do most providers expect DATY? many reviewers spend a lot of time ranting about how good they are at eating pussy. I wonder how many of the girls are just wishing it was over cause most guys aren't good at it. I like BBBJ with CIM but sometimes I feel like I have to lick her to orgasm because she did me. any thoughts ??
I like to follow a guy's lead. Some really want to give as good as they get and some are happy to just be catered to and pampered. Myself, I'm happy either way!
Posted By: fred-flintstone
do most providers expect DATY? many reviewers spend a lot of time ranting about how good they are at eating pussy. I wonder how many of the girls are just wishing it was over cause most guys aren't good at it. I like BBBJ with CIM but sometimes I feel like I have to lick her to orgasm because she did me. any thoughts ??
...but would just as soon pass on it. A lot of guys are too rough and simply not very good at it (at least in my experiences) and I'm sure that the vast majority of those magical O's are academy award winning performances.
For me, receiving DATY is a given, but unless the provider shoves her pussy in my face or asks me to do it, I usually won't.
...but would just as soon pass on it. A lot of guys are too rough and simply not very good at it (at least in my experiences) and I'm sure that the vast majority of those magical O's are academy award winning performances.
For me, receiving DATY is a given, but unless the provider shoves her pussy in my face or asks me to do it, I usually won't.
because while I am rarely asked outright for it, i have had more than a few ladies show a bit of disappointment on those days where i have "been selfish" and not given them the attention they deserve. I have one tica in particular who tells me in her broken English "you suck good" lol
Truth be told, I rarely get earthshattering O's by DATY, but I get a lot murmurs of contentment, and that's good enough for me.
I will further confess that the "guilt" seems to work both ways, When seeing a new lady, especially one who's reviews mention YMMV where it comes to BBBJ, I like to please her first as I've noticed the better job I do, the more she wants to reciprocate and I have gotten several BBBJ with an admonishment to "not tell anyone" what I got, after doing what at least appeared to be a good job "down there" lol
Personally, I enjoy performing DATY and foreplay with ladies I am with, and I hope they/you feel likewise. If not, then what's the point?
After reading your reviews, I am aware that you are a woman. Are many/most of us guys really that bad at DATY? After living for 54 years, and playing this game for over a decade, I think I've learned a thing or two in this. From what I have experienced, the majority of providers and civvies enjoy DATY, just as we enjoy oral from you ladies. Am I wrong?
I love performing DATY, because it revs me up as much as (hopefully) providing pleasure for my partner. Sometimes I will do it a bit with a provider, but it will usually be for my own gratification to get my motor running. Selfish, I know . Unlike a civvie partner, I just feel that most providers just aren't into it and want it over as quickly as possible. They are going thru the motions, so I don't invest a lot of time or effort into doing it, unless she asks or makes obvious motions towards it. Then its game on!
As far as men giving head- when I dated men most simply weren't very good at it and needed a lot of help and guidance to not actually have it be painful. Pointed stiff tongues with alot of force doesn't feel good on a delicate clit. Most men responded pretty well to some instructions, but overall their approach was just too rough and clumsy. I have never come across this from any woman that I have been with....at least so far. With providers, whose clientele is predominantly male, I can't help but think most just grit their teeth and try to get thru it as quickly as possible so as to move on to the next service.
....for being too shy, intimidated or just plain lazy to guide their lover to what makes them happy. Women are socialized to not question a guys sexual performance (hah!) and when it comes to DATY there is an additional stigma attached to it, largely due to hygiene paranoia. A lot of women sabotage their own pleasure with guilt or concern that their partner isn't happy doing it. Fuck that!
To me, DATY is a huge turn-on, as foreplay can be as pleasurable as intercourse oftentimes, and it revs my engine as well. Great sex is not a one way street..it takes two (or more, on occasion) to tango, and it is more than just orgasms. Although I don't know you beyond these posts, it is apparent that I am preaching to the choir on this with you...I think.
As for techniques, well, all I can say is that it has successful with the women I have known and loved, to the best of my knowledge. Beyond that, ??
You are the client and if you do not feel like it, then that is the way it should be. BTW, I think you are spot on, it maybe that the ladies are probably enduring it. I may not be any good at it, but I will not let that dissuade me, I certainly enjoy trying it.
but I let her guide me & have indeed had pretty spectacular results on occasion. However it's typically it's pretty clear if she's not interested & if that is the case I let her guide me into something else.
f I am with a girl that I've not been with before, and I am interested in doing so for whatever reason, I will sometimes simply ask her if it's okay to do so. Mostly because I don't want to cross any boundaries she may have; but I also think it certainly depends on how things are progressing and how well we are relating to each other.
