both participants have to want it to keep working and keep working at it. The difference is that civilian relationships have equity (glue) that's absent in The Hobby. There's little incentive/tolerance for honesty, admission of fault and corrective action. The lure (and rightful expectation) of strange is too great.
I love the idea of it, it turns me on, but in practice I don't find it so great. One of the wonderful things about a BJ is that it can be so passive, I really have time to just concentrate and enjoy the experience. Even the little things, such as the hair of a lady with longer hair touching my stomach or my thighs just makes it that much better. If I am dining at the same time, I cannot fully concentrate on either activity. As a result, the BJ experience is diminished and my DATY has no chance of being good because I cannot fully concentrate on it (not saying that it is good even with my full concentration, but I am sure it is worse with me thinking about what is going on at the other end.)
Now, it does not mean that I don't initiate 69, I go with the flow and sometimes it happens, I do like the rear view when the lady is the one on top. However, the act really does not live up to the potential I see in my mind's eye, I guess I am not a good multitasker. Lol!
I can't get my full technique nor can I orgasm in this position, so I will honor it for shits and giggles but nothing is really happening stimulation wise for me in that position. I prefer to have total control whilst giving head.
Now, it does not mean that I don't initiate 69, I go with the flow and sometimes it happens, I do like the rear view when the lady is the one on top. However, the act really does not live up to the potential I see in my mind's eye, I guess I am not a good multitasker. Lol!
I have NEVER cum while doing 69, and I seriously doubt I have ever even gotten a woman close to cumming in that position either.
Well, glad that I have company in you and LR.
Obviously we have our own..........position/act.........preferences..........just like we all have our own provider preferences.
Thank you for sharing YOURS!
I agree about the angles. To be honest, I do not want a providers nose any closer to my....whole than need be. I am not a fan of rimming for the same reason.
Rub your finger on the place between balls and ass all you want (and I do love that feeling) , but I feel bad of you go licking down there.
And yes, I do my very best to be clean, but you never know
I don't care how hot or clean a guy is, I do not want to be staring at his a hole lol.
An upside-down BJ (for lack of a better description) has never felt good to me. Ok, let me re-phrase that. Any time I'm in a woman's mouth feels good, but the pressure in that position hits the wrong places and can be uncomfortable. I'm glad not to be the only one who feels that way.
Yes, I suppose I am not much of a multi tasker either. I much prefer to take turns pleasing each other.
The whole taboo thing is fun but in reality it doesn't feel as good as a nice pussy. Unless it's LR's which I hear doesn't have enough room. LOL
Although, in a threesome, I'm happy to have a lady on my face and a lady on my dick at the same time!
I find it lacklaster when a lady takes my cock out of her mouth right before I cum to COF or COB. It gives me no thrill to "paint" her face, breasts, ass or belly. Especially if I end up being the one to finish myself off. Ugh.
My idea of a great time is either:
1) CIM! And my favorites are the gals who keep sucking after the initial blast!! That feels incredible. I don't necessarily care if they spit or swallow. Just please don't stop too soon after I blow! Or...
2) Cum (inside the wrapper) inside the vag. My favorites here are the ladies with strong kegels. I love to feel those sqeezes as I shoot -- and for a few minutes afterwards. The best providers know not to stop too soon. Just keep milking it, Baby!
In fact one thing I have noticed over the years is that civvies are not well versed.in the art of "just keep going!" They get to the orgasm and think that is the finish line. But the vast majority of my NSA lovers really know how to please a man.
The lyrics of "Everlong" by the Foo Fighters sum it up:
"The only thing I'll ever ask of you... You've got to promise not to stop when I say when."
At the end of the date, we squeezed one more round in with her in CG. I came, I remained hard and she kept riding me while she also stimulated herself until she came the way she likes it. I loved it, she said "thank you, that one was for me." The thing is that it the sensory pleasure was great and it was also great to be with someone who wanted to please herself.
that since I like my neck being bit.... and since I have so many nerve pleasures from my back and butt being licked and kissed... that I would try having my back bit.
