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I stand corrected, maybe this is a topic worth discussing here
GaGambler 365 reads
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but I have no desire to strive to become the best john I can be like some of the BSU's here, anymore so that I am going to strive to become the best customer for my barber, mechanic, attorney et al.

When treating a hooker with the same respect that all people deserve is not enough, that is when I will simply stop seeing hookers I suppose. It seems that we have two extremes here. we have the mean spirited dickbags you speak of who should be shunned by every hooker everywhere, and then we have the insecure BSU's who treat this shit like Match.com

Personally I could give two fucks what kind of "john rating" I have, I am the customer and I am not in competition with my fellow johns as to who can suck up the most. I shower, I shave, I pay, and I leave without having to be literally pushed out the door when my time is done unless asked to do otherwise. When this ceases to be enough, I'll go back to fucking civvies.

Personally I don't care if hookers rate their johns, but if any hookers plans on rating them publicly on anything more than a pass/fail basis, don't ever expect me to come calling.  

Just before hitting send, it has occurred to me that hookers grading johns is not really the problem here, it's insure tricks groveling for reassurance that they are "doing it right" that's the problem here. I think the guys who want to be rated are guys who are looking for validation by hookers to make up for their lack of success in the "real world" of dealing with women. Actually it's kind of pathetic to need to be told that you are a "good customer" by someone you just paid several hundred dollars for hour of her time. It really amazes me how needy and clingy some guys can be. Honestly guys, grow a fucking pair.

Ladies, I would appreciate if you would provide your criteria or examples for selecting a level of recommendation like those used on Date-Check.  Only the OK is visible to the client but behind the OK is the recommendation viewed by other providers.

Provide input for one all or none of the four categories.  How do looks, number of visits, manners, hygiene, height, weight, age, interests, etc. play into your level of recommendation.

1-Highly Recommend - Examples/Criteria

2-Recommend - Examples/Criteria

3-Your Mileage May Vary - Examples/Criteria

4-Do Not Recommend - Examples/Criteria

Thanks!!!

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Or, are you trying to be didactic for the benefit of us guys?

Just saying....

GaGambler496 reads

The subject itself though does sound better suited to be discussed amongst the ladies, somehow I don't expect a lot of totally candid or honest answers to this question here.

Yeah yeah we all know you johns are paying HOWEVER, this serves as a good indication if a hooker were to book a guy or not. And what is wrong with knowing that in fact some of the johns are not nice guys in some way. You (the general you) can't possibly be that dense not to realize there are some utter dickbags out there some hookers have to deal with..that is until they don't.

GaGambler366 reads

but I have no desire to strive to become the best john I can be like some of the BSU's here, anymore so that I am going to strive to become the best customer for my barber, mechanic, attorney et al.

When treating a hooker with the same respect that all people deserve is not enough, that is when I will simply stop seeing hookers I suppose. It seems that we have two extremes here. we have the mean spirited dickbags you speak of who should be shunned by every hooker everywhere, and then we have the insecure BSU's who treat this shit like Match.com

Personally I could give two fucks what kind of "john rating" I have, I am the customer and I am not in competition with my fellow johns as to who can suck up the most. I shower, I shave, I pay, and I leave without having to be literally pushed out the door when my time is done unless asked to do otherwise. When this ceases to be enough, I'll go back to fucking civvies.

Personally I don't care if hookers rate their johns, but if any hookers plans on rating them publicly on anything more than a pass/fail basis, don't ever expect me to come calling.  

Just before hitting send, it has occurred to me that hookers grading johns is not really the problem here, it's insure tricks groveling for reassurance that they are "doing it right" that's the problem here. I think the guys who want to be rated are guys who are looking for validation by hookers to make up for their lack of success in the "real world" of dealing with women. Actually it's kind of pathetic to need to be told that you are a "good customer" by someone you just paid several hundred dollars for hour of her time. It really amazes me how needy and clingy some guys can be. Honestly guys, grow a fucking pair.

Cleanliness, punctuality, attitude and maybe another one or two things that have nothing to do with much that would make a john puff up his chest...sexual prowess validation , IMHO really does not fit into this equation...most hookers are not concerned about that.  

Then why bother with references from hookers if there is no need for some sort of communication regarding a paying customers behavior or personal hygiene? Why not just wave the benjies and leave it at that? Well most know why...this is not a" hand him a product and send him n his way".  

This requires more than just close contact , it requires a man entering a womans body, does not get more personal or intimate than that. So many things need to be okay in order to allow that, and money just does not gloss over a sick or filthy john.

I'm curious about how the ladies decide on a recommendation level. Just curiosity.

I'm D-C Platinum and I surely hope that I am all ones.  

But I would like to know if there is anything I can do better, just in case. I'm on time, clean, I shower there, I don't overstay, ... I think I get all the etiquette points. (Good behavior points.) I'm not a porn star, sex-wise. Do I lose points for that? (Performance points?

