So I am an experienced hobbyist with quite a few visits to different providers and am now planning my first overnighter. It is with a provider I have met and clicked with earlier. I understand the general etiquette and the way to go about it: we will meet at the hotel, go have dinner at a nice place, go back to the hotel room, have some fun, get our full night's sleep and so on.
But I have a question regarding a bit of a delicate matter I am not sure how to broach with her: How many times can we have a "go at things" in an overnighter? Even accounting for the time for sleep, I was looking forward to going at least thrice: before dinner, after dinner and in the morning. However from my scheduling email conversation so far, she seems to be hinting that it is EITHER pre-dinner festivities OR the morning one. Is there an unsaid rule or etiquette around this which says overnighter means twice? The rates for overnighters are significantly higher than say a 4-5 hour visit, where we went at things twice. It was surprising to me that the pre-dinner festivities would be ruled out. Help everyone?-- Modified on 7/1/2015 12:05:39 AM
Perhaps she's thinking of multiple post-dinner activities? Being tired from a good orgasm is never fun before dinner...
My question was simply: do overnighters have a limit of twice (for some providers)? I haven't seen anything along those lines in my research here, hence asking. How should I ask the question to her?
I rarely engage before dinner, as I'm usually dressed to the nines with my make up and hair ready for dinner. Many women feel the same. But there's absolutely no limit to the number of activities that can happen after dinner and before parting after breakfast.
As far as asking her, probably not a good idea. Does she have reviews that might enlighten you? If you have VIP, maybe you could pm a few of her reviewers who have booked overnights. If you're really concerned about getting a certain number of gos in with this overnight, maybe you should do as others have suggested and book her for four hours and book someone else in the morning, or look for a lady who specifically has a "stay in" rate on her site. If your goal is to spend a wonderful evening in a lovely lady's company, letting things unfold naturally (which is what overnights are generally for), then go forward with your plan to see her and don't stress. Have fun!
Appetizer, dessert, and breakfast are standard in my experience. But, as always, YMMV applies...
I would have the first round before dinner however. Nothing slows me down more than eat or drink.
Since my first shot is my best shot, I want it to be under ideal conditions.
depends on how many times she wants to open up her diner..
First off Why would you paying a provider to sleep, that's just crazy.
For what your saying is your going to spend a grand plus to have one round and let her eat and sleep the rest of the time.
Hey it's your money, but I think you can find better ways to spend it, Like on other providers you want to see.
I understand that provider are not sex machines and do need a break in the action to recharge, and I'm sure the guys need the same thing. So the idea of going at it all night long is not going to happen. So I don't understand why she is limiting you to one round.
Having read a few provider sites about overnights rules, for a 12 hour overnight appointment, they require a 2+ hour dinner, 8 hours of sleep. So in the end your paying for maybe 2 hours of play time. Granted they idea of cuddling and sleeping next to a beautiful women sound nice, but not at that price.
Look the only one who wins in an overnight appointment is a provider, not the hobbyist.
I would stick to the short appointments, Why not have 2 shorter appointment instead of one long appointment. More fun for you.
Just my thoughts on the matter.
P.S. the photo below is eye candy only, not a provid
Aren't you the guy who scours ads and analyzes them for the boards? The one who is constantly asking who everyone else got jiggy with that week? Spending time finding cutesy pictures so even the guys who come solely for jerk off material will "appreciate you"? THAT is less understandable than wanting to spend an evening with a woman, curl up next to her after an orgasm, and then waking up to a warm mouth on your dick. Wasting their money? Shit the only thing you've got is time and this post, like most of your others, seems to be wasting just that.
And the worst is that the arm chair quarterbacks who always feel the need to chime in are always so god damn ignorant! Really? You've never done an overnight but you just KNOW? Get off it dude. No one is getting a 2 hour appointment and then sleeping on these things. If you spent less time sucking those sour grapes you would realize that the people that do them proooooobably have a reason.
Maybe if you spent less time playing around on the Internet, focused a little more on details like your/you're, and put half the energy you spend dicking around on here into something productive, you'd get to the point where what you did with an extra grand wouldn't seem like such a big deal. Let alone what someone else does with theirs.
