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Maybe the music is the problem. Read this post again...
floxiegirl2196 reads

I've struggled with severe depression for a long time, on and off, sometimes I'm fine for days or weeks and then in the hole for just as many. The hobby didn't cause my depression, it's been a part of my life since I was very young, and the hobby doesn't fuel my depression, but the hobby impacts my depression and the hobby is impacted by it.

My depression makes me feel hopeless, helpless, unattractive, worthless, and alone. And it sucks. It really sucks.  

I have so many sessions where I meet my suitor with the biggest, brightest smile, but I feel so empty and so sad. It's not their fault, obviously, and so I give a great session, and they write great reviews that are so nice to read but they don't change how I feel when I feel so invaluable. I do well in this business, really well, and when I'm not depressed I think that I should be content.. happy even. Not many 20 something's make what I do but, but the money only buys stuff.. and stuff doesn't fix depression. I wish.

I've had clients that seem depressed to me, on the outside looking in. And they may not be, I don't know, but they're distant, dismissive of compliments, anxious, they belittle themselves and their personalities.  

I wonder how common it is, depression, on either side of the coin, in this little hobby. It's common, I think, in the real world. But maybe it's different here, the ladies have to have thicker skin to deal with the barrage of insults about their age, race, weight, height, breast size, butt size. I'd imagine that the guys have to have pretty thick skin too.

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I get depressed after the fact. Ahead of time and during it I'm pumped to be with a young and sexy thing that is rocking my world but when it's done I'm back to being alone and stuck with whatever thoughts or pain I was trying to avoid and no amount of bbbj or anal or money can fix that. And if she didn't it live up to my built up expectations then the hole afterwards is even deeper.  

But a few days later the little general starts to rise and the cycle starts again.  

Good luck with your journey.

I think it's fine to spill your guts here, but this will not help you learn how to deal with your condition.  Depression is a huge problem for many people.  

If you honestly have those feeling as you described, trying to self-medicate or trying to work through it by yourself may be too huge a hurdle.

I wish you luck in finding people who can honestly help you.  But you need to help yourself by finding them first.  Godspeed.

RichardBong891 reads

You're as good as it gets. God has a special place for you.

floxiegirl943 reads

Anyone suffering from depression should seek help. I think often people do try to work through it, alone, and there's no benefit to that. Depression is not just a down day, it's chronic and it can be debilitating for people, and me too at times. Self medicating with drugs or alcohol or sex is pointless, and often leaves an emptier feeling than was there before.

If anyone want to spill their guts on this thread about their depression and how it affects their real and hobby life, I welcome that. That was the point of starting this thread. But I hope no one sees this thread as a substitute for medical attention and advice. Depression is as real as any other illness, and it deserves acknowledgement and care

AnonyMiss832 reads

And should be treated as such. It's important to get to a doctor quickly because one of the symptoms of depression is a feeling of hopelessness, so oftentimes a depressed person won't go to a doctor because they think it won't help. In reality life is not hopeless, things can and will get better, but you must seek treatment.  Also depression will leave you feeling drained of energy such that you won't want to get out of bed much less go to an appointment.  

I reiterate, you must, must see a doctor. You don't have to find the perfect therapist, just someone to start with who can diagnose you and begin treatment.  

And honestly floxie, what you describe doesn't sound particularly hobby-related to me. In fact, it reminds me of Kurt Cobain and how he said anyone who thinks success will solve their problems has never gotten what they wanted. He was at the pinnacle of his career but still depressed, and self-medicating  which made it even worse.  

Depression is a serious illness and should be respected as such. Get thee to a doctor and remember, things get better!  Trust me.

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Posted By: Looking4Phun
I think it's fine to spill your guts here, but this will not help you learn how to deal with your condition.  Depression is a huge problem for many people.    
   
 If you honestly have those feeling as you described, trying to self-medicate or trying to work through it by yourself may be too huge a hurdle.  
   
