Why should you? Fucking DUUUUHHHHHH!
Are you "The Man" The same reason we do not use other words when society has deemed them.... "Wrong" Have some respect and decency for who we are and what we do!I rarely book more than an hour and honesty im usually gone within 45 minutes.
For those that book longer dates since we have already established we are not porn stars;
What do you talk about?
Your thoughts if any
Oh, I forgot!!
You are an Internet Tough Guy...
By the way, did I ever mention names when I said we talk about stupid posters on TER?
Is white knight a racial term. The plastic knight you posted does happen to have a white face.
I know usually that the term can refer to any man regardless of skin color.
I base my argument for the question upon traditional stereotypical roles, that are presented as Americana. For instance, a pimp is usually portrayed as a black man. Where a hooker is most often portrayed as a white woman, especially if her character has a black pimp. Most tricks are also portrayed as white men. This is where the bases of my question comes from, a white man trying to rescue a white woman from a black pimp. Even if the hooker isn't white, the same could apply.
Lets say this is the scenario revolving around the definition of the word White Knight, wouldn't there be some element of racial superiority behind the word white knight?
I know that's not how you used the word. I'm just interested in the origin of the word, as it pertains to the hobby.
If you were to say origin of the word stems from Camelot times, I would have to say BS, as it pertains to the hobby.
I think it's amazing how an OP can evolve into a stupid discussion or topic. reminds me of the show family. Except family is fun to watch.
and it's not just a hobby thing, it's an internet thing.
White Knights were always considered the heroes and Black Knights were always considered the villains and it had nothing to do with race, but with the color of their horse and armor.
fatgirl for example is a White Knight despite the fact that he is a black man. so were tidwit and the Dungbeetle before him, I OTOH have always been a Black Knight although I am hardly a black man.
I get all that, and yes I know the term is from medieval times(right term?)... or as I said Camelot times, The armor could represent a visual difference, much like skin color can be used to point out difference between you and the person next to you(about to gag aren't you?)
I'm wondering if the word white knight, could have absorbed another meaning during modern times. With regard to stereotypical roles presented in media. I don't know if the racial aspect is all that relevant to the word white knight, other than the stereotype.
and it's better to be an internet tough guy than an internet dumb guy.
I don't think people talk about escalade on dates, unless they are on dates with escalade.
And sometimes an internet smarty pants. 
Steph xoxo
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One time, I told him to fuck off!... He posted something in the subject line, and or deleted it. That was the entirety of the post.
What's this game called, kick the can?
The dates I go on we don't have much conversation. I don't like talking about myself, as I'm not that interesting of a topic. I don't like talking to a lady about her business/other clients, as I'm not at all interested. I wouldn't expect her to share much of her real life with me, and I'm certainly not interested in hearing about her fictitious life. Nor would I want to talk about the personas on this board.
I guess some people can talk for hours on end about things that only take place in their imagination. I simply can't participate in such a charade.
I rarely see a woman more than once and spending several hours with someone I don't know seems awkward. It's like meeting someone in the line of a supermarket and talking for hours with them. In all my years, I have only met 1 lady that could hold my attention in a meaningful conversation. Mostly, there are generational, cultural, educational, or simply personality differences that make a mental connection impossible. With all that, if you do happen to find a woman you 'click' with, then you should keep her number. It's a blast to talk after good sex..
I usually use the time to talk about how courageous she is to get a totally unknown guy in her room (or out call to unknown) and then she starts telling me No...I do research..and starts telling ..you can easily know whether she is doing it or she has a Booker/boy friend...
All during this time I would like to play with her boobs or ass cheeks and kiss her...
I guess it's tough to find someone to talk to riding on that high fucking horse of yours. Personally I can usually find common ground with most people, even those lowly types like hookers and waitresses, the people you seem to look down on.
If you have only found one woman worth talking to in all these years, have you ever considered the possibility that it's simply too tough for you to have a decent conversation with someone when your head is up your ass?
Do you look down your nose at everyone, or just those lowly hookers who you have to tolerate in order to get your rocks off?
At least half the stuff are things going on in our personal lives, but there's time for culture, current events, history, math and science, and then of course we can watch TV, movies, or play board games.
Then there is going out to concerts, museums, sight-seeing, dining, etc.
