So I'm curious -- what's a typical income for a hobbyist? Or, put another way, how much do you spend a month on the hobby?
But I make quite a bit more than I spend. As for my hobby spending I have an annual allotment in my budget $50k but I never spent even half of that. I would guess my average is about $3k a month. I have spent $6k on a single date once. Yes this is a rich man's hobby.
Agreed and good answer. Instead of providing a $$$$, I will say I looked at the last two months and realized I had lots of fun.
It is what one makes of the wealth.
In that sense, I consider myself to be very wealthy.
(My accountant might have a different take on things.)
"Women have come, women have gone,
Everyone tryin' to cage me.
Some were so sweet, I barely got free,
Others, they only enraged me.
Sometimes at night, I see their faces,
I feel the traces they left on my soul.
Those are the memories that made me a wealthy soul"
And if you spend your wealth on experiences, rather than material goods, you'll only get wealthier.
In that sense we're all getting wealthier here. 
(Though your accountant will definitely disagree with that.)
But even a poor man has a place in the hobby, albeit with modestly equipped ladies.
I suspect you haven't spent much time with the Gates or Buffet families LOL
As for "modestly equipped ladies"....that would pretty much be all of the hookers that are public and on sites like this. Honestly my dear, the big rollers aren't trolling TER looking for hookers. This is just another pool for the average joe to dip his toes into.
The "big boys" don't waste time with this shit. I would love to see any hooker here get one of the Top 500 wealthiest men to fill out a screening form LOL (Actually I hope no one is filling out any of those forms...what a joke).
Shit, I stopped that nonsense years ago and I wasn't in the Top 500 at that time 
I do have a party coming up that I need some servers. Send me a head shot and I'll let you know if you qualify. I'll also need your social security number, drivers license (in good standing of course), three non-family references and a current STD report. You can PM me with your data and I'll let you know if you qualify.
That's cute!
And I have met one of the most highly compensated multinational CEOs off an escort site. Not this one. If I told you which corporation, you would poopie in your pants. He filled out my booking form. Gave me his real info. I met him at one of his homes- a Park Ave penthouse in NYC. You think Rich guys don't do providers??
Where did I say wealthy John's don't see hookers? I'll try and put this in crayon format for you....
Great wealth isn't trolling on TER for hookers. And common hookers like you aren't seeing John's with great wealth.
Now go back to your Twitter account and play with others who have simple minds. I trust you're also a big fan of the Karsashians.
I also don't use the 'like' button. I'll let you click it if you need to.
And I have met one of the most highly compensated multinational CEOs off an escort site. Not this one. If I told you which corporation, you would poopie in your pants. He filled out my booking form. Gave me his real info. I met him at one of his homes- a Park Ave penthouse in NYC. You think Rich guys don't do providers??
Great wealth isn't trolling on TER for hookers.
They do.
And common hookers like you aren't seeing John's with great wealth.
We are.
You think wealthy guys ONLY see $20,000 a day providers and celebrities? Sometimes they want a normal, low profile, no name girl from... Drumroll.... Take a guess!
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Glad YOU are confirming what people do that you have never met. I doubt you've even read their stories in Forbes.
Maybe if you retorted that a common hooker like YOU are seeing johns of "great wealth", that might be the case. However, just like most of the hookers lie, so do the johns. I trust that most johns aren't sharing their portfolio information with you. Or you could lie again and insist that is part of YOUR screening process LOL
Men of great wealth like me have assistants out there who find "us" the types of hookers (actually there is no shortage of hot young girls who pretend they're not hookers, just that they're OK with sex to meet influential men/women) we want to see. Many of "us" are far too busy to troll sites like this one. There's a reason guys like me don't waste time on hookers like you is because "we" have the resources to order what we seek...have it delivered...and when done, send her (them) on their way.
Did you see my friends on TMZ last night?
They do.
And common hookers like you aren't seeing John's with great wealth.
We are.
You think wealthy guys ONLY see $20,000 a day providers and celebrities? Sometimes they want a normal, low profile, no name girl from... Drumroll.... Take a guess!
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How do you see who clicked "like" on a post?
Thanks,
D.
if I give you my ATM card and PIN...........my investment account numbers and passwords for our family trust accounts..........the withdrawal code for all of my first trust deeds..........may I also give you my AMEX Black Card number along with the security code on the back?
I don't need them anyway.........might as well give them to someone who can put them to good use.
but I am single so I can blow my money on whatever the fuck I want. If I had a wife and kids it would be totally different.
There are all types of hobbyist on this board. Some are very wealthy and some are not. It doesn't matter. What do YOU want out of the hobby and what are you prepared to spend to enjoy it? You can spend as much or as little as your financial situation allows you to do. Money is relative and this could be a rich mans hobby. Or not. There are ladies on this board who can change from $200/hour up to $2000.00/ hour. Some are worth more than others. Only you can decide what is of value to spend on this pursuit.