 I wish you luck in finding people who can honestly help you.  But you need to help yourself by finding them first.  Godspeed.

stucaboy807 reads

Think of depression as  something in your brain having an electrical problem or a chemical balance problem.  They can identify the problem and solve it with a pill.  Don't see a shrink.....they will solve nothing.   Whatever you do, solve the problem.  Living with depression is not a choice for you and those around you.

don't let things get to you, learn to shrug them off...see the sunshine through the trees...it could be worse, just look at the news and you'll see many who are much worse off, those who have overcome the impossible, been through the unimaginable, and those who experience darkness everyday of their lives that is simply terrifying.  When I feel down or even too happy, I visit and help out at a homeless shelter or women's shelter or back in Europe, at an orphange, and then I feel better, not only by knowing God loves me and blessed me with good fortune, but also by helping those less fortunate feel happy and hopeful. Maybe even changing lives.
Hope you feel better.  God Bless

IfIdknown803 reads

Nice advise but sort of a cheap shot  linking to your ad. 8o(

Posted By: Naughtyfrederica
don't let things get to you, learn to shrug them off...see the sunshine through the trees...it could be worse, just look at the news and you'll see many who are much worse off, those who have overcome the impossible, been through the unimaginable, and those who experience darkness everyday of their lives that is simply terrifying.  When I feel down or even too happy, I visit and help out at a homeless shelter or women's shelter or back in Europe, at an orphange, and then I feel better, not only by knowing God loves me and blessed me with good fortune, but also by helping those less fortunate feel happy and hopeful. Maybe even changing lives.  
 Hope you feel better.  God Bless

whollysh!!901 reads

I would think that depression here is higher than the general population. From both sides.

whollysh!!897 reads

Lot's of people that are lonely or in broken personal relationships.

Posted By: floxiegirl
Why so?

So much for the old bs adage of sex making people happy. It's like a drug, nothing more and when it fades you face reality. I think many people in this business face isolation because most have a secret they cannot tell anyone. Also, many are single with no children and move from town to town so keeping friends is also hard. I faced some serious depression back in the beginning when I had just moved to a new city, had no friends and this was pretty much my life being running an agency took 12 hours a day back then.  

I  joined a community center and Tennis Association just to have some things to do that did not revolve around sex. Dare I say it, a relationship with God (as much as possible whilst doing this) was probably the biggest impact on my overall well being. You need balance in life, and many here seem to work so much they burn out long before they expected. Get out and do things that do NOT involve this life, or it will consume you

I hope the OP reads this.  Excellent insight.
I have a witty comment I could ad but seems like this isn't the thread for frivolity .

I would also suggest finding a friend you trust and likes you for you that you can be fully honest with. Hiding a major part of ones life is isolating.  

While I never been a sex worker as no one is willing to pay to bed me, I know about isolation. It is a major factor in depression. I was gang  raped when I was 16. After it happened I called the rape hotline. When the lady heard I was male she said "We don't help rapists." I was mortified. I started tearing into myself destroying my own value. Shame made me hide it from the world, shame and fear. Who had ever heard of a man being raped? (Truth is 1 in ten men has had an unwanted sexual encounter and 1 in 33 have been raped. Over 2.7 Million men in the US report having been raped and it is likely the most under reported crime) We are supposed to be able to fend for our self aren't we? (There is always someone stronger and other ways to rape than brute force.) What an utter crock I fed myself. What an utter crock society feeds us.It wasn't until I found someone I could be honest with did I start to heel on the inside.  

Isolation is a killer. I lived it. The cause may have been different but everyone needs that one friend that will be there and you can trust to let it all out with.

Wow scoed... you are honest to a fault. I wish I had half the courage and drive that you still do after everything you have been through... You truly inspire me in so many ways, especially when I start bitching about things that are so damn trivial.

I also believe that each and every person has their own trials that to them are earth shattering and no one gets a pass. I also believe we all have our own strengths and weaknesses and what may seem trivial to you may be devastating to me. Like I am having a hard time with not having anything fucked up right now. Now to 99% of the worlds population that would be a God sent "problem" of having nothing major going wrong but I don't know how to handle it and it honestly terrifies me as I don't get my role right now. Now how silly does that seam? Yet for my it is a struggle.  

Yes everyone I know I am fucked up and need help. I am seeing someone to help learn how to cope with having nothing bad to cope with. Hell I am even losing weight. I am down to 284 and I started at 420.

