That is what charging by implication would lead to. Awkward as hell for everyone. I think she just lost track of time due to the stuff we were talking about. I wasn't going to suggest she leave when she is lying there naked beside me, and by all impressions enjoying herself. I could see that being super insulting.
Met a new provider a few weeks ago. The only 10 I have seen in this business. The kind of looks that would have men of all ages stumbling over their words. From what I could tell, the session went really well. She stayed at least an hour over time, with no pressure at all to do so. Lots of open discussion about "next time" and so on. I could sense nothing going bad.
She reached out to me afterwards, and a few times since then. Asking when we will meet the next time has been part of the exchanges. I only hobby when I travel, so I won't be very frequent. I told her I intend to repeat and will follow through on that. She seems quite careful in client selection. Sent me some quite blunt e mails before the meeting about not negotiating rates as it ruins the mood. I had no intention of doing that. Left me with the impression that others must have tried.
I asked her if she would white list me. Answer was yes. She sent me an unsolicited e mail saying it was done and it wasn't. Promised to get it done a couple more times and it has never happened. I have since dropped the subject.
I still have not picked up any bad vibes or reason to think she thinks I am not safe or a problem of some kind. She is a top 10 provider in an extremely competitive market, but has under 25 reviews. She just started this year. From my experience she deserves that ranking.
Anyway, any thoughts on why this is going on? Why the reluctance to white list when she tells me she will do it? Again, I have chosen to stop asking so that I don't cross some discomfort line. Maybe I already have for all I know.
She sent you MULTIPLE pre-emptive emails telling you not to negotiate?
Oh...I believe you.
Others here that are jaded wont, but I do. LOL
Haven't gotten any of those "pre-negotiation warning" emails yet, but in time, I am sure I never will. 
The moral of this story is to get a whitelist, make sure you haggle first. LOL
That was a poorly written section by me. Lots of emails, but only one re negotiation. Another point - I have several existing referrals.
Or was your point about referrals telling us you negotiated with those and they ratted you out to this girl?
Just for the record, that has never, ever happened to me. Ever. And I have negotiated over 100 sessions in my life, easy.
Not one ever brought it up beforehand.
I cant say you are wrong, I just find it incredible bizarre she would do that.
Just for the record, that has never, ever happened to me. Ever. And I have negotiated over 100 sessions in my life, easy.
Not one ever brought it up beforehand.
I cant say you are wrong, I just find it incredible bizarre she would do that.
I have not negotiated with anyone on my white list. I have some regulars who see me at a substantial discount, but not from anyone who has whitelisted me.
Same lies and BS goes on all over the hobby... My client list overlaps with A LOT of ladies in my area and with the traveling ladies as well, but the same guys will write a review for another lady and not write one for me. Do they think I am horrible??? Of course not, I see them all the time and talk to quite often between sessions! After being in the hobby for a few years, some things you have let go and say it just is what it is.
Shut up about it, see another chick, and have her whitelist you. Providers can be picky about who they whitelist and if they whitelist. Overall whitelist referrals won't get you that far in screening with most girls, but to each his own.
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I would consider it quite unprofessional for some woman to bug me about writing her a review, and what's good for the goose..,..
1) Until I did it once, I thought it would be a tedious process which it is not. She may not know that.
2) She may want to keep you to herself, sexy...it does happen after all she gave you extra time off the books.
3) She may just have not gotten around to it.
4) It may be true that she has not learned how to set limits in her dating schedule and then immaturely resents you for it even if she thinks that you are a nice guy.
AS FOR ME, when I started on this site, I thought white list was for my ATFs and did not want to cheapen that experience for myself or the men that I feel have earned that. I also did not want to do it after one meeting. Ladies, men can pull off a one date romance and respectfulness but can they actually keep that up? DNA just does not seem 100% in all men when it comes to this so I reserved my white list for those wonderful men.