You set a monthly limit and a yearly limit on how much to spend. Stick to the budget. Also do investments that can generate cash income from distributions and capital gains. Of course don't forget to take in account taxes.
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How much do you want to spend. I'm not rich but make a decent living. I Saar this my budget can affordbb
....no it's not just a rich man's hobby.
I have seen gentlemen from various socioeconomic backgrounds so I would say it's not just for the rich.
eep in mind that women in certain parts of the south tend to be cheaper than their northern counterparts because the average salaries are lower there. Especially when you start to leave the cities and start to move into the suburbs. The question from the provider side is always "What will the market bare for my wonderful derriere"? Once she keeps that in mind then finds a price point that she can get on a consistent basis then she is okay. Also it should be generally a price point that her customers can meet on a consistent basis. For instance in Texas because there is an over saturation of providers, the price points tend to be lower. However where the median income is higher and the cost of living is higher the price points will be higher
I am decidedly middle class. Some months after I pay the bills and fully fund my retirement, I manage to have a few extra dollars. So I spend it on seeing a lovely lady. One time a month is all I can generally afford. So I am by no means rich. And in my job/career field, I'll never be rich. Hell, I spend more on student loans every month than the hobby. (But that's another story.) It no doubt helps that I am single, no kiddos, and not supporting my parents (yet.)
So I am.always careful with my budget and very choosy on who I see. I am not "cheap" though. In fact, I like 90 minute or longer appointments. And I never haggle with a lady over her price. If I can't afford to see her and tip her, I find someone else who is in my financial comfort zone. And one way to help stretch my budget is to see FBSM-only providers some months. Other months I might splurge.
Bottom line: everyone can find a way to participate. You just have to be smart about it.
D.
that doesn't mean there's not a poor man's way of doing it...
Many of us know how to hobby within our means. However if you post on the general boards you will be derided as "cheap" by the hookers that consider themselves high class ho's. Generally if we can't or won't pay 4 bills plus we are not worth their time.
What an eye opener. That means hookers have no problem judging us by our income.
Actually they should call you a "discriminating gentleman of true substance." You see..........the providers who frequent TER discussion boards and are paying TER members........are the minority of providers...........NOT the majority. The reason they pressure you or anyone else who makes remarks about 400 and up, provider fees.........is they do not want to let the secret out.......that there are TONS of amazing providers who charge significantly less. They also do not want you to know, that there are tons of 400 and up providers who can not compare with many of the providers who charge significantly less.
That would be like Morton's Steak house telling you.......you could never get a better steak for a fraction of the price anywhere else. And we all know that is not true........by doing our homework..........with just a reasonable effort..........BINGO.......an even better steak at much less than half the price. Morton's will never admit it..........it is not good for their business.
We can all see the parallels in this comparison........but having said that..........I too believe in a free market economy.......and truly have nothing but respect for providers. Yet, the true price of anything......is based upon what people are willing to pay.........and most TER providers will have you thinking Morton's is the only place to buy steak.
Watch the venom fly.........after this is posted..........but don't worry...........I can take it.
I also like some proof to what you are saying. Can you post at least one escort website where the lady would charge, let's say $200 for GFE, has a couple positive reviews which verify her picture authenticity? Also where do you find this TON of ladies?
One of the best I have been with only charged $150 an hour $250 for two. Sadly she retired. But that still makes this a fairly rich mans game. $150 is more than a day's labor for a person in the US. Average wage in the US is about $27K. Even if you throw the wife's income in and JR's the median $50K it is a day's income for that $150 lady. Most at that income level can't afford to lose a days labor regularly and still retire. If they are robbing their retirement to fuck hookers they are fools.
Now most providers are't $150 ladies. I would guess the median is closer to $300 so the costs are more than I sated on average. This is a rich persons hobby. Sad thing most rich people don't see the truth of their income. If your household is $75K you are better off then most thus rich.
But back to the fact there is $150 real GFE ladies out there, I know for a fact there is. Problem is they often don't like reviews and are hard to pick out from the B&S, LE, pimping victims and other troubles. Now if you do one's homework you can find them or if you take stupid risks.
FYI, going rate in Moscow is about $100/hr. And you would mostly likely to add another $50 for GFE ( BBBJ and DFK). I guess the average Russian income is lower than in States, but the prices stand
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revealing all of my sources (remember NOT all of them are on TER)............and without revealing all of my trade secrets...........will provide one example...........but that is all you get.
AND..........she is ABSOLUTELY amazing...........better than any 400 provider I have ever been with.........
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=149783
Now don't go harassing her and "poisoning" the well........she is way too wise for that.
I am completely satisfied. Why you think you'd go harassing her is beyond me.
there are many, many, many, many more..............trust me.
you should keep in mind that some of us may share good finds on the board or in private but we definitely will keep SECRET our golden goose that lays the golden eggs.
