That said, there is really no good reason why partners can't share their sexuality with others.  See the article I'm going to post right after this

I agree. Dating is messy, time consuming, and some of us simply aren't very good at relationships.

Personally I enjoy meeting new girls depending on what I'm in the mood for.

 
Having said that...there is something to be said for finding someone you can actually tolerate being around, building a foundation and having a partner who is more than instant gratification.

I know some members here have some semblance of a relationship with their ATF's, but in general the P4P arena is more about casual, fleeting exchanges.

Being a broke, whiny entitled millennial.  

Seriously, I get a mini date with someone I could potentially admire and respect as well as  supplemental income when my civie job isn't enough

I found the hobby a little later in life and am still amazed at the opportunity to meet beautiful women that you know you are going to "score" with. I like to have an ATF or a go to girl that you build a rapport with and anticipate a wonderful meeting each time and it never gets dull.
  On the other hand when you see all the touring ladies that peak your interest that are on your bucket list just makes it even better!!! Fortunately my schedule is horrible and am unable to see everyone I want to or I would be broke in no time!!!!

if monogamy was natural then we would not survive as society this long, due to the fact so many illness and wars wiped out such a large number of people throughout the history

however, we all have unique personality and i have been in relationship with a person who was infatuated by me and his eyes were always on me even if we were in public surrounded by many young women...this type of guys are rare but they are out there...and i met him through the hobby, he was a widower...

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I dont think this type of guys are rare.  I think they are very common. It's just rare that guy can find the right woman.  If they found one, they are all like this.  

Posted By: octavia.lexa
 
   
 if monogamy was natural then we would not survive as society this long, due to the fact so many illness and wars wiped out such a large number of people throughout the history  
   
 however, we all have unique personality and i have been in relationship with a person who was infatuated by me and his eyes were always on me even if we were in public surrounded by many young women...this type of guys are rare but they are out there...and i met him through the hobby, he was a widower...

you have a point  

Posted By: rollaxroll
I dont think this type of guys are rare.  I think they are very common. It's just rare that guy can find the right woman.  If they found one, they are all like this.  
   
Posted By: octavia.lexa
 
     
  if monogamy was natural then we would not survive as society this long, due to the fact so many illness and wars wiped out such a large number of people throughout the history  
     
  however, we all have unique personality and i have been in relationship with a person who was infatuated by me and his eyes were always on me even if we were in public surrounded by many young women...this type of guys are rare but they are out there...and i met him through the hobby, he was a widower...

a sure thing with someone I pick that does what I like.
Its a money over time ratio.

I genuinely believe that as humans we are not monogamous by nature. Although I am married and still enjoy sex with my wife, I crave a variety of sex partners.  

Or maybe I'm just a nymphomaniac :D

If ever I decide to marry, it will be her. The brains, agreeing to have variety and the balls to the wall (boobs to the roof in this case, I don't know) sex is what has me following her around like a lost puppy.

TheApe367 reads

This is the reality.  In fact, the sex in the hobby often improves your sexual performance with the wife.  No one wants to admit it but this is true.

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It's funny I told a girl the other day I still hobby because I'm broken. What 32 do you know who can pick up the prettiest girl in Webster Hall and not pay a penny. Yet I feel more comfortable paying a provider with money I can't afford.  

In my mind the above says it all.  

If I thought I could get the women I seek I wouldn't be here. I'm looking for someone to accept me for my past and someone who is going to believe in me and challenge me to be better. I go from job to job because getting the job I want I would need to start the company. I don't have money but hobby because on some level it calms me down and relaxes me its the only illegal activity I'm still a part of.  

All my financial problems could be fixed by doing one job yet I promised my mom I would never commit another crime.

I'm not breaking that promise.  

No I don't need a shrink so don't say it cause I don't want to hear it.  

People in the hobby are more sexually opened minded and more forgiving than women in the real worl

All of that was slightly disjointed.
But if i understand you need someone to help you pull off ONE LAST JOB...I'm your guy. I'll be your wheelman.

You can trust me.

Posted By: Z83
It's funny I told a girl the other day I still hobby because I'm broken. What 32 do you know who can pick up the prettiest girl in Webster Hall and not pay a penny. Yet I feel more comfortable paying a provider with money I can't afford.    
   
 In my mind the above says it all.  
   
