Just don't dare try to ask for anything more!
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of a provider who offers cuddle sessions (not massage/FS). What would the rates on that look like? And would any hobbyist besides me actually use that service?
that there is an app, kinda like Tinder, for just this purpose. I'll admit that I do enjoy cuddling up with a lady. Now that summer is here, great time to get a beach bonfire going, a good bottle of wine and do just that.
You're so right! Nights in Montauk snuggled under a blanket in the sand watching the Sunrise, Perf. And if you're brave enough...
Cuddling is great with a SO, someone you are already attracted to. Just charging big bucks to cuddle thinking it's going to be easy is going to see a huge turn around of green girls/guys wanting the payout but not realizing that it is demanding and takes a lot out of you. Being that close for extended amounts of time takes a certain type of person to do this and be good at. Just because you enjoy cuddling your friends won't make you cut out to do this. I say this because I've seen already all over social media the responses of people wanting to do this and they want the easy money. There is no such thing as easy money, it requires being able to be close with strangers in a very short amount of time. They will also realize the amount of boundary pushers thinking it's a front for something more anyway.
It will be interesting to see how this all works out. We are desperately lacking intimacy today and I do believe this could be a good thing. But just like some of the massage modalities being offered that are intimate it takes quite a bit to establish that you are good at what you do and worth the price! From what I've seen, 80 bucks is the going rate for an hour for a cuddle session, and you both are clothed. I am a massage girl and I would be hesitant to offer this. I do what I do because I am very comfortable doing it with anyone who walks through the door who has an understanding what my sessions are about. Those who don't understand I will not entertain!
from some convo that there are a number of sessions that end up doing mostly this in the session - probably more than you might think. One provider I know claims 80% of hers are a BJ followed by some light lotion application (not massage) and some cuddling - and a good number are just the lotion and the cuddling. After her BJ - I sort of understand... woman on a mission... but I digress....
That being said - I would be surprised if you could get a discount off their normal hourly rate. My guess is that it's probably more effort than the horizontal mamba. I know one or two providers that would probably charge extra..
I had a 90 minute session with a provider yesterday that got uncomfortable for a minute. My sometimes yes , sometimes no ED kicked in about 30 minutes in. Thankfully, this was my fourth visit with this provider and she is a wonderful talker. And extremely kind. We spent the next 50 minutes or so cuddling and talking about our lives. It was very comfortable, relaxing and energizing. I don't think i would have that with some of the other ladies I see. It just felt natural with her.
... I know a provider who is not FS but is open to just about anything else. She does a great massage if that's what you want, but what she does better than any other provider I know is tune into what you need and give you that. If that's just cuddling, fine. If you want kisses (deep or not) with the cuddling, great. Great conversationalist too, if you want that. If you want your SO or another provider (who can be FS; extra cost for other provider of course) to join in, she loves that. It's all about you and what you need, within her boundaries. If you want to please her, she loves that too but she'd rather be on the giving end. (Btw, the rate's the same no matter what happens when you're with her; you're paying for her time and company, not for specific acts).
I think what she does is very hard for a provider to do, day in and day out. I think it takes a very giving, perceptive, kind person to do it, and also a strong person as she needs to maintain the boundaries of the provider/client relationship (she has an SO).
But no one has asked. That kind of intimacy is s part of the GFE repertoire but by cuddling all by itself -- that would be different. I suppose it could be very nice!
I've heard of one provider who had one client who wanted something similar along those lines, and she was happy to oblige him. It's not unheard of, that's for sure.
If it were me, I guess I would bill for this like social time, which is about a third of my normal rate, as long as it was outcall, just like the social-only dates are outcall. I would still screen just as heavily as I do any other date, though.
Cameo Knightly offered this: "Cuddling ~ Cuddling Only. Perhaps watching a film, lying on the sofa, with me massaging your neck. We feel loving energy. There's no fondling. Cuddling for those who lack human touch and know it's essential for well-being. You may opt to move to any of the other dates if you feel inclined. Cuddling Date with ONLY CUDDLES 1hr $300 (wear underwear).
No offense, but guys would do these sessions and then try to "mooch" into getting more. Sorry man, that's just how I see it.
The same way that guys smart enough to have discovered and joined TER are still stupid enough to make 411 posts on women that plainly only offer "legit" massages, wanting to know if there is even the slightest chance that more might be on the menu, and they ask this about women who aren't even the least bit attractive.
So yes, I can definitely see these same guys pushing the envelope at a "cuddling" session
Or maybe I'm just slightly less cynical.
Personally, if I wanted more, I'd compensate accordingly.