Even with ladies I have seen many times before and know that she is open for it with me and definitely enjoys what I can do, it's not a given that she would enjoy it every single time.
Desires or needs always change, which is good. So just pay attention to her body language. It's not that hard to figure out. Especially, if you can both just "be yourselves"
I feel DATY is a part of GFE. So the majority of guys I see do do it.
Ever once in a while someone doesn't want to.
I look at it this way, I am here to please you. I do whatever a guy is comfortable with.
I do scratch my head when he doesn't want to kiss. That is my "thing" that I really enjoy. Of course I am here to please him and for some, they have their own things that turn them on.
My view, is if I want something and he isn't into it, I should find a boytoy or galtoy to please me how I want. He is paying and it is his call, in my book. Now if it was OTC, it is my way
Tryiing to generalize human behaviors as ubiquitous is not only dumb but also very stupid. If everyone behaved uniformly, all of us will be robots and no fun.
I said my experiences and I said from what I have encountered. I also said some are not like that. I EVEN went further than I think ANY lady has and said He is paying, so he should get what he wants. It is not about me.
WTF Do you want more from a lady?
Are you whining because I said, as a GFE lady, that I feel uncomfortable when they won't kiss? That's treading towards PSE if they don't want that and DATY etc. I am made for intimate.
If I just wanted to fuck, I'd call London up Of course, at least I'd get a few O's out of her food she'd cook for me. Speaking of, I hope she cooks when traveling Pretty please.
IMHO= In My Humble Opinion.
PS I'd rather you shit in my corn flakes then piss... at least I'd have something nutty to chew on!!!
Posted By: anonymousfun
Tryiing to generalize human behaviors as ubiquitous is not only dumb but also very stupid. If everyone behaved uniformly, all of us will be robots and no fun.
I am a VIP member of the shit-head club. Thought that was apparent.
Although I didn't say anything shitty to you. I clarified what I had said thinking you were speaking about me directly, as you posted your response to me.
If anything, most of my post was meant at humor. I know it gets confusing when I bounce back and forth between funny/nice and sarcastic/shit head. I am quite puzzled that you didn't see the humor in my post. Huh. Did I get at least a chuckle?
I am also the president of the Manwhore Lovers Association. We are based in Costa Rica. I can get you a special fan club rate if you are ever interested.
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Posted By: anonymousfun
It is general statement and not targeted anybody specific.
I see that you joined GaG Shite Head Club. You will right in with rest of the shit heads
Here's my thing with it: The act of kissing itself is fine with me, even nice, but there's something about inhaling someone's already exhaled breath I find unpleasant...smell, taste, or whatever.
Even when there's not necessarily bad breath involved it's just a "yuck" for me...go figure.
If she is blowing you up like a helium balloon during kissing, that is quite gross. Although if she does it well, you'd have chipmunk cheeks... and I love chipmunks
Posted By: ontheprowl14
Here's my thing with it: The act of kissing itself is fine with me, even nice, but there's something about inhaling someone's already exhaled breath I find unpleasant...smell, taste, or whatever.
Even when there's not necessarily bad breath involved it's just a "yuck" for me...go figure.
Trust me on this - many guys are not good at it (and for some reason, the ones who are the worst at it tend to be the most enthusiastic about it). And there seems to be a huge communication breakdown when it comes to body language. Just a friendly PSA, guys: if we're backing away from your face, that means you're being too rough (pulling our clitoral hoods back and grinding stubble onto our exposed clitorises does not feel good). It does NOT mean that we want you to hold onto our thighs for dear life and forcibly stop us from moving.
But I digress. No it's not necessary to "return the favor." I'd much prefer a guy who's just in it for a good time over one who's fulfilling a checklist/doing shit because he feels like he has to compete with other dudes/flexing his sexual prowess.
A strict "no stubble grinding" policy is apparently in order, but I've not seen an official symbol for that yet (circled sihouette art with a bar through it) I'm anxiously waiting for an official "TT" term for this disgression... I recall you (and others) mentioning this as a concern in the past. Even as a guy, it makes me cringe to think about it!
Posted By: Tobi Telford
Trust me on this - many guys are not good at it (and for some reason, the ones who are the worst at it tend to be the most enthusiastic about it). And there seems to be a huge communication breakdown when it comes to body language. Just a friendly PSA, guys: if we're backing away from your face, that means you're being too rough (pulling our clitoral hoods back and grinding stubble onto our exposed clitorises does not feel good). It does NOT mean that we want you to hold onto our thighs for dear life and forcibly stop us from moving.