 If I thought I could get the women I seek I wouldn't be here. I'm looking for someone to accept me for my past and someone who is going to believe in me and challenge me to be better. I go from job to job because getting the job I want I would need to start the company. I don't have money but hobby because on some level it calms me down and relaxes me its the only illegal activity I'm still a part of.  
   
 All my financial problems could be fixed by doing one job yet I promised my mom I would never commit another crime.  
   
 I'm not breaking that promise.  
   
 No I don't need a shrink so don't say it cause I don't want to hear it.  
   
 People in the hobby are more sexually opened minded and more forgiving than women in the real world  
   
   
   
 

Z83465 reads

No the opposite. I won't commit another crime. I have been clean for 13 years.

it is not a crime...

Posted By: Z83
It's funny I told a girl the other day I still hobby because I'm broken. What 32 do you know who can pick up the prettiest girl in Webster Hall and not pay a penny. Yet I feel more comfortable paying a provider with money I can't afford.    
   
 In my mind the above says it all.  
   
 If I thought I could get the women I seek I wouldn't be here. I'm looking for someone to accept me for my past and someone who is going to believe in me and challenge me to be better. I go from job to job because getting the job I want I would need to start the company. I don't have money but hobby because on some level it calms me down and relaxes me its the only illegal activity I'm still a part of.  
   
 All my financial problems could be fixed by doing one job yet I promised my mom I would never commit another crime.  
   
 I'm not breaking that promise.  
   
 No I don't need a shrink so don't say it cause I don't want to hear it.  
   
 People in the hobby are more sexually opened minded and more forgiving than women in the real world  
   
   
   
 

I guess my reasoning is searching for that 1.  That 1 that can grant me total fulfillment of everything that I am looking for in a provider. By that I mean, someone willing to let go of the normal provider barriers of "it's just a job" or "if I show too much emotion or I am too friendly then I may lead him on." I am a mature male and I understand that this is an arrangement and nothing more, but that is hard to come by.  I agree that dating is draining.  I enjoy the thrill of meeting someone new, the rush of opening the door to my fantasy, and hobbying is very convenient.   Maybe TMI, lol, but thats my reasoning.

Posted By: octavia.lexa
the thrill of meeting new people? convenience? ego? money?  
   
 I quit industry once before for a sugar daddy i fell in love with. After break up I tried to date civies and some more sugar dating before returning to the industry.  Dating is BRUTAL! it is very time consuming and exhausting...especially given the fact that i only date guys over 40, they all have baggage or super busy and just want to get laid and wake up 5am the next morning and rush to the office...if you are a pretty girl, guys will say anything to fuck you, they come up with strategy how to get you to bed in the least amount of time and move on to the next conquest ...once they fuck you, you are no longer a mystery and they are off to mate another gal...chivalry is dead for the most part nowadays...  
   
 Returning to industry made my life so much simpler. The risk of being used and dumped is no longer there. Moreover,  i know from the providers side even if you are not addicted to drugs or alcohol, money could be addictive. Do other providers see it the same way?    
   
 For mongers, if you make over certain amount, hobbying seem be cheaper in a long run than sexless marriage with a messy divorce that will leave you in financial ruins and with trust issues?  
   
 thoughts?

Even if u thought u met that person. U would never think she's the one. Simply cuz she will keep taking ur money lol.

Not necessarily true, ,maybe for some more close minded individuals.  There are good qualities in providers.  And I have made some very good friends with a handful of them.    

Posted By: TS Sasha
Even if u thought u met that person. U would never think she's the one. Simply cuz she will keep taking ur money lol.

sexy women like you..

Posted By: octavia.lexa
the thrill of meeting new people? convenience? ego? money?  
   
 I quit industry once before for a sugar daddy i fell in love with. After break up I tried to date civies and some more sugar dating before returning to the industry.  Dating is BRUTAL! it is very time consuming and exhausting...especially given the fact that i only date guys over 40, they all have baggage or super busy and just want to get laid and wake up 5am the next morning and rush to the office...if you are a pretty girl, guys will say anything to fuck you, they come up with strategy how to get you to bed in the least amount of time and move on to the next conquest ...once they fuck you, you are no longer a mystery and they are off to mate another gal...chivalry is dead for the most part nowadays...  
   
