I will be traveling to my favorite city for a day visit here soon. It will be for work and I will have a employee with me. I am thinking of trying to find away to ditch her at some point and make an appointment. The ditching will be easy, the hard part will be explaining the hour or so time loss after I seperate and making a good enough excuse that my phone doesn't ring the whole time. Any suggestions? Or do you think it is worth the risk?
Your boss would have the implied right to ask you about your business, your employee has no such right to ask you about your personal business. I would simply put it that way, "I have some personal business to attend to" EOM. She has no right, nor should you have ever given her the idea that she has any right to press you further for details. Wiping the shit eating grin off your face is a completely different matter. I can't help you there. lol
and old aunt or old friend or long forgotten great uncle who has been hospitalized and thank goodness you happen to be there and can visit him/ her. even tho you haven't seem him/her in years (so your wife has never heard of him her if it should ever come up.)
A quick visit by your to hospital ....what a great friend nephew evict you are.
(You may not be aware but you need to turn your phone off in hospitals.)
I would go into a long explanation, just mention it and leave.
It's an act of kindness, almost saintly.
Use the "I'm gonna go see an old college friend" who lives here and we haven't seen each other in years.
There's always a "what if". That is, what if the same (or another) relative actually gets sick, and you've already used that excuse? Then what will you do? Plus, in some cultures, it's considered very bad form to use those excuses, because it's believed to attract the bad things you're fabricating.
Not to forget the redneck excuse "my granma is sick"
If he acts completely out of his regular character and she figures out - or even suspects - what he's doing during the missing hour, then she becomes a risk to tell Wifey and she could become his boss. "I'm leaving early for the weekend, is that OK, Otto?" But it's Wednesday! "I'm sorry, do you have a problem with that? I'll bet your wife thinks it's OK." Have a good time!
I think he lacks the confidence to pull it off and that means he won't be able to pull it off. Maybe after a few business trips he'll be comfortable with the idea
Why do you have to explain yourself.
What business is it of her where you go and what you do (I assume after hours) even if it is on an out of town trip.
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Your the boss, aren't you? Act like it.
have her join u for a lickfest..
carry some baseball cards with you and give them a glance just before you tell her.
They don't pick 'em for their looks, you know
He'd take one look at me, look at my tussled hair and my shit eating grin and tell me "Dude, you've got bed head, did you just fuck some hooker?"
I have to say, while he didn't bust me every time I had just gotten laid, he never once made a false accusation. Good thing I don't care if the whole world knows I frequent hookers.
Although I clean myself up when done, either right at the incall location or at home afterwards, my body language gives it all away. My non-hobbying friend takes one look at me, and says: "Again?" or "OK, fess up. What's her name and how much?" Even strangers act differently around me. I went to a salsa club after seeing a provider once, and girls acted inordinately affectionate while dancing with me, and another time, guys on the street in a sketchy area stepped out of my way so I could pass.
TL;DR version: Life's more fun when you hobby. Ladies of TER, thank you!
I guess I should explain more. While I do pull the "because I am the boss" card from time to time I don't think it would be good to use this time. Mainly out of courtesy. We will be in the same vehicle, travel for 4 hours to Denver conduct about 2 hours of business then would normally go home. I guess what I am asking advise about is what do I do short of dropping her off on a street corner, "I will be back when I get back. I am the boss, deal with it". It is the shortness of the trip and no physical location I am having a little trouble with. If I had a place, office or hotel etc, to just leave her I would. I could sneak away and let her take care of business. But then I would still be stranding her.
As to the other advise, hard pass. I have no desire to see her naked. Let's just say she is not my type. Lol.
I would play it this way:
In a respectful but apologetic manner ask her (well before you leave on the trip) if it would be alright to drop her off at a coffee shop or mall for a couple hours while you reconnect with an old colleauge or roommate. If she just wants read a book or to do more work on her computer the coffee shop works well, and 90-120 minutes isnt too long. If she is a typical girl, ask her if she has any shopping she would like to do, and be prepared to drop off and pick her up whereever she wants to go. Yes you are her boss, but given the details you added i would agree that you cant really just dump her on a street corner. Being you are her boss, she should be more than willing to accommodate your request if delivered correctly.
Poor Planning on your part. As a boss you shouldn't expect any employee to spend 8 hours in car (4 hrs each way) plus 2 hours of business plus an hour I presume for lunch. This is an 11 hour day. You should have made it a point to make such a trip with an overnight due to the length of the actual car ride
Ummm.. In the agriculture field we average 12-16 hour days between April to October. I don't know what I, or anyone I work with would know what to do with ourselves just working 8 hours a day.
Why, oh why would anyone work 16 hours a day? I mean you then have only 8 hours to sleep, shit, shower, shave, eat. Fuck that! What kind of life is that?
