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Bob.Sugar 645 reads
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Now he's happy to just get an enema.

The first time I was BTS (behind the scenes) of the sex business was the late 1980's when I did business with the infamous Mitchell Bros at their Theatre of the absurd. I got to know 100's of them and had an ex porn star girlfriend.

I noticed that they incessantly talked about their exit strategies and yet were never really able to quit. They were always going back to school, looking for jobs, talking about non-sex businesses they were getting into but always came back to sex work.  

Since the strippers  also hooked , I'll refer to them as hookers. It seems that hookers never stop hooking until they are too old to do it. I've had hookers contact me five years after quitting wanting to hook up with "old friends." Many come back under different names.

So, why can't hookers ever quit permanently

GaGambler862 reads

Being a hooker pays more money that all but a very few civvie jobs. It's hard not to go back to the "easy money" when times get tough financially. The very same thing can be said about athletes. How many "past their prime" athletes do you see attempting come backs?

I think the reality is, who the fuck wants to do a nine to five job for a lousy 40 grand a year when they can make a weeks pay in a couple of hours? Personally I can relate, I wouldn't last two days at a "normal job"

Bob.Sugar783 reads

But it is sad to see once great athletes try that comeback.  Some do it because of their ego...others because they've pissed away the "big money".  

The list of athletes who have had to pawn Championship rings/memorabilia is quite sad.

I don't think there's really an expiration date on hookers however.  Perhaps you haven't been to the photo board recently.

Posted By: GaGambler
Being a hooker pays more money that all but a very few civvie jobs. It's hard not to go back to the "easy money" when times get tough financially. The very same thing can be said about athletes. How many "past their prime" athletes do you see attempting come backs?  
   
 I think the reality is, who the fuck wants to do a nine to five job for a lousy 40 grand a year when they can make a weeks pay in a couple of hours? Personally I can relate, I wouldn't last two days at a "normal job"

GaGambler725 reads

If a fifty year old ex NFL player could still get paid to play football the same way a fifty year old OTHFB can still get paid to suck dick, you can better your accountants last dollar that huge numbers of athletes damn sure would do exactly that.

The list of athletes pawning Championship rings is not only sad, but long. I have a friend who was recently trying to sell his World Series ring for a paltry few grand. He was on the team as a relief pitcher, but never made any real money, and made even less in the real world.  

and I have no need to go to the photo board for proof, did you see anything in my post that indicated I thought that way? Besides, TER no longer gives me hazard pay for looking at photos of women that should be paid to put their clothes on, not to take them off. I thought a rich successful man like you would be smart enough to subject himself to such abuse. lol

Bob.Sugar814 reads

We've still got Tiger as a client...but shit, let's face it...50 can't come fast enough for him.  Maybe he can win a few old men's championships again against the really old farts.

As for viewing washed up athletes...it's why I constantly look at the photo board.  I'm quite surprised you don't.  LOL

Trying to compare a 50 year old NFL player to a hooker...even an OTHFB hooker is not close.  I would think the conversion ages would put the hookers age at near 137.  I'm sure they still would show on TER the age range of 41-45 however.

Now you know why I actually get paid the BIG bucks...it's a tough gig but someones got to do it.

Posted By: GaGambler
If a fifty year old ex NFL player could still get paid to play football the same way a fifty year old OTHFB can still get paid to suck dick, you can better your accountants last dollar that huge numbers of athletes damn sure would do exactly that.  
   
 The list of athletes pawning Championship rings is not only sad, but long. I have a friend who was recently trying to sell his World Series ring for a paltry few grand. He was on the team as a relief pitcher, but never made any real money, and made even less in the real world.  
   
 and I have no need to go to the photo board for proof, did you see anything in my post that indicated I thought that way? Besides, TER no longer gives me hazard pay for looking at photos of women that should be paid to put their clothes on, not to take them off. I thought a rich successful man like you would be smart enough to subject himself to such abuse. lol

GaGambler637 reads

It's not that the athletes don't WANT to come back, it's that NOBODY will pay them to come back, unlike the members of the OTHFBC, which I am sure all that research you have done on the Photo board has proven to you. I suppose I must value my eyes more than you, or that you need that "big money" more than I do. I treat the photo board like your clients treat xrays, only so much exposure to radiation, or old saggy tits, can be had without irreparable harm to the subject.

