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Being served a cup of piss is not a Golden Showerconfused_smile
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A golden shower includes getting pissed on at a minimum. Maybe just watching someone piss counts, if it's being done for you.

What you mention - being served a cup of piss that you didn't even watch the production of... well that's a slightly different level of piss play.

For me, watersports are another sensual exchange of body fluids. There are a couple other more common fluids I could mention (oh hell, spit and semen), and piss is the next step in that. Yes it's a little nasty to think about (although it really isn't as long as your date is well-hydrated). Surely you understand how something a little nasty could be hot?

Sounds like you aren't into your new date's kinks. We've all been there. You can either give it a go as a good sport or just never do it period. If you are a gentleman, you will either allow her to get her piss kinks out with people who enjoy them or you will simply move on.

But try not to yuck another person's yum. That's sophomoric.

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I'd like to hear (no emails) from both Doms and Subs on why there is an interest in GS.  I understand the humiliation part of it from both sides and I'm guessing for providers the anything for a buck aspect but I'd like to know what else is there that makes this act 'attractive' for lack of a better word.  

 
Here's some background on why I ask:

I met a nice woman, very attractive, late 30's, at a xmas party and we dated for about 5 weeks when we went away for a weekend last week as we couldn't get away for Valentine's day this weekend.  Romantic early dinner, watched the Walking Dead and then some romance afterwards.  Out of the blue she asked if I wanted a GS.  I did try it in the past with another gf, not into it but figuring we were going to bathe before bed anyway why not.  She said it turned her on. She goes into the bathroom and a few minutes comes out with a glass of pee.  What actually turns her on is watching someone drink it.  I politely declined, even a sip, and after a few minutes of back/forth she relented and we dropped the subject.   She is not a dom, she lets me pick where to go on dates and places to eat, etc.  I'm not breaking it off with her but now wonder about our compatibility and it does bring me back to my above question.  I don't want to discuss it with her as I really don't want to bring it up again.  I don't think this is the same as men being turned on by women eating a banana.

Piss play is NOT inherently degrading or humiliating! It's warm, wet, intimate... those three things are definitely sexy on their own. For me, piss is one of those things like feet, or latex are for some people - a fetish that is deeply satisfying to engage in and hardwired into my sexual interests. This is speaking as a provider and someone who practices kink in my personal life, by the way. I don't engage in kinks professionally that I'm not into personally.

 
There are a TON of different reasons why someone might be into GS.

Power play - making someone do something they don't particularly want to do can be hot for people into topping or domination (with consent, of course - the idea being that the submissive/bottom actually does want to do it but is too shy to admit to it, or is willing to do something that they don't have any interest in to please the top). There's an overlap of degradation and humiliation here if the bottom feels humiliated by the action, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a component. For example, the top could challenge the bottom to a test of will, and the bottom completes the task out of pride and a competitive nature or desire to please rather than humiliation.

Degradation or humiliation - some people like being grossed out by the things they're doing, whether they're being asked/ordered to or just doing so of their own accord. They like the feeling of being 'low', 'dirty', 'tainted', etc.

Loss of control - some people find loss of control hot! For example, being made to hold one's piss until they cannot anymore and are forced to wet themselves. Loss of control, not being able to make your own decisions, can feel very stress relieving, actually.  

Regression - this mostly pertains to ABDL (adult baby, diaper lover) fetishists. Age regression (acting like a younger age than you are) is also a stress relieving activity for a lot of people because it means you don't have to think about your adult responsibilities.  

Plain ol' fun - Like I said above, it's warm, it's wet, it's intimate - what's not to love? (For myself and other fetishists, that is).  

 
On to your situation:  

Just because she's laid back in her day to day interactions with you doesn't mean she's not a dominant! Just like the old trope about submissive men being high powered execs with a lot of responsibilities, dominant people enjoy exerting control over people in a sexual or kinky play setting but not necessarily in day to day life.  

