with no set defination. A Girl can claim she is GFE while her client is free to claim she is not if he doesn't feel the love. .
I've seen this in some reviews and wonder what does it mean?
I know GFE girlfriend experience, but what is the "translation"?
Not like a real GF would expect you to do.
Maybe you don't have to say hi to her folks when you show up either?
I know GFE girlfriend experience, but what is the "translation"?
...considers GFE that matters.
It could mean she did a covered blow job.
It could mean she wouldn't DFK.
It could mean she expected him to leave after one orgasm even though the time wasn't up.
It could mean ...
Some mangina's and hookers want to talk about "atmosphere" of the session, as to what GFE means. What a crock of shit.
GFE started out to mean certain menu items would be on the table (for most clients) to separate themselves from the SW rules of "no kissing" and the like.
In addition to dfk, most reasonable people would consider daty and BBBJ to be a part of a Gf session as well.
But then some women saw they were losing biz to those girls who offered those gf type sessions, but they didn't want to offer those specific menu items themselves. So....voila!
They then started to use the GFE label in their ads but didn't provide the dfk, BBBJ, etc and then claim that GFE is more about the "feeling" one gets with her and maybe some snuggling and cuddling. Ugh...
Of course they couldnt get away with it without their wk mangina shills, so the johns aren't off the hook either.
GFE in a girls ad ranks right up there with the "low volume" bullshit , the "money is for there time only" and they "never negotiate" canard.
It's become fkin meaningless.
You're either GFE or you're not. I will add that some atmosphere as in acting like you really want to be there helps with the illusion along with the sex acts. I shall always standby YMMV if the john is not up to par hygiene or health wise.
Do you think the ladies that say they are GFE who don't do those three things are lying or do you think they just don't know?
There are a lot of people on these boards all the time who don't know some basic stuff. There are a lot of ladies with fewer than 20 reviews.
Out of the...15 (?) providers that I know personally I can think of two who would intentionally lie. The others would probably be making an honest mistake if they Advertised that they did GFE and didn't one of those activities.
I do feel it is the providers best interest to research the terms she is using on her site and in ads to make sure she can deliver what she is advertising.
I know more than one lady that has levels. $150 an hour for FBSM (BBBJ, massage, HJ, mutual touch, lap dance only), $250 an hour for GFE (everything offered with FBSM plus, LFK, DFK, CFS, MSOG), and $350 an hour for her version of PSE (everything in GFE pus anal, bondage [you], light impact play [on you or her], pegging, food play, roll play, water sports [you or her receiving]) is the level system of a favorite of mine. She is GFE but not always. Depends on hygiene, and $$$$.
Then there are ladies that offer GFE if they like you on a YMMV bases. I used to see a lady that was a FBSM lady but for clients she enjoyed and trusted not to review she was very GFE. Usually she was not GFE at all but for me and a few others she was.
I thought you of all ladies would understand YMMV offerings as you stated your menu like BBBJ is how you are treated and his hygiene dependent. So for some guys you are GFE from my understanding and for others not so much. This isn't rare. I agree you are ether GFE on a given date or not but with a great many ladies there is a YMMV on if she is or not.
I do agree about the definition on GFE though.
I did not account for those that have different sessions. I did mention the importance of YMMV in a lower post....Shit nothing is on the table until I meet the guy and check things out. I decide then and there so i work very much with YMMV. Sorry if I did not adequately convey that in this post.
I am GFE to all those that are clean, healthy and treat me like a decent human being.
with no set defination. A Girl can claim she is GFE while her client is free to claim she is not if he doesn't feel the love. .
For example, does he complain that certain menu items that are usually associated with GFE were not provided, e.g. DFK or perhaps BBBJTC?
I can recall way long ago when GFE started to become a buzz-word. Back then escorts were regarded as people who would give you their bodies, but that was it. In other words, don't expect the kind of loving and cooing you often get from a genuine girl friend.
The first GFE encounters I had were a very welcome change from the "wham-bam-thank-you-maam" encounters I took as being par for the course. This is not to say that on occasion I'd find an escort I'd click with, and the session was very much a GFE experience, but those were the exception, not the rule.
Now I would say that it is more the rule that a gal will act like a girl friend rather than a heatless Hanna, and I think that is progress.
There is still the issue of whether certain activities are always on the menu of a GFE gal, and that is a controversy that will never be over.
There is also the inevitable demotion of a term that becomes a buzz-word which is often the case now with the term GFE
It could simply be a reflection on performance. She might be mechanical or just not in to it.