 Returning to industry made my life so much simpler. The risk of being used and dumped is no longer there. Moreover,  i know from the providers side even if you are not addicted to drugs or alcohol, money could be addictive. Do other providers see it the same way?    
   
 For mongers, if you make over certain amount, hobbying seem be cheaper in a long run than sexless marriage with a messy divorce that will leave you in financial ruins and with trust issues?  
   
 thoughts?

thank you, macdaddy:)blush

Posted By: macdaddy1944
sexy women like you..  
   
Posted By: octavia.lexa
the thrill of meeting new people? convenience? ego? money?    
     
  I quit industry once before for a sugar daddy i fell in love with. After break up I tried to date civies and some more sugar dating before returning to the industry.  Dating is BRUTAL! it is very time consuming and exhausting...especially given the fact that i only date guys over 40, they all have baggage or super busy and just want to get laid and wake up 5am the next morning and rush to the office...if you are a pretty girl, guys will say anything to fuck you, they come up with strategy how to get you to bed in the least amount of time and move on to the next conquest ...once they fuck you, you are no longer a mystery and they are off to mate another gal...chivalry is dead for the most part nowadays...  
     
  Returning to industry made my life so much simpler. The risk of being used and dumped is no longer there. Moreover,  i know from the providers side even if you are not addicted to drugs or alcohol, money could be addictive. Do other providers see it the same way?    
     
  For mongers, if you make over certain amount, hobbying seem be cheaper in a long run than sexless marriage with a messy divorce that will leave you in financial ruins and with trust issues?  
     
  thoughts?

FIDCUOF468 reads

The bottom line is beautiful women with NO strings attached.  No emails, texts or phone call after a great night with a hot women.

But I hate dating with a passion. I prefer this lifestyle so much more.

#blunthonesty

Posted By: terrilynn
Money,  cock and friendship :)

Terrilynn, just wondering do you get along better with men than women? Also I think you also like it because you can double your pleasure. First monetarily and second sexually.

I get along with both and I enjoy being with a woman but there has to be a cock in the room ;)

in my opinion is disconnecting emotions as you see the person more than a few times and become comfortable with each other.  I can say that I have failed with this challenge.

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Without trying any therapy's, lube, anything.....she decided on her own to close up shop.

I have tried and tried to seduce, romance, and encourage a reopening...but not in the cards.

So....While not young I am young enough to keep on going.  The thought of me never having sex again to be monogamous is unsustainable.

ditto.. & I'm sure many of us started that way.. exactly that way.. now it's sort of making up for lost time before I close up shop..

this is much less drama than owning a civie business
i own a civie business and it is very stressful and a lot of work that never ends

Posted By: BeautifulLover

I stay in the hobby for many reasons.  I love women.  I love sex. I love variety, and I love certain kinky things that civies may cringe from.  Dating can be a fucked up minefield, and while I don't give up, it's nice to have a "break" from it and party with a provider.  And even if I was successful in the dating field, and landed a new SO, I have learned that people are polyamorous, so I would continue to hobby.

you got me interested:)what are the kinks you are into?spill the beans

Posted By: vantheman666
I stay in the hobby for many reasons.  I love women.  I love sex. I love variety, and I love certain kinky things that civies may cringe from.  Dating can be a fucked up minefield, and while I don't give up, it's nice to have a "break" from it and party with a provider.  And even if I was successful in the dating field, and landed a new SO, I have learned that people are polyamorous, so I would continue to hobby.

Ready for a letdown?  My big "kink" that some people would have a problem with is...Transsexuals.  I'm a straight man who loves to suck cock and get fucked in the ass, as long as it's a woman I'm with.

I fell in love and left the hobby for a couple of years and certainly did not miss it.

I love women and sex. The hobby, although at times frustrating, it is convenient and drama/issue free!

I do still go out to bars so I am not opposed to finding a civie

At the moment I'm not in the hobby.
 I lucked out with a PYT I don't feel an itch to cheat on so I haven't strayed since we met this past  summer.  
  I haven't even been to the photo board since I met her.
 Don't count me out, there's no guarantee she'll come home tonight.  

  I'm well past 40.
I've been told from previous GF's, my biggest problem, I don't show any jealousy or I act like I don't give a damn.
  I say it's a free world, my Gal should do as she pleases without being subjected  
  to  ridicule.
 
  I have no  ex wives or baggage.
 