I know you mentioned that you didn't want to discuss it with her, but I think you should bring it up to reiterate that you're uninterested in kink so that everything's on the table. If it's a dealbreaker for her for you not to be into this kind of play, you two will save a lot of time and heartbreak by talking about it now.

Good luck!

Posted By: joseph2469
I'd like to hear (no emails) from both Doms and Subs on why there is an interest in GS.  I understand the humiliation part of it from both sides and I'm guessing for providers the anything for a buck aspect but I'd like to know what else is there that makes this act 'attractive' for lack of a better word.    
   
   
 Here's some background on why I ask:  
   
 I met a nice woman, very attractive, late 30's, at a xmas party and we dated for about 5 weeks when we went away for a weekend last week as we couldn't get away for Valentine's day this weekend.  Romantic early dinner, watched the Walking Dead and then some romance afterwards.  Out of the blue she asked if I wanted a GS.  I did try it in the past with another gf, not into it but figuring we were going to bathe before bed anyway why not.  She said it turned her on. She goes into the bathroom and a few minutes comes out with a glass of pee.  What actually turns her on is watching someone drink it.  I politely declined, even a sip, and after a few minutes of back/forth she relented and we dropped the subject.   She is not a dom, she lets me pick where to go on dates and places to eat, etc.  I'm not breaking it off with her but now wonder about our compatibility and it does bring me back to my above question.  I don't want to discuss it with her as I really don't want to bring it up again.  I don't think this is the same as men being turned on by women eating a banana.  

For me, it's the warm tingly feel of the urine on my body, and the scent and taste are also quite arousing.

I'm more of a receiver than giver, but one gal I give to just gets in ecstasy over it and that thrills me too.

But I can see where people can be squeamish over it, and that's cool.

That smell that most people find objectionable is ammonia.  

I have heard tale that Mahatma Gandhi drank a glass of his own urine every morning for his health.

Urine contains bacteria.  I can't speak to Gandhi's habits, but I'll take doctors advice over his habits any day.

Yes, it is not sterile...another thing to keep in mind is any medications a person is taking because that will be in there as well.

Posted By: Waterclone
Urine contains bacteria.  I can't speak to Gandhi's habits, but I'll take doctors advice over his habits any day.

But I thought I'd share my situation and why I'm personally into it.  

I started out thinking that piss play was really kind of gross.  Honestly. I couldn't understand it at all, and have a play partner who really enjoys it a lot.  Well, he was so into it that it really made me rethink the whole thing.  I'd tried it and loved it.  I jumped the judgment gun and played my judgery-doo too quickly.  Piss play is warm and wet. It's intimate. And for me personally, it's really about letting go.  Literally because I'm pissing, but figuratively because I'm letting go of societal training and preconceived notions.  We are trained that we're only supposed to piss in certain places, and on a person in the bedroom/wherever you play is not where we're supposed to go.

It was wonderful for a while.  Then, soon after I started providing, I got piss shy.  I couldn't identify why, but it happened. Thank goodness that's not the case any more, and with tips from several people in this board, including Robin and Mrfisher, I'm back in action.  I really enjoy giving, and would be really open to receiving as well.  

There's also a really fun play element to it, at least for me.  Playing in it, playing with the other person covered in piss, being covered in piss together.  It's sexy.  

Now, while I was on the piss-shy wagon, i did do a lot of play involving piss, like having people drink it in very creative ways. It's definitely a turn-on for me, and part of that has to do with dominance; another part has to do with pure hedonism. It's a guilty pleasure, and for others it's a guilty pleasure that they know is taboo as well.  Being able to see someone fully enjoy themselves partaking in a culturally taboo thing like piss-drinking and piss-play is just so lush and fulfilling.  

Being that I'm kinky in my personal life as well and feel that it's an engrained part of my sexuality, I'd do your lady the service of telling her that you're not into kink.  It's not fair to either of you to waste time; being sexually incompatible is really tough and quickly builds resentment.  Kink for her might be one of those things she can't compromise, and she needs to be made aware of your feelings about it.  