How do you know that you are "Platinum"? This in not a sarcastic question, but an information seeking one. Thanks

Posted By: impposter
I'm D-C Platinum and I surely hope that I am all ones.  
   
 But I would like to know if there is anything I can do better, just in case. I'm on time, clean, I shower there, I don't overstay, ... I think I get all the etiquette points. (Good behavior points.) I'm not a porn star, sex-wise. Do I lose points for that? (Performance points?)  
   
 

Posted By: DURHAMDREW63
How do you know that you are "Platinum"? This in not a sarcastic question, but an information seeking one. Thanks
It's just a number thing. Here's the code:

0 - 0 Screened  
1 - 2 Bronze
3 - 5 Silver
6-10 Gold
11-15 Platinum
16+ DIAMOND

I didn't remember the codes. It turns out I'm way over diamond, not platinum. :-)

1-Highly Recommend: I "highly recommend" guys that I have a wonderful time with. They cover all the basics (clean, prompt, correct donation etc) and when I'm with them I don't feel like a "provider". They're friendly, they've read my website and reviews and have an idea of my sexual personality, they're gentle, sexually dominant (but not aggressive).. and when our time is up, I (almost) don't want them to go. They share themselves with me, and I get to share myself with them outside of being Taylor Morgan.
 
2-Recommend: For me, this one means that I had a nice (or very nice) time and that I would be very happy to spend time with them again. There were no real negatives that I could point out.
 
3-Your Mileage May Vary: I give this rating when I wouldn't personally see him  again, but a provider with a different personality could enjoy her time it him. He may have been too aggressive for my comfort (but not violent), seeking things I don't offer (anal, kink etc), he made me feel too "provider-ish" ( didn't want to make out, or speak to me much, or concern himself with my comfort)
 
4-Do Not Recommend: I haven't had to give this rating before, I reserve it for guys that are violent, that intentionally bring the wrong donation (or no donation at all), or that force themselves on me in some way.

A guys looks, number of visits, height, weight, age etc. don't play into my level of recommendation at all.

But when you get right down to it, the only things most hookers care about are the things you stated...AND you NEVER mentioned looks or performance. When will they get it...hang on....never.

GaGambler353 reads

I don't get scared about whether or not my attorney thinks I am a great client, why should I have to "strive" to be "the best trick I can be" I am quite happy with my status as "not repulsive" and that is as high a praise as I desire.  

Besides there is already a metric to know if a hooker really thinks you're special, she stops charging you. and to a lesser extent if she reaches out to you simply to say hi, or to shoot the shit with you, than as a john you are probably even a little bit more than "not repulsive" in her eyes. I'll take the current metric as a lot better indicator about "how good a trick I am" over being reviewed any day. Just like repeat visits are a much better indicator to a hooker that a trick likes her than him writing her a ten ten review but never scheduling another session.

Senator.Blutarsky545 reads

Just like not all hookers are the same, neither are us johns. Some of us do "get it" and don't stress over this topic. It never ceases to amaze me why some make this more complicated than it needs to be.  SMDH.

Bob.Sugar387 reads

It's no surprise when they hate everything about that "job".

I've seen it over and over...in all types of work.

If h+t had an option...she wouldn't be phucking men for bucks.  

Posted By: Senator.Blutarsky
Just like not all hookers are the same, neither are us johns. Some of us do "get it" and don't stress over this topic. It never ceases to amaze me why some make this more complicated than it needs to be.  SMDH.

Bob.Sugar312 reads

I guess you could ask him to start with the tricks too.

That way both teams can look better than they are IRL.

I guess some do appreciate blobs on both sides...not you of course  LOL

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(

Senator.Blutarsky323 reads



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He os gorgeous and that body....wow, just wow.....what were we talking about?????

Bob.Sugar295 reads

Or are you just making more crap up?

Try being true to yourself for once.  You'll find that your disdain for life will subside.

Senator.Blutarsky311 reads

...but I'm sure you know this and are just exaggerating for effect.

And I know I am not many sex workers dream date. I am a lot of work to get to finish. It is a written review I fear. I am not wanting my inadequacies exposed. I have no doubt I wouldn't always have top scores but it is what it is. I used to have a membership there but the site is clunky and P411 had more local ladies. I also didn't like that ladies could review my profile without me contacting them, but that was minor. The lack of locals at the time and how user unfriendly the site was was why I left.

Because if you do, I am pretty sure something might be mentioned about your abilities. That is what references are for. I want to know more than the guy showed up on time and did not beat or steal

And I am fine with it being shared that way. I in fact want my hopefully future sex partners to know what they are getting, so I hope they share. In fact on my P411 profile my issues are noted. It is stupid to hide something That is plain once on starts playing down there. I tell them myself before I even disrobe to give them heads up. I am not hiding things from my dates, I am hiding things from those who has no business knowing.

