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OK she didn't say she set a boundary and he crossed it. But if she's not comfortable, move on.
Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 706 reads
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My advice to her is to do just what she did. Talk about it, question it, understand it.

There may be a chance that she felt it was abnormal behavior, but learn otherwise. And since it isn't, it may not be so bad thinking about it.

I also suggest she market herself in such a way that she is not comfortable with fantasy, and dirty talk isn't something she offers. Which is OK. But to avoid it, she has to market that. One of my atf's talks dirty like that all the time. And I'm OK with it. But I also market myself that way.

When guys Google the OP's stage name, or search her discussion board input, they won't find that she is uncomfortable with this, since it is under an alias. Which is fine too, however that's another way to weed out guys who are into that stuff.

But she did ask what people thought, why hinder the responses? Maybe it will help her. And maybe she won't be as creeped out next time it happens out of the blue, because she found out it was not that abnormal. Maybe the initial Spidey feeling she got the first time, that may have ruined her experience, won't ruin the next one so much.

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someCuteChic2274 reads

I saw a guy for the second time today, who wanted me to share stories of my sex life, both my "work" and professional. He'd say in response to a story I shared that I'm "such a naughty girl", and that I "really know how to have fun" and that I ""must drive those guys wild".
Apparently it turns him on, gets him off... I don't know, but it completely turns me off. I've already blocked him at this point so that's the end of that but it made me curious. What could be the appeal of that for a guy? And why would he think it would be appealing for me?
I'm there in the flesh, with you, and you want to talk about other guys that I'm with? Seems odd...

L.Guapo1098 reads

The guy clearly gets off imagining you as very slutty.  Not my kink but we all have them.   It's not as if he's into brown showers or cutting. I'm sure you have your kinks, too.  And I'm sure someone out there finds your kinks weird, disgusting or just not sexy.
It just amazes me how people in this game judge others about their sexual preferences.
Finally, it's your job to get him off, so whether it's appealing for you or not is irrelevant

someCuteChic1031 reads

I think I get to judge others sexuality when I'm expected to deal with it, and I cut him off so I guess that makes me both jury and judge :D

L.Guapo998 reads

The point is being judgmental in this game is just silly.  And considering what some girls get asked to do, being asked to make stuff up about sexual encounters ain't so bad.

Bob.Sugar887 reads

Isn't that what the reviews are for?   ;)

Posted By: L.Guapo
The point is being judgmental in this game is just silly.  And considering what some girls get asked to do, being asked to make stuff up about sexual encounters ain't so bad.

someCuteChic842 reads

Silliness is subjective isn't it, as is determining what is and "ain't so bad". It was bad enough to turn me off, and make me not want to see him again. And I'd say that's all that really matters in that case, agreed? :)

I totally get that he wants to imagine me as a slut, that's fine. I'm an escort.. I'd say I fit that mold pretty well without needing to share stories lol

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Bob.Sugar813 reads

I have no interest in paying to hear those stories...but I guess you found a guy who does want to pay someone to tell the stories.

Shit...I was chatting with my sb the other day about another gal pal that wanted to share her story of the guy that wanted to only drink urine...from a cup.  Not exactly my cup of tea, or urine...but there are so many stories of what guys want to do with the girls I just don't see why any hooker would be offended when a guy wants them to tell them a story.

And to make up some personal shit...what is the big deal?  Guys babble complete fabrication to the gals about themselves, so why not do the same for some guy who is willing to pay you to do so?

As for judging what someone else gets off on...not this john.  

Posted By: someCuteChic
Silliness is subjective isn't it, as is determine what is and "ain't so bad". It was bad enough to turn me off, and make me not want to see him again. And I'd say that's all that really matters in that case, agreed? :)  
   
 I totally get that he wants to imagine me as a slut, that's fine. I'm an escort.. I'd say I fit that mold pretty well without needing to share stories lol

Why don't you let us be the judge of whether or not you fit the mold?  Tell us some stories from your sex life and we can all vote on it.  I'm kidding of course but don't ever be surprised at what may or may not turn guys on.  We're fucking weird.  

