"known commodity" is a well-used phrase meaning you know what you get. it's a positive thing. my acting reputation pegs me as a "known commodity" ... professional, on-time, talented and flexible. i'm happy to be a "known commodity."
if cour de lion had said women were just "commodities" you might have a point. but he used a well-known phrase that means something positive in terms of business performance. because, at the bottom of it all, this is a businessI saw a gal today on TER who was hot as hell & had good reviews but I was a little hesitant because her price was only $300 and she advertised on back page.
I had a great experience with a similar girl a week and a half ago down in SD - so I decided to reach out.
She responded immediately and aggressively saying she had received an email saying I was a "time-waster".
I have had a couple of issues lately: One where I had to give a lady in LA a bad review & another when I told a very cute provider in San Diego to beat it because she asked for a picture, real name, employer, LinkedIn profile link and something else on top of all the usual screening info. Maybe they sent an email out or maybe someone or something else - I have no idea.
The point being, you can't defend yourself against these anonymous accusations and if there are ladies that can't take the time to get in touch with my references or ask for more references - then they are not a good fit anyway! Regardless I feel that backchannel of character assassination is for the birds unless it is concerning safety - Is there something exclusive to back page I wonder.
raconteur like yourself can sometimes be misinterpreted as a time-waster, but the reality is, just like we reviewers have a "reviewers only" board, the providers also have a board on TER that we can't see, where they can say pretty much what they want about you. There are boards on other sites that are providers only as well. So even if they jumped to conclusions, which is likely the case, you are powerless on your own to correct it.
My suggestion is to find out which board these negative comments were on, and then ask a few of your regulars to post that they have known you a long time, what a great guy and customer you are, and that they have no idea why any provider would say anything negative about you based on their own experience with you. Its a way to do a little damage control, since you can't defend yourself on provider boards on your own.
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I can't remember the last time I saw a word I didn't know the meaning of but TBH I had NO IDEA...
ONLY $300? Seriously? Moving on - regarding the woman that wanted everything but the name of your first born and your blood type - good for you for moving on!!! As for the anonymous accusations, I think it comes with the territory. Providers have the same problems with hobbyists. Just read some of the reviews that differ so wildly from others and not to mention some of the stuff we read on the boards.
As for back page. I know there are differing opinions about it. Personally, I think it is a good place to get an idea about someone you might want to see and then do further research on TER, P411 and other sites before making any moves.
Have fun and don't let the accusations get you down.
Just Move On Bro.
So many ladies out there...so little time....
It was about that $300 comment here...
All those were SOLID and only 300 - That's what the PM was about
I just had a lady I had not seen before in the San Fernando Valley of L.A. waste over an hour of my time. When I got there she said she was running 15 minutes late. An hour later I was still waiting and needed to be somewhere so I left. But I have proof and documentation such as the complete text log between us which I supplied to P411. At this point it might have been a bad day rather than habit for her. She is getting a warning. But if she keeps that stuff up Gina made it clear that she will suspend of revoke her account.
I suppose I was just fortunate to find out or not.
First off thank you everyone! You guys are legends!
The way I figure it is this is an occupation for them:
- Some are patient and consider it a privilege to speak to and invest time into a potential customer. They generally make about $1000 an hour and have many, many multi-hour and travel regulars. They generally enjoy their work and are bass-ass empowered professionals.
- Others want to spend the shortest amount of time from first contact to when you end up coming at their 2 and a half star establishment, with the next customer standing outside the door tapping his foot. They don't want to be bothered by anything else. They generally make around $250 an hour and are on that declining path to offering half-hour specials on backpage. I am sad to say, they are unenlightened.
- There are still plenty of others all over the place trying to learn how to best manage this profession. Generally sweet and sincere and they don't hate what they do. It is very important that as a community we care for and nuture them.