When I see new ladies, which is rare because of my issues, I screen heavily for discretion. It is more important then looks, personality, or menu to me. Reviews aren't discreet. Ladies I am not seeing have no business knowing my issues. Worse provider only sites leak like a damn colander. If you was embarrassed about your sexual bits, would you want it advertised?

No need to answer as I already know. You are confident enough to rent them out, yet you still don't want to be reviewed. I am not. I am barely confident enough to pay. Number rate me all you want. But I do not want the details known. I will not allow myself to be reviewed with details. I will give up the hobby if it ever becomes common.  

I would think you, who doesn't allow herself to be reviewed would understand. I am a good client. I treat ladies with respect. I show up on time. I leave on time. I come freshly showered and will shower again when I arrive. I pay the full donation. I want my date to enjoy herself but understand she might not cum. And I listen and follow instructions and body clues. I am not completely unskilled ether. I am just broken in a obvious way, that is embarrassing and if known publicly would make life difficult. Is it hard to understand why I never ever under any circumstances what to be reviewed that give the personal details?

I hope you do. You have to be confident to do what you do in your sexual nature. But most guys who pay for it, well have reasons they are paying. Most don't want those reasons published. I just don't get how a person who will not allow herself to be reviewed don't get that. I really don't.

By the way. I do get why you might not want reviews. Some things are private. I have never reviewed a lady without her consent. I now only review if I feel people need to be warned. I will never do anything requiring people to be warned, so I don't worry about that

And you seem to be a very cool guy and possibly a great client.  

The biggest disconnect here is WHAT should be in that "review"...I am not interested in a guys sexual prowess. All I want to know is is he clean, not rough, will not treat me like a blow up doll, does not have a large dick and respects a woman. Those are the questions I ask references. What he looks like, etc. is of no consequence...and whether that is available in print or via an email from another hooker, I don't care.

If the review system was fair and did not make guys add explicit shit that some have to make up and that there was a rebuttal if a hooker was lied about, I would have no issue being reviewed. Like you, there are things that do not need to be in a review...is this not supposed to be discreet and it is illegal.

I don't need a porn novel to choose my dates, and don't get me going on the numbers. What I want is simple: Does she look like her photos if not why, services offered, price, did he leave happy if not why, would he recommend, and notes on her attitude and personality. I don't care how often she faked cumming, how great he was, or the gritty details. And honestly her responses to reviews would more valuable then the reviews themselves.

And yes I have reviewed. Here and elsewhere. But I did so with consent, and often only after she asked me to. Before my issues I didn't mind as much about the details , and if she asked me to write one she didn't mind ether. At no time have I put things out that she didn't want out. Hell nothing is wrong with filming it and distributing it if all involved consent to that. I would never consent to that or being reviewed TER style. Date Checks references sure. Even your questions would be fine minus details.

And I do remember that you're not a fan of this review system. I agree guys should not be subject to comments about their looks, weight and age...unless weight is an issue for a lady.  At the very least, a place like Yelp has a way for the business to add a rebuttal in case some idiot said something untrue out of spite or gave false information that may have an effect on a clients expectations.  

This system is heavily slanted against the hookers and I will not participate in anything that can be abused to the extent I have seen it done here.  

I have the luxury of not ever being placed in a position of having to do something to anyone  in fear of a bad review as retaliation. I can kick a guy out, refuse whatever service if he is rough or dirty and not ever have to subject myself to health risks.

Do I think the way some hookers treat the guys in regards to reviews is right?...hell no BUT, if the odds are stacked so far against one party, they usually come out swinging with whatever they can use.  

You have an awesome day and don't change, you seem a really decent human being.

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No one cares about looks only if you are not weird clean and respectful full stop.

noagenosage398 reads

There are fundamental differences between providers and hobbyists.  The former are providing a service, advertising their wares for sale so to speak.  The latter are buyers and justified in doing due diligence.  Further, the reference system, although far from perfect, gives providers a chance to blackball customers who don't meet acceptble standards of behavior, etc.  Also, the women reputedly have a pretty good system of informal information exchange.  Those things should suffice.

Some hookers will not reveal much other than "yes I saw him and I am still alive and he did not steal my money".  

For me that is not a reference and I will give detailed info when giving a reference. I have no issue answering any question a hooker might have for me.  

It can be the difference between a good session or no session at all. Point in question, I always ask if the john needs a magnum...if he does, we are not a good fit and I opt out of seeing him.  

So if a hooker is not forthcoming and you have a big dick and get through, well, you drove all that way for nothing. So it is NOT always about behavior, it is about a lot more to some of us. And really just because he did not beat or steal still does not mean he is an acceptable risk to see. There is a large grey area where the john can still be unsavory

I was curious about how the providers rate and if they have a criteria.  Some providers that you see 10 times or more give you a YMMV while another provider sees you once and gives you a Highly Recommended.

I work in a metrics driven industry (as do many) and just interested in how this industry would respond.
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