Also, by cutting this guy off you've shut down a potential lucrative money making enterprise.  If I were you I'd offer to sell him stories on a monthly basis.  Then all you have to do is cut and paste from the Erotic Literature board or Penthouse Letters and email.  Bam, you're both happy....Just a thought.

Even though you personally feel it is nothing on the grand scale of sexual stuff. She does not see him as an income stream, she sees him as a problem and does not want to deal with it. You see hookers really don't have to do everything for everyone, we can pick and choose our sex acts, and  our johns.

Enough for her to quit seeing him. His request in and of itself is pretty tame, at least for most, however it got on her last nerve and she is asking the board what we think.

I did not take it as her being judgmental, just relaying an incident that bothered her.

My advice to her is to do just what she did. Talk about it, question it, understand it.

There may be a chance that she felt it was abnormal behavior, but learn otherwise. And since it isn't, it may not be so bad thinking about it.

I also suggest she market herself in such a way that she is not comfortable with fantasy, and dirty talk isn't something she offers. Which is OK. But to avoid it, she has to market that. One of my atf's talks dirty like that all the time. And I'm OK with it. But I also market myself that way.

When guys Google the OP's stage name, or search her discussion board input, they won't find that she is uncomfortable with this, since it is under an alias. Which is fine too, however that's another way to weed out guys who are into that stuff.

But she did ask what people thought, why hinder the responses? Maybe it will help her. And maybe she won't be as creeped out next time it happens out of the blue, because she found out it was not that abnormal. Maybe the initial Spidey feeling she got the first time, that may have ruined her experience, won't ruin the next one so much.

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A new boundary so to speak. I do agree that marketing helps attract the type you want to be with not withstanding the trickle of outliers which are easy enough to get rid of without much hurting the bottom line.

Then again there are just some things that are just not going to be alright...and it is best to avoid the situation. Which is what she is doing by not seeing him again.  

I tell you in all the time I have been doing this I have found this a very rare thing, but then again I market myself so as not to attract those that like that shit. I prefer a more vanilla approach at work. So your advice about marketing is good.

Talking to guys about sex just isn't an issue to me, but I've been doing that naturally for a long time. Pulling out a strap on and wailing away on a guy's ass - well, I refer elsewhere.

But that's amazing thing. Knowing respectable ladies that I trust are really into certain stuff has helped me keep the bridge unsinged, and has also gotten me some referrals.

But I am for doing what you're comfortable with. Also knowing others that are comfortable with something and referring has built some good rapport too.

But no - if someone is a little freaked out, better to close that door and leave herself open to clients who will like what she does naturally for sure.

I do know that over time I have become more comfortable with certain things because I became more knowledgeable. But certain things, like BDSM and S&M may never become part of my "thing". I get it.

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it makes her feel weird.

we all enjoy different things.

some ladies may enjoy giving brown showers but cannot stand to dfk.
some ladies may like dirty talk and others laugh when they try to do it...

we are all different.

thankfully we have reviews that can help paint a pretty decent picture of us. we are being paid to be a what we advertise. we aren't being paid to be exactly what the guy wants, all of the time. :)
xo

U could make stories for him. And not share ur actual life. Or modify them a bit for ur personal safety. But in my opinion that's nothing different than reading erotica, except he is paying u.  

Send him my way... I have plenty of stories and my bank account can always use a replenishment :-)

Posted By: someCuteChic
I think I get to judge others sexuality when I'm expected to deal with it, and I cut him off so I guess that makes me both jury and judge :D

I never want to know what the other guy did, what position, for how long, etc. Unless it is something that you like and it would enhance our session (even then you have to be careful how you phrase it to me). If he truly gets off on hearing other people's sessions, he should just go buy erotic novels.  It would definitely save him a lot of money. LOL...

Oh shit, isn't that what VIP reviews are like>>>opps...

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It may have been a way for him to figure out your menu or limits without asking you directly.

It doesn't seem hugely different from a cuckold fantasy, something that is kind of popular once you leave the realm of vanilla. If you aren't comfortable with it, obviously catering to it isn't a good thing for you, but in the scheme of things, it seems far from weird.

A girl I see often, that I have known for a long time in this biz, either calls me or emails me with her most recent date and gives me the sexual and other details. I actually love it. It's fkin hot, she gets off knowing it gets me off and it provides quite a different view of p4p.

