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Re: Thank you for some honesty
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It comes out during small talk, most times I'm directly asked.  Why, would that ruin the fantasy for you?  Doesn't bother me that you have a wife at home, so why should it matter to my friends that I'm engaged?  Freebie dating wouldn't and didn't enter the picture well before my beau.

I hardly "sell ass".  I suppose you have never had a real GFE experience. You poor thing : (  And he knows this "ass" belongs to him, no matter who borrowed it for the day.  GaG is right, we're only cheating if we're sneaking around.  He knows what I do.  He chooses not to see other women, but if he did, it's purely physical.  Couldn't blame the guy, I travel a lot.  He loves me and I love him, and my love for him doesn't end when the clock runs out.

Why does he have to be a loser that I pay for?  That's actually really hilarious knowing how successful and smart he is.  But I suppose the women you're used to in this aren't somehow worthy of having a brilliant, open-minded man falling for them...  

My S/O did engage in the hobby at one time.  So what?  How are you somehow better than anyone else on here?  Why are you so bitter?
Posted By: ragnar27
Why do you tell your clients that you have an SO?  That seems like far too much info most of the guys need or want to know.  But I know many gals tell the guys that so they won't bother them for freebie dating and stuff.  I guess that's really what you are doing.  
   
 If you're telling the truth that some guy is going to be happy with you continuing to sell ass while he is at home watching the kids or whatever, I don't get that either.  But since you're now going to be the cheater I guess he'll stick around as long as you pay for him.  I hate the loser BF/SO that some of you have, it's really sad to hear that.  
   
 One last question, is this SO a former john?  Is he really done cheating on you too?

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I can't imagine why these fellas honestly think that most of the women here really can leave this place with a guy they meet here.  The guy is a cheater already.

And the women are mostly professional liars.  I'm not saying that in a bad way ladies, but many of you have honed that skill far beyond the ladies who aren't hookers.

To they usual suspects, please don't babble again that you won't get married.  Maybe try reading the post and if you have something of interest that is answering the post, fine.

GaGambler891 reads

Please don't tell me that mean old CosmicSuckUp has stolen her back from you.

It's really a shame to see guys get so bitter and angry when their lady love leaves them for another guy, but please remember you stole her in the first place, turnabout is fair play. lol

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It's really a pathetic scene too.

Gizzy is doing OK now.  I hope that she can finally find some exit here.  But just like the Alexandra post, they lie to themselves and eventually reality hits.

It's not good to lie to oneself and honestly expect it to become the truth.

You've not been specific at all to telling me what I lie about thus far...

Posted By: ragnar27
It's really a pathetic scene too.  
   
 Gizzy is doing OK now.  I hope that she can finally find some exit here.  But just like the Alexandra post, they lie to themselves and eventually reality hits.  
   
 It's not good to lie to oneself and honestly expect it to become the truth.

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I don't think it would be in your best interest for me to delineate all the other lies you've stated here.

Which is fine since my real name isn't ragnar either.

It's Kole.  And I don't recall ever stating that's my real name...no lies here : )

Posted By: ragnar27
I don't think it would be in your best interest for me to delineate all the other lies you've stated here.  
   
 Which is fine since my real name isn't ragnar either.

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Then please change your fake name to your real name.  Then it would not be a lie.

Or can't you?  Which would seem that you do lie, and are deceptive.

See, that was the entire thrust of my OP.  It's rampant in this place, the lying, deception, cheating.  Thank you for helping me to discuss it.

Lying isn't a bad thing either.  Some of my favorite people are the best damned liars I've ever met.

Again, allow me to spell it out for you...my website, ads, etc. make no mention that Alexandra Kole is my real name, therefore, there is no lie there.

My entire family knows what I do.  I don't blur my photos.  Alexandra Kole is so much more sultry, lots more appealing, just like that "ass I sell", than my real name...but again, I've never lied and said Alexandra Kole is my real name.  I'm guessing you could ask any of my reviewers what my real name is and they can tell you, as I don't hide it.

Lying is a very bad thing.  But you're awfully honest about how angry and bitter you are.  