Bob.Sugar643 reads

It won't necessarily be the top teams in the top leagues...but there is always a place for washed up pro athletes to go.    

Just a reminder...I wasn't hired in time to be a mod in the old days.  So I wasn't subjected to having to look at every post and the pics attached to them.  I honestly don't know how you guys did it.
 

Posted By: GaGambler
It's not that the athletes don't WANT to come back, it's that NOBODY will pay them to come back, unlike the members of the OTHFBC, which I am sure all that research you have done on the Photo board has proven to you. I suppose I must value my eyes more than you, or that you need that "big money" more than I do. I treat the photo board like your clients treat xrays, only so much exposure to radiation, or old saggy tits, can be had without irreparable harm to the subject.

GaGambler582 reads

My advice is to monitor your exposure time diligently, I would hate for you to do permanent damage to your eyes. After all, how can you play at the Pro Am in Pebble Beach if you have lost the ability to see?

L.Guapo752 reads

The hooker can get plastic surgery and look lots younger than her age.  An her dick sucking skills should be fine @ that age.  But no 50 y.o. NFL player is gonna come close to cutting it on the football field.
Being a 50 y.o. hooker ain't such a bad deal, right?

Bob.Sugar659 reads

Well...I guess being 48 is close enough.  Even the NFL pads the stats.  I think that Oakland was still listing George as only 39.  But he was also listed as athletic...which was true.

Are you looking for serious replies or for jerk off ones?
Perhaps asking your question in a non dick head way would bring better answers.

Unless you're just a jerk and your trolling works. Then hey, whatever.

Posted By: Alyssa Marie
Are you looking for serious replies or for jerk off ones?  
 Perhaps asking your question in a non dick head way would bring better answers.  
   
 Unless you're just a jerk and your trolling works. Then hey, whatever.
Not trolling. What is dick head about the post? Would it have sounded better if I used the word "Provider?"

GaGambler660 reads

but that aside, I don't see a thing about your OP that is dickheaded.  

It's a legitimate question, especially since some hookers have retired more times than pro boxers.

Are you having trouble finding an exit strategy too

Bob.Sugar516 reads

Now it's just what it is.

Posted By: JackDunphy
Are you having trouble finding an exit strategy too?  
   
 

No matter how much one may like their occupation, you'll burn out on anything you do all the time. I'm particularly fond of the ladies who have other pursuits but take on some appointments for some quick cash, as their free time allows. Makes total sense to me - I'd do it if I could!

Bob.Sugar477 reads

be the Archivist.

When will your stats publication on this be coming out?

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
And sees it as a positive.

1. They start drugs
2. Their business failed, 8/10 new businesses die in the first year
3. Easy money is addicting
4. They get lonely (we all do)
5. the ego boost of being paid to have sex with someone
6. Bad money management, spend everything on retarded shit like an x6 or a ton of shoes/clothes
7. Ran into a pimp
8. Got caught evading taxes/laundering
9. They just miss the business

I think they can quit permanently, they just have to find something more lucrative to do than being paid to have sex. In the case of my aunt she started manufacturing business and invested in real estate

PussyLipGloss509 reads

Posted By: ronkini1234
1. They start drugs  
 2. Their business failed, 8/10 new businesses die in the first year  
 3. Easy money is addicting  
 4. They get lonely (we all do)  
 5. the ego boost of being paid to have sex with someone  
 6. Bad money management, spend everything on retarded shit like an x6 or a ton of shoes/clothes  
 7. Ran into a pimp  
 8. Got caught evading taxes/laundering  
 9. They just miss the business  
   
 I think they can quit permanently, they just have to find something more lucrative to do than being paid to have sex. In the case of my aunt she started manufacturing business and invested in real estate.  
 

GaGambler421 reads

You make this statement as if his aunt being a hooker was a bad thing.  

Even here, hookers get looked down on. Now wonder legalizing prostitution in this country has so little traction.

Dats rite

Posted By: PussyLipGloss
 
   
Posted By: ronkini1234
1. They start drugs  
  2. Their business failed, 8/10 new businesses die in the first year  
  3. Easy money is addicting  
  4. They get lonely (we all do)  
  5. the ego boost of being paid to have sex with someone  
  6. Bad money management, spend everything on retarded shit like an x6 or a ton of shoes/clothes  
  7. Ran into a pimp  
  8. Got caught evading taxes/laundering  
  9. They just miss the business  
     
  I think they can quit permanently, they just have to find something more lucrative to do than being paid to have sex. In the case of my aunt she started manufacturing business and invested in real estate.    
 

many do find a way to move on.

