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The Boston Globe Gets in on SW Conversation
ThatsAllSheWrote 1916 reads
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I haven't been around long enough to comment on the difference between providing in the 80's vs the Internet age, but I am curious if anyone here can enlighten me.  I read this article on The Boston Globe's website this morning and kind of feel like they are missing the target by a long shot.  The article is titled "Internet has driven sex industry deep into shadows"  With the eye-catching first line reading "This hardly seems possible, but being a prostitute now is even more awful than it used to be."  What do you think?

they definately missed the boat and I would guess unless the person writing the story was a hooker how the fuck do they know?????
rediculous

i wasnt in the biz then but good friend of mine was and still is  she doesnt tell it like that
and now??? where do they get its aweful???  crazy shit!

that girl was a streetwalker
there is a huge difference from what she did and what we do
she was equivalent to a now a days crack whore thats not what we are doing
that might be what the girl who was killed was up to but thats not what we are doing here. very different

GaGambler401 reads

Once upon a time a hooker getting herself in the course of her business was so common it was hardly newsworthy, about as newsworthy as a crack dealer getting shot on the corner where he was slinging. Now stories of prostitutes getting killed, at least non street walker hookers, are so rare that they get front page coverage from the anti 'consenting adults" crowd.

Don't get me wrong, even one murder is one too many, but to argue that the hobby is less safe, especially amongst the TER type crowd, as opposed to the pre internet days of yesterday, is a ridiculous statement that would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that a gullible public is all too eager to believe it and stop us from taking the biggest step to making this even safer by allowing us to enjoy this in the light of day like many other countries already do.

The writer makes it sound like all providers have pimps or external "oppressors" (trafficking, drug problems) that force them to work under dangerous conditions and somehow ties that to the internet... which is the part that doesn't make sense to me.  The author claims, use of the internet = more dangerous for providers?  Maybe it's not a bad thing that girls that typically use the internet for screening purposes are not on the Boston Globe's radar.  The comments that people left below the article are even more interesting to me.

The internet has made sex workers safer by allowing them the tools to screen and avoid physical contact until they are satisfied.

That doesn't mean ever gal will take advantage of this, but one thing is certain:  If sex work were legal, then gals would not have to fear LE and could have the upper hand in matters of security

Journalism at its best .. Prostitution is soooo taboo. Politicians will never legalize it because of there fat ugly wife's would kill them . It cracks me up when you get guys like Elliot Spitzer (ny) trying to clean up NYC by ridding the sex industry and he's hiring ho's for himself . Barney frank, jerry springer, Weiner and do many more . A provider told me she got caught in a sting and as she was going to the station th cop was trying to set up a date with her.. Hate these hypocrites..

When he was a State Rep in Mass back in the 1970s he introduced legislation to legalize, or at least allow under some form of regulation sex for pay.  It didn't go anywhere, but to bring this up back in those days took some guts

This is not the politics and religion board but I'm not mad at any politician really who wavers from the rhetoric they speak versus what they choose to do in their own lives. I blame the electorate and the religious rite because that is why they choose to say and push for such things. If we as a people, as a nation, were more open to sexual things in law, in discussions, in the reality of our collective minds.....you would not find those hypocrites in politics or fame or whatever high profile position there is. Yes, you can blame them up to a point but IMO, you have to blame We The People a great deal more. I'm sorry but it's my truth on that!!

This reads like a badly written college writing assignment.  Almost nothing to support her allegations of fact. No consideration of counterarguments. The author has an agenda but this writing effort does not help it.

I say: legalize, please.

The article COMMENTS mention a forthcoming book: "Getting Screwed: Sex Workers and the Law." October 6, 2015. By Alison Bass

And some other interesting sources:

"Encyclopedia of Prostitution and Sex Work (2 Volumes Set)." By Melissa Hope Ditmore

"Legalizing Prostitution: From Illicit Vice to Lawful Business." By Ronald Weitzer

"Playing the Whore: The Work of Sex Work." Melissa Gira Grant

"Sex Workers Unite: A History of the Movement from Stonewall to Slut Walk." Melinda Chateauvert

"Love For Sale: A World History of Prostitution." Nils Johan Ringdal

BTW ... Anybody think that this topic should be moved to "General".  I think it would be of interest outside of Boston, too.