   I like to wake up before I get laid in the morning, preferably  after a late breakfast.
Don't get me wrong, if she's  hungry to start a BJ while I'm still asleep I'll wake up without any complaint unless she turns  it into an everyday obsessive compulsion.
  Been there done that, even good things get old if too repetitive .  
             I will admit I occasionally miss her, but not lately.
 
  You won't catch me rushing to work at 5 am, that's definitely  not my style.
  I  like to sleep in, if we are on vacation together you can expect me to ask  for late check out wherever we are.
  If you want to see the sunrise with me expect to stay up all night.  

  I never rush a Gal to bed, unless I'm paying for her time.
 The best sex for me is usually with the Gal who silently wonders if I'm Gay, until our fifth date.
   
    I'll always find ways  to compliment you, more so  if you have  large breasts, a hot ass and enjoy using them to our mutual benefit.

  I might tower over you but I'll never make you  feel small.
   If she doesn't enjoy her man  opening doors wherever we are we are not a match
   
   If she  make more money than me that's a plus, even if her  breasts aren't large.     :-D

  P.S.  You might beat me at Chess every time, no matter how hard I try.  
   No problem with me, I love  a gal who enjoys trying to control me while we  
are playing games.:-D
     

   
   

Posted By: octavia.lexa
the thrill of meeting new people? convenience? ego? money?  
   
 I quit industry once before for a sugar daddy i fell in love with. After break up I tried to date civies and some more sugar dating before returning to the industry.  Dating is BRUTAL! it is very time consuming and exhausting...especially given the fact that i only date guys over 40, they all have baggage or super busy and just want to get laid and wake up 5am the next morning and rush to the office...if you are a pretty girl, guys will say anything to fuck you, they come up with strategy how to get you to bed in the least amount of time and move on to the next conquest ...once they fuck you, you are no longer a mystery and they are off to mate another gal...chivalry is dead for the most part nowadays...  
   
 Returning to industry made my life so much simpler. The risk of being used and dumped is no longer there. Moreover,  i know from the providers side even if you are not addicted to drugs or alcohol, money could be addictive. Do other providers see it the same way?    
   
 For mongers, if you make over certain amount, hobbying seem be cheaper in a long run than sexless marriage with a messy divorce that will leave you in financial ruins and with trust issues?  
   
 thoughts?

you are a good man...:)

Posted By: quadseasonal
 At the moment I'm not in the hobby.  
  I lucked out with a PYT I don't feel an itch to cheat on so I haven't strayed since we met this past  summer.  
   I haven't even been to the photo board since I met her.  
  Don't count me out, there's no guarantee she'll come home tonight.  
   
   I'm well past 40.  
 I've been told from previous GF's, my biggest problem, I don't show any jealousy or I act like I don't give a damn.  
   I say it's a free world, my Gal should do as she pleases without being subjected  
   to  ridicule.  
   
   I have no  ex wives or baggage.  
   
    I like to wake up before I get laid in the morning, preferably  after a late breakfast.  
 Don't get me wrong, if she's  hungry to start a BJ while I'm still asleep I'll wake up without any complaint unless she turns  it into an everyday obsessive compulsion.  
   Been there done that, even good things get old if too repetitive .  
              I will admit I occasionally miss her, but not lately.  
   
   You won't catch me rushing to work at 5 am, that's definitely  not my style.  
   I  like to sleep in, if we are on vacation together you can expect me to ask  for late check out wherever we are.  
   If you want to see the sunrise with me expect to stay up all night.  
   
   I never rush a Gal to bed, unless I'm paying for her time.  
  The best sex for me is usually with the Gal who silently wonders if I'm Gay, until our fifth date.  
     
     I'll always find ways  to compliment you, more so  if you have  large breasts, a hot ass and enjoy using them to our mutual benefit.  
   
   I might tower over you but I'll never make you  feel small.  
    If she doesn't enjoy her man  opening doors wherever we are we are not a match  
     
    If she  make more money than me that's a plus, even if her  breasts aren't large.     :-D  
   
   P.S.  You might beat me at Chess every time, no matter how hard I try.    
    No problem with me, I love  a gal who enjoys trying to control me while we  
 are playing games.:-D  
       
   
     
     
   
Posted By: octavia.lexa
the thrill of meeting new people? convenience? ego? money?    
     