Sometimes they got married and didn't have to work anymore, some got good day jobs, some had kids and didn't think they could continue.  The reasons are varied.

A few I knew who quit but then came back.  Hey, that's a good thing in my book

Townman591 reads

...it doesn't happen often though. I used to live with an escort who put herself through medical school and now is a pediatrician somewhere in Ohio. Maybe she's your kid's doctor, you never know. :) I doubt that she still supplements her income with escorting though.  

I know of four ladies that got married but two of them still couldn't stay away since they consider it "the life". It provides them with fun and diversion and it makes them feel at least somewhat independent. The other two so far are indeed in a "state of quit". At least while they're still married. Let's hope that their husbands don't lose jobs or they don't get divorced.  

Because for them, just like I suspect is for majority, it's a sisterhood of sorts. It's like "Once a Marine, always a Marine!" Or like Hotel California and being Jewish, i.e. "You can check out any time you like but you may never leave"

bobs.sugar.baby713 reads

1. Miss the freedom
2. No support network outside this network that can wait a year for a girl to get back into the job force
3. Gap in employment must always be explained. And is always tough to explain.
4. Paranoia that "they'll know" or "they recognize me from my pictures"
5. No luxurious make overs every week or so. You start feeling scraggly and un done-up
6. Less sex, more 'real' dating, with no job yet and no explanation
7. No traveling
8. Here, you have to learn not to accept bullshit, and also not to let guys belittle you. In the work force, you have to deal with ass hole clients all the time, and/or bosses, and you have to be nice back. That's not easy if you're used to five years of no putting up with BS (within reason)
9. You are mostly alone, doing your own thing, and all of a sudden you are thrown into public exposure all the time.
10. Re identifying with your real identity (big one) when you've been a completely different person for years.
11. Soul ties. You have to cut off everyone you know. The large change in cutting off relationships and building entirely new ones is drastic, and can cause a lot of stress, loneliness, and confusion.
12. The offer for a weekend getaway @ $5k after making pennies over weeks at a time.
13. Some people really get off on doing this, go back to normal life, and the sex isn't the same.
14. Other people outside who do know you've done this do not understand and think you're traumatized, abused, and need lots of therapy, where shaming is constant. They also constantly believe you'll go back.
15. You are at an age where everyone is married with kids, and you don't fit in with the social crowd.
16. Your sugar daddy has a ton of money and spoils the living hell out of you, introduces you to famous people, and puts you through grad school.
17. Non hobby guys can't eat pussy.

All interesting points. Many of these girls start out young. Many have done a lot of drugs and alcohol. One day they wake up and they are 30 years old with no real education and no resume. A few go back to school and get a degree but if you are 33 and have a spotty resume gaps in employment will make it very difficult to find gainful employment.

They often must hide their past from future employers and future relationships. When they leave sex work they are faced with a catastrophic loss in income and usually don't have the support group that most of us have to fall back on.

In the "old days" it was called "in the life." Can they get out? Is it like the old Eagles song "Hotel California?"

bobs.sugar.baby522 reads

Probably stimulates the pleasure center of the brain the same as porn and drugs.

I guess you never know until someone lives the rest of their lives through death that they'll never come back here, or other addictions.

The lack of income is by far the worst shaming I've seen - well over admittedly being a hooker. It is probably the most humiliating part, too. (Being broke lol)

It's hard, but it takes a tough person to follow through and stick with it. But I would have to say if anyone does leave, don't be too open with just anyone. A lot of times its them driving you back too.

Did I mention debt? Or expensive obligations that you can't afford with zero dollars per month? Lol. Living an expensive lifestyle, all the memberships, the car, expensive place, all of that. Then just deciding to quit when a 27k/year job offer comes. But you have obligations of over 75k plus $4000 shoes lol.

Year emergency fund with no debt or obligation, and strong discipline and maybe, maybe it'll work out.

Be ready to be broke, nobody wants to be around a financially shocked and stressed person all the time. It's almost like hanging with someone going through drug rehab.