But I digress. No it's not necessary to "return the favor." I'd much prefer a guy who's just in it for a good time over one who's fulfilling a checklist/doing shit because he feels like he has to compete with other dudes/flexing his sexual prowess.
Dear Ms. Telford: If you had to describe the perfect way to perform cunnilingus for you, what would it be? Also what are some of the sensations that you look for while the Gentleman is performing DATY? Also do you look for and seek hedonistic and intense hobbyist who enjoy sex and perform above and beyond your wildest expectations? Tobi, I am just wondering about the pleasure that you would derive from this act.
OTH if you're the only one paying then you can NOT do something you don't want to.
Unless I'm wrong here I'd say most guys do it for 1) themselves first and foremost because it is fun then and only then 2) to please/pleasure the providers
While I never feel "obligated" to DATY, I like to. I love making women orgasm. Its a mind fuck for me that enhances my own enjoyment. Now whether they are acting or not, hell I don't know. Some are, but some aren't. The best actresses or simply put: the ones who seem to enjoy themselves the most, make my experience that much better. I am always open to suggestion when down there and follow instruction well. Heck, I don't complain when its my turn to be pleasured, so if you don't want it anymore, just tell me so and do me instead. I won't be offended. I'd rather you had fun with me than be miserable.
I really get off in having my face drenched, the woman thrusting her body into my tongue, squeezing the life out of me with her thighs, and screaming expletives all at the same time. Even if it is an act.
I am a repeat client of Provider 1. One day I try to book her, and she can't make it. Intros me to Provider 2. Who I also now repeat with. The first session involves what I describe above. At the end of the session, she tells me that she has a requirement - if the client is not good at DATY, she won't see them. P1 knows that about her, so she took the appointment.
A month or so later, P1 and I meet again, and she tells me that she knew P2 and I would be a great match due to my "style" down there, and tells me the same thing about P2 only seeing guys who DATY. P2 is UTR. P1 and P2 are more than just friends it turns out, which sounds hotter than I can possibly imagine. Someday I will see them together.
In wrap up conversation after that first session, P2 tells me her real name, and really wants to know "where I learned how to do that". Truth is, she is communicative with her movements. I have had maybe 10% of my appointments push me away, so it is not something I am good at all the time.
I hear all the generous comments from the providers in this thread, that it is all about us. But in the case of P2, I would not even be seeing her otherwise. The sex just keeps better and better with her, and the I believe that the treatment I get in return is better than I would otherwise, if I was not taking care of her core prerequisite. And that would be a big loss for me. Yum.
I'm an older guy (61) and I would doubt any young attractive providers would get off from me doing DATY with them. I'm positive that any noises made by any so far have just been acting. Maybe they could actually get off from a younger man doing it. I don't know.
Anyway, if I'm not doing it right and not getting direction or if they're just not going to get off with me, I figure I might as well do something else.
Have her ride your face, and let her go at the pace and pressure that she likes. Get the right Cowgirl, and she'll grab you by the hair and skull fuck you good, asking for your tongue so she can come on it. Yeah! DATY down under.
Have her ride your face, and let her go at the pace and pressure that she likes. Get the right Cowgirl, and she'll grab you by the hair and skull fuck you good, asking for your tongue so she can come on it. Yeah! DATY down under.
Cannot imagine giving this up, and +infinity to this variant. Some of the things I have heard from this position, would make a sailor blush. Ride on. Ride on.
... as long as you remain younger than him, you're not old lol. And my guess is the Boss won't be getting a lot of 10th Avenue Freeze Out if he wanted to do a little DATY on some lovely lady.
As a consumer . You my friend are the consumer the customer.
This is not a civvie date.
Granted we have quirks rules ect.
I am being paid alot of money to proivde a fantasy, Whatever i can do to make this encounter as enjoyable for you with in my guidelines which you can know my reading my reviews and my service menu.
Some clients are different, Its not my place to be expecting anything of you, Your my customer and i am here to cater to you.
Was waiting for other gals to say it. Finally someone else did. It is true. We get paid to do what pleases you. If we wanted different, then we can go find it or advertise that you must give us DATY as part of the deal.
Angel is spot on. Just common sense.
Posted By: Joe Christmas
... then yours is the only one that makes sense too lol!!!!!
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. Unlike a civvie partner, I just feel that most providers just aren't into it and want it over as quickly as possible. They are going thru the motions, so I don't invest a lot of time or effort into doing it, unless she asks or makes obvious motions towards it. Then its game on! 
I'm anxiously waiting for an official "TT" term for this disgression... I recall you (and others) mentioning this as a concern in the past. Even as a guy, it makes me cringe to think about it! 