I had some young thing approach me and ask me if I were indeed GaGambler, when I answered in the affirmative she told me how surprised she was about how I looked. I asked her what she was expecting and she pointed out some old, fat white guy and said "that is what I was expecting" she went on to tell me the surprise was a pleasant one. I guess you can say I was a least a bit relieved. lol
I know some of us do this for variety and a host of other reasons, but I am 100% certain, some of my monger brethren pay prostitutes because it is the ONLY way they are ever going to get a woman to have sex with them.
I want to know everyone's opinion on this subject. In this industry there are providers from the A-list to the D-list who blur or hide their face in their ads or main business websites. How does this affect your decision on hiring them? Before other people start adding their opinions I'll simple state my own. I personally choose to overlook these providers, I understand privacy and trying to separate your work life from your personal life but for me as a customer I don't feel safe in hiring these providers. For me it begins with attraction, specifically her face, you can have the greatest body in the world but have the face of man. I also feel that as we both are taking risk in the "hobby" and by seeing a providers face its puts us on an even playing field so I know what to expect on hiring this provider.
I look forward to reading eeveryone's option
the ladies use vanishing cream before photo shoots and sometimes they don't remove it promptly. You understand privacy? Do you understand not wanting to go to jail or be outed on the net?
I understand their need for privacy. I've found that reviews and occasionally back channel inquiries tell me all I need to know about the provider's face to decide whether to see a provider for a first date.
But it's your money, so your choice. There's lots of providers out there with clear face pics.
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I have opted to not have my face visible in my photos. I know others that do this as well and it doesn't effect them getting dates. I do not want my face being out there since I also do have a vanilla job and am in fear of being discovered. My reviews do speak for themselves. It may effect my bookings, but my safety and discretion come first in my book.
However, a pretty face is a wonderful enticement.
(putting aside for the moment the many and varied reasons why providers would want to blur their faces and the fact that they are perfectly entitled to do so)
Some of the greatest experiences I've had in this hobby have been with ladies who blur their faces. I can understand a certain degree of reluctance as you've no idea, to a degree, who will open that door, but I've also had the case where an unblurred face has been photoshopped so much she may as well have blurred it.
One thing that does occur to me is where ladies have blurred their faces I will often look for something in the picture that would indicate whether I think we might click or not, there's little worse that looking through a series of almost identikit photos of ladies with identical bodies and blurred faces. In the real world the face is always the most important thing for me, whether I find her pretty or whether I think I might like her can all boil down to the face. In circumstances like this I like to see something to give me an indication that we might get on, the way she dresses maybe, some sexy vintage underwear, something out of the ordinary.
I accept you prefer to see a face up front but I can definitely swear that I've had some of the greatest experiences of my life by meeting the lady with the blurred face, I wouldn't have swapped them for the world.
One last thing, while you both might be taking 'a' risk here I will always believe that she is taking the greater risk so always understand a blurred pictur
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...I read reviews. I back channel. I meet them face to face at Meet & Greets. Since last year I've seen every provider face to face a week or more before scheduling the session.
.....you can usually get a pretty good idea of how attractive she really is, face included. That is, of course, assuming that her reviews are credible and her body pics are really of her and they are recent. So a blurred face is not a deal breaker for me as long as I do my homework.
Would you then send providers that blur their face a copy of your ID or a photo of you holding some sort of wording like a date and providers name? Not just for screening, but because they just want to see?
I look forward to reading eeveryone's option
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And then advertise to the world, with a clear face-shot, that you're a guy who hires providers, which opens you to the risk of being 'outted' to your to friends/family/employer(s)....into perpetuity... the playing field would almost be equal.
When, in addition, you decide to be a provider yourself and charge money for your services----which will also place any/everything you own in jeopardy of govt seizure because you acquired it through illegal means---then you'll be on the same playing field.
I look forward to reading eeveryone's option
I wonder how many times I'll have to see guys complain the world doesn't revolve around their dick today, and try to equate it to things sheer magnitudes more complicated (not to mention important)
Yes, we are handed advanced degrees by our professors just by showing up to class.