I had to pick ONE book to link so I picked the Bass book.  I don't know Bass or the book.  She didn't pay me or give me a free session :-) . I just picked one

Now this I think is much more representative of the profession:

Two great books by call girls:

http://www.amazon.com/Working-My-Life-as-Prostitute/dp/0525246703/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437103009&sr=8-2&keywords=working+dolores  
A bit dated but a fun read. Made me think for a bit whether I fucked her when I went to in Black Angus. No, she was there 10 years or so before me. Great sense of humor, made me go "damn!" many times and you'd never look at the shopping mall the same way again. At least I don't.  

http://www.amazon.com/Price-Rise-Natalia-Yorks-Escort/dp/1597775940/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437103255&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=price+natalie+mclellan
Great book albeit a bit disturbing. More contemporary. Seen her a lot on TV during Elliot Spitzer situation. Having lived in East Village in the 90s I can relate to some of her partying too.  

How much of it true is anybody's guess. I look at every autobiography as 40-60% of wishful thinking. Both books are well written and fun read.

Now I'm reading this: http://www.amazon.com/Scorpions-Sweet-Venom-Diary-Brazilian-ebook/dp/B004BDOM2Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1437103613&sr=1-1&keywords=bruna+surfistinha  
It's good. There are many valuable advise for your GF, even wife hidden between many explicit scenes. They'll never pick it up though. That's why we'll keep coming back to you ladies :

I haven't read any of the books you mentioned, but this one:

Posted By: Nnoway
http://www.amazon.com/Working-My-Life-as-Prostitute/dp/0525246703/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437103009&sr=8-2&keywords=working+dolores  
A bit dated but a fun read. Made me think for a bit whether I fucked her when I went to in Black Angus. No, she was there 10 years or so before me. Great sense of humor, made me go "damn!" many times and you'd never look at the shopping mall the same way again. At least I don't.
was published in 1988.  It could be interesting to compare the experiences of Dolores French to those of the Boston Globe article author.  1980s versus 1980s.  Who will win

Oh you know who between the two had a better quality of life :) Ms. French was enjoying hers while judging by the tone of her verse Ms. Boston Globe author is probably maxing out on her visits to the psychiatrist and is embittered about more things then you can think of.

ThatsAllSheWrote319 reads

I have contacted TER to ask if it's possible to move this post to General Discussion, so hopefully that's possible for them to do behind the scenes.  If not, I may just have to copy/paste into a new thread.  I didn't realize this topic would get such great responses!

With the technology available today, I can't even imagine that the Globe would even suggest that writing down a John's license plate and giving it to a friend is better than the tools we use on the internet these days.  Granted, it seems the author is one-sidedly oblivious to these tools in the first place.  

I agree with the comment about this article reading like a poorly-written college essay.  I have some journalism background and was taught to tell the story as-is, not to interject opinions, like the line about SW being "even more awful than it used to be." --Perhaps the viewpoint of the 1980's street-walker is that SW is harder these days, but only because she's not in the game anymore to even be qualified to make that type of comparison.  I also agree, that there should have been a counter-argument included as well.

..this article is nonsense. The internet has, in fact, brought it all out into the open, not driven it into the shadows. Being a prostitute of the sort described in this article always was and always will be horrible. The escorts I see don't live that life. Not to mention they have chosen to escort.

Skyfyre313 reads

Just like most things in life in this day and age. Since now is the Internet age and infos travel far and wide... and fast it just seems a lot of things are worse than before.

Chances are things are the same then as now except in those days there was little mean for the public to know the extend of it

Yo, it usually depends on where you start.  

She's saying it's easier for a pimp to make someone a literal sex SLAVE these days. A pimp used to have to let a girl out to solicit, now he can hide her away.

She's totally right. Hopefully she can stay focused on being anti-slavery, as we all should be

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