GaGambler602 reads

The fact that the tenth leading cause of death in this country is proof positive that at least some people are getting a lot more than they can handle.

congrats again on losing all that weight

There is a huge difference between being able to do a thing and both knowing you can do it and being willing to do so. And please note I never said handle alone. No person is an island. I nearly died because I willing to seek help and learn how to cope with feelings. I had what I needed, but I attempted the cowardly way out.

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It got so bad I even once tried to end it. I got lucky in it didn't take and I was forced to get help. Don't wait depression is serous and real help is out there. Please get the help you need.

floxiegirl700 reads

I've heard that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and I think that's true. When my depression peaks.. I think of all sorts of things, ending my life, running away, dropping out.. of life? And it sounds rational and reasonable to me at the time, but depression robs us of reason doesn't it?

And that is why one should not face it alone. It is a disease that robs you of everything that makes life worth living and like any serous disease of similar magnitude it requires treatment as it doesn't necessarily go away on its own. The fact it robs one of reason in regards to ones value and life while robbing you of motivation to do anything but maybe eat makes it near impossible to handle on ones own and self medicating with sex, food (my first choice), drugs including alcohol, work (my second choice), or sleep doesn't work but only aggravated it. This is the reasons I suggest getting help. I been there more than once and I know I needed it.

I fear too often people equate depression with mental illness.  
Depression can be a result of many things. Chemical imbalance is one and it is very treatable  

Depression is common in many occupations.  

I would not see any connection to this or any other endeavor  to depression.
Lots of people become very skilled at wearing mask to hide inner turmoils.  Highly educated professional , blue collar workers , very religious types , backsliders , non believers , youngish , oldsters, good guys bad guys all are susceptible .  But you do not have to go though life feeling bad. And , btw, depression is not triggered by thinking you are doing bad things.  

The main thing is it is important to seek professional help.  You deserve to feel good.  We all do

floxiegirl820 reads

I think depression is a mental illness, and that's ok. Being labeled "mentally ill" sucks,  but if my brain is behaving in ways that are abnormal at times,  I would say it's an illness. I think the good thing is that it's a treatable illness, or problem, if illness is too harsh. Seeking help is paramount. If depression could be worked through without help, people wouldn't suffer from it for very long.

I think you are right though, about occupation having no connection to depression. So many peoples suffer from it, from so many different walks of life.

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You've made the first step, you sought out help.  Takes courage to do that regardless of the method you chose.  Now comes the next step - seeking professional help.  I know many will offer words of encouragement and suggestions.  However what worked for them might not be the best course of action for you.

I might have been one of those clients you've encountered along the way.  I've battled this for a good number of years now.  Back then most didn't recognize the symptoms and often when it hit, I heard "snap out of it", "what's wrong with you?".  I finally sought help on my own and continue to be treated for it.  It is manageable thankfully.

Now why I do this, come into this world on occasion.  It's because for whatever time I'm with someone I get to feel human again, like I have a reason or purpose.  It's amazing the healing powers of a human touch or a warm embrace.  But that's just me.

I want to wish you the best of everything and to encourage you to seek out help.  Real help.  

BTW, you sound like someone I know or have met IRL.  Don't know why, but you do.

Posted By: Just_this_one_time
It's amazing the healing powers of a human touch or a warm embrace.
Beautifully said, and ever so true. I feel very strongly about this, and often believe that so many suicides and even murders could have been prevented by something as simple as a hug at the right moment. This was proven to me recently when someone told me about a documentary that followed people who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge. A young man was crying and on the verge of jumping, and a woman who was with a couple of other ladies asked him to take a photo of them. He did, and they moved on. He said he wouldn't have jumped if the woman had just said something to him, like, "Are you ok?" But nothing. So he jumped. He survived, miraculously, but that's a haunting story.  

Human connection is so important to all of us. I see what we do here as a form of healing and therapy. And I love being a part of that- being able to bring love from the source. We all want and need it. I believe one day we will be honored for the work we do. Perhaps not in my time, but in a generation or so.

One of my favorite poems:

With That Moon Language

Admit something:
Everyone you see, you say to them, "Love me."
Of course you do not do this out loud, otherwise
Someone would call the cops.
Still, though, think about this, this great pull in us to connect.
Why not become the one who lives with a
Full moon in each eye that is always saying,
With that sweet moon language, what every other eye in
This world is dying to hear?