Posted By: ragnar27
Then please change your fake name to your real name.  Then it would not be a lie.  
   
 Or can't you?  Which would seem that you do lie, and are deceptive.  
   
 See, that was the entire thrust of my OP.  It's rampant in this place, the lying, deception, cheating.  Thank you for helping me to discuss it.  
   
 Lying isn't a bad thing either.  Some of my favorite people are the best damned liars I've ever met.

For something to be a harmful lie there must be an expectation that what is asserted is the truth. Only an idiot would believe a provider's name is her real one. What's your next trick, telling us that Dr. Seuss lied to generations of children becuase he didn't sign his books Theodor Geisel?

My Dad would never order Dr. Brown's Celray Tonic because the waitress could never tell him what medical school Dr. Brown attended.

though I have a long list of reasons not to drink a celery based carbonated beverage before I get down to its creator's questionable medical credentials

He told me of the wondrous WooWoo Bird which, when pursued, flies in ever decreasing concentric circles until at last he flies up his own asshole, from which vantage point he flings his shit upon his pursuers.
I believe Ragnar has perfected this technique.

This is some advice for some of our dimmest bulbs  How do you tell your ass from a hole in the ground?
Insert your arm into the hole.  If you can walk away, it's the former not the latter.

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Who says I would need to "leave this place"? I'm getting married to someone that I love dearly, but I plan on continuing to fuel Alexandra Kole's fire. Why not? He knows and is comfortable with it and so am I. Neither if us were looking for or planned to ever let it go where it just naturally did for us.

Men cheat for a multitude of reasons, it doesn't make them bad people. Some have a fantasy they can't act out with the misses because it'll blow the wig right off of her head. Some are still in love with their S/O but have no physical intimacy anymore. Some can't stand their S/O but stay for other obligations (i.e. children). What about the single guys I see? What's your judgment on them? Not everyone is a total pig simply because they indulge.

I'd be curious to know what exactly it is that I lie so well about?! My gentlemen friends know I have an S/O, my S/O knows what I do. If anything, I'd say most of us are far more honest than some civvie gold-digger that's going to marry the guy, take everything he owns and rake him over the coals in a divorce. My rates are posted and when our time is up I fall right back out of love until the next time you walk through the door.

Posted By: ragnar27
I can't imagine why these fellas honestly think that most of the women here really can leave this place with a guy they meet here.  The guy is a cheater already.  
   
 And the women are mostly professional liars.  I'm not saying that in a bad way ladies, but many of you have honed that skill far beyond the ladies who aren't hookers.  
   
 To they usual suspects, please don't babble again that you won't get married.  Maybe try reading the post and if you have something of interest that is answering the post, fine.
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This is one of the most transparent introductions a man and woman can have.  I know he's married, he knows I see other clients.  We meet for as long and as frequently as he wishes, and eventually we part ways without bitterness, drama, or dividing assets.

Alexandra, this is perfect "My rates are posted and when our time is up I fall right back out of love until the next time you walk through the door".

ragnar27645 reads

Have you come out to everyone about what you do here?

There is absolutely no one who's life would be changed in any way knowing about my sex life.

Nobody has ever asked me if I hobby, monger or play in our sport. If someone were to ask Id likely tell them the truth though, I have nothing to lose.

ragnar27658 reads

That's fine as well, most people do.

Have you told your employers that you waste your time here during business hours as well?

ragnar27836 reads

Why do you tell your clients that you have an SO?  That seems like far too much info most of the guys need or want to know.  But I know many gals tell the guys that so they won't bother them for freebie dating and stuff.  I guess that's really what you are doing.

If you're telling the truth that some guy is going to be happy with you continuing to sell ass while he is at home watching the kids or whatever, I don't get that either.  But since you're now going to be the cheater I guess he'll stick around as long as you pay for him.  I hate the loser BF/SO that some of you have, it's really sad to hear that.

One last question, is this SO a former john?  Is he really done cheating on you too?

GaGambler670 reads

Kind of like you and Giselle sneaking around on poor old CosmisSuckUp, don't you think it would serve you right if she left you, either to go back to him, or to "upgrade" once again?