OP- you're right. At least three times is normal. You'd have better luck bringing it up to the woman you're seeing, who would know a thing or two about what she does and expects. Unlike a lot of these jokers...
You will always have the people who live in a victim like mentality. I can't understand why. I lost that pity party lifestyle when I was 18 and realized that living life is freaking awesome and so much fun is out there. "Sour grapes" nails it. Why? Throw them away and go to the grocery store and get some new ones.
This whole "why pay a provider to sleep?" Huh?? So, by this sour reply if this guy is 4 minutes late, do you think he cares that he has wasted some of a providers time and will excuse himself 56 minutes later? Nahhh... He doesn't realize that is eating up 4 minutes of my life. You know what I say to people who are five minutes late? Whatever! Sh!t happens! By his reasoning I should be able to ask him to leave in 56 minutes or to pay for an extra four minutes for taking mine from me..
Seriously... People pay for experiences. Not always do experiences go as planned. If there is rain three days of your beach vacation can you whine to the hotel and ask for a refund?
Sometimes the whining on these boards makes me realize why a few of you HAVE to pay for play.
I am so fortunate that the majority of the guys that I meet do this because they WANT to.
To the OP, just be upfront about it. My suggestion is to look through her reviews for any previous overnights and reach out to that gent. A good provider knows how to read a situation and how to change things up throughout the evening. Some guys don't want the structured three rounds like you. Some do. Just communicate it with her and reach out to a gent who has already experienced it.
Remember, EXPERIENCED and EXPERIENCE. That's what this is all about!!
xo
I don't see what was so sour about my post, it's was my opinion on the matter, that's it. Nothing more or less.
The OP can do what ever he wants. It's his time and money. Hope he figures it out and does have a good time with her or another provider.
I'm also allowed to disagree with it. 
It must get lonely always sitting by yourself.
Have a great day.
xx
Funny since you have no idea anything about me, your very quick to throw the cheap shots out there.
Since I don't believe in doing overnight appointment, with just that little information you know everything about me.
Guess you are just showing us all what a class act you are.
Have a great life.
EOM
I stooped to your level so you would understand just how you sounded.
"Ohhhh, whamehbuhtmeIMIMPORTANT!!!" = "Sorry I forgot I couldn't have an opinion other than yours"
Let's break down this asinine statement, shall we?
First of all, don't apologize. You don't mean it, we don't care, and the snotty teen attitude only makes it all even less bearable. There's real angst in the world. Phony internet versions are unnecessary.
Second of all, this post CLEARLY asked for clarification on something people have experience with. Not your blessed "opinion" on something that he didn't ask about. So if you would like to issue a fake apology, by all means. The OP's name is right there at the top of the page. You did, after all, call him crazy on your mini rant of ignorance on the matter.
And thirdly, you are of course welcome to your opinion. But if you're going to ram it down peoples throats as if it's important, remember that someone else may too have one of these opinions too. And when you don't know what you're talking about, it's probably going to be different than yours.
If you were an accountant, and the janitor said to your boss "Why do we even have Lamont? There's quickbooks and turbotax! It's crazy to pay him!", would you say "Oh well that's nice thank you for your opinion", or would you roll your eyes and resist the urge to pat him on the head because some people are just to damn dumb for their own good?
That's how you come across when you post inane things like "I don't understand why you live like that because I'm not nearly remotely in the region of being about that life" and then act pouty when someone doesn't take your sour grapes/opinions with the proper authority for your delicate tastes.
Someone had to let you know. I'm sick of seeing the janitors act like "have not" is the place to be on here.
HAHA, just kidding. we disagree on a lot, but I am with you on this one.
There is too much of people asking legitimate questions and getting answer that sound like "what the fuck are you doing buying a blue one in the first place? Green is so much better" Not a terribly productive response, is it?
Some guys think any thing more than 15 minutes is a waste of time and money, other guys whisk their hookers off to a three week South Pacific cruise. Which one of them are "doing it right"??? The guy/s who are happy with the results are the ones "doing it right" what ever "right" is for them.