~Hafiz

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A lot of people don't want to remind themselves every day that they struggle with something, so they don't take medication or go to a doctor. Here's one thing I have found out, depression and anxiety are considered the common cold of mental illness, and rarely have a stigma in the medical industry. So getting treatment for that is pretty common.

I had a friend who struggled with it and finally went on anti-depressants. Totally turned her around. Other friends didn't find help in medicine.

Another thing that helps is not seeing people who insult you, even in the slightest sense, if they are coming to see you as a client. You need people who are going to build you up, and if you're an extremely sensitive person, go with people who will match you. (less money, but sounds to me like you think being happy is more important.) The fact that you don't have thick skin isn't always a bad thing. It can mean you have an empathetic heart and you feel harder.

As far as the depression goes, I don't have it except in winter, but not severe. I have had anxiety for years though, that music meditation has really helped. And sometimes completely dissolves. I listen to meditation music which balances me out, a newfound music therapy technique.  

I also select music I listen to carefully. Knowing your body is key. If certain types of music put a downer on my soul, I stop listening to it. Music is very powerful and it can take one hour of driving with that music on to make it a lot worse.

When I was a teenager, I dealt with very severe depression. I now realize how powerful the music I listened to was in worsening the depression. All of the grunge rock and alternative that I thought was comforting me and understanding me . was engraving the depression deeper. I cut it all off and switched to other types of music still in the rock realm, and that made a very big difference. More happy rock. Over time I learned what made me feel better and worse and learned my body signals. If I started feeling tired, nauseous, discouraged, or drained from a song, or even confused, I knew it wasn't what I needed to be listening to.

I also threw out my TV. Some tv shows and movies effected me more than most other people, because I am sensitive. I still don't watch TV, and if I do, it's very rare and only when other people are watching it. A little bit is ok for me, but nothing that upsets me.

I don't think you have to have too thick skin here. I think you just have to know what you can handle and what you can't handle, what your gifts are, and be willing to know you're fine when others don't. The best way to do that is to cut off anyone who makes you feel bad about yourself in ANY WAY. Those people you can't change, and you won't change. I can't say all of this will get rid of how you feel, but it has significantly changed how I view the world, which is a good start to healing. Negative influences can weigh you down and hold you back from your happiness.

Now I am just telling you what I did, but I still think going to a doctor is ok. A lot of people deal with depression and anxiety and you'd have no idea.

Depression is just not enough dopamine or seratonin in the brain. There is no chemical for sadness, so sadness is sort of the feeling you get when there's not "enough" of D&S. Your problem may come because simply your physiology is not balanced. That thing that happens every month might be the cause of it and I don't know if there is a remedy for that.  

Your problem may come from your take or philosophy on life. Everyone has been through depression, except the occasional idiot. There's also another type of person who's almost immune to depression and its Stoic people. Read and research on Stoicism. When you are depressed because of your take on life, its usually because you care or think too much. Stoicism helps you with this in a way that isn't cold turkey forcing yourself and instead provides you logic and reasoning of why you shouldn't care or think so much about the things that make you sad.

It might come from loneliness. If this is the case just go out and meet ordinary people lol. My take on loneliness is if you are not happy being alone with yourself, you are doing life wrong. You need to be happy being by yourself before you can be happy with others.  

Money is more useful than you think lol. Use it to buy time instead of stuff and travel once in a while. Travel isn't a luxury, you can get great deals like Bali or Thailand or Hoch or Saigon. Those cities are cheap and filled with English speaking expats and tourists. You can live like a king there on dollars a day. I'm talking about blue oceans, great food, nice beaches. Many providers go backpacking.  

In the end life on default is absurd, its meaningless. The pessimist sees this as something depressing. The optimist sees this as opportunity to create meaning out of life and thus we get society, families, art, literature... cool things!

I started seeing a therapist, tried medications, made a lot of life changes like going on a medical leave or picking up new hobbies. Interestingly enough, I feel that the turning point was when I started working in the industry. I started feeling motivated to get out of bed, I had fun with my work, I got paid to do something I love. I needed to gain control of my life and feel fulfilled, and I found that in my work. I stopped taking antidepressants right as I started this line of work and haven't picked them up since, but I know a lot of people for whom they work well and I found them to be an okay aid in the beginning.