BTW, why does the BF/Husband have to be a lazy ass who sits at home while she earns the bacon? I've been an SO to more than a couple of hookers and they never supported me, it was a pleasant change to be dating a woman with plenty of her own money though. I find hookers are a LOT less needy, clingy, not to mention money grubbing than most other women I know. It's rare I go out with my hooker friends where I don't have to fight them to pick up the check, most other women are more than happy to let me pay for not only them but all their friends as well.

I know you are angry and bitter right now, but don't worry someone else will come along some day.

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I don't cheat on anyone.  Gizzy is a big girl and see's whoever she sees.  She needs the money.  It's the poor schmucks that don't understand what is happening here.  They don't understand that the lying here is rampant.  The women have perfected that art while being here, they have to to keep sane.  

You read the posts from many hookers here.  They are disgusted by the men here.  But lie to them and tell them what studs they are.  You know this to be true.

Thank you for tossing in the angry and bitter comment as well.

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but not all women here lie. Take H+T for example, she is honest to a fault and gets the MHB label attached to her for doing so. You know the same thing happens to the guys who are honest, we get labeled misogynists for our efforts.

and are you saying that you were "one of those guys" lying around on the couch all day while Gizzy supported your lazy ass? No wonder she left you.

man I hope she gets in on this!

I lie like a rug to my johns. That I have always admitted to. If I told them the absolute truth I would not have any repeat clients. It is part of the job as far as I am concerned. I lie frequently. Other hookers might lie rarely and others might never lie. Can't speak for them.

WORD!

Posted By: GaGambler
Kind of like you and Giselle sneaking around on poor old CosmisSuckUp, don't you think it would serve you right if she left you, either to go back to him, or to "upgrade" once again?  
   
 BTW, why does the BF/Husband have to be a lazy ass who sits at home while she earns the bacon? I've been an SO to more than a couple of hookers and they never supported me, it was a pleasant change to be dating a woman with plenty of her own money though. I find hookers are a LOT less needy, clingy, not to mention money grubbing than most other women I know. It's rare I go out with my hooker friends where I don't have to fight them to pick up the check, most other women are more than happy to let me pay for not only them but all their friends as well.  
   
 I know you are angry and bitter right now, but don't worry someone else will come along some day.

It comes out during small talk, most times I'm directly asked.  Why, would that ruin the fantasy for you?  Doesn't bother me that you have a wife at home, so why should it matter to my friends that I'm engaged?  Freebie dating wouldn't and didn't enter the picture well before my beau.

I hardly "sell ass".  I suppose you have never had a real GFE experience. You poor thing : (  And he knows this "ass" belongs to him, no matter who borrowed it for the day.  GaG is right, we're only cheating if we're sneaking around.  He knows what I do.  He chooses not to see other women, but if he did, it's purely physical.  Couldn't blame the guy, I travel a lot.  He loves me and I love him, and my love for him doesn't end when the clock runs out.

Why does he have to be a loser that I pay for?  That's actually really hilarious knowing how successful and smart he is.  But I suppose the women you're used to in this aren't somehow worthy of having a brilliant, open-minded man falling for them...  

My S/O did engage in the hobby at one time.  So what?  How are you somehow better than anyone else on here?  Why are you so bitter?

Posted By: ragnar27
Why do you tell your clients that you have an SO?  That seems like far too much info most of the guys need or want to know.  But I know many gals tell the guys that so they won't bother them for freebie dating and stuff.  I guess that's really what you are doing.  
   
 If you're telling the truth that some guy is going to be happy with you continuing to sell ass while he is at home watching the kids or whatever, I don't get that either.  But since you're now going to be the cheater I guess he'll stick around as long as you pay for him.  I hate the loser BF/SO that some of you have, it's really sad to hear that.  
   
 One last question, is this SO a former john?  Is he really done cheating on you too?

