I know there's a split between those here who genuinely believe that clients are paying for providers' "time and companionship only" (with sex being a lucky bonus) and those who think that's just a cute euphemism for "sex".
But I'm sure I'm not the only provider here who *has* actually had appointments with clients that never led to sex of any sort. Clients who wanted an escort to a work function, for instance. Or dates that just felt so natural that you ended up spending the whole time talking.
Providers: I'd love to hear about your best (or worst!) sexless dates. Hobbyists: Have you ever had a date like that, whether intentionally or by accident?
but they are not intentional, and I certainly don't pay for them. lol
Yes, I am aware that a lot of guys just want the "company" of a woman and are either incapable or just not even interested in actually having sex with her. I might poke fun at those guys, but honestly if a guy thinks he's getting his money's worth, who am it to complain about it?
Speaking strictly for myself, I do NOT pay for "time and companionship" i pay for NSA sex, and I make no bones about it.
Back to my "sexless" dates with hookers. I "date" a lot of hookers, and when I say "date" i mean exactly that, I call them "sex optional" dates. If i am on an OTC date with a hooker, civvie rules apply IMO. I don't expect "sex on demand" if I am not paying. Most of the dating I do with hookers does end up with us having sex, but there are times when I get nothing more than a peck on the cheek at the end of the evening. I never push for sex when on an OTC date with a pro, and I have been rewarded for my patience tenfold on occasion.
I no longer play the OTC/social game with providers much simply because I realized it usually is like asking a waitress to sit at the table and visit with me while I eat - it is possible that she will find me fascinating, we will hit it off and have a grand old time, but most likely she will only sit there because she expects a big tip in return. OTOH, as someone who tends to see the same lady for years, I have had provider friends and there are times we do stuff together, but it is not something I pursue (any more).
I have never paid a lady just to talk with her. There were times, mostly related to the deaths of someone near to me, when I saw someone and a fair amount of the date consisted of crying, hugging, talking. On those occasions, sex seemed like something of a challenge, or obligation, but I did rise to the challenge each time, if with a fair amount of support and assistance.
So I get the idea of just having some company, paying a pretty, sympathetic lady and getting something that you want and need that is not directly sexual in any way. Just not something I do.
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Yes, we all sometimes just want to spend time together, providers and clients both have emotional needs in certain circumstances. And just like GaGambler said, I follow the same rule of not to pay for the "time and companionship". I have had dates with providers where we went out and spent time together without having an actual session.
I had a playdate with a sensational gal that I already knew, but not from this hobby world. I was supposed to be back in town the day before our session but wound up flying in the morning of, and landed an hour or so before our date. Severe jet lag along with some nervous anxiety had our date being an hour long chat instead of a hot frenzied sex romp. She was so accommodating and understanding about everything. Of course she received her full donation. I plan on trying again with her one day.
but on a couple of past occasions I have had pretty limited action during a date due to the conversation which often consisted of listening to their problems. I tried to be polite and transition to more play with various degrees of success.
I am happy to chat to break the ice, then during the intermission but I am here primarily for NSA play. Being a gentleman doesn't always work out in this biz.
My faves are the perfect combination of Hot+Enthusiastic and who focus on your pleasure.
Or perhaps the word is naive!
I had a separate cheap rate at first for going out and I honestly thought guys would opt for that occasionally at least...nope.
Which is why it surprises me so much to see some ladies asking the full rate for the two hours it takes to go out to dinner.
Now, when a client books 2 hours or longer with me, we can spend time off the clock going to dinner or doing something else. That is really popular option. But nobody wanted to pay for time that didn't involve sex, at least not with me.
the other way just creeps me out. I am not a shrink, not a priest and sure as fk not a mentor. At least let me blow you lol.
Well okay fine. if you simply have to suck my dick to make the evening complete, I suppose I can suffer through it. lol
As long as you get me Vodka lol. Oh, and Beef Jerky. Must have Jerky.
Vodka and beef jerky. Yes, with enough of both, I can make an evening out of that. lol
You wouldn't happily take some guys money just to talk. 
Believe it or not, I would kinda feel bad lol... kinda. 
I sometimes don't bed my dates. I tend to book at least a week or so in advance and things have to be right for me to perform. So I will keep a date even if I know sex isn't happening as I am kinda broken because it is rude to cancel out on her after she set aside the time. Sometimes I feed her, sometimes we exchange massages, and sometimes we just talk but when I know it isn't happening I do other thing. Please note most of the time I do bed my paid date, but sometimes it is literally time and companionship only.