It took time; it wasn't a perfect journey. My first therapist later revealed herself to be very judgmental and I switched over to one who has been a wonderful source of positive energy and support. I tried quite a few different medications but none of them made me feel good the way that making better life choices have. I've gotten to a point where I'm much more happy and healthy. My clients lately have been wonderful and very sweet, and I will certainly try to only see people who make me feel good about myself. In that way the industry has helped me become more confident and comfortable.

or might notice my depression. Mostly back in the days of old L.A. TER days.
I blame me unluckiness with the opposite sex and jobs, careers and stuff.  
I think it must be depression or anxiety or something. i don't know I've never seen a doctor. Even though I worked for a health insurance co. for 10 years. At the time at thought I had made it and I was OK. But after 2008 I feel something is not ok.  

But it's OK. Like somebody said. I know it could be worse. I know it is worse somewhere else for somebody else.
I could be back some where else, way back them, some when.

I really don't want to see know doctor. I enjoy my my inside anger, my rage, my war. It makes me stronger and feel alive,
Mostly thru music. I love to feel rebellious and do stuff and participate in stuff like the hobby. I know I'm very smart. Otherwise if i had a weaker mind I would have done stupid negative stuff. But I never did nor will do. I just wish my smartness would have translated into earning a little bit more money. But I failed at that.

Just leave me alone. Like bees, don't mess with me and I won't mess with you. I'm really nice like anybody would tell you and a real gentlemen with the ladies. My problems are my problems. I take it on my own like by grinding my teeth at night. But wearing a night guard.

Woo hoo let's party. Have fun people. Use your anger in a positive way. We're only here for a little while.

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I agree with many here that suggested that you seek professional help.  We all suffer from depression from time to time.  Know that you are not alone and take comfort in the fact there are people in the world that can help.  Asking for some help when you need it is never anything to be ashamed of.

Some things that may be of benefit that you can try...

1) Exercise.  Walking, jogging, working out, etc.  Stress can trigger the body's fight or flight mechanism and exercise is a way to burn off that negative energy.  Also seeing positive changes in your outward appearance can promote inner positive change as well.

2) Take up yoga and meditation.  It's soothing and good for your mind and body.  Just dedicating some time to connecting your mind and spirit is beneficial.

3) Learn something.  The mind can turn on itself when it is bored, under utilized, or frustrated.  Take up a new language.  Pick up a brush and paint something.  Find a cooking class and take it.  Finding different ways to express yourself can help.  Give your brain something constructive it can do.

4) Help others.  I believe in helping others we help ourselves.  Seeing someone else's problems can help us put our own lives into perspective.  Helping someone else that is mentally or financially challenged can benefit you both.  Plus, there is this thing called Karma that I am a big believer in.

5) Limit outside media.  Every time you turn on the tv, check the internet, or open a magazine you are bombarded by negative images, energy, and stereotypes.  The media would have us believe that the world is coming to an end but if we just buy whatever product they happen to be selling it will make us happy, healthy, productive citizens.  Their job is to create a problem and then sell you a solution to that problem.  That's how they want it.  

Not that there aren't problems in the world, but you have to work on yourself first right now.  Tackle something you can actually do something about (see number 4).  But turn off all that negative energy and pick up a good book instead.

6) Travel.  Sometimes just looking at the same landscape every day can get boring, which can lead to depression.  Mix it up.  Get a new perspective - literally.  Breaking out of the same routine can be a big help.  Meet new people.  And put that new language you learned in number 3 to good use.  ;-)  Have fun.

I wish you the very best.  Don't give up.  Things can and do get better

do not try to drown it in recreational drugs, alcohol, or sex. No matter how hard, find the energy to seek counseling and appropriate medication.