The first time she told me, she just offered it up because she did some shit sexually witha dude for the first time (rimming) and wanted my take, since we are buds.

She told me the story, realized I liked it and wasn't jeoulous of it, and she was surprised by that reaction soI told her she could tell me anytime what she does with other guys and she took me up on it! And has been doing so for years on end!

So I do see the appeal but I wouldn't harrass the girl to tell me. Only if she wants. It's a neat little thing we share and she knows I will keep it between just me and her.

Bob.Sugar737 reads

I think that the gal that tells you that shit then turns around and calls me to tell me that she told you and YOU got off on it  LOL

Hey...whatever works  ;)

Posted By: JackDunphy
A girl I see often, that I have known for a long time in this biz, either calls me or emails me with her most recent date and gives me the sexual and other details. I actually love it. It's fkin hot, she gets off knowing it gets me off and it provides quite a different view of p4p.  
   
 The first time she told me, she just offered it up because she did some shit sexually witha dude for the first time (rimming) and wanted my take, since we are buds.  
   
 She told me the story, realized I liked it and wasn't jeoulous of it, and she was surprised by that reaction soI told her she could tell me anytime what she does with other guys and she took me up on it! And has been doing so for years on end!  
   
 So I do see the appeal but I wouldn't harrass the girl to tell me. Only if she wants. It's a neat little thing we share and she knows I will keep it between just me and her.

Is it possible this hooker has been lying to me all these years?

 I better shut up now. She knows I am JD, she reads these boards and I don't want to fk up that negotiated deal I have with her. LOL

I'm a dick, but I'm no dummy! :D

Bob.Sugar716 reads

And in his lengthy OP he brought up a few things that the "girls" were telling him about shit guys did to them  LOL

So one of the stories was quite interesting as I know the gal he was referring to...but the story was just a tad off.  I never hung her from the ceiling in a hogtie  LOL    That I only did with other gals while in a room designed for suspension bondage.

I guess some guys just can't handle the truth  ;)

Bob.Sugar782 reads

I trust you aren't asking which gal that I hogtied?  Let alone which ones I left dangling from the ceiling beams?

You want to guess who the moron was who had to vent...he also bitched that guys don't wash their asses either.  Like I give a shit about that....pun intended!

About a friend from work coming to see me. He never did make the appointment - but during OUR appointments the guy just loved making stories up about him and his friend with a big dick DPing me.

I finally realized after quite a few dates that it was a fantasy of his to help him get off. That's when I learned to just play along and heighten it for them (usually they don't need me to lol.)

Sometimes when I'm alone with no porn available, lol, I have thought of my crushes having sex with other women in front of me. Would I do that in real life? Not outside of P4P, but I definitely get how the fantasy can get someone else off.

But shit, if I would have dumped the guy for that reason, I would have been out a long time regular who literally came back 3x/week for 2 hours. I have never had a guy see me that much since. So yeah, pass him to me please lmao

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You, I, and anyone else can see whomever they want to see. There are people I rejected long ago that I would see in a heart beat today because other ladies took the time to tell their stories to me, and were comfortable with those situations.

Understanding something does help alleviate fear. A lot of times the fear and rejection is due to fear of the unknown.

So again-telling my story.

Hopefully the dudes who do some research on Courtney Ova will feel comfortable with me and pay me 400/hr to have me tell them mu sex life. Lol. I'm totally fine with that.

(P.S. that guy I was talking about - literally 10 minutes of the 2 hours, 20 minutes tops - was anything sex related. And he only brought it up while we were fucking. So yeah. Lol

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Sometimes, when the session fun is over, there's a few minutes left. Of course, some of the ladies kick your ass outta there right then. But the good ones let you take your full time. It goes without saying that the great ones, your atfs, tend to go over the session time. With that extra time, whichever it is, there comes a moment, or several moments for pillow talk. The pillow talk can go in all kinds of different directions. I always let it go where it goes. Occasionally, if the connection is good, the pillow talk goes in the direction of sex life, be they hobby stories, real life stories, or fantasies someone wants fulfilled. I could create a best selling book with some of the wild and crazy stories I've heard, and told. Of course I don't because I want to treat those stories as confidential. But they're fun. They're interesting. They're crazy. They're unbelievable. Besides, isn't that why these forums are so popular? We're here to share stories. When someone is asking my opinion in a forum, I get an average number of hits. When I'm relating a sex story, my hits double, and even triple if it's a mini review. People love sex stories. It creates for a great session ending. To be honest, those are the ladies I return to see over and over again. Sex yes, but that trust is an important aspect of a great hobby relationship.  