Later into the hobby, I realized that it is less extreme list...it is about safety. Was he a nice guy in session-arrived and left on time, behaved as a gentleman, was clean (essential), paid as agreed and stuck to the time without the awful attempt of bargaining or asking "menu" questions (personal pet peeve and a ridiculous breech of security), reasonable amount of communication before and after the date.
So, send her one of these:
Why say you will give a white list if you have no intention of doing it?
I've been lucky to have top hobbyists that understand that the importance and weight true reviews make in this industry...
she may be top 10..looks only go so far
the brain is a sexy.organ too
wink..a winning combo with skills is legit..happy hobbying
sincerely,
lovely Lorena DE leon
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I tried to white list a person once. and for more than a few days, it wouldnt show on his profile. I deleted the referral and added it again. Eventually it did show. TER is a bit slow on that matter maybe? If u have other white list referrals it's best to let it go. Assume she did it and move on.
I've had the same thing happen. Don't worry about it. See her again, discuss the WL and then write a review. Some girls don't know how to WL but won't admit it except in person. In that case you have to send them instructions. Other girls only WL if you've reviewed them. Still other girls only WL if they get a 9/9 or higher rating from you on TER. Worst case she's lying.
What is worth more than a WL is another hot session and perhaps a P411 referral.
Focus on her and not on the WL.
It's a distraction and less valuable than good chemo with a genuine 10 who will treat you well and give an email referral upon request after future sessions.
Focus on what you are here for: Hot sex and good times.
Ya, I am seeing her again no matter what happens with the WL. This girl is pretty rare - smoking hot, performance that never stops, and really interesting at the same time. I'd be nuts not to repeat.
Ok.. from your post you mentioned that you saw the provider one time. She asked you when you are going to see her again, and you said that you intend to and plan on following through with it.
Typically, it's kinda rare of the provider to whitelist you on after only one session, unless she is reference friendly. Some providers have a set policy that requires the guy to visit at least two times and write a review. Maybe, she wants you to see her again before she would whitelist you.
She reached out to me afterwards, and a few times since then. Asking when we will meet the next time has been part of the exchanges. I only hobby when I travel, so I won't be very frequent. I told her I intend to repeat and will follow through on that. She seems quite careful in client selection. Sent me some quite blunt e mails before the meeting about not negotiating rates as it ruins the mood. I had no intention of doing that. Left me with the impression that others must have tried.
I asked her if she would white list me. Answer was yes. She sent me an unsolicited e mail saying it was done and it wasn't. Promised to get it done a couple more times and it has never happened. I have since dropped the subject.
I still have not picked up any bad vibes or reason to think she thinks I am not safe or a problem of some kind. She is a top 10 provider in an extremely competitive market, but has under 25 reviews. She just started this year. From my experience she deserves that ranking.
Anyway, any thoughts on why this is going on? Why the reluctance to white list when she tells me she will do it? Again, I have chosen to stop asking so that I don't cross some discomfort line. Maybe I already have for all I know.
your next appointment when she started emailing you after you had seen her.
You do mention she sent more than one email inquiring when you would be coming back and setting an appt.
Maybe she figured since you have not booked another appt she is not going to whitelist you.
But she is not telling you this.She just keeps saying she will but yet no whitelist.
Did you review her?
Sounds like she just said she would to appease you but since you have not booked an appt she has no incentive to whitelist.
Not saying this is cool to do.Maybe she does not want to tell you No on the whitelist since she is still holding out on hope you will book another appt.Maybe she does not know how to whitelist a guy.
We are all speculating since we are not the provider in question we have no idea what is in her head
I did review her after the second whitelist request. She was happy with the review, and that is when I made the last inquiry, and then dropped it.
Of everything I have heard on his thread, the most plausible is that she does not know how to whitelist. That would explain the unsolicited e mail saying she did it.
As far as the next booking goes, I don't live in her city, and currently have no plans to return in the near term. So I am not jerking her around by telling her I will repeat and then not following through. As others have said, I will not let this whitelist thing impact anything in the future with her. I don't intend to bring it up again, no matter how many times we meet.
Maybe it is an oversight on her part?