I met a lady who, as you described in your post, gave a great session. Something in her drew out affection from me. She sensed that. When we had finished "business" she burst into tears and poured out her heart. She said she was so riddled with depression that she was virtually paralyzed. We spent about an hour off the clock just talking. She apologized profusely for taking up my time, while all I cared about was the hurting human being before me. She clearly was very bright and had wonderful ambitions in life outside of the hobby. Yet she was not sure how her health insurance worked or how to go about finding mental health. She perceived the process of contacting her insurer or doctors as overwhelming. Everything was overwhelming. She had stopped functioning in her outside interests. She wasn't sure she had the will power to take care of routine matters in her life. We got to the point where I helped her make a simple list of things to do to get help. I urged her to take one step in front of another and do what was on the list.  Specifically, I urged her to call her health insurer as soon as I left and she said she would. Several months later I read that she had died, apparently from an overdose. This haunts me; what more, if anything, should I have done? Should I have inserted myself into her life and become a crutch? Maybe. I don't know the answer, but if there is a moral it is that you yourself must take control of your life and push through depression to seek help.  

Best wishes to you. You are much more deserving of love than you feel entitled to right now. You are not alone and there are ways to get help, there are professionals who can offer help, and there are people like you who have benefited greatly from being helped. Start by helping yourself.  xoxox

I'm so sorry she checked out. I'm also so sorry it left a sadness for you. But it's a good reminder for all of us about that saying- Be kind to everyone you meet, for they could be fighting a battle you know nothing about.

Thank you for sharing that.

That was so beautiful and I'm so sorry for your loss.  
She was blessed to have met you!! Thank you for caring. 😘

Not sure if that makes it an addiction or what.

I sure like the medication, in any case.

I know several people near and dear to me, and anti-depressants seem to keep their depression in check

Have you traveled much? Particularly outside of the U.S., away from resorts and for a somewhat extended duration of time (at least a week) so that you can experience the different ways that people around the world live? There are so many wonders of the world to experience and it's not the same as watching a travel show - you have to be there!

A change of pace can work wonders. Our senses are at their most heightened when engaged with new experiences.

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I do think there are some people that are clinically depressed but I think most people "suffering" from depression can blame society, media, environment, etc. We sit here and have people who are depressed and get so upset by the littlest shit. I told my SO the other day we're watching people on the news who walked 30 miles to get to Germany from the terrors in their country and here I am bitching and crying cause my AC stopped working in my house.  

I see people so "depressed" about their situations that can be fixed, they just don't want to put in the work to fix it. So many people are so weak sometimes, myself included. I'll complain about stuff going wrong in my life and throw myself a day, week, or month pity party, yet I'm the one who keeps the issue going.  

I remember in college we discussed a study that was done with 100s of people who were suffering from depression, half were given an actual depression medication and the other half were given a placebo. At least 70 percent of the patients that were treated with the placebo were magically treated and felt so much better, all over this sugar pill.  

I get that we go through rough times, but give me a break. I see people complain about their job, life, SO, school, money, yet they do nothing to fix it. We are spoiled by all the basics we have, that others are running and fleeing to get, yet, more often than not, we are the reason, we are in the situation that we are suffering from, yet we do nothing to fix it. We justify doing the same thing, living the same life, take medication and blame depression.  

It's not even just depression anymore, everyone has something now a days. A fucking gluten allergy (WTF?), Add, Adhd, ODD, anything to excuse or make a buck off of. There are no "bad ass kids" anymore, there's little Timmy that has ADHD. There's no "spoiled ass teenagers' anymore it's teens suffering from Oppositional Defiant Disorder. You get bloated after eating wheat ? OMG you must be suffering from a gluten allergy.  

Pfft, I know I'll get shit and please OP I am not saying that you are not suffering from depression. I'm just stating my opinion regarding the entire "depression dilemma" as a whole.

100's of people. Let's say 400.
Half were given a placebo. 200.
70% showed improvements. 140.
That's still  
60/200 that didnt show improvements from a sugar pill.
How many of the ones given the anti depressant (which one at which mg) showed signs of improvement? Probably not 100%.

Not serious? Ok.

It's a combination of things that make one cure depression. No magic pill. No magic boyfriend. No magic job. It's a mind controlled disease that takes time and trial and error

That is a good point.
I have tried every medicine for depression under the sun.  Medicine no matter what is at best a band aid.  Even shock therapy was no help.  Please do not get shock therapy for depression. I don't care how many doctor's say it will help.  I saw them cook a kid the same age I was who had 5 more treatments than me to the point he was almost catatonic.  Scared me so much that I quit the treatment program right there.  