But you have to be very careful. Some ladies and gentlemen can't really handle those stories. It's totally crazy because this is the hobby for Christ's sake, but some people get extremely jealous when hearing those stories. The clients want the ladies all to themselves, and the ladies only want the clients to see them alone, and no one else. Are you kidding me? This is the fucking hobby. We're all fucking thousands of people. Who cares who sees some cute chick? And tells about it.

ottolbrock558 reads

One time I meet with a provider that confused with with a client who she had seen wth his weft as a couple. Once we cleared the confusion up I did find my mind wondering and getting a little turned on about hearing, by mistake, about another experience she had.

Justin_Beaver661 reads

Why he wants to hear that shit? Who knows. When I see a lady I show up. We talk and say hi. Have a few laughs. Then we fuck and I thank her for a great time. And off I go. If I like her I see her again and we repeat everything I said initially again.  

Some of these dudes that do this have issues.

Bob.Sugar689 reads

I'm sure you've got some shit that you like done...and maybe some other guy would think that's weird.

Some guys get off on voyeurism.  Sounds like the dude the OP is talking about would be considered a voyeur.  

You know quite a few gals that listen to "us" babble about this and that...frankly it's just what it is.

I hear from many gals some very entertaining stories.  I know you have heard them as well.

To judge what is "normal" when it comes to fantasy...that seems to be a problem here in HookerLand.  What some guy finds not to his liking makes the dude who does like whatever a weirdo.  Not buying it Justin!

Posted By: Justin_Beaver
Why he wants to hear that shit? Who knows. When I see a lady I show up. We talk and say hi. Have a few laughs. Then we fuck and I thank her for a great time. And off I go. If I like her I see her again and we repeat everything I said initially again.  
   
 Some of these dudes that do this have issues.

Justin_Beaver669 reads

I agree with you about the fact that here in Fantasy Fuck Land we all have our "kinks" and things we like. I guess its all how you present it and pursue it. If you come off as creepy as shit, the lady probably won't have too much fun entertaining your fantasy.  

It all depends on the guy, and the lady. There has to be mutual trust and comfort for both parties to play along.

It sounds like he may just be a bit voyeristic (in the general sense, not necessarily the clinical sense, but who knows) and this may be one way for him to get a vicarious thrill to rev him up for the real thing. The appeal is most likely imagining / fantasizing about you having sex with these guys. Most guys would be turned on by a beautiful women talking about sexual acts they engage in (unless the man feels the woman is "his", at which point the reaction tends to be significantly different.) If your guy is very voyeristic he may even imagine himself watching or he may just enjoy hearing the "blow by blow" (excuse the bad pun). The important thing is that it made you uncomfortable and if you communicated that to him and he continued to ask for details then he is no longer respecting your boundaries. If you didn't communicate that to him you may want to let him know ( if he is an otherwise good client). If it is just general curiosity /voyerism, then he should be able to stop asking you pretty easily. If it is closer to a paraphilia then he wont be able to drop it and he will either self-select out or you can block him. But you need to do what makes you feel comfortable and safe.

Best Wishes
WKS

Posted By: someCuteChic
I saw a guy for the second time today, who wanted me to share stories of my sex life, both my "work" and professional. He'd say in response to a story I shared that I'm "such a naughty girl", and that I "really know how to have fun" and that I ""must drive those guys wild".  
 Apparently it turns him on, gets him off... I don't know, but it completely turns me off. I've already blocked him at this point so that's the end of that but it made me curious. What could be the appeal of that for a guy? And why would he think it would be appealing for me?  
 I'm there in the flesh, with you, and you want to talk about other guys that I'm with? Seems odd...

enjoys sex so much that she craves it with him too.  He wants to make you a play thing, not a person who might judge him the way he judges himself. So don't take it personally or be offended, just take the money.  :-)

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My wife loves to hear about me bedding my paid dates, it turns her on she goes as far as to reenact them. She also likes to watch me with others. But that doesn't usually last as she gets too turned on and jumps in.  