For the record, I like sleeping with a woman, I like the body to body contact and I like having an outlet for my "morning wood" Lamont might not agree or approve, Frankly I don't give a fuck.
I will say one thing in Lamont's defense though, he posts great eye candy, so I grant him a little slack for this stupid and overbearing post of his. lol
and DON'T post pics.
I mean if we're going to be talking about board space wasting assholes we might as well get it all out there. There's been not a single taint shot from you. It's like you don't even want us to trust you.
These single moms depend on you to turn those economies around!
I am rather technology challenged and probably haven't taken a hundred pics on my phone in my entire lifetime. Not to mention none of the chicas I see have web sites.
As far as those single moms go, I am doing my best, one mamacita at a time. lol
Can't even work a camera. No wonder I never liked you. What is even the point of being asian then???
You do know you can change that now, right?
"Now you think you know everything about me" pout.
Black and white thinking is a huge issue.. Usually it effects parents of toddler aged children, but some never mature past that stage..
The whole "have a nice life" cmon no...
Anyway.. Enough piling on this guy for me.
I'm off to enjoy the sunshine.
xx
A million to you. They can afford to do it and enjoy to do it and per capita it's less out of his wallet than yours. By far I'd wager. Sure you're entitled to your opinion but does it have to be the 'smart way' as you posit it? You sometime do come across as always thinking you're the smartest guy in any room when usually that's my job. 😄
That's MY job. lol
but I do agree, I do overnights all the time and the reason I do them is that "I" like them, and I don't give a fuck what anyone else has to say on the subject, and neither should the OP. if he wants to do an overnight, and he wants a little advice on what to expect, the last thing he needs to hear is that he's stupid for doing it in the first place.
For the record, and in answer to the actual question by the OP, What he is asking for is hardly unreasonable, but the only person who can tell him if that is what he is going to get is the lady herself. He's already seen her so he is free to ask her directly "Can I expect to go three times during our date?" and simply get your and her expectations clarified BEFORE the date, that way there won't be any misunderstandings and you won't be poking her with your still hard dick all night because you didn't get enough sex before falling asleep lol
"some" people would look at anybody who would give a hooker three hundred bucks to fuck him as "out of his mind" too, so it's all a matter of perspective.
Ok maybe but I thought getting raked over the coals for taking 'overpriced hookers' to "eat, sleep and shit" was my job description too according to one of our local multi-named 'stars' here. Can I at least keep that title?
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Not my words my dear. Those of one of the true 'wisemen' self proclaimed of course of ter to me a bit back.
There is no way in hell I would spend an overnight with a john.
Get in, do your thing and leave. If you want another shot at it in the morning, book a morning session but leave me alone to sleep in peace. I prefer not to be seen in public with johns either, keep that crap behind closed doors so no dinner dates, I have great friends I prefer dining with and I do not want to watch a john eat.
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Get in, do your thing and leave. If you want another shot at it in the morning, book a morning session but leave me alone to sleep in peace. I prefer not to be seen in public with johns either, keep that crap behind closed doors so no dinner dates, I have great friends I prefer dining with and I do not want to watch a john eat.
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Yes, they are expensive, but I can afford them on occasion. With a lady you have a connection with, it's sublime...for her , also.
my solution would be to have one provider cum to my hotel around sex pm, then I'd go have a nice dinner, then have a another fuck me in around 10, and a third provide a wake-up ball the next morning.
You forgot about lunch. lol
What you describe, with another one added in about lunch time was EXACTLY how I used to spend each day in Costa Rica in my "younger days" when I was about fifty. Now that I am "old" I tend to do a lot more overnights, keep in mind I drink, and sometimes when out with a woman we might tend to overindulge to the point of just passing out together at 4 AM, it's so nice to wake up to a nice warm body and finish what we started the night before
It's way too much work to schedule all of those appointments in advance, not knowing what kind of mood I am going to be in after seeing the first girl, or dinner, or after the second girl etc.