There is no cure for clinical depression that I know of.  You have to learn to live with it, and that is tough.  A good support group of family and friends is important as well.  You should also try the route of going to a doctor as well.  It is not the cure they will give you, but a brief respite from the symptoms of depressions can be had with the medication and therapy.  Just do not go for that shock therapy stuff, or what is referred to as ECT.  Stay away from ECT.

I personally deal with depression by staying busy.  Even reading a book is much better than dwelling on bad thoughts I might be having.  Television is shit ( except for shows like Seinfeld ), but inspirational movies are good for me.  I take no medication or see doctors now.  I ran the gauntlet of all there was for depression.  There was nothing there to help me.  I finally accepted it when I read in a book that all the medications are nothing more than band aids.  All the bullshit about how depression can be cured, and yet I never felt better, made me more depressed.  But accepting the fact that I had it, and it was mine for life, made me stronger.  A bitter pill, but I am proud that I am still here and muddling along in life just fine.  

Get help first from medical professionals.  Then when you have a chanch to reflect, can you decide whether medicine or something else is going to work for you in the long run.  I wish you the best.

Were you aware that today is world suicide prevention day?

What a day to make this post!

Depression is now something from my past. Is it something that if you truly work on, it can be a thing of your past too.

I would love to say what worked for me, but that is my story and may not work for another.  

Depression usually isn't cured (masked can often be confused with cured) by money and superficial compliments. They can both help.. You need money to eat well and to have a place to sleep well. Compliments can definitely give that boost, but depending who they come from they can be of minimal long lasting effect or they can be of life changing effect..

I hope anyone suffering from depression is currently seeking help and if not, start today.

If you can't afford therapy, try group activities.
If you don't have the time, try deleting Facebook.

Depression is a nasty disease, but it is a curable disease.

Find your freedom from it and enjoy the rest of your life depression free!
:)
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if youre embarrassed.. have your friend with you. you have to give your info to health officials due to hipaa laws, but you can be on speaker with some support nearby.  

if youre overwhelmed, sit somewhere quiet with your feet on the floor and breath.

http://www.copdfoundation.org/What-is-COPD/Living-with-COPD/Breathing-Techniques.aspx

ifs and buts are really excuses that one has when they are confronted with fear. when youre at a baseline you realize you can do these things.

having a little piece of paper in your wallet with three things that help you is a great tool. when youre starting to feel something come on, grab that paper.  

in my early 20s i was worthless. now in my ill be 37 next month, my friends come to me. you'll be able to be this person. you already have a start above many. you have an understanding of whats going on. youre able to acknowledge and accept that is is depression. it takes many their life to finally come to terms with that.  

:)

have a great day and take today to find your freedom from this nasty thing called depression. wait patiently until suicide prevention day 2016. you'll look back on this and be amazed!
xo

Depression can be hereditary. My mother and every one of her children suffered from it.

There's situational depression. For example, being depressed after getting a divorce. What you might call "the blues".  

There's the chemical imbalance in the brain, which is the most common hereditary type of depression.

There's non-chemical but chronic depression that people have for years or even all their lives.

As has already been said in other posts, see a professional. Be careful about who you choose to go with, as there's a ton of quacks in the psychiatric business.  

Don't just let your family doctor prescribe medication. He's giving you whatever it is the hot pharmaceutical saleswoman who just blew him is selling. Get medication from whichever psychiatrist you select.

Ignore the people who say it's nothing that can't be fixed by going to the gym or taking up whatever hobby it is they're involved in. Depression is very real. The worst thing about it is the years of your life you can't get back, having suffered with it when you could have been treated and enjoyed those years fully. I know whereof I speak.

Agree - it's a very real medical condition.  There are definitely inherited factors as pointed out by donbecker54 as well as a myriad of known and unknown environmental factors.  Did you know that even brain anatomy is different in those with chronic depression?  The hippocampus is frequently observed to be smaller than it should be in those who suffer from chronic depression.  

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 Ignore the people who say it's nothing that can't be fixed by going to the gym or taking up whatever hobby it is they're involved in.  
And this is GREAT advice.  While it is very true that exercise, positive thinking, and all that jazz DO help depression (and even more so than medications), they work when people are on the way up or aren't in it too deeply.  When someone is down down in a bottomless pit, they can barely take care of essential needs (if even that) much less go for a jog or think happy thoughts.  For those who might get the occasional mild blues, self-help measures are great, but those in the depths of despair only feel guiltier about not being able to do the things they "ought" to be doing or feeling, so "helpful" advice can make them feel even worse.  If anyone is at that stage, definitely seek help!  

