It makes Senor Grumpy's head hurt.

But he is right, this subject does come up about once a week.

We call them "I've fallen for a hooker and can't get up" threads, and yes a LOT of guys fall for hookers. I would have to say that behind getting arrested, killed, robbed, beaten or raped, it is one of the worst things than can happen to the ladies here. Unless of course she falls for him too, and don't laugh, it does happen.  I am hardly a "hunk" but I have had several LTR's with women that I have met through P4P.

I think morons should read it, morons are the only people who think that providers want anything more than a business relationship.

VIP

BTW, to the person who messaged me - I can't read it now, as my credit card company keeps flagging my VIP payment as fraudulent :/ Hopefully it will be sorted out soon."

try writing a fake review on your favorite provider to get your VIP back... seems to work well in this business model..

I have dated several hookers, after all hookers have Boy Friends and a social life just like everyone else. Some clients make horrible "dates" others (like me of course) make for the perfect date/BF/fuck buddy. At least you don't have to lie about what you do for a living.

but yeah, most guys are WAY too clingy, and many of the rest are simply looking for freebie, so I get your point.

Voodoo, just wandering if you collaborated with another provider to determine when it is time to terminate a Pay for play relationship, what would be 4 signs that you would use that would be indicative of when it is time to stop?  Also what signs would you be looking for with respect to their emotions and other types of behavior that take the relationship out of what the scope was originally intended for?   This is a topic that should be a chapter in the escorts business and personal survival handbook.   It is not that you guys are in the business of turning down clients but it is also critical to know and identify what is a good relationship with respect to business.   For some that is kind of obfuscating considering that gfe is on the menu.

like after 1st or 2nd visit?

at some point you have to put your foot down, or you will become a titillating unpaid pen pal instead of a successful, well paid hooker. lol

This is not unique to the sex business, people in all businesses run into time wasters, and people who simply cannot make a decision without you having to force the issue.

If it makes you feel any better, I am often put in the decision to tell someone to "shit or get off the pot" for millions of dollars not hundreds, and believe me, I know how hard it is to chase off potential business, but the truth of the matter is, those time wasters are really clients, nor are they ever likely to be, so you are much better off finding out once and for all if they are for real. There is a saying "you can't lose what you never had" that seems rather appropriate here.

Tell the guy, "I'm so sorry!  Mom/Friend/Client is in town so I'll have to put away this phone.  You'll have to email me to set up our appt."

That is IF you want to possibly salvage a potential appointment.  If he seems like a total timewaster, you have nothing to lose by telling him "No more contact.

Then do you even want that guy as a client?  

This type of behavior seems pretty ingrained and you might be in for a giant headache with guys like this.

I have had this, and this is what I have said......

"I have a very busy schedule and can't continue the back and forth you seem to need. I am more than happy to schedule an appointment and we can chat at length then. "

As for repeated emails, I will ignore a lot of them and site business and other commitments. Eventually I will block if the guy has not pulled the trigger and booked.

Those who will keep sending messages for as long as you keep replying to them.   I will stop communicating if they don't try to set a date after a few message.  Sometimes (maybe 1/3 of the time) they will eventually get back in touch and set a date.   Rarely do they become repeat visitors, though.  

There are those who want to get to know you via email/text/chat so you may want to ask them up-front if that's what they're doing, and decide for yourself if you're comfortable with that.  It's difficult to tell the difference between those types and those who are solely wasting your time, IMO, so I don't go in or the getting-to-know you stuff.  But that's just me.

Many more guys are just wasting providers' time in between the occasions when they have the opportunity and/or funds to actually pull the trigger.  Some get off on wasting your time and will never pull the trigger.  So I don't waste my time, period.    

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If I think I wouldn't mind seeing them as a client in the future, I just ignore most of their contact that isn't appointment related. I may chat with them briefly, a couple of short texts or emails, but if they haven't asked to schedule after a couple of messages,  I just end the conversation by ignoring them. They typically get the hint, and they either schedule or stop contacting me completely. Both outcomes are equally fine with me.

If I don't think I'd like to see them, I just ignore all of their contact and block them if I need to. Easy.

The timing of this post is very odd.   I just had a provider who walked away few hours into what was supposed to be a weekend getaway.  I had already met her once and we clicked (or so I thought).  I don't think I was overtly attached but we had chemistry.  She obviously uses a different screening service and told me she found nothing about me.  Huh!  I am white listed by 2 dozen highly rated ladies between TER and Date-Check (and I mean scores of 10).  But what gave her the "creeps" is that I myself learned about her more than I should. My source was google and intelius!  Just plain public info.  
Many providers had no problem telling me their real names ( of course after establishing good relation and after repeated dates, many of which require travel and airplane reservations and hence the name).  I did my best to explain but I guess I was not good enough for her.  She perceived me as not-so-direct, I guess.  No responses to many emails. She offered to return donation but eventually decided not to.  

The last time we were in Costa Rica at the same time, (notice I did NOT say together) he told me what a lousy wingman I made. I told him in no uncertain terms that I was NOT nor did I want a fucking wingman, and that the ground rules were simple, "I do what I want and you do what you want, occasionally that will be the same thing, but only by accident"

I have a longer tolerance than you though, I can usually make it a day or two with a woman before wanting to chew my arm off, I do make a lot of stupid promises when drunk and horny though. I have lost track of how many women I have promised to take to the beach, mountains, lake etc during the evening only to wake up with them in the morning and having to make up the most ridiculous excuses to get out of my promise once the blood returns to my brain. On rare instances I will actually take a woman somewhere for a day or two, but two days seems to be my maximum. So yes, I too get why women can't stand a clingy guy.