I would like the providers take on this:
When someone contact you for a date on your website with a TER VIP handle and P411 client ID, how do you rate the different information to make you feel comfortable? How many account verification would I need to make you feel I am an OK client ( I know the more the better would be one, but realistically speaking ) Is one more important then the other?
This is a question for the hobbyist:
When you have a TER VIP account and a P411 account, and you saw a provider that is also on both accounts. Do you ask her to white list you on TER and ok you on P411. This would seem like a big PIA for the provider....no?
I am a TER VIP member ( with referrals and reviews ) and I just started a P411 account for ease of additional verification. Not counting the membership fees, I found it to be a bit much doing research, looking through 2 different websites to get basically the same information.
Any tips and ideas from the seasoned pros? Thanks
Sincerely
i joined P411 to get my initial verification and used it exclusively for a few years before joining TER.
P411 is like a glossy magazine from a high end store: lots of photos, all arranged by topic (e.g., city). So, if I am traveling to Orlando, for instance, I go to 411 for a first look at who is around.
TER is for the in-depth enthusiast: if I am looking for a high octane 0-60 in 4.5 secs red, that is where I search.
I seldom ask for OKs these days and my few white lists seem sufficient. After all, how many are enough (I suppose that "recent" is a factor)?
Did I show my age by mentioning "glossy magazines" 
Keep in mind that the only way a provider can now give you an Okay is for you to request it, and the ladies do get credit for issuing okays. So I do it as much for them as I do for myself. The only reason I ever do it for my own benefit is as you say to keep them "recent" I don't really want hundreds of okays. One new one every month or two is fine by me.
Now as for white lists, I have never asked for a white list, nor do I ever expect to. I don't write reviews, so for me to ask for a white list knowing I won't be writing a review in return seems a bit selfish and unfair to me, so I don't ask for them.
Both sites are useful when used together I think it makes for better research.
Since P411 is a screening site it makes it easier for verification purposes by looking at a guy's P411 okays.
Even better is if he filled out his P411 profile thoroughly some guys only answer a couple of the questions.As far as rating the info I receive if a gent has many okays that is great but if a gent has a new P411 acct with no okays or just one does not make his appt request any less important than the guy who has alot of okays.
TER is useful to check a guy's reviews here to see what he likes/dislikes.
TER is a great site but from a provider's standpoint I do not take a whitelist at face value unless it is providers who I personally know.The reason being is guy's have whitelists from ladies who they have never had a BCD appt with.Too many times I hear this so while a gent having whitelists might be helpful to some ladies I do require more than a ter handle and whitelisting.But a ter account and P411 together with okays is great
I have had gents ask me for a whitelist after an appt and I have whitelisted some guys.
I don't have a problem with doing this as long as he was a gentleman and not a jerk.
I also do not mind giving a P411 okay after seeing a gent as well I don't think it is a hassle.
I am sure writing a review for us providers is a bigger hassle for the guys then a lady clicking yes or no on an okay or submitting a whitelist.
Oops...I answered both questions...lol
Unless I know the gal, an Okay or WL doesn't hold much value to me. Sure, I will think you are legit and not such a horrid guy but some give them out like candy to just about anyone. Much like not all BL listings are legit, not all WLs and Okays are legit. Once a gal has been around a while, she gets to know which girls in her area keep it professional and utilize WLs etc properly. For the record I will see a guy who is BL'd if I know it is fake and he has references from one of the gals I know.
I like P411 because everything is right there and pretty simple to use. I can see his profile, okays, and likes (if he filled that out). He can book with me directly from there. If he is BSC he will get kicked off (eventually).
I like TER because I can view his reviews, WLs, and see if he is a poster. I can get a better feel of him via TER IMO.
Will always use both!
Posted By: jaydalee
Both sites are useful when used together I think it makes for better research.
Since P411 is a screening site it makes it easier for verification purposes by looking at a guy's P411 okays.
Even better is if he filled out his P411 profile thoroughly some guys only answer a couple of the questions.As far as rating the info I receive if a gent has many okays that is great but if a gent has a new P411 acct with no okays or just one does not make his appt request any less important than the guy who has alot of okays.
TER is useful to check a guy's reviews here to see what he likes/dislikes.
TER is a great site but from a provider's standpoint I do not take a whitelist at face value unless it is providers who I personally know.The reason being is guy's have whitelists from ladies who they have never had a BCD appt with.Too many times I hear this so while a gent having whitelists might be helpful to some ladies I do require more than a ter handle and whitelisting.But a ter account and P411 together with okays is great
I have had gents ask me for a whitelist after an appt and I have whitelisted some guys.