Why would I want to pay higher price because I make my bargain-price ATF suddenly popular and in demand?
There is nothing but lose-lose-lose... propositions for me to reveal my good find!
Guys, I'm pretty sure you're all smart enough to know when NOT to ruin the market. Of course lap dogs are excluded (LOL)
a person's income is the ONLY determinant for how much a hobbyist pays a month on the "hobby?" What about;
1) attached hobbyists who may have a higher than average income but experience some difficulty "covertly diverting" large amounts of cash to their hobbying activities?
2) hobbyists who simply refuse to pay 500/600/800 for an "encounter?"
Both of these factors have an impact on whatever response you are after..........
Did you ever see the car Warren Buffet drives or the house he lives in?
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Some months I spend more than others - on the other hand, I have never spent more over the course of a year than my country club dues...
I am not rich - but I am prosperous. I know guys who are rich. At this point in my life, I define rich as someone with 8 figures in their brokerage accounts and/or passive income over 7 figures. Oddly, that target seems to move faster than my net assets do....
BUT if you asked the girl serving my drinks at the club - or giving me a BJ next week - she might have a different opinion
No one thinks they're rich. Except Trump
If one wants to see the 1k ladies I think you have to have a fair amount of excess cash. That, or you're going to make one big splash every 6 months or so. I really don't like to equate this hobby to stamp/coin/card/book/antiques collecting, but there is one similarity. One can always find a hidden gem, and not have to spend a small fortune. When you find a hidden gem who can really bring it, it makes you wonder if the 1k ladies really bring it too, or you're just paying for a certain look, reputation, or moniker
I play the game the way I want to, based on what I can afford. End statement.
You have to love the people who don't want to answer, but have to say something... #thestruggleisreal
Not "rich." Just Spending The Kid's Inheritance!
My gift to my kids was letting them come out of college debt-free and with a car. The rest is up to them. I've told them to not expect any money when I pass... I hope to spend it or give it all away before I pass.
This is a TERRIBLE attitude to have! You have to take care of your kids- for life! Their entire life!
You stated: You have to take care of your kids- for life! Their entire life! Absolutely not!
That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a very long time. And that way of thinking is why we have so many loser/leaches on society, there is no entitlement.
I don't have children, by choice. But I had an amazing Mother, she loved me with ever fiber of her being, but the day I left for basic training she told me "son, I love you and I always will, you can come back here to visit any time you wish, but don't ever come back here to live". This was momma bird kicking baby bird out of the nest and telling him to make his own way in life. I should hope that parents love their children for their entire life, but once a man or woman reaches manhood/womanhood parents are no longer responsible for the basic sustenance of their children.
Each and every adult is responsible for their actions, livelihood and their sustenance, period. If someone has children, they are responsible for them until they reach adulthood, period. Part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for yourself and being accountable for your actions, period.
It's a terrible attitude that you have, that you feel that each subsequent generation has an absolute reliance on the previous generation and thus not responsible/accountable for their life, liberty and happiness. This way of thinking is exactly why we have multiple generations of people on public assistance (that's welfare in case you weren't aware).
absofuckinglutely spot on!!!!
Anyone can easily come up with 200 ish dollars for an hour or 3/4ths of that for half an hour then book an appointment. Yes the rich do browse TER, just look at the LA girls that charge 1k/hour with a lot of reviews (some of them a day long). I think it depends mostly on your sex drive and income. I have huge sex drive and would see 1 a day if I could but I'm in my early 20s and income is only high enough for 2 a month. At 1 a day it would be more cost effective to do SB relationships instead but say if I stay hobbying I would need around ~7000 a month so to satisfy my needs I would need a disposable income of at least 80k+ a year.
Just save your money for what you are looking for in a provider. If it takes 1, 2, or 3 years to save up enough to do so, then so be it. One important person in my family told me you can't take money with you when you die, so that was the green light for me to spend it on having a good time. I don't go overboard and I only spend what I can afford.
I make roughly 12,000 before taxes every month. After taxes, mortgage, homeowners insurance, electricity, water, gas, student loans, car note, car insurance, health insurance, phone, cable, Internet, food, retirement savings, whatever crazy shit comes up and other living expenses. I live very much paycheck to paycheck.
It's my life I try not to complain, but yes I come to the conclusion that you have to be a very wealthy man to afford this world on a regular basis. Weekly.
Once I started paying for service, I found it hard to settle for less than excellence. And so, I keep looking. I have often found amazing providers. But, there is something that always tells me there may be something better. This kind of thinking is expensive. Also, I am hooked on the clear expectations, awesome sex, and freedom from it being more than what it is. Because of the awesomeness of this hobby I have found it hard to stop! Although its important, I don't think its the donation amount or one's salary/discretionary income that matters most. Its one's reason(s) for hobbying that will answer the question is this a rich man's hobby.