I'm seldom if ever bored with the gals I see
Sometimes they hint about going to dinner, but I don't want to sound pushy or bothersome by asking. I'm probably misreading them anyhow, since dinner would be off the clock.
I like to think I'm correct in my assessment of the situation, but I can't help but wonder if I'm leaving the lady there alone, and going to dinner by myself afterward.
meeting removes (for me) the more superficial barriers to human interaction.
The topics while cuddling pretty much depend on the ladies' personalities and backgrounds. Sometimes we discuss interesting issues in the Hobby industry, like the lady who told me with great indignation of a recent encounter in which some asshole tried to coax her into BBFS and bid it up into the many thousands, or how a traveling lady kills down time and where she eats when staying at a suburban hotel. Sometimes we talk about news events or favorite literature or cities or food or where we come from or her plans for a small business or a myriad of other life experiences. Some ladies talk about their kids or other situations and sometimes I do. Once a lady shared very intense emotional issues; ok, that was not a "nice time" but grabbed me like few encounters I've ever had in all my life and I was thankful for the opportunity to lend an ear.
...I just assumed that it was a girl thing.
, then women, then providers. So, you can actually talk to us about anything that you would talk to another human about.
I'm very private so I generally don't divulge anything identifying, but that doesn't stop me from talking about general life experiences if we want to get into personal matters. There's also current events, literature, pop culture, media, travel, the world, hobby matters, personal preferences, interests, politics, and on and on and on...
90% of my dates are 3-4 hours. I'm not a particularly talkative person and never been accused of being a chatty Cathy, but making conversation is just one of those basic skills... That maybe I take for granted? Luckily my friends are great at it and it makes the other stuff that much more fun once we've gotten a little perspective and mutual respect for each other.
I've had dates where for 3-4 hours it was a non-stop fuck fest..but that rarely happens. Usually on a longer date you get to fully enjoy each and every activity thoroughly. Normally, I love to dedicate a nice portion of each session to giving oral, but on longer dates I feel like it gives me a chance to play with my partner a little more..licking, teasing; edging for the most part.
A longer date should feel like a man's equivalent to going to the spa. Massaging every inch of you with my hands..then with my mouth..
It could be a really nice time..unless you book with someone you have absolutely no connection with then it feels like a prison sentence 😩😩
Everything you said, plus I love giving massage whenever there's time. Why should the lady have all the fun?
And longer dates allow plenty of time for good ol' "making out." One of my favorite activities.
Damn Savannah you are turning me on.
Look at all the Childish and utterly juvenile name calling here on this post!!! Now imagine you are paying one of these twits $300 an hour to listen to this shit. YES, Ladies engage in this sophomoric foolishness too.
This is why I typically RUN out the door after I bust a nut. I just can't take what goes through the minds of the general community. I completely consider myself an outsider only engaging occasionally.
Who are you calling a twit sir??
This is why I typically RUN out the door after I bust a nut. I just can't take what goes through the minds of the general community. I completely consider myself an outsider only engaging occasionally.
It really must suck to be paying several hundred dollars an hour to someone you can't stand to be with.
Good thing I actually like hookers, I would much rather spend time, even time fully clothed, with a hooker than an uptight, wannabe intellectual.
If I remember correctly, this douche bag bragged about having taught high school at some point in his life. No wonder he is miserable.
Not sure of how much of that is accurate..but that is a level of masochism I haven't seen since I was an angsty teenager.
On another note:
What is it about the word hooker that you like so much? Just curious..
Good thing I actually like hookers, I would much rather spend time, even time fully clothed, with a hooker than an uptight, wannabe intellectual.
If I remember correctly, this douche bag bragged about having taught high school at some point in his life. No wonder he is miserable.
but when referring to johns, hooker is the female counterpart, and when referring to providers, I use client as the male counterpart.
I have no issues being called trick, john, client or even friend. Do you have an issue with the word hooker? It's only a word and can you cite any examples of where I use the word as a term of derision? I think I am as even handed a poster as you will find here, I just detest political correctness, and that extends to the word "hobbyist" which I really abhor. I have no need or even desire to sugarcoat what we do, as I have zero shame about frequenting prostitutes. The same cannot be said about the likes of Escalade, soda pop or dozens of other posters here who would be mortified if it ever got out that they were consorting with "hookers" I like hookers, many of my very best friends are hookers, so why should I call them/you by any other name?