Some guys have a huge issue with boundaries, and extra compensation doesn't matter if she is not a willing participant
Blaze81 stated that guys would try to mooch into getting more.
I assumed he meant a FS provider essentially being conned into doing more than they were booked for.
If it was someone who did not offer that, I obviously wouldn't ask.
but otherwise really enjoy this idea!
Never ever heard of one in all of my 20+ years of hobby. Which is understandable. Why would any FS or FBSM providers want to waste their time if they have to charge less than their regular rate?
Also like a lady said above the idea is somewhat "weird" that it is a red flag to her. Sounds like a scheme for some financially-strapped guy to get one over..
Haha, I was thinking about this myself right after starting this thread.
But you are assuming that every provider is booked to the brim, which I doubt is the case.
It just boggles my mind that some people can see cuddling and FS as equivalent acts.
...and I never realized that there might actually be a market for it. I'm not a big cuddler, but the gal will usually do it near the end of the session if there is time left over after the big O.
I belatedly discovered that SO hates touch of any kind & I sure miss it. Not what she says but her body language speaks totally clearly. That said I think there is a sexual undertone to at of male touch... or maybe it's just my dirty mind... But I think I'd want it to include release at some point.
You said your SO possibly cringes (the body language you speak of) when approached for intimacy. You then added that you would want release at some point. Does your SO engage in sex with you still?
It just occurred to me why many women not only stop sex but also stop any form of intimacy.......because they feel, and by the sounds of it, rightly so, it possibly will end up sexual with the guy wanting some form of release.
So I guess guys can't really just cuddle and get close without wanting release?
If I am with someone (non paying) and I am not in the mood for sex but want to get close and he eventually wants sex(erection poking me) I just suggest he take care of it himself. If a man gets an erection, a woman is not responsible to take care of it all the time. Same way if I see something I might want to buy, that does not mean a guy has to open his wallet every time.
Sorry a bit off track but somewhat related.
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or for that matter any other girl either so no offense! It is because like you said it would be hard for me to cuddle with someone without eventually getting aroused. If the girl is not going to help "release" it then what's the point really? There might be dude out there living such a lonely life totally bereft of human contact and intimacy who are desperate for cuddling but not me at all.
I get all the cuddling I need right now whenever I finish a session with my regular ATF! which IMO is the better form of cuddling because it will be purely therapeutic and not likely to leave me with blue ball..
If the women are taking two steps back to avoid any contact it is because they are not interested in sex and any touching it seems, leads the guy into wanting a release. Not a bad thing, it just makes me and hopefully some guys realize why the wives etc are not interested in ANY form of touch.
In my real life, if I am with a guy...and he pops a hard on and I am not interested, not my responsibility to relieve it UNLESS I am in the mood. I already service men in this job. In my real life that is the last thing I want to do. I want to be an active and willing participant and when I am not, I cannot see the point of servicing someone for free. That is why you have hands.
It just occurred to me why many women not only stop sex but also stop any form of intimacy.......because they feel, and by the sounds of it, rightly so, it possibly will end up sexual with the guy wanting some form of release.
So I guess guys can't really just cuddle and get close without wanting release?
If I am with someone (non paying) and I am not in the mood for sex but want to get close and he eventually wants sex(erection poking me) I just suggest he take care of it himself. If a man gets an erection, a woman is not responsible to take care of it all the time. Same way if I see something I might want to buy, that does not mean a guy has to open his wallet every time.
Sorry a bit off track but somewhat related.
Well spoken😘💋😘
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No Way! puppies chew!!!
I just include that in regular sessions. One and done leaves a lot of time for pre and after cuddeling. Never just cuddling.
I'd expect a GFE session would include kissing, cuddling...
A wise man once said........"if you want companionship, find yourself a woman............if you want to fall in love, find yourself a loyal canine."
Sounds like a lot of cuddling there...........either way.
Would love to provide that
That was different - but fun for a few minutes.
Most ladies like to as well...and they will most often provide you with a rock your world experience. We can, too, sometimes...you just have to go for it!
Just don't dare try to ask for anything more!
Providers have stressful days.........and may need a little cuddling from time to time. Maybe some of us hobbyists should offer our services to providers in our area..........you know..........hobbyists providing cuddling for providers.
Bet many of us would be good at it.
since you are paying for time, not sex. But, my suggestion is for you to get a SO, who seem to like to cuddle and use the provider for what the SO won't do. Which in my case is most everything.
Most people seek me out because they lack the intimacy with their SO. What I do has enough boundaries so we both get what we need. Closeness comes in many forms and people miss being held or touched genuinely!