- Then we are just given jobs by showing up to the interviews.
- Then we are handed gobs and gobs of money just for being men.
Personally, if I had a choice between making roughly $100 / hour minus taxes doing what I do right now ... or making between $250 and $600 per hour to have sex all day ... I'm pretty sure I'd take the sex
I'd love to see your face as you open the door and a 65 year old obese woman is standing there and you know you have to fuck and go down on that. You would not last a day doing this. Most guys would not last a day doing this if they had to screw the equivalent of themselves in the female form. That is why we get the big bucks.
In addition you do get more on the dollar in the real world than a woman does for doing the same job. Try that and see how it feels. Hooking is one profession that we get more than the guys do in general.
AND I would gladly show my face if there was a trick site and you all had to show your faces admitting you illegally solicit prostitutes.
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I guess you just seem to attract the wrong people to see you. Try changing up your ads...it can't hurt.
As for those "big bucks"...that's a joke as well.
And watch the lowly john troll the Internet for another young girl who will be awed by basic definitions of gross and net profit. Here in his natural environment, he is free to be as grandiose as he wants, so long as it is his season, May-March. Hibernation is during April, when he relies on reserves of sugar babies who think buying Chipotle every third Wednesday and a hotel room every eighth makes him a high roller. An opportunist, he relies on bafflement and sheer numbers of interactions, rather than any sort of virility. Another impressive skill is his mastery of Word, which saves him incomprehensible amounts of time when trying to tell both admin and providers to peak behind their own curtains. The tools ability to use tools is what sets him apart from even more lowly subspecies of johns, which includes everyone according to document 6, fourth version paragraph 5, saved 2.5 years ago for reference.
Truly a fascinating and creative creature. Let us watch
Ask any girl here. That's not the only reason to hire a pussy and totally uncalled for.
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Why don't you get a better job? They're just giving them out like candy and all you have to do is spend a few designated TER moments sending out your resume.
Or go into business on your own and start making money. Always convenient for people with their hands out to throw stones at those making moves to get their own, isn't it?
at $250 to $600 p/h.....so he'd totally be makin' bank. C'mon, that's gotta be worth it, right?
...lol...
Can you even imagine some of these guys ACTUALLY trying to do this?? With their paranoia and the way they get offended? Lmfao
but I have been to enough M&Gs to know I don't have anywhere near a stomach strong enough to do what you girls do, or fuck the female equivalent of who you fuck for any amount of money.
The rest of what some women constantly whine about like screening, timewasters etc etc, just go along with the territory of any service related business and are hardly unique to the business of hooking, so you're not going to get a lot of sympathy from me about those issues, but having to fuck the female version of some of the fat pigs that I have met over the years makes me throw up a little in my mouth just thinking about it.
If I had to screw the equivalent of myself in the female form, well I just wouldn't, I'd jack off to porn for the rest of my life.
Sorry some-guy, the truth is that the pool of customers is mostly men if you want to make a true living at it. Get ready to suck dick and take it in the ass.
Fat middle aged men AND fat middle aged women....gosh darn, I only get fat middle aged men...sooooo jealous...lol
Well best CIM and do Greek, his male tricks will expect that or he'll get hung out to dry on TER.
You're one of the worst about crying on here about inconsequential crap that your self centered victim mentality has blown out of proportion.
I am VERY kind natured and good to people who are good to me. Heck, I tip my good providers roughly 50% give or take.
Too bad you're so concerned with getting off on the worst possible foot with the best possible clients. All because you let a post on a really really dumb message board on the internets get to you. 
it's a shame.
Good clients don't make sexist comments like "of course she didn't pay you back, she suffers from being a woman". A good client has more than two reactions to anything a woman says, yours is either pity (poor things a hooker) or degradation (you must be stupid go to school and get a civi job). Good clients don't get offended when a woman says "no, showing my face is not the same as giving screening info". You came running in to play the victim, you are the one who makes assumptions about others based on your own prejudices, and you're the one who made it clear that you're nothing but an overgrown child.