There is some thoughts and advice from someone still here! :D

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Despite protestations from some quarters that it is all fake because money is involved, many ladies do enjoy the sex.  Actually, it is more than the sex, several ladies have explained to me that they really like that rush from meeting someone new.   Of course, I don't know about the rest of you, but if someone said to me that they would pay to fuck me, I would find that flattering.   I think that this is a job that can be tremendously empowering with the right frame of my mind.

Of course, due to the nature of the job, or more specifically, due to the nature of the male part of the equation, it is natural for women to wonder just how long they will be able to make it both fun and profitable.  That is why even someone who is genuinely happy in this little endeavor thinks about the exit.    Now, if the person does not like the job, is ashamed or a combination thereof, well, always planning for the exit should not be a surprise.

Especially for a woman with an independent streak.

Why do so many 40-something women just tinker with jobs but mostly rely on their husbands?

1. Because we can.  
2. Because many women value relationships more than the harsh realities of the business world. Definitely not all, of course, but many.

Congratulations, you're collectively our wealthy husbands. ;)

And his answer was 'What's it like to not be a Beatle?'

I have a feeling for many it's the same thing.  If it's what you know, it can easily become part of you.  If it's part of you it's probably eaisier to detatch if you want to or need to.  And if you don't want to or need to, then the question becomes  'why detatch?' not 'why not detatch?'

that pay as much. at least not skills they have developed.

In the doc "after porn ends" all of the guys said it was a positive experience. almost all of the ladies said it was a bad experience and many went back to it

Some of them I have no idea what happened with them. Of the ones I know about, one went back to school, three of them got jobs (not all higher paying jobs, either), and one started a sales gig and wants to go back to school.  

Three of them have been out for a while, two just a year or so. The oldest is in her mid-30s, the next is 31, the rest are in their mid to late 20s. The ones who have been out for a while are done. Married/engaged/new life done.

I do know two others who are on the fence. One got a job that pays crappy so she still does things on the side. Reluctantly. I'm not one of her "reluctants" anymore. "Reluctantly" makes your skin crawl. I'd rather give her money than "reluctant" with her. The other transitioned out of FS to massages

Here is how I know when it is truly time.... when I have to keep doing more and getting paid less for it. Once you're over a certain age and no longer look good, it's just common sense. I think the problem arises when shit happens that you did not expect, and this is just too easy not to play in for a period of time. Most providers I know personally do not work at this gig full time... it would be impossible. Myself for example... I could never live in the money LR makes as a provider, as I don't work that much. I went about 18 months without advertising and worked a real job that did garner more money than I made as LR when I took my little break, but I was still seeing guys UTR. I honestly think the only way I would stop forever and for good would be if I went crazy christian again or fell in love... other than that, I have no issues with doing this part-time and away from home.

Bob.Sugar566 reads

Perhaps you can get on the advisory board to let women know that it's way past time to quit?

Either that or your theory is full of holes  LOL

Posted By: London Rayne
Here is how I know when it is truly time.... when I have to keep doing more and getting paid less for it. Once you're over a certain age and no longer look good, it's just common sense. I think the problem arises when shit happens that you did not expect, and this is just too easy not to play in for a period of time. Most providers I know personally do not work at this gig full time... it would be impossible. Myself for example... I could never live in the money LR makes as a provider, as I don't work that much. I went about 18 months without advertising and worked a real job that did garner more money than I made as LR when I took my little break, but I was still seeing guys UTR. I honestly think the only way I would stop forever and for good would be if I went crazy christian again or fell in love... other than that, I have no issues with doing this part-time and away from home.

Posted By: London Rayne
Here is how I know when it is truly time.... when I have to keep doing more and getting paid less for it. Once you're over a certain age and no longer look good, it's just common sense. I think the problem arises when shit happens that you did not expect, and this is just too easy not to play in for a period of time. Most providers I know personally do not work at this gig full time... it would be impossible. Myself for example... I could never live in the money LR makes as a provider, as I don't work that much. I went about 18 months without advertising and worked a real job that did garner more money than I made as LR when I took my little break, but I was still seeing guys UTR. I honestly think the only way I would stop forever and for good would be if I went crazy christian again or fell in love... other than that, I have no issues with doing this part-time and away from home.
After all these years London Rayne sounds human! As long as you can keep your identity secret from the corporate world being an escort on a part time basis is OK. The biggest problems are the girls who treat escorting as the be all end all of everything. It's very important that you build a resume in the real world. A real job will pay off well in the LONG run. Escorting is OK for the short time but should not be considered a career.

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