GaGambler756 reads

When calling someone bitter, it's customary to call him angry as well. Ragnar is one of the "angry and bitter" crowd, most likely old as well. lol

You do bring up a good point about you traveling. Most of the time when I am serious about a woman, hooker or otherwise, I don't tend to stray as long as I am getting my needs met at home. Her traveling for work is a completely different matter for me. If my GF/SO or whatever is on tour having sex with other guys, I completely reserve the right to go "get some" for myself until she comes home. My last serious provider GF didn't see it that way. She would get obsessively jealous when she traveled and would come unglued if I didn't immediately respond to her calls, texts etc. accusing me of "cheating on her" while she was gone for a couple of weeks at a time. It actually ended our relationship as I couldn't handle her jealousy and broke it off.

It provides no good outcome and only hurts both parties.

If someone isn't happy, they should just leave. I don't believe in religions, but I do believe in the whole free will idea.

You got me : )  Wow, poor little guy really is seriously angry and bitter...he's in need of some release.

I admit I wouldn't like it if it were a regular occurrence on his part, but again, he knows this.  Plans are to travel as much as we can together, since of course, it's never as good with anyone else as it is when it's us anyway.  And if you have to stray, make it count!  Now that I've relocated to a much bigger city, I don't plan to travel as much anymore anyway.  Truth be told, if he ever did stray, how would I really know?  I'd rather not stress over that, but the only reason I'd come unglued would be dishonesty, never jealousy.

Posted By: GaGambler
When calling someone bitter, it's customary to call him angry as well. Ragnar is one of the "angry and bitter" crowd, most likely old as well. lol  
   
 You do bring up a good point about you traveling. Most of the time when I am serious about a woman, hooker or otherwise, I don't tend to stray as long as I am getting my needs met at home. Her traveling for work is a completely different matter for me. If my GF/SO or whatever is on tour having sex with other guys, I completely reserve the right to go "get some" for myself until she comes home. My last serious provider GF didn't see it that way. She would get obsessively jealous when she traveled and would come unglued if I didn't immediately respond to her calls, texts etc. accusing me of "cheating on her" while she was gone for a couple of weeks at a time. It actually ended our relationship as I couldn't handle her jealousy and broke it off.

I'll just call the guy lucky as hell! :-)

I might be in love; your thoughts are refreshing. thanks

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MFM can be fun

Ask about BBFS too since I'm sure if she's marrying this guy they're not using condoms.

I'm sure she wouldn't lie about any of this.

MFM is rad!  One of my favs : )  Pretty bummed when I lost my male bi duos partner due to my move.  Great idea, Raggy!!!  My fiancé isn't bi, but he's totally into exhibition, interesting idea...

You are warped, homie.  What does BBFS with my gentlemen friends have to do with BBFS with an S/O?  Do all of my gentlemen friends wrap it up with other providers?  Fuck, I hope so.  Do they all wrap it up with their S/Os?  Don't know.  Do you?  You seem to know pretty much everything else.

Posted By: ragnar27
MFM can be fun  
   
 Ask about BBFS too since I'm sure if she's marrying this guy they're not using condoms.  
   
 I'm sure she wouldn't lie about any of this.  

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She's tried it a few times but it really isn't much in demand.  Too many guys who read about that get turned off.

I also saw your other post saying that your BF will be traveling with you.  You should not discuss that openly (as in lie a bit) or some might think he's just your pimp.  No one likes to find out that women actually have pimps, even though many of us know it to be true.

Thank you for putting the BBFS to rest.  It's also a topic that is so readily dismissed as not happening.  At least you are being honest that you are going BBFS.  So many here also think that's just not happening here.

I have to SMH at how dense you are.  And the assumptions you make.  You'll never know if I'm traveling with him or not.  But I'm really glad to hear I've gained another super admirer that's going to cling to every word I say.

Says who MFM isn't in demand???  Oh, right, says you, Raggy.

I'm sure he'll be as tickled over the whole 'pimp' idea as I am : )

I didn't say I either do BBFS or I don't with him, but thanks for being so concerned about us.  It's nice to feel loved isn't it ; )

Posted By: ragnar27
She's tried it a few times but it really isn't much in demand.  Too many guys who read about that get turned off.  
   