You aren't a good client. You are a butthurt little boy using this arena to sooth yourself. Why else would you do nothing but jump in the middle of conversations to talk about yourself, even when it's obvious you're lying?
Keep in mind who you'd be expected to have sex with - mostly female Jabba the Huts instead of male ones. Not as easy to stomach when your faced with that sexually.
Then you must be into that!
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Jabba the Huts? Well when a trick calls his brethren fat and gross that says more than I ever could.
And you are the second john to let us know that what shows up at meet and greets is nasty...GaG has mentioned this many times.
I had some young thing approach me and ask me if I were indeed GaGambler, when I answered in the affirmative she told me how surprised she was about how I looked. I asked her what she was expecting and she pointed out some old, fat white guy and said "that is what I was expecting" she went on to tell me the surprise was a pleasant one. I guess you can say I was a least a bit relieved. lol
I know some of us do this for variety and a host of other reasons, but I am 100% certain, some of my monger brethren pay prostitutes because it is the ONLY way they are ever going to get a woman to have sex with them.
I've coughed up stuff after a three day drunk that had more sex appeal than that guy.
and I didn't have to give her a fifty percent tip either. I bet you that would have gotten me up to GQ status in her eyes.
BTW "prostie"??? Didn't that term go out sometime back in the 1980's?
Hence why they pay. And if you were not such a tool you'd read where even the guys admit that so it is not just my clients, it is spread out pretty throughout most providers. I am glad these guys are old and out of shape, makes me more money.
The date/sex is when commission is distributed. After we paid out to attract the customer and also accommodate them.
In the beginning, it's a lot more work if you're selling pussy at a high price, but over time I'm sure the work does itself once you build your brand and rep really well. Just like a sales job. Once you get a client base and a system of "things that work", I'm sure it gets easier.
But it's not hourly. You can work 60 hours a week and make nothing. Zero. Zilch. Or you can have a week where the only work you do is the dates (yeah right lol). And you can make a ton from all the work a few months ago.
It's sales. Commission only. No commission draw, no guaranteed income. But when the income does come, it's pretty nice. Three dates and I'm set for the month usually. But obviously I'd like to make more for disposable income, so the online marketing is necessary, especially with the types of clients I want to pull in.
There's an entire world out there you know nothing about, nor would even want to try to learn lol.
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With regards to your last statement
The woman would charge the 600 per hour and have sex once and you would take the 250 and do it all day long
You might even do sex sprints and go for 15 mins/40 bucks 10 times a day
Ps the ole days of men being handed everything is long gone
Now women are the Getting the degrees earning the jobs and spending the mone
The body is a deal-breaker for me. I hate fat, birthmark, cottage cheese thigh, belly, spare tire, floppy upper arm... Fitness is my biggest turnon. Face is way down the list unless it is truly repulsive to the point of distraction.
So no I couldn't care less if I see the face or not but I do need to see how fit she is.
Been with plenty who blurr their face. There are more important things that her face for me.
I look forward to reading eeveryone's option
Why anyone would post an unblurred facial picture of themselves advertising that they're hookers is beyond my understanding.
With the availability of facial recognition software that nearly anyone can use, it's far too easy to trace someone to their real lives. And I'd bet that a bunch of the hookers here use social media and plaster themselves all over that as well.
As Julia stated, some of the hookers don't want to bring their hooking lives to "what's my mommy do" for show and tell to school.
Just assume that most hookers have average looking faces and you likely won't be too surprised. Also remember that most of the tricks here give 10's out for anyone with tits and an ass.
The internet is forever, does the "right" for us guys to "see what we are buying" trump a woman's right to a future life away from hookerville?
I hate blurred pics, and I most certainly do not trust the reviews from guys with either no standards or who need glasses, but I can't blame a woman for not wanting proof positive that she is a hooker floating all over the internet until the end of time. There is no guarantee that being a hooker will ever be accepted in our lifetimes, are a few extra appointments really worth the chance that your children will be mocked for having a "hooker mom" in years to come.
