I think he is saying (and correct me if I am wrong) that hiring a hooker is MUCH easier than dealing with a sugar baby, not that hookers cost too much.
With a hooker you know what the rate is and it's a simple (and fun) business transaction. With Sugar Babies the rate always has to be negotiated, and in the OP's opinion some women have an unrealistic expectation about just how much a SB should make. Or at least that's what I think the OP is trying to say.
Seeking arrangements is a total clusterfuck..you've got 18 to 25 YO's with no idea about the world mixed in with whores mixed in wt delusional MILF's wanting $10K to $20K PER MONTH just because they are good looking and old enough to be somewhat believable to be with a guy that can pay it.
The young one's want $5K per month for fuck's sake. And there are tons of them. And god forbid you mention that there is some major competition (here) at far less cost without the drama, meals trips etc....
That elicits the "I'm not a whore response". REALLY You are asking for cash.
Other than to complain about the women who charge more than you can afford despite what you think they are worth?
If you don't like/can't pay those "arrangements", then stick to hookers.
I will grant that any woman who wants cash in exchange for sexual services with a guy she would not fuck for free is a hooker.
I will grant that any woman who wants cash in exchange for sexual services with a guy she would not fuck for free is a hooker."
after all the threads on courtesan, hooker, whore, provider, woman of leisure &etc., we finally have a viable definition of hooker.....
If a "hooker" is someone who gets paid to have sex with someone who she would not otherwise have sex with........what do you call someone who gets paid to have sex with someone they WOULD otherwise be willing to have sex with.......but of course, it is her profession........so she gets paid, anyway?
And please, do not say..........we call her a very lucky lady!
But why would they when they can get paid?
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Hate to burst your bubble on that one h+t
You see..the hookers are just regular women. They have needs too.
And many johns here get that.
You really need to get out of the area you're hooking in. I can't believe that you can't find some decent looking guys who have a couple of nickels to rub together. And have NO interest in anything more than just having some fun. I know you only fuck women IRL....which is great. But the majority of people on the planet are still hetero.
That seems to be a huge hurdle for you to get your head around.
Thank God the people in my life who are part of LGBTQ are really nice people. If they weren't, they wouldn't be part of my life. But honestly...I don't know of any who have such a hatred for the other team that you do. Get some help for yourself. It's available.
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hat would be my idea of an old fashioned courtesan, but I'm sure many here would take exception
Well they see articles on the internet of how some random college student gets 10k a month with no pics of the girl and they are enticed to ask for the same thing. After that fifty shades movie a lot more signed up, now its i think 10 sb to 1 sd. Its likely that when you message a girl there its her first request shes gotten, so their concept of the market price will be a bit off. Its better to not ask them and have them ask you instead so you will have the negotiating advantage. Its better to go for the ones that are active and at least a few months on the site. Also if price is an issue stay away from richer than cresus cities like New york and LA and aim for small nevergonnagetadecentjobcollege towns.
And the expectations arent set in stone. It depends on how high up, handsome, young, charismatic, fun you are, the more of these you are the lower their price will be. Cheers
to figure out what you are doing............other than venting. Is there a point hidden in somewhere in your post? Providers can only ask what the market will bear. After enough hobbyists are willing to pay it........their price is set........but NOT written in stone.
Then of course, one must factor in supply VS demand...........but this enterprise is not much different than any other. You always have the option of letting your actions speak for you..........and pay only what you feel comfortable paying. That in itself will show you what the going rate is in your area......little by little. We are victims of our own actions.
I think he is saying (and correct me if I am wrong) that hiring a hooker is MUCH easier than dealing with a sugar baby, not that hookers cost too much.
With a hooker you know what the rate is and it's a simple (and fun) business transaction. With Sugar Babies the rate always has to be negotiated, and in the OP's opinion some women have an unrealistic expectation about just how much a SB should make.
Or at least that's what I think the OP is trying to say.
just for the reason you state....they just don't get it...If I were a guy with enough money to be a sugar daddy, trust me, I will be interviewing THEM..not the other way around....tons of sweet looking young ladies out there....guys with REAL cash...not so many.
The young one's want $5K per month for fuck's sake. And there are tons of them. And god forbid you mention that there is some major competition (here) at far less cost without the drama, meals trips etc....
That elicits the "I'm not a whore response". REALLY You are asking for cash.
Swimming in the cesspool that is SA is actually exactly how I realized that I really should just become an escort. It's everything I loved about arrangements, and none of the bullshit. I still get taken out on amazing dates, meet incredible gentlemen, and make great money. But what I DON'T have to deal with is the awkward negotiations, the endless back and forth emails with people too scared to actually meet, and the expectation of (usually one-sided) monogamy, among other garbage.
I think the percentage of people on that site who actually find what they're looking for within a month of being on there is probably hovering around 25%... if that. There are absolutely men and women on there who "get" it and who are everything you could ever ask for in a Sugar Daddy or Baby, but they are few and far between.
TER > SA, for sure