But in CR, all it takes is going downstairs to the bar, picking out a chica I like and giving her a few bucks. Damn, I sure like it when it's simple. Some of you guys really do make this complicated.
if you want to pound her senseless before dinner (3 times seems a bit nuts considering that could be hours of non-stop action) don't be shocked if she charges you more than the client who wants to let things progress naturally. I've never had a guy flat out tell me "Hey, I want to go 3 damn times before we even leave the room." Sounds more like a porn set IMO, than a natural girlfriend experience where you can take your time. The reason most guys even book longer dates is so they don't have to rush through rounds... you might be better served just having her come over for a few hours and then come back in the morning again. It's not the amount of times in the total time that seems excessive, but your insisted 'three rounds before dinner' that comes off a bit much.
I read pretty quick, so it's possible I misread your post and you want to go three times total? That seems to be the norm, and I would highly discount such an overnight. I have had guys who literally wanted to stay UP the entire time, and damn right they are charged more.
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I've never heard of an overnight being so limited- granted, as you said, adjusting for adequate sleep...
I would think that 3x,4x,5x msog wouldn't be unheard of.
But *if* she does have a limit in HER MIND, you need clarification BEFORE dropping that much dough.... If I were the client, I would. And as a provider, nothing is worse than a guy expecting something that "just ain't gonna happen."
So, find a way to ask...
If playing 3 separate times during an overnight is out of the question, because that is what you would LIKE.
If she tells you NO, well, there ya go...
Of course, with you asking before dropping the dough, I am sure she will have the proper incentive (risking losing out on an overnighter fee) if she is trying to restrict MSOG, to rethink before she replies...
Lay your cards down. (Politely lol)
I would.
Foxy
But I have a question regarding a bit of a delicate matter I am not sure how to broach with her: How many times can we have a "go at things" in an overnighter? Even accounting for the time for sleep, I was looking forward to going at least thrice: before dinner, after dinner and in the morning. However from my scheduling email conversation so far, she seems to be hinting that it is EITHER pre-dinner festivities OR the morning one. Is there an unsaid rule or etiquette around this which says overnighter means twice?
The rates for overnighters are significantly higher than say a 4-5 hour visit, where we went at things twice. It was surprising to me that the pre-dinner festivities would be ruled out. Help everyone?
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Makes sense. This was all hints and over emails, I may have misunderstood and she is probably more flexible. Thanks for replying.
I've done a few overnights and haven't dealt with any steadfast rules on the number of times. That's probably because I just let things happen naturally. Each lady has been a different experience and all have been wonderful.
I will say that I've hosted these overnight stays at my home versus a hotel room. I find the atmosphere a bit more inviting and offers me a lot more flexibility on how we spend our time together than staying in a hotel room.
I am soooo with you on that....
Would not use my personal home, but no way in hell would I spend 12 hours in a hotel room... condos are much cheaper and more comfortable. I have to have room to breathe, and if you go back to the 'drop a deuce' thread lol, who wants to do that 5 feet away from a person in a hotel? Uch!
Any more than 2 hours, is not happening in a hotel room.
Space is important. Almost all my overnights were in my home, but that's a risk unless you're really trusting of the other person. In my case, the gal and I both knew each other by our real names, no aliases, and I knew where she lived too since I picked her up there for dinner several times.
In the few other cases we were in hotel or spa suites. I always was up before the gal and in each case she 'slept in'. Having separate space to retreat to helps. Even better is having separate bathrooms. In my home we used separate bathrooms, and I've been in spa suites with separate his and hers bathrooms. Sharing a bathroom with any woman is a challenge. Lol. I probably would have been divorced a decade or two earlier if I'd ever shared a bathroom with my ex-wife.
Overnights with a gal in a standard hotel room? Not that attractive
In your area, condos are more available than where I'm located and more reasonably priced. I'm in an area that is central located, so when going out, nothing is too far away.