 I also saw your other post saying that your BF will be traveling with you.  You should not discuss that openly (as in lie a bit) or some might think he's just your pimp.  No one likes to find out that women actually have pimps, even though many of us know it to be true.  
   
 Thank you for putting the BBFS to rest.  It's also a topic that is so readily dismissed as not happening.  At least you are being honest that you are going BBFS.  So many here also think that's just not happening here.

Some hookers have these slimy little man children running after many of their posts because what?...she ignored your email? She said no to your sweaty fistful of ones? Or you just hate the fact that she does her business her way and you disagree? Doesn't really matter what the reason is, you are now looking five shades more pathetic

I know of several gals married to former clients.  That said, the percentage is tiny compared to the number of clients who fell, could not get up, then found out she wasn't actually in love with them.

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that your babble is of much interest to anyone?

Unless you are cool with open relationships and just want to have some more fun, pretty odd indeed. Not one for 'forever' with the same d*ck, but it's nice to have someone you can hang out with, party with on the weekends and have great sex without strings... hey, is that not the hobby? LOL.

ragnar27855 reads

Simply can't be honest about this world.

These guys who fall down and can't get up are the worst.  Almost as bad as the women who pretend they honestly love their johns and just want to do this forever

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why you don't seem to understand that this is a big world with lots of different kinds of people--including some providers who have loving, supportive SO's and some providers who really do love their jobs. I know some of both. Interesting thing is, the ones I know with the good SO relationships also love their jobs. But I know some providers w/o SO's who love their jobs too. And I know some providers who hate what they do and try to act like they don't .. not very successfully.  I don't know many of those providers cuz I try to avoid them.

you won't just STFU. Oh. And go away. Thanks.

Please make no strings attached business no drama.Play safe and fun folks.

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I think you're right. Most of us are cheaters, liars, and there's a high percentage of f*cking nuts to go along with that. Why on earth would anyone think it could work? We all have so many strikes against us. Marriage is hard enough in the real world. I'd truly like to know the success rate of such attempts. Of the ones I've heard of, it's not very high, although exceptions surely exist. Who keeps stats like that?  

But I have a thought about why gentlemen keep falling. I can't speak for the ladies, although of the ones I've heard of, the gentlemen were wealthy. But for us guys it's the ultimate fantasy. Actually there are three stages to the ultimate fantasy. The first stage is the free session. That's already been discussed in another thread, but those of us who've experienced one or more, it's an incredible feeling when it goes there. The next step would be dating a provider. That incredible feeling takes on a more serious note, but the fantasy goes off the charts. And lastly, of course, marrying a provider would be the ultimate fantasy.  But look at some of the strikes you have to overcome. Can I still hobby? Are you still working? Will you sign a pre nup? Why did you f*ck her? No honey, I'm too tired.  

Here's the latest two stories I've heard. An old atf quit the hobby several years ago to live with a hobbyist. He bought her a new car, a new house, jewelry, furs, and took her on exotic trips. Well, for the first time in three years, I just saw her ad, and she's running a special. Not a good sign. Another hobbyist had met a wonderful lady in Germany, and was getting ready to move there to be with her. Only his atf provider here invited him to move in. He dumped the lady in Germany. Can you believe that decision? Why? The fantasy was much greater than the real thing is the only thing I can come up with. I'll bet two sessions with Rasha that the live in arrangement will not last.

Having read the endless thread I must say that Alex is representing what we all know about the best providers. They are our GF for an hour or two and we both move on. Great that she has an SO who is OK with her profession. Who cares if they are BB as long as we are protected with her. You are a refreshing voice Alex.

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Posted By: ragnar27
I can't imagine why these fellas honestly think that most of the women here really can leave this place with a guy they meet here.  The guy is a cheater already.  
   
 And the women are mostly professional liars.  I'm not saying that in a bad way ladies, but many of you have honed that skill far beyond the ladies who aren't hookers.  
   
 To they usual suspects, please don't babble again that you won't get married.  Maybe try reading the post and if you have something of interest that is answering the post, fine.

And I will say what I need to say to keep the money flowing. I have no intention of leaving "this place" with any john. Not because he is a cheater (some are single), but for other reasons.

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