Spur of the moments are easier to find as non-GFE. Just have to keep it real with a regular GFE. It can get tangled from either end. Despite what some providers on the board say, I'm convinced that not all GFE providers are completely business only. They are people, too, and some may grow fond of and then somewhat attached to a regular. Benjamin still is required, and it is still a business transaction, but sometimes there is little or no facade.
>>>Similarly, there are times when I'm willing to make an appointment weeks in advance and pay a high price for a true GFE (or as close as I can get to it) and other times I'm happy to make a spur of the moment half hour appointment that fails the GFE test in several categories.
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I was just wondering about everybody's thoughts about GFE? What do you consider GFE? Guys, does it turn you away from a provider if she isn't GFE? I'm asking, because the subject has come up a lot in some of my conversations with some guys, and I'm wondering if that's the deal breaker?
If it means BBBJ and DFK, then the lack of BBBJ is a deal-breaker, but the DFK I can live without.
If you mean putting up a RL girl friend facade in addition, that's not a deal breaker. I'd rather the provider had a minimum of facade rather than faking O's, lots of undeserved performance praise, etc. and just be into the sex.
If you mean a bare minimum of facade and to be a regular to the point that she sees you at her residence rather than a hotel, you know her real name, RL job, etc., keeps your bag of toys, etc. with at her place and sees a very small group of regulars only, that's my preference, but that's rare.
Most that I have seen are not GFE. It is open to interpretation and everyone has their definition. Like 2Labman stated, I would not consider you a GFE without bbbj. I also would include DFK personally. Other things like getting to know you without being too personal, being a little spontaneous and willing to try some new things. PASSION , enthusiasm and acting like you are into it are also key. I had the very unpleasant experience a few days ago of seeing someone who had as much passion as a rock. I have f*#&ed a blow up doll with more enthusiasm. I could not wait to leave. It was horrific even though the individual was extremely attractive and sexy to look at. Yet her reviews stated she was more of a GFE. Someone obviously lied or has a strange definition of GFE. Maybe the were thinking of their wife…LOL
I will say that those who can pull of the GFE get my repeat business and the rest I choose to never see again.
Indeed. PASSION is one of the most important things to me,it makes the whole experience. Well,that and BBBJ of course.
IMHO GFE must include DFK, DATY,BBBJ, and some attempt to create a chemistry between me and the Lady. And yes, it is a deal breaker.
DATY is a menu requirement for me. I just enjoy it too much, especially after a while when I look up and they are looking right into my eyes with their mouth open, panting.
As others before me have said it depends on how defined. I'm similar as others... DFK, BBBJ, DATY, at a minimum, and the attempt of some connection. Yes, I know it isn't always there and I've experienced it at least once in my short time in this hobby. For me, I didn't like it. I could have more fun with.. well you get the idea. With nearly all of the ladies there have been enjoyable times and enjoying the fantasy is part of the gig.
So yes... With the options available here for research I try to take the time and find out who is/isn't GFE and what it means for them. It is a deal breaker for me too if it clearly isn't an option
GFE ...LOL, becareful what you wish for.
The very first man I saw was actually from the AF website, he is a monger, and where I was lacking information & knowledge, he quickly filled me in.
He told me, that I would be a great GFE with my warm friendly disposition, which led me to asking these very questions, the same as you.
GFE *IS* a deal-breaker.
The men who seek GFE want the "illusion" which is why they are paying $$$ instead of .$ for a BackPage girl special. If they wanted cold & callous, they could get that 24/7 on BP or just stay at home with the ol' ball & chain.
Warning: The irony of GFE: The better your "GFE" act is, you will find possible complications, from clients who have a hard time "separating fantasy from reality." You have to learn quickly to spot "clingers" & how to nip that in the butt. That's more Hooker 102 class though. Just worry about 101 for now!
GFE will ensure your rates are higher- assuming you aren't a 10. lol
I think Foxy hit the nail on the head. We know what the deal is, we just want to live that fantasy even if for a brief moment in time.
BTW love your use of 'clinger'...makes me think of Wedding Crashers. lmao
The very first man I saw was actually from the AF website, he is a monger, and where I was lacking information & knowledge, he quickly filled me in.
He told me, that I would be a great GFE with my warm friendly disposition, which led me to asking these very questions, the same as you.
GFE *IS* a deal-breaker.
The men who seek GFE want the "illusion" which is why they are paying $$$ instead of .$ for a BackPage girl special. If they wanted cold & callous, they could get that 24/7 on BP or just stay at home with the ol' ball & chain.
Warning: The irony of GFE: The better your "GFE" act is, you will find possible complications, from clients who have a hard time "separating fantasy from reality." You have to learn quickly to spot "clingers" & how to nip that in the butt. That's more Hooker 102 class though. Just worry about 101 for now!
GFE will ensure your rates are higher- assuming you aren't a 10. lol
I definitely want GFE and my regular is extremely GFE. She is extremely low volume, sees only her regulars and has a waiting list. She occasionally has to say goodbye to a regular who does get too clingy. One guy wanted to go from 2 hours once a week to two hours twice a week and she said no, she did not have any available time. He fussed and she told him goodbye. He played stalker for a while until one of the regulars caught him and ran him off. Binoculars and everything.
Keeping it real can be a problem for a lot of guys. I have to remind myself that this isn't RL, it's only a great two hour window, and the RL is coming back soon. That said, I love the connection, feigned or not. I want to know the woman on the other end of my dick. My worst sessions with other ladies have almost always been the "here it is, go at it." attitude. I agree that GFE means enthusiasm
Thanks! I just wanted to get things straight. I figured why not ask!
Thanks FoxyNC for answering. I think that your answer was awesome, I appreciate getting any kind of info from other providers!
Here's a really bad analogy, but it describes my sense of it.
Sometimes I'm in the mood for a filet mignon at a fancy restaurant, and sometimes I'd just rather eat at Taco Bell.
Similarly, there are times when I'm willing to make an appointment weeks in advance and pay a high price for a true GFE (or as close as I can get to it) and other times I'm happy to make a spur of the moment half hour appointment that fails the GFE test in several categories
Spur of the moments are easier to find as non-GFE. Just have to keep it real with a regular GFE. It can get tangled from either end. Despite what some providers on the board say, I'm convinced that not all GFE providers are completely business only. They are people, too, and some may grow fond of and then somewhat attached to a regular. Benjamin still is required, and it is still a business transaction, but sometimes there is little or no facade.
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Similarly, there are times when I'm willing to make an appointment weeks in advance and pay a high price for a true GFE (or as close as I can get to it) and other times I'm happy to make a spur of the moment half hour appointment that fails the GFE test in several categories.
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I also agree with the previous posts and will had that if she gives me a hug after the session and encourages me to see her again, then That becomes a memorable time.
Tiger