I won't host at my place unless I know them well enough and we've met a few times. I try and create a very warm and inviting atmosphere for her. I've yet to have had a less than wonderful time
I've done lots of overnights, though almost all with one lovely lady. I would never do an overnight with someone unless I knew her pretty well. If you know the gal well, seems to me you should be able to find a way to communicate with her about your joint expectations. I did with each of the ladies I've been with, and seems to me this is the best way to avoid disappointment. At least in my case, there were no preset 'rules'. We worked out what was comfortable for both of us.
As far as rates and overnight premiums, seems to me that varies a lot from gal to gal. Some gals have stated overnight rates, and sometimes they state at least a few specific expectations. In my case, most of the overnights were with a gal that didn't have a stated overnight rate, so everything was custom. As far as guys not 'paying to have her sleep', well I didn't really think that's what was happening. The custom rate was pretty attractive. But personally I would avoid an overnight with a gal that charged a big premium for an overnight. Seems to me that gals that want to encourage overnights have a rate structure that makes it attractive. Those that think its a chore, or otherwise don't specifically encourage it, charge big premiums if they even offer it.
I've been fortunate enough to have many overnight (or multi-day) dates with my ATF. We've found a schedule that works for us. For me, while I love the sex, I also love the extended time just being with her, going to dinner, going to shows, etc. I do think you should sort it out ahead of time and both be clear. If what she wants is not in line with what you want, don't do it. But don't implicitly (or passively aggressively) accept her terms, go on the date, and then try to pressure her into doing more. Learn and then respect her boundaries.
... and comfort with each other. When I've done overnights, we've never discussed how-many-times beforehand. We agreed on general activities for the overnight (or weekend in some cases). Our shared objective was having a good time in each other's company. And we did that. We didn't worry about when or how much sexual play would happen. There was plenty of time for it, and it happened in due course.
I snore like a bear, not that I've ever heard a bear snore, I wouldn't want anyone to have to try to sleep in the same room as me, too much to ask. But I have done an extended date, 7 hour, to a Vegas show. We had action before dinner, show, and a bbbj in the limo on the way back to the hotel where we got cleaned up and went for two more rounds. To do an overnight and only get two or three rounds in, I'm not interested in that.
But hey, to each their own.
I finally did an overnighter with my ATF a couple of years ago and she arrived at my home at approx 8pm. I offered to take her out to dinner, but she declined. To make a long story short, by 11:30pm I had locked my self in my bathroom and was in a heap on the floor sobbing....no mas...no mas...
My point is that I've not experienced any "limits" on overnight. What if you wake up at 4am with a massive hard on from laying next to her and you've used your limit. Thank would kinda suck.
Since she is "hinting" about limits, you should be blunt and ask...how many pops/bjs do I get for an overnight. To me that just ruins the experience up front. Maybe I would find someone else.
But I have a question regarding a bit of a delicate matter I am not sure how to broach with her: How many times can we have a "go at things" in an overnighter? Even accounting for the time for sleep, I was looking forward to going at least thrice: before dinner, after dinner and in the morning. However from my scheduling email conversation so far, she seems to be hinting that it is EITHER pre-dinner festivities OR the morning one. Is there an unsaid rule or etiquette around this which says overnighter means twice?
The rates for overnighters are significantly higher than say a 4-5 hour visit, where we went at things twice. It was surprising to me that the pre-dinner festivities would be ruled out. Help everyone?
-- Modified on 7/1/2015 12:05:39 AM
But I have a question regarding a bit of a delicate matter I am not sure how to broach with her: How many times can we have a "go at things" in an overnighter? Even accounting for the time for sleep, I was looking forward to going at least thrice: before dinner, after dinner and in the morning. However from my scheduling email conversation so far, she seems to be hinting that it is EITHER pre-dinner festivities OR the morning one. Is there an unsaid rule or etiquette around this which says overnighter means twice?
The rates for overnighters are significantly higher than say a 4-5 hour visit, where we went at things twice. It was surprising to me that the pre-dinner festivities would be ruled out. Help everyone?
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This is a fuck board not a dating service
I would not worry about quantity of playtimes too much.
Caveat - I have only met 10 providers in 18 months of hobbying. And there is only one of the 10 I would want to see for an overnighter.