Why should you? Fucking DUUUUHHHHHH!
Are you "The Man"
The same reason we do not use other words when society has deemed them.... "Wrong"
Have some respect and decency for who we are and what we do!
I guess that makes sense, which is why i make it a point to be tactful and call my clients "clients" until we reach a level of comfortability in which case I call them something personalized and cute. i don't like hooker..which is something you would have known if we were friends. I suppose it's best to feel out a persons boundaries before being so vulgar. I call you client..you call me provider.. Is that what you're saying, sir?
I have no issues being called trick, john, client or even friend. Do you have an issue with the word hooker? ?
TER, especially the GD board is fuck board and much more of a coed locker room atmosphere than a church social despite some people's efforts to make it more PC.
I realize that some people get a bit offended by the words hooker, john, trick, slut, but they have to realize where they are and that those are accepted terms here. If you want to fight the battle that those terms are offensive and people should not use them here, I can only tell you that battle has been fought many times before and the result is always the same. This is simply not a place for the uber sensitive, and it's not a place were anyone needs to ask permission before speaking frankly.
I don't always use the word hooker and I don't always use the word provider, I vary my word choice according to the context of what I am saying. What I was trying to convey is that if I am going to be talking about a hooker and her male counterpart, I will refer to the man as a john or trick which puts both the man and the woman on an equal footing. If I chose to use the more PC term provider when referring to the woman, her male counterpart will be client or perhaps hobbyist. What I don't do is use the PC term for the male and the non PC term for the female or vice versa.
Not at all
and neither do people who insist on political correctness on a fuck board. I am glad to hear that is not an accurate description of you.
As for me, I take very little said on these boards too seriously. With few exceptions, it's a place to have fun and talk shit. Occasionally there is a serious subject that needs serious answers, but those are the exception, not the rule.
BTW, I detest the word hobbyist and rarely use, but sometimes it is the most appropriate word to use in a sentence. When speaking about myself, I much prefer monger, or whore mongering pig over the PC term hobbyist. In general I don't like terms that make it seem like we are not engaged in having sex for money. Some people seem to think that by using terms like hobbyist, courtesan, provider et el that somehow if makes them superior to whores, hookers, tricks and johns. IMO, it only makes them more pretentious and most likely at least somewhat ashamed about what they do. I have ZERO shame about paying hookers for sex, being friends with these so called "fallen women" or anything else about this "hobby" The only reason I would ever feel any shame was if I was cheating on someone or seeing women who were doing this against their will. None of that applies to me, so I can hold my head up proudly and you'll never see me deny my whore mongering to anyone but perhaps an arresting officer. lol
..is your prerogative. I've always had a natural quality to make the people around me as comfortable as possible. If whore monger makes you smile, then a whore monger you shall be sir!
Haters going to "Hate"
You sit facing each other, and twiddle your thumbs.
You can also talk about the Kardashians. Or, if there's enough time...take her to the mall.
Providers are not normal people, so you can't talk to them about music, art, books...or, life in general.
If nothing else, just stick your dick in her mouth and kind of sway back and forth...that has a pacifier effect upon providers.
Just DO NOT under any circumstances try to talk to her as if she is a normal person.
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That's pretty rude! Frankly, if you want your escorts to be a "normal person", then perhaps they would simply ignore you like most other women? 
I happen to find 2-3 hour dates pleasant, and generally the minimum I want to meet. I like talking to people, especially beautiful and intelligent women, and I also think they appreciate being treated like a lady over a bottle of wine... and sometimes over dinner, too. In general, this often turns into a pretty terrific round 2 or 3. Many times I have also discussed music, art, books, and life in general with escorts. Perhaps you are picking the wrong women?
My answer was entirely sarcastic...I'm actually a provider.
I thought that a very stupid question deserved a stupid(er) answer. I guess I went a bit overboard.
Sorry, but based upon this thread, I thought you were being serious. Sadly, it seems like some people might be better off saving the $ and buying a blow-up doll instead.
My ATF and I talk about everything, including weird clients she has and weird hookers I've hooked up with. When meeting a new lady for the first time, I will just casually throw out a few safe subjects and let her chat away about whatever arouses her interest. Hehehe I said "arouses."