I normally gravitate and thoroughly enjoy the top echelon but have dropped down to the lower price-points twice as of late with one gal being absolutely extra-ordinary. The response today didn't set me back much and it's funny that after that "hell no" response I received I realised that when I googled her phone number and email address (standard procedure for my safety) her provider email address was linked to her LinkedIn profile. I sent her a follow-up email warning her to get on top of that (because I'm nice) but I was probably blocked by then because she didn't send a thank you note (imagine that). It's a funny old game this - LOL
Yeah but I like wasting your time SenPai...
Upon further review of this and other posts you have made, it is my respectful opinion that your expectations are higher than most of us on this board. I'm really not knocking you though it may seem like I am. We all have our expectations.
The number of ladies in San Diego charging 1,000 and up for an hour is very small in terms of percentage and in comparison to those charging 300 or less. Most ladies I have seen have been very professional and have acted that way. Some others .... not so much. I never saw them a second time. I would certainly hope those charging more will make more effort to be on time, offer higher class accommodations and ??? I don't know because I cannot afford that much.
I may have gone a bit off point but my point here is you have to remember your audience and most of us, I think, are in the range of 600 or less.
While you would hope higher priced ladies would provide a better service, that's just not the case. Service has nothing to do with how much you pay.
The number of ladies in San Diego charging 1,000 and up for an hour is very small in terms of percentage and in comparison to those charging 300 or less. Most ladies I have seen have been very professional and have acted that way. Some others .... not so much. I never saw them a second time. I would certainly hope those charging more will make more effort to be on time, offer higher class accommodations and ??? I don't know because I cannot afford that much.
I may have gone a bit off point but my point here is you have to remember your audience and most of us, I think, are in the range of 600 or less.
That has generally been my experience as well. Hope doesn't get us too far in this field, though. But, overall I've been pretty lucky after I graduated from being a newbie.
but I will trade good performance for that any day. That is good performance in many ways including attitude and dependability.
for anyone over 40, its a pretty universal belief that service always trumps looks. I often get PM's from younger hobbyists looking for recommendations where looks is the number one priority. I have to explain to them that I am not a good one to ask, because I value service above looks. Most don't get it. They're only interested in the hottest-looking (very) young girls.
I have high expectations for sure. The expectations are based on the experiences that I have had with some amazing humans!
To further validate your post, yes - the more money I pay for something (really anything), the higher my expectations are. That is really part of how I'm hard wired. I know you can have amazing experiences at $300 per hour and I've had them but the more I pay the higher my initial expectations without question.
Mostly I was just but-hurt a negative email was going around about me and I always badly want what I can't have.
I think your response was fine...
Commodity??? Couldn't find it, either.
That's because it isn't there.
If I did treat providers like a commodity - Then I probably wouldn't be a time-waster!
Catch 22 I suppose!
I regret starting this thread - Ha!
I have a really good date lined up for tomorrow - It's going to be a good day...
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1839357
"known commodity" is a well-used phrase meaning you know what you get. it's a positive thing. my acting reputation pegs me as a "known commodity" ... professional, on-time, talented and flexible. i'm happy to be a "known commodity."
if cour de lion had said women were just "commodities" you might have a point. but he used a well-known phrase that means something positive in terms of business performance. because, at the bottom of it all, this is a business
You defending me old friend?
I think she was referring to me being disrespectful some how and some way.
I think she mis-spoke and then defended vigorously to grab some kind of high ground after such a calamitous statement?!?
So she spent a few days combing over everything I had written and finally came up with something so thin it was laughable...
The ironic part is most of this thread is criticism on me for just the opposite - Ha!
If you are talking to me - Please point out where I referred to providers as a commodity.
They are in fact service providers (and in a sense - small business owners and brand builders).
But to me they are first and foremost humans - and compassion and empathy are my two main concerns (yes,
even before the sex).
If you think I am disrespectful you couldn't be more wrong read my reviews and ask around...