I will be honest erotic stories turns me on. It is the easiest way to get me hard given I lost some sensation. There is a reason about every porn mag has a erotic story section like Penthouse letters. It is an extremely common fetish among both genders. A great many are turned on by tells of sex of ones partner. It builds anticipation if nothing else.

But if it makes you uncomfortable you are right to stop it. You have a right to refuse anything that makes you uncomfortable even if it isn't a rare request. I would put it on your site erotic talk isn't your thing as it isn't rare though to avoid such unpleasantness as having to block guys and him all kinds of confused as to why.

Way long ago I saw a young gal with a very prepubescent body.

We got to know each other fairly well, so she opened up to me about her problem of guys who would see her to fulfill there pedophile wants with her.   Some guys even wanted her to dress up like an old fashioned 8 year old girl would be depicted in old movies, for example.  Father/daughter incest was also a fantasy asked for often.

At first she was pretty disgusted with these requests and refused them but decided to indulge them  because she figured that by giving these creeps an outlet for their fantasies, she was hopefully preventing them from going after the real thing which even if she saved one kid would be all worth it.  She was also honest enough to tell me that the dough (up to $1K!) helped.

But it made her feel dreadful, nonetheless.    She also really appreciated the straight GFE clients like myself because then she could enjoy the sex.  She would only charge me about $500 for an overnight.  (This was around 1990.)

I'll bet there are even more deviant kinks out there.

They live vicariously through our 'appetites' in addition to creating their own scenarios with us.  
It's like narrating porn to them. Just this time he 'knows' the porn star personally.  

If it's too personal make something up.  

Posted By: someCuteChic
I saw a guy for the second time today, who wanted me to share stories of my sex life, both my "work" and professional. He'd say in response to a story I shared that I'm "such a naughty girl", and that I "really know how to have fun" and that I ""must drive those guys wild".  
 Apparently it turns him on, gets him off... I don't know, but it completely turns me off. I've already blocked him at this point so that's the end of that but it made me curious. What could be the appeal of that for a guy? And why would he think it would be appealing for me?  
 I'm there in the flesh, with you, and you want to talk about other guys that I'm with? Seems odd...

i don't mind sharing naughty stories...i've had a few friends that like to hear...

Posted By: someCuteChic

 I'm there in the flesh, with you, and you want to talk about other guys that I'm with? Seems odd...
Well, it kinda happened the other way around for me.

A favorite lady casually mentioned that she had handcuffed another client and used a strap-on with him.  
She is an elegant sort of lady, rather submissive with me, and the image seemed incongruous -- and way outside what I want to explore for myself.  I guess she may have been gently probing my kink landscape for future reference; she's really good at that, at finding out what I can't easily express.  No, I didn't take up the topic.

Later on, as I was wrapped around her and she around me, holding her tight, thrusting away, the picture gave me an unexpected tingly boost.  

So I have to admit that a kink that is emphatically not mine can nevertheless trigger a nice sexual jolt.  It was a surprise at the time.  

It's all unreasonable, unreasoning, and uncontrolled.  I have no clue whatsoever about how or why that works, and only inklings about when or what or who.  

What could be the appeal?  How would he, or we, know that?  

Why would he think it appealing for you?  Well, he couldn't imagine (probably) why it was appealing for himself, only that it was.  All a mystery.  Why wouldn't he imagine, or project, or hope, that you were in on the mystery?  And for most of us, most of the time, imagination is more powerful than physics ... and provides the binding power for chemistry.  

Until you communicated, in that gentle but clear fashion known to those skilled in the Art.  Beyond that point he was just a boor

I don't talk about my personal sex life with any client, because it's none of their concern. Ive actually had to tell some guys to stop asking me about my persona life because there are boundaries I'm not crossing and inviting a stranger into my personal life is one of them. My exes and lovers would not appreciate me telling a client about our sex lives together.

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