Hire more people to pick up the slack, it helps the economy, gives you time to take a shit and get laid.
You couldn't pay me enough money to work that damn much, I mean why bother? All work, and no play makes Jack a dull motherfucker. And that is coming from me, admittedly a work o holic.
If you intend to mix business with pleasure, that's up to you but it shouldn't inconvenience a subordinate of yours in any way. That's inconsiderate and inappropriate for a manager. The fact you're asking us about this tells me your conscience is bothering you about doing this. So why not keep to business this trip and plan better next time, maybe with an overnight as was suggested?
First off, you are asking her to extend an already very long day by another couple of hours just so you can get some strange. I agree that simply being the boss does not entitle you to simply tell her to deal with it.
I would suggest you ask her if there is anything SHE would like to do while in Denver, as you have something personal you would like to attend to that will take a couple of hours while you are there. Since there are no cities even close to the size of Denver within a four hour driving distance perhaps she being a woman she might want to do some shopping or something else she can't do at home. You could turn this into a positive for both of you.
Other than that, you might simply consider turning these trips into overnighters and spare some wear and tear on both of you.
The logistics the excuses, etc.
This seems to be more trouble than it is worth.
2015 = 28
You shouldn't inconvenience someone else to get your dick wet. So unless she has something she wants to do in Denver, your out of luck. My advice was for an overnight trip before. This is way different.
... that way it will be the last thing she suspects lol.
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And I got it. The obvious solution is to not mix business with pleasure.
And if you can't pull it off, screw it. People talk and people "talk", why chance it. Some of us are good at this, others not so. I travel with clients and some are gun ho about it almost like the landing at Omaha Beach, others not so. Like the saying goes..."Know your audience".
Or have lunch with a friend (your choice) Suggest she go shopping for an hour, or give her some mindless-research project to do for an hour (again, your choice) and just go get laid. Turn off your phone for the hour and relax. I remember getting caught by a colleague at a business conference. I was coming out of the hotel elevator where we were having the conference. She said, "you look like you just got out of bed." I said, "I did, Naps are wonderful right after lunch (while thinking, so is getting laid)." I'm just grateful that I didn't take the elevator with the provider.
see if she minds killing a couple of hours extra... you might want to sweeten it somehow... while you tend to some personal business. "A shame to go all that way & not shop, see a friend, etc" An hour appt plus travel turns into an hour & a half or more.
If it doesn't work out easily... skip the play time, this trip. Next time leave the employee home. It's an all day trip... No one will know when you get back.
Do you REALLY need the Employee with you? Could you call her & leave the phone on speaker during the business meeting? Just saying... It's a lot if riding for the meeting time. Could you record the business portion & have it transcribed after.
back to the hotel it's even easier! If not why don't you say something from above
Rule number one of traveling with colleagues on business trips that you want to monger on (for GaG and Inicky, they hate hobby), never, ever, ever give a colleague or employee your room number.
So, you can feign being tired or under the weather during the business day, and tell her that you're going to turn in early. If she doesn't know your room number, then if she sees a hottie knocking at a hotel door, it will be just that a hottie knocking at a hotel door. Just because someone is traveling with you on business does not give them the right, or need to know your room number. Turn your cell phone off, and call the front desk and ask them to not ring your room if anyone calls for you. I'll assume that you are aware that the hotel may not give your room number to anyone.
Neither of us give a fuck who knows we are fucking hookers at every opportunity, so this "rule" hardly applies to us. If someone comes banging on my door while I am having sex, I feel no obligation to answer, and unless they want me to shoot them through the door, everyone I know has the good sense not to stand there pounding if I don't answer. lol
For the rest of you, I suppose yours is good advice.
But I also was damn sure the only thing in there with you was a LARGE bottle of vodka. LMAO!
Well ok, I share tequila too.
I guess you only read the OP, and not the follow ups. 
Just say goodnight to your employee, and get on with your evening -- a late date works best for this. One thing I strongly suggest is that you make sure upon checking in that you are staying in either a different hotel or at the very least on a different floor far away from your employee -- I simply request this upon check-in and the hotel always gladly complies. I have been doing this for years and it's really not all that hard -- though it does make dinner out with a date much more of a challenge to impossible. (In these cases, I normally have her meet me at my room or meet at her place. Be sure to find out in advance in your elevators require a key card, as meeting her in the lobby can be a major risk if you have an employee staying in the same hotel.)
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you could offer to pay for a couple hour spa treatment or soothing massage while you slip away. that's always great after a long road trip
One thing if it's an overnight whereby you can excuse yourself after dinner, but cutting out on her for a couple of hours on a day trip? Would raise too many questions and eyebrows with my company, and keeping the hobby and work separate is always a good idea. On the other hand, if she asks to cut out for awhile for whatever reason...