However it more than likely means she has some rules.....no kissing...cbj or no bj or daty
To answer your question, I think GFE means:
She acts in the way you would expect a new girlfriend to act, in those first few days or weeks of intense indulgence together. In essence, creating the illusory feeling of caring and desire for you; eagerness to please you and be pleased by you in return. In purely sexual terms, I think it includes:
Passionate kissing
Reciprocal oral sex, without condom, maybe CIM or COB
Accommodating a desire for more than 1 round of sex
I believe a lot of "non-GFE" labels get applied when one or more of the above is withheld, or when the experience seems mechanical or forced. I'm sure the term is closely related to the acronym "YMMV", and some experience non-GFE more than others. Others have no interest in GFE at all, and some fall in love with a provider because she gave him a BJ during a 15 min QV
Seems very technical, but well said nonetheless!
For example, there is one provider who is a long term favorite of mine despite the fact that she has a very plain vanilla menu. The reason, despite a fairly pricey cost and not being the highest in the looks or body department, is: She acts (?) like she totally adores me throughout everything we do. We obviously must have great chemistry, and you just can't discount that factor either
I don't believe true GFE comes on a first date.
Only then can you take her garbage out...walk the dog...and get to listen to her problems.
I'd suggest going for a 4 hour paid session to accomplish all of the objectives.
And for God's sake....no discounts!
I have had first dates that felt like I had known the woman forever, it does happen.
I actually had one first date that both of us knew halfway into it that it was not just a GFE, but the beginning of her being a real GF. Those kind of dates happen about one in a thousand, but they do happen. Fortunately I have had WELL over a thousand dates. lol
I find if you make up you mind on something you subconsciously steer things that way.
I have had quite a few first dates that were definitely GFE all the way. I know my date felt the same 
Funny, I had one date w someone who stated that he could not find a true GFE. I found him to steer the session away from it. Nothing in particular but it was like he wanted to keep me at arms length. I'm sure he had no idea that's what was happening.
Weather people admit it or not it's always going to be a YMMV situation. Most of my dates are w repeat clients and I find we generally fall into a certain tone. I might be more of a "PSE" w one person and a "GFE" w another, but I could be doing the exact same acts w both of them. It's a matter of how your personalities mesh. I could end up w someone I think is a total ass that just rubs me the wrong way and go through all this same acts but be doing it just to do it wo the passion behind it. Then its is nothing more than the cold wham bam thank-you mam.
More kissing, less acrobatics
...and she wouldn't kiss him. Just sayin'
Refused one or more of the acts that the gen pop feels is GFE.
Some guys read reviews and walk in feeling they are owed exactly what the other guys got. Well there is this little thing called YMMV. Why would a hooker do something with a dirty or unhealthy john? Most of the time this is the reason she balks at an act.
I am GFE but have refused uncovered oral on a guy with questionable junk hygiene (he dropped trou and I could smell it). I offered a shower but he did not take the hint. In his eyes, I might not be classed as GFE because I put on a condom for oral.
If I would not suck a smelly package on a real BF I sure as shit will not on a guy I just met.
As many have commented, I understand GFE to include DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Aand also an unrushed, affectionate session.
How about PSE? To me it means a more acrobatic/athletic session, high energy, with Greek, piledriver, facefucking, facial, etc. Thoughts?
Some even think it is code for BBFS, which thankfully it often is not.
It should, by rights, include the acrobatic and aerobic type goings on that you often see in hard core porn, but of course there will be a big range of actual experiences.
I knew one PSE gal (She is, in fact, a legitimate porn star.), but she also had a very tender side to her underneath her gruff persona, so she was sort of GFE and PSE, but as always: YMMV. Most of her reviews tended to downgrade her for being a bit aloof and unemotional. Odd when you consider her PSE marketing
And definitely not BBFS.
Probably only one out of 10 porn stars will do Greek. This, and feedback I've seen on the boards, is my argument for Greek not being part of PSE.
Maybe the in term is evolving and I'm out of the loop which wouldn't surprise me.
I offer all that in a GFE, but Greek is most noted for being included in a PSE. It's more wear and tear, and holds a higher price tag. A guy coming on my face or in my mouth does not cause me any extra prep time or downtime either.
I don't fault anyone but myself for choosing a less than adequate date, but what is that?
... and they are serious about what they offer.
For me would describe a true "hi there, wham-bam-Ty-ma'am" encounter. Little or no kissing and "encouraged" to leave after pop.
Some providers just want to do their thing and be done. That's fine as long as that's all you're expecting. It's a lot more mentally taxing to fake affection than it is to just f--k.
I've had a little of both and prefer the GFE.