Tankbinding, you suggested Goldie read your reviews and ask around. I've read your reviews ... what few there are and they are practically useless to us hobbyists. You say you want to give the providers privacy and I understand that. But, you have to remember what this site is for and I don't think you do. You read other mens reviews and make decisions based on those but you don't provide details in yours.
The first review a provider receives is the one that checks, or not, all the boxes. That's why we rely on future reviews to get the full picture. You don't have to go into all the "fine" details but letting us know if the provider gave a BBBJ, allowed DATY and DFK etc. would be nice. Instead, your reviews read like someone trying to impress with your ability to write prose.
If you are going to write reviews in San Diego, then help us out and write an actual review of what happened.
I actually get a lot of mail from people that do find them useful, see the girls based on my reviews and are super stoked!
As per what you wrote in your 2nd review.... Second paragraph of VIP portion.
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Lighten up GK, and read his full reviews in CONTEXT. If I had to knock the guy for anything, I might echo Incallman who suggests he doesn't go deep enough into detail. On the other hand, he's probably trying too hard to be RESPECTFUL.
Ah, here we go again. In economics, a commodity is marketable item produced to satisfy wants or needs. Hmmm, economic commodities comprise goods and services. Of course, in general women are more than mere commodities, alot more. On the other hand, let's be honest here , how many men would pay 600/h, 500/h, 400/h etc. if they were not getting sex in return??? How many providers would have regular sex with random guys without getting paid? When you break this hobby down to basics it's mostly exchanging $$ for services. Clients get the pleasure and providers get to pay their bills. You can try to sugarcoat it all you want, but that's what it's always been and always will be (at least until sex robots are available at Target) Even among the civvies the quality that is most prized by women in men is being a good provider.
So you were referring to the second paragraph of my review of a Russian provider in LA a while back when you wrote this?
That's just awesome LOL... OK GK you've caught me - I am disrespectful.
All Good Now
The second review to Nika ... How do you know she's a high volume provider? What if she was hiking right before she saw you? Or at yoga? How do you know she runs marathons (based on your review I suppose you said with guys" the chick has 10 reviews. How rude.. :/ who knows what she has going on in her life. Maybe she's fragile?
You know we have a life too, she could have been fucking her boyfriend or husband right before seeing your ass. And his dick got her sore. You can't just assume the worse things. It's rude.
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How about my other reviews or the dozen or so that lasted only a day or two because they didm't have enough sexual play by play?
Let me break this down for you - It said she offered FIV - she said NO WAY. It said GFE - NO WAY and if I got close to even touching her hair - she would lose her mind (and I am not a hair puller) - we are talking light touch.
If she just finished having sex with her s/o for a few hours and was too sore to make good on what she promises to deliver then she should have cancelled. Furthermore, I asked her if she was a high volume provider and she said yes - she was "trying to make as much money as possible before she went home".
If you think giving a low review for a girl not delivering what she promises because she is too sore from fucking her s/o for a couple hours right before a client arrives - It's just baffling to me...
Well since all that happened, I guess you're right. But you should have wrote that in your review :/ lol
To be honest Naomi, these reviews are written for other hobbyists so they can determine who may be a good fit for them. If they required providers proofreading and approval they would be useless.
I was so horny and couldn't lock down a known commodity that night so I chose to ignore a VERY RELIABLE hobbyist review and go for it - JOe even sent me a mail after - LOL
Despite popular opinion around here I do not use my reviews to pander to providers - they are the truth.
Imagine if you had a clogged toilette. You did some research and called the best plumber you could find. During the time you first made contact and you locked down an appointment his price went up $100 (same day). Cool, you need your toilette fixed. His advertised services were he would snake your lines to the main drain. Remove all clogs and get all your plumbing working perfect 
He shows up 20 minutes late with a plunger, plunges for 20 minutes and leaves.
The first time you flush it works. Second time it overflows and your house floods. Keeping in mind that this plumber has the same value as a human being as a hot Russian Prostitute. Would you write a Yelp review that might be a little disrespectful just to warn the next possible victim?
Happy Easter Everyone