As to OPs original question - I agree with a couple of other posters that it's probably as common in the hobby as anywhere else. I'd guess some providers as well as hobbyists have to deal with the genetic lottery or crappy life circumstances or both...

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You can tell from the sincerity of many replies that you have to take depression seriously, it can affect anyone in any walk of life, and those who responded care about you even though we have never met you and probably never will.  That might help, if guilt is part of your emotional makeup.  I've met a number of people who suffered from serious depression, a couple of them suicidal, in and out of the hobby, and each case is different, so do due diligence and find a really good therapist.  Your posts offer some optimism -- they seem aware, intelligent, and open to working on your situation.  
The most shocking case I know is of a well known therapist in my city who had a terrific reputation for helping mostly anorexic and/or bulimic girls.  She was wise and wonderful and everyone was shocked when one day she herself committed suicide.  Another case was a provider friend who told me she was close to suicide several times, causes unknown, at least to me.  I asked her if she liked her work, and she said, "If I have a good customer, I can really enjoy it," so the cause was not the hobby which indeed provided a good income for her and her dependent.  You CAN deal with depression, but you have to get the right therapy and all the rest, starting right away.

the HBMA poster above, but thought it was good info for everyone involved in this thread!

Have you tried probiotics? 95 percent of the body's serotonin is found in the gut. There's loads of research out there on how diet can affect depression. Hippocrates said, "Let food be thy medicine."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

http://www.caltech.edu/news/microbes-help-produce-serotonin-gut-46495

http://www.livescience.com/49248-gut-bacteria-mental-health.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3601973/

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/06/20/gut-brain-connection.aspx

we have something in common. We're a member of a club no one wants to be a member of. The first time I saw your alias I knew. I hope to see you on the PO board soon. In the mean time I'll check on you from time to time. And contact me anytime you want to talk.

Take care my fellow floxie!

Steph xoxo

I'm there with you. Major Depression is something I have fought for 20 years now, and in my case it's not going away; it is something to be treated and managed. I've had enough episodes, and of such severity, that I will be taking an antidepressant for the rest of my life (Celexa at the moment).

In your situation, there are really two issues in play: First, is the depression you experience situational, i.e. - is it tied to your profession and the emotional toll it may be taking? Or, is this a more pervasive condition? Regardless of the etiology, the first step (insert thousand-miles cliche' here!) is to see a professional; definitely an MD, and preferably a psychiatrist since the latter will be capable of what we call "differential diagnosis" -- determining if it's depression or something else entirely. An area they would want to know is if there is a history of depression in your family. Of all the mental health conditions, the one with the highest factor loading for genetics is -- you guessed it -- depression. My own mother was severely depressed her entire life, and eventually committed suicide.

The good news is this, though: depression is very, very treatable, and I am living proof. So please, reach out to a qualified professional and get their assessment and assistance. You've also received some excellent feedback in other replies here, too. Let us know how you're doing, and PM me if you want and I can offer what what few insights I may be able to provide.

Be well!

This is the best thread! It is awesome that you can bring this p. It helps me to remember that depression is natural for artists...and I consider providers artists in creating sensual experiences. Everyday, you have to create something out of nothing, recapture magic and impart it to other people, in the most intimate way possible. This is no easy task. I imagine that you, like  
most providers, are good at using somatic awareness (body awareness and intuition) in your work. And that can be a technique to turn the attention back to you and use your own sensual energy to hold you and even lift you through depression. in sex school, we talked a lot about ways to masturbate with and for depression. Also, myself and a colleague are creating a national directory and phone support group of counselors who are also providers and can give support to these issues. I can keep you posted about this, if you want. I always think, for myself, that since I am so close to beauty and pleasure all the time (the work and the passion of the provider0 then it is also a quite natural part of the balance to be really aquainted with sorrow or a sense of flow.

You forget...!

And London! I still want to bury my fucking dick in you!....  ;)

and welcome back.

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