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you luck!

A golden shower includes getting pissed on at a minimum. Maybe just watching someone piss counts, if it's being done for you.

What you mention - being served a cup of piss that you didn't even watch the production of... well that's a slightly different level of piss play.

For me, watersports are another sensual exchange of body fluids. There are a couple other more common fluids I could mention (oh hell, spit and semen), and piss is the next step in that. Yes it's a little nasty to think about (although it really isn't as long as your date is well-hydrated). Surely you understand how something a little nasty could be hot?

Sounds like you aren't into your new date's kinks. We've all been there. You can either give it a go as a good sport or just never do it period. If you are a gentleman, you will either allow her to get her piss kinks out with people who enjoy them or you will simply move on.

But try not to yuck another person's yum. That's sophomoric.

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Before I got divorced my ex and I engaged in this activity, and I have to say it was just plain fun.  When we had a night to ourselves we'd get plenty of beer and start drinking and fooling around.  By the 6th or 7th beer pee turns from yellow to basically clear hot water.  It was probably the most intimate and risque thing we ever did.  It's like being with a squirter but a lot more liquid......fun stuff!!

G/S are totally natural & sterile.

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y ATF special request is golden & brown showers...
What a surprise if she had of ask you to shared some brownies!
...rare -impossible to find...
You got a special woman don't blow it...then again one person's trash is another person's gold!

Posted By: Madame Patricia
G/S are totally natural & sterile.

and it was really sexy & exciting. That rush & mix of feeling right before I let go to pee on him was very exhilarating and hard to describe. I enjoyed it much more then I expected.

I am really now curious about receiving my first golden shower. I think if done by the right Dom, in the right way (like spanked until my ass is red, then dragged to the shower by my hair, and he or she pisses on my ass to mark their territory and further humiliate me.....

xoxo Helena

We had a long talk about what about this fetish turns him on.  He fully embodies or loves to worship the full female being, EVERY aspect of her (including her fluids).  It is not at all about humiliation and it is 100% about worship.  I feel so esteemed and cherished in how he fancies me.  :)

The best discussion I've seen thanks to RA and the other ladies.  The only thing in my head when doing it is the pure fun and visual of it, not a thought of domination/humiliation or the other reasons.  Know a provider who receives it anywhere, but cannot provide it back to me.  Have another provider I see fairly often and she avoids the subject when I bring it up, even when it was obvious I prepared the bed and floor with protection.  She hinted she might agree to give in a tub; doubt she will receive.  Lucky the couples that enjoy it.

I just had my first GS.  It was fun making my friend happy.  Seeing the big smile on his face.  I agreed to my first GS because we talked and agreed that the GS would be done in a fun sexual way, not in a degrading way.    

I love being a sub.  I have had sub play where my ATF was going to give me a shower but decided not to.  In this case, the GS was to be part of the submission/humiliation play.

I have another friend who I see regularly. He likes me to use my leather horse whip on him.  He also likes to do all the regular stuff.  The whipping is just part of our time together.  It has noting to do with being a sub or a dom.  The man just likes to have his ass whipped.

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Love the sensual aspect of GS play.  Love to receive but rso hard to find providers who truely enjoy it.  Would also love to enjoy giving them in a sexual erotic way.

I've not read all the responses, but GS does not have to be humiliating (it can be given in that way).  

For me, it increases intimacy between two people- it's from inside a woman and now I am wearing it, etc. In a way, I am saying "others might be squeamish about this, but I will wear it for you because it is from you. It is not gross, it is a part of you, now a part of me."

For some Dommes, it is a part of marking their territory, marking their sub as their own.

Finally, it's just a great, plain old sensual sensation. It is wonderfully warm and slippery, and there is no better j/o lube than Golden Nectar.

Your new woman wanted to give you a Golden Cocktail, not a Golden Shower. In that respect, she did not really properly explain to you what she wanted to do. Better communication was needed. Many times different terms mean different things to different people.

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