I don't have a problem with doing this as long as he was a gentleman and not a jerk.
I also do not mind giving a P411 okay after seeing a gent as well I don't think it is a hassle.
I am sure writing a review for us providers is a bigger hassle for the guys then a lady clicking yes or no on an okay or submitting a whitelist.
Oops...I answered both questions...lol
When someone sends me an appointment request through there, it makes things go so much faster for screening and booking the appointment. Looking at a well filled out appointment request is way easier than tracking down and verifying different references and asking for this and that over and over. DateCheck and appointment forms on websites are the same way, they're all designed to make things as easy as possible for you to quickly arrange a date.
I don't mind when people send me a message on here, it's not my preferred method but I can deal with it if it happens. It's just not as organized as P411. Literally anyone can write reviews here, so I don't put much faith in them beyond them being a fantasy they came up with. I still have to ask for more screening information, back and forth copying and pasting once I find your reviews on here and track down your references that way.
Either way, both are just a holding area for your references and the information needed to check them. I still ask for more information because anyone can find a few girls to say they're nice, and every verification site has its infiltrations. Two references within the last six months are nice, but because of the way I screen, not necessary.
Happy hunting
Posted By: maxdogooder
This is a question for the hobbyist:
When you have a TER VIP account and a P411 account, and you saw a provider that is also on both accounts. Do you ask her to white list you on TER and ok you on P411. This would seem like a big PIA for the provider....no?
I am a TER VIP member ( with referrals and reviews ) and I just started a P411 account for ease of additional verification. Not counting the membership fees, I found it to be a bit much doing research, looking through 2 different websites to get basically the same information.
Any tips and ideas from the seasoned pros? Thanks
Sincerely
I'm a member of a couple of verification services, but I don't use P411 ...just a personal preference. I'm a member of DateCheck which is similar to P411. I'm also a member of Room Service 2000 which uses a different system for verification.
Whenever I see a provider that accepts DateCheck, I always ask her for an "okay", since some providers may require 2 or more current "okays" for verification. I also ask for a TER Whitelisting, since I think it'll give you more credibility as being a good hobbyist if your Whitelist has names of known providers.
For research, I'll use everything that's available for checking out providers including TER, DateCheck, and RS2000 when applicable. It's always advisable to do your homework and not get lazy, especially when seeking out new providers. It's for your own protection and peace of mind
I ask for Ok's and WL all the time. Never seems to be an issue. The more verifications the better seems to help make everyone feel more comfortable.
I have TER, P411, & Date Check. I've asked for Oks on P411, but I've never asked for a WL (I have two)
at some point it seems that enough is enough and I don't need anymore.
Posted By: maxdogooder
I would like the providers take on this:
When someone contact you for a date on your website with a TER VIP handle and P411 client ID, how do you rate the different information to make you feel comfortable? How many account verification would I need to make you feel I am an OK client ( I know the more the better would be one, but realistically speaking ) Is one more important then the other?
This is a question for the hobbyist:
When you have a TER VIP account and a P411 account, and you saw a provider that is also on both accounts. Do you ask her to white list you on TER and ok you on P411. This would seem like a big PIA for the provider....no?
I am a TER VIP member ( with referrals and reviews ) and I just started a P411 account for ease of additional verification. Not counting the membership fees, I found it to be a bit much doing research, looking through 2 different websites to get basically the same information.
Any tips and ideas from the seasoned pros? Thanks
Sincerely
If I see a member of any or all of those sites, I will request a WL from here, a ref on DC, and an OK on P411. I haven't had many recents on any of the sites as I have not seen many new providers that are members of them. I joined the verification sites as I had read that many providers do not put a lot of stock in the WL, so I figured the more I could offer them, the better off I would be.
The more providers you see, and possibly review, more providers will be more accepting of you. If you are a good or bad client, word will get around either way. You always want to do something to put yourself in a good light with the ladies you wish to spend time with. In addition to the refs, posting on here also lets the ladies get a feel for your personality. Your reviews also offer insight to you as well.
LLAP,
Swim
Most gentlemen with p411 also have TER
they seem to read the reiviews on TER then do the booking thru p411
Im happy with their TER
and in all honesty p411 has gone to shit, just as I predicted it would, ever since they banned all sexual terms.
Whereas before some guys just had p411 now they HAVE to use TER also to get to the juicy details.
The change in TOS has done nothing for p411 but drive users over to TER
I doubt it will survive long term