Did not feel good and had all sorts of bite marks for a few days. Worth a try though and now I know.
Now, it does not mean that I don't initiate 69, I go with the flow and sometimes it happens, I do like the rear view when the lady is the one on top. However, the act really does not live up to the potential I see in my mind's eye, I guess I am not a good multitasker. Lol!
I've never really enjoyed 69 for the exact reasons you described. When I'm getting my cocked sucked everything she's doing is contributing to the experience, even the bobbing up and down of her head. And when I'm with a lady that wants daty, I enjoy every little nuance of doing so, her movements, her moans, all of her body.
It looks great in porn and I have had countless number of strippers do it to me in VIP, but usually it just gives me a rash. Maybe 1 out of 20 times it will make me cum, but if given the choice I'll pass on it.
I've only done this once. A provider told me it's her favorite position for Os so we gave it a go. I swear she came 7-8 times in 20 minutes. Would have kept going but the ol' clock was ticking down. I found it a relaxing position, and it gave me good access to caress her body and watch the expressions on her face as she rode wave after wave--that was, as they say in the commercial, priceless. 
Yeah I guess it depends on several factors, anatomy being a major key.
Don't say "Rash". "Friction burn" is more better
Lol in one instance the girl was so forceful and intense that if we both had had any fur down there, we would have started a small fire.
Now, it does not mean that I don't initiate 69, I go with the flow and sometimes it happens, I do like the rear view when the lady is the one on top. However, the act really does not live up to the potential I see in my mind's eye, I guess I am not a good multitasker. Lol!
Now, it does not mean that I don't initiate 69, I go with the flow and sometimes it happens, I do like the rear view when the lady is the one on top. However, the act really does not live up to the potential I see in my mind's eye, I guess I am not a good multitasker. Lol!
Because if we did, I'd sign on as Jerry Ford and say:
It's like trying to walk and chew gum at the same time.
(ba-doom)
being with 2 women, but for me the fantasy just far exceeds the reality.
As for a particular act or position? I like all of them at the right time and with the right person. I'm not a fan of Greek and don't seek it out... but the times it did happen were HOTT. Rimming is definitely another that can be totally hot or totally not.
I like 69. Try having a "who can make who cum first" contest for laughs, or bring a toy (or two) into the mix. Challenge each other for control/power, enjoy the ride and don't worry about reaching the end.
It's all good when it's good, and it's good when you make it so.
Ridiculous.
I have only had one doubles session and it was IRW when I was in graduate school. I was so overwhelmed that I could not even cum, I was actually glad when we finally said that we were done. These days, I would not be nervous, I was back then, but it is precisely my thoughts about how I handle 69 that give me a little pause. I will be doing in the next year or so in P4P but I have to line it up just right, it has to be with at least one lady I have been with who also enjoys it.
I love your idea of the contest in the 69 setting but I would lose every single time. You know all those threads about BBFS? Forget the danger of it, I laugh because I would never want it, I would be done in a NY minute and the orgasms are not that good for me done that way, go figure.... With a cover on, I can actually last like an average guy, and although the sensation is not the same, the ultimate feeling is much better.
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expectations. And they met them with spades. Ever since I've been explicit about what I want well beforehand with both participants. Details. Smooth sailing.... But it's not my favorite way to blow $2k-$3k in this world. Just sometimes, perhaps once a year I'll indulge. My MO? Gotta get that fresh 1-on-1 catch, right out of the net, before rigormortis (jadedness) has a chance to set in.
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I posted this a while back. I have been an amateur photographer most of my adult life. I always wanted to photograph nudes like in Playboy......and while I am good, I am not great by any standard.
With the advance in digital photography, I found more women willing to take their cloths off for my camera, and a couple of times led to sex after.