I have seen her more than 40 times. One was an overnighter and one was for a 7 day trip. We have another overnighter booked about three weeks from now. I can't hardly wait.
For our previous overnighter and trip, I let her know ahead of time that time with her was the priority, not playtime. She surprised me on our first overnight with three play sessions - I did not think I had it in me, but she showed me that I did indeed. I was also very concerned before that night, i.e. how it would all work out, but she put me at ease and it turned out to be very comfortable, easy, and the best night I had in decades.
For our extended trip, we did not maintain that pace. No where near it even, but it was very much worthwhile. She is the most fun person to be with that I know.
My point: If you want to maximize sex/time, an overnighter is probably not for you. If you want to get to know the provider better, an overnighter is a good vehicle.
Yes , time with her is a priority here, hence the overnight. probably I let the other head do a bit too much of the thinking. Good points.
I have done quite a few overnights over the years, and I have never once heard that an overnight means 2 pops. Frankly, since a typical 2-3 hour date includes 2 pops, for her to limit you to this for an overnight is rather foolish... or perhaps she merely does just not want to do the overnight? Perhaps you should arrange for a long evening date with her instead... and then maybe a morning turn-down service if she is willing, or with someone else if she is not? 
(Years ago I had an old friend who I did a few overnights with who was a BEAR without at least 6 SOLID hours of sleep, and we would typically get a 2 BR suite, play before dinner, again after dinner, depart with a smile and sleep separately, and I would work out in the morning while she slept in, and then she would join me in the shower upon my return.)
Then she possibly should not bother, knowing that there will be at least three goes at her if not one during the night. I could not stand it so therefore I do not offer them.
Mind you, the separate bedrooms, now that is cool, at least she and you get to sleep soundly and well.
Why not give her the number you think you want and a list of the positions you want to do them in. OR you can go with the flow. No, you are a pop guy so this lady is not for you
That's what he wants, it's far from unreasonable, and the best advice given to him is to simply ask her if she is ok with it.
We don't know if this lady is for him or not, it sure appears that everyone is letting their built in biases get the better of them here.
He is not asking for non stop sex, and she is not telling him that she plans on keeping her legs crossed for 11 out of the 12 hours they are going to be together. They don't sound that far off as far as where their expectations lie, why so many of you want him to write the date off already is beyond me.
For the record, I HATE it when I have to be the voice of reason, but somebody has to point out the obvious.
And he wants three, so I guess she is not for him.
Hey if a guys wants non stop sex and can find a hooker willing, I have no bias or issue. Just find out if the two expectations match and go from there.
and that's my point. so many of us are giving him advice based on our own preexisting prejudices when it's such a simple thing for him to just ask her and know for sure.
Three times in an entire evening is hardly non stop sex. Yes your bias is most definitely showing when you make statements like that. The same as people biased in the other direction who seem to think that non stop sex is the norm.
I am stating that if anyone wants non stop sex they can get it with a willing hooker. If they want three goes, two goes or one go and a foot rub, they can get it.
In reference to the OP i did say that he needs to list what his expectations are for the lady. Granted I was being a tad facetious but there was truth to my suggestion. If he had three shots in his head, then ask...yes you did say that too. She hedged it seems in her interaction with him on two. Right there, he needs to move on
I really don't know if there is a norm or etiquette regarding this. Personally, I tend to just go with the flow. I don't like pre planning. I rarely like to play right before dinner as I do take the time to get all dolled up, however, if I have enough time to shower and get ready after, then I'm all for it! I'd say you should definitely expect at least after dinner and morning. Whether it's 2, 3, or 4 times is not really the benefit. The benefit is that you are not rushed. You can enjoy an hour long of just foreplay and you can take your time. You can cuddle after, take baths together. You don't have to jump up and leave. Are you looking for multiple 30 min quickies or rather a couple nice, long, decadent lovemakings? if you're nice and respectful, I hardly believe she'd turn down your advances. I wouldn't! I'd be flattered if you couldn't keep your hands off me.
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