Usually it is the context of her Q&A session with me about her personal, civie business or p4p business life but not exclusively.
Theatre, sporting events, movies, etc have all been a part of it as well.
I enjoy them quite a bit actually.
1. The first was on a business trip to DC and I used the Yellow Pages to find an escort. She arrived, took the envelope then asked what I had in mind. I made an indecent proposal and she said she can't trade sex for money, that would be illegal. Sigh.
2. The next involved a gal I knew quite well. We started the session, but it was clear something was troubling her. I asked and she told me her father just passed away over in England, and she couldn't even attend the funeral. Then she wept an ocean as I held her tight. I left and told her I would be in touch again soon. She kept the donation. We are still very close 20 years hence.
3. The third time the gal drank a whole bottle of Champagne on New Year's Eve and passed out before we had a chance to have any fun. She made it up to me with interest about 4 years later.
4. The last is a bit unusual, and the only one that was planned. A gal I was scheduled to do an overnight with asked to spend the night before with me as a quasi-Platonic evening for reasons too convoluted to get onto here. So I said sure. We had dinner, chatted and did our computer stiff until late, then got into bed. Here's where it got interesting.. I was as horny as a bastard and I think she was too, but we just spooned, my raging hard on against her butt, but after a while we just drifted off to sleep. I wanted to honor the arrangement, and I guess she did too. I think it was a good call because that morning she rewarded me with the best blow job I ever have had in my life
When I first walked in, I was invited to sit on the couch for a little pre session conversation. The lady kept talking and talking. I hardly said a thing. I kept thinking things were going to heat up any minute. Usually, when a lady wants to go off the clock, I have the time to do so. However, this time I was limited. When she finally said let's get started, it had been an hour, and I told her I had to go. She really thought she'd blown it, but on my way out I placed the full donation on the mantle. She started crying saying that none of her other gentlemen friends would have left a donation without sex. I gave her a hug and kiss, and said goodbye. I was hoping to get an email saying my next session would be at a discount due to my generosity, but it never came. Ironically, life intervened, and I never went back to see her.
Another time, when I walked in and placed the donation, the lady sat me down on the couch and started crying. She cried for an hour telling me about her hobbyist boyfriend who had promised her everything, and skipped town. There was nothing to be done except listen. We were way over time when she said let's start the session. Because of her vulnerability, there's no way I could have sex with her. It simply would have been wrong. Later that evening, I did receive an email saying my next session was free. Funny but I went back to see her many times.
Another time I was at the doorstep of an atf when I got an emergency call, and had to leave. I knocked on her door, gave her a hug and a kiss, placed the donation on the dresser, and told her of my emergency. She was sad, but understood. It was one more hug, a kiss, and a quick goodbye. That atf made it up to me a hundred fold. After every session lunch was included, and much much more. The average hour session with her last three and a half, except for that one emergency 3 minute session.
Not greedy at all. In fact the first lady was fully expecting an hours worth of sex after her hour talk. Two hours for the price of one with a beautiful lady is generous in my book. The second lady did indeed give me that free session. In fact, her hour rate, which always lasts in the neighborhood of 90 minutes, hasn't changed once over all these years. Not just for me, but for every gentleman. How many of the ladies who used to charge the old rates, are now charging 500-1000. If I were going to throw down a greedy label, I'd send it in their direction. And of course, the last lady offers lunch+ after every session. Nothing but generosity there.
Your nut job comment is correct though. However, the fact that we're all on this site proves that we're all nut jobs.
As for the rest, if you'd included all that info in your OP I would not have commented.
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When I first read your post I was wondering WTF you were talking about. I figured you were posting in the wrong thread again, because your post certainly made no sense as a reply to mojojo's post.
If they are crazy hot then i would prefer sex but most are not but still pretty enough to be comfortable around. I just cant help but talk to the girl during the appointment for a good solid 20-30 min or so. I know how stressful this job can be for them and being a guy thats too nice i want them to be comfortable with me. Why cant i just talk to civvie girls then? Because civvies girls need you to invest a lot of time into them before they let you cuddle with them naked and talk about life. I dont know if its only me but cuddling in bed with a naked girl and talking about whatever is on our minds is close to the best thing ever.The therapeutic value is unmatched. Their skin is soooo soft.