Well I am here to tell you, if done right, doing glamor nude photography is a ton of work. By the time I am done I am exhausted and screwing is not high on the list. I have done it, and it was ok, but nearly is great as shown in the porn movies.
Yeah, there is a special sweetness to repeating frequently over many months with one provider. I've done this several times. But always a point arrives when you get taken for granted. It's little things, but they pile up. And you think about all the thousands or tens of thousands you've spent and focus on the little shitty instances of slight disrespect or less than favored treatment. Or worse: You blow a huge wad on a multi-day trip and something inexcusably fucked up happens that ruins the vacation. Say....no sex one day due to...whatever.
So, if you've got a good thing, don't ruin it with overuse. Stretch it out and blend in heaping spoonfuls of strange. Cause once she takes you for granted, the big sweet cake is spoiled for good.
I'm jealous of the guys who can keep a good thing going over multiple years.
I have certainly encountered that, but I have some favorites that I've seen for up to 26 years now, and each time is just as great as the last.
Things can work if both parties strive for it.
both participants have to want it to keep working and keep working at it. The difference is that civilian relationships have equity (glue) that's absent in The Hobby. There's little incentive/tolerance for honesty, admission of fault and corrective action. The lure (and rightful expectation) of strange is too great.
Don't feel bad... I can't have LTR or Hobby Relationships for too long. You are right... when people have to realize you're human, it's over with. Humans have problems... depression, stomach aches, headaches, periods, the shits lol. Familiarity breeds contempt eventually. I always love the beginnings and the endings of things, but never that middle part where you get to watch little by little things go to hell.
Think you just defined marriage.
wkward. Not to mention I could slipped and got hurt. Not that I was thinking of that at the time.
Agreed. I have never found being in water terribly conducive to a great sexual encounter. It can be a fun way to get started but when the real action starts, I prefer to be out of the water.
I disagree on 69. Love the view most of all.
Most other "normal" things I can think of also lived up to the fantasy but I used to be into BDSM and in that realm I would have to say that 95 percent of things didn't live up to the fantasy. Which is why I rarely try it any more
the Hooker that I am giving money too. I do my research and read all the reviews but more often that not she does not live up to the hype.
69 without cumming is a meaningless experience, but as far meaningless experiences go it pretty damn good.
(To paraphrase W. Allen “Sex without love”
I like 69 as foreplay when it happens. The view from below has few parallels...
Greek? Not a big deal for me, but if she's into it, who am I to say no?
Doubles and beyond? Love it! Oh, yeah!
LTR's in the hobby? Actually prefer things that way. It's called connecting, and it greatly enhances the experience. In my experience, most providers don't mind this either. I still see the lady I originally saw when I first started hobbying 11 yrs. ago, and have ongoing intimate friendships with several others that also have lasted for years. Huge plus in my book.
Showering with the lady? Hot, especially as foreplay...or afterplay!
If there is anything that is negative, it is foot and legware. If you've ever had one of your toes stepped on by a lady in spike heals, you know exactly what what I am talking about. Additionally, I prefer the ladies be au naturale...they are beautiful without all of those baubles...
Fucking in the shower post got me thinking about this one.
One summer, back in the day, my late wife and I took a naked dip into our neighbors pool, they were on vacation.
Sensation during fucking under water not that great, she was a bit dry.....not sure if it was the water or nerves. She was not about to fuck on the pool deck,,,too exposed and concrete.
Never did it again.
DT doesn't impress me. It doesn't provide sensations any better than many other activities.
Once I gave up the idea of 69 as a way to get simultaneous orgasms, I enjoyed it more. I understand it can be so distracting to receive pleasure that it is difficult to give pleasure properly. But if one person starts the climb to an O is given permission to concentrate on the receiving until he/she is over the top, it can be very nice. My tongue and lips lose coordination when I'm nearing the edge but its still nice to have my face in a wet puss when my partner is swallowing me. And if I'm getting my partner off I don't mind if she takes me out of her mouth when she comes. I can hear her vocals better that way anyway.