I have no problem with anyone using face blurring techniques. There are ways to reveal part of your face here and there in different photos that make it very easy to come to the conclusion that someone is attractive without needing to share an unedited face shot. If a lady wants to turn off the hobby for a day, night, week, year...she should be able to. That's not as easy to do when you have your face all over the net. Besides, face blurring is more discreet for everyone involved. I know I know. We all want discretion, but only when WE want it. Only the WAY we want it. To me those unedited face shots are about as discreet as using the letters G-F-E in an email address. Yet we're so quick to overlook that. Perhaps that's a discussion for another day. Personally, I value discretion.
Behr
see down the bottom where it says picture url?
you can upload an adult photo to postimage.org
just because you didn't do it in your op, doesn't mean you can't do it as a reply...
xo
I don't have a problem sending a clear photo, I just don't want face recognition software to alert my family of my advertising.
Hey, do what you want to do, see who you want to see. But I can assure you that you are missing out.
This is TER, you can read reviews, they'll give you a very good idea of how pretty a woman is.
Or not.
To anyone who cares to know -- this girl right here is a stunner.
last time I checked this was an illegal activity. If you want face hit up Tinder so you're on your even playing field
I look forward to reading eeveryone's option
I can see those ladies showing their faces didn't insure your happiness with the time you spent with them. Personally looking for consistently good reviews might help you more than some of the ladies you've seen who show their faces.
Just sayin!
Steph
I've never seen so many "Never agains" in so many reviews before.
"Never again" must just mean never again ... until next week.
Read the damn reviews.
To the user and providers who actually took the time to answer my questions I thank you for showing some class and giving me insight into the industry. Because that was the point of this entire discussion and to those who decided use this discussion to attack me like a bunch of useless internet trolls you can go fuck your mother.
Do you have a mommy issue?
Your reply was ridiculous and uncalled for.
You should buy your mother some flowers and treat mothers with respect.
I just had a 2hr session a few hours ago with a model-material-face provider and honestly, I don't think I can pick her out of a lineup now if I was told to. However, a smokin' body and a memorable ass, like tonight, would be forever tattooed in my shaky memory bank. lol
I'm trying to get a handle on what you meant by the use of the word "safe", as I'm not sure.
Do you mean feeling comfortable that you're attracted to her?
Or an actual safety/risk issue?
Perhaps I'm reading too much into what you wrote, or just taking you too literally, but "even playing field" indicates that the providers get to see your face in advance of meeting too.
I realize you weren't asking for providers' opinions, but I am curious.
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For the sane, we know that's just not reality. Many women who are not even ashamed of being escorts realize the implications of being outed as one. We are branded forever with the Scarlet Letter while guys get a high five and a movie out of it. We are reduced to working for entry level pay because very few companies are going to hire a known hooker as a VP of anything, so all those years in school busting our ass not to mention the student loan debt are tossed out the door for more pay in hookerland? Sorry, but I don't think so.
There is also the issue of hotel staff and the cops being able to readily identify you. When you show your face it is a bit hard to try and say, "Officer that is not me in the photos... I am just the model but another girl shows up."
Finally, yes many of us have children that are not even 8 yet. Can you imagine how many of their friends have dads who might be looking at these sites? The last thing I would ever want for my child is photos of her mother on the bulletin board at school because some asshole decided to out me for a post I made on TER.
Hope that answers your question... your jack off material and the need to see what you're buying is not as significant as my LIFE and future. I don't much care about the money I lose for not putting it all out there. Go see someone who can afford not to give a shit.
that so many gals have pics that are so lightly blurred that they might as well not bothered.
Does that perhaps prevent computers from identifying it?
If the intention is to fool computer software that is enough. Google the term CAPTCHA and you will see. Computers are very literal and need precise details. It only takes a few (intentionally) distorted pixels to fool it completely whereas human brain can still get the general idea of the pic.
I look forward to reading eeveryone's option