  I quit industry once before for a sugar daddy i fell in love with. After break up I tried to date civies and some more sugar dating before returning to the industry.  Dating is BRUTAL! it is very time consuming and exhausting...especially given the fact that i only date guys over 40, they all have baggage or super busy and just want to get laid and wake up 5am the next morning and rush to the office...if you are a pretty girl, guys will say anything to fuck you, they come up with strategy how to get you to bed in the least amount of time and move on to the next conquest ...once they fuck you, you are no longer a mystery and they are off to mate another gal...chivalry is dead for the most part nowadays...  
     
  Returning to industry made my life so much simpler. The risk of being used and dumped is no longer there. Moreover,  i know from the providers side even if you are not addicted to drugs or alcohol, money could be addictive. Do other providers see it the same way?    
     
  For mongers, if you make over certain amount, hobbying seem be cheaper in a long run than sexless marriage with a messy divorce that will leave you in financial ruins and with trust issues?  
     
  thoughts?

FatVern425 reads

Mostly the fact that women are better behaved when you are paying them. I tend to book with women that I'm not going to pick up any other way. Civvie also need to be constantly entertained, I'm far to lazy to stay on top of keeping a woman entertained.

ivie sex is certainly another way but messier, more time-consuming.

Sugar babying is another option but way more work.

And with either of the abov you don't get the benefit of rating and review sites like this one.  

I'm all about convenience

ahhhh:)))

Posted By: rpaul64
The anticipation of meeting you !

The thing that keeps me in the hobby is that all the civies of the world know what you know.

The hobby is very, very nice. I do it for all the reasons you've listed and more. I am a very selfish person and prefer to do most things alone. However occasionally I will feel lonely and will want someone I can associate briefly with then have the option of never seeing them ever again.  

Right now I'm pretty young so a family is the last thing I want. I'm male so my dating value tends to go up over time, so why rush it? But for a woman who becomes more and more infertile after her 30s, she has to sort of make the choice of having kids or not sooner.  

Chivalry was always dead for the 20 year old chick who only dates 40 year old studs. People usually turn into assholes when given choice and power.

In this day and age, a woman should never choose to rely solely on a man. Always make your own money even when you are with a guy.  

Hobbying in my observation has always been a cheaper alternative to marriage if all you want out of a marriage is sex. However marriage has been ingrained into my head since I was a toddler so I will eventually get married for the pleasures of conformity.

Seems that the "chase" is different for most.. but I like the adrenaline rush I get when I'm gonna meet someine new. There is also the chase of great sex! I have had good sex with a few civvies but I dont like when they become emotional leeches especially when the feelings arent reciprocated. The hobbyists i have encountered have turned out to be not only better during playtime but also lack the emotional baggage thats handcuffed to a traditional relationship.

It was a stew of those 3 (with lust being the main initial driver).  The hobby did get me out of my shell.  Gave me confidence I didn't have before. I have a great GF now, so I'm ready to see what other things life might have to offer me.  Would like to have a family.  Been on a hobby hiatus for the last 5 months - though yes, I still peek in here occasionally for entertainment!

First things first, my wife is my lifetime friend, highschool sweetheart and all. But I'm lucky if we do it more than five times in any given year. I've tried to find many other hobbies to distract myself, but in the end I wound up watching porn and jerking off. So after thirty years of faithful monogamy I considered my options: celibacy, divorce, romantic affair, sugar baby, or regular provider. To me, finding a regular provider is the least expensive option and carries the minimum commitment. I'm still looking for my ATF, and the search has been fun so far, but I'm a man of habits, and much rather settle on a good provider than to risk failing into some LE trap.

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Unfortunately, my ATF is 180 miles away.  Makes for some long dry spells.

My wife and I just stopped having sex over the years and so I am glad I found the hobby. Initially just saw the same provider repeatedly but now enjoy variety. I will say that hobby is getting less exciting now after a few years because of the lack of connection. I am now thinking of trying the SB/SD kind of relationships. I am curious what peoples experience has been in the sugarbowl and how they compare it to the hobby

in the civvie world. Escorts get paid so they have incentive to stay.

If I were to get set up by a friend  with someone they knew and I went on a few dates, had sex with her and stopped calling her I'd be labeled a cad. There are some civvie women